Our species is believed to be between 200,000 and 300,000 years old and yet there’s no evidence of symbolic behavior until about 88,000 years (engraved ocher from Blombos cave, South Africa) and there’s no evidence of true art until about 40,000 years ago in Europe.
What took so long?
Was this just a slow accumulation of cultural knowledge, or as Stanford professor Richard Klein has argued, was the human brain not genetically capable of higher level creativity until around the time we left Africa?
One incredibly evil way scientists could answer the question would be to raise a bunch of modern humans from birth with no language, art, technology, clothing or modern advances of any kind. If these humans start talking and creating symbols within a few generations, we’d know Klein was right and that there was a genetic mutation that suddenly allowed our species to acquire behavioral modernity quite rapidly. On the other hand, if these humans take over 100,000 years to create language and art, then it will prove we’re no genetically smarter than the earliest members of our species, we’ve just had more time to create culture.
But if we are genetically smarter, how did we become that way?
Increasing brain size can’t fully explain it. While it’s true brains grew as people entered freezing Europe and created the first art, those who stayed in the tropics would also display impressive cave art, independent of European influence.
So perhaps the explanation lies not in brain size, but in neurotransmitters. In a recent issue of Scientific American, scholar Liane Gabora argues that humans lacked the neurotransmitters to fully exploit our huge brains until around 100,000 years ago at which time we evolved an ability to switch easily from analytical to associative forms of thinking
Pumpkin Person 
“One incredibly evil way scientists could answer the question would be to raise a bunch of modern humans from birth with no language, art, technology, clothing or modern advances of any kind. ”
And congrats, you just created a colony of feral children. All that stuff wasn’t simply abrupt, that develop from preceding placeholders in past hominid species likely taught through generations.
Furthermore, as I presume you mean placing these people in the wild, ha, not with our modern resistance to raw nature. You’re going to some need to account for that along with a substitute for our level of language to simulate pre-behaviorally modern man.
“If these humans start talking and creating symbols within a few generations, we’d know Klein was right and that there was a genetic mutation that suddenly allowed our species to acquire behavioral modernity quite rapidly. On the other hand, if these humans take over 100,000 years to create language and art, then it will prove we’re no genetically smarter than the earliest members of our species, we’ve just had more time to create culture.”
Confounds aside by using modern humans in the first place, this is needlessly complicated.
I would suggest possible techniques that would analyze proportions early sapiens craniums like how they did with neanderthals to see what areas were more “spacious” and see if there is an association to stages of cultural development to see was sort of thinking was involved.
Possibly this study’ techniques could be useful in determining what kind of thinking was involved in each culture.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170508184905.htm
And congrats, you just created a colony of feral children. All that stuff wasn’t simply abrupt, that develop from preceding placeholders in past hominid species likely taught through generations.
Right but if the descendants of feral children living in the wild spontaneously created language and art within only several generations, it would strongly imply that behaviourally modern humans have genetically very different brains than merely anatomically modern humans since the latter took over 100,000 years to produce art
“Right but if the descendants of feral children living in the wild spontaneously created language and art within only several generations, it would strongly imply that behaviourally modern humans have genetically very different brains than merely anatomically modern humans since the latter took over 100,000 years to produce art.”
You are not seeing my point, my point is that human culture is too complex of a phenomenon to be simply created in a “few generations” WITHOUT the material that made us create it in the first place. So this experiment fails to replicate the same conditions.
Without some form of basic communication, their brains will be under develop and we would learn squat.
And to answer your question on how different they were, not much.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110214201850.htm
my point is that human culture is too complex of a phenomenon to be simply created in a “few generations” WITHOUT the material that made us create it in the first place. So this experiment fails to replicate the same conditions.
I understand; you’re saying the experimental conditions as i outlined them are even more difficult than the real conditions faced by our ancestors.
Thus if the experimental group still acquires culture much faster than our ancestors, it proves they have a genetic advantage
And there’s some evidence that moderns can create cultures quite rapidly (i.e. deaf kids inventing their own language) though this is admittedly a very imperfect analogy
Without some form of basic communication, their brains will be under develop and we would learn squat.
1) define basic communication
2) has this ever been proven? A lot of feral kids are permanently retarded but that doesn’t prove environment made them that way. They may have been abandoned because they were retarded or their parents were
“I understand; you’re saying the experimental conditions as i outlined them are even more difficult than the real conditions faced by our ancestors.
Thus if the experimental group still acquires culture much faster than our ancestors, it proves they have a genetic advantage.”
No, what I’m saying is you will have a group of mentally stunted individuals without the right conditions to prove anything.
“And there’s some evidence that moderns can create cultures quite rapidly (i.e. deaf kids inventing their own language) though this is admittedly a very imperfect analogy.”
Likely because those deaf kids weren’t “one their own” and were elements of language as I suggested, proving my point if anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaraguan_Sign_Language#History
“1) define basic communication”
Sign language for instance.
“2) has this ever been proven? A lot of feral kids are permanently retarded but that doesn’t prove environment made them that way. They may have been abandoned because they were retarded or their parents were.”
That has been the case for some, but even for neglected ones that weren’t abandoned, the environmental effects for it’s first two years of life impeded brain development as that’s a essential period of brain cell growth
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/children/9637682/Whats-the-difference-between-these-two-brains.html
“Suffice it to say that there is now a very substantial body of evidence that shows that the way a baby is treated in the first two years determines whether or not the resulting adult has a fully functioning brain. The damage caused by neglect and other forms of abuse comes by degrees: the more severe the neglect, the greater the damage. Eighty per cent of brain cells that a person will ever have are manufactured during the first two years after birth. If the process of building brain cells and connections between them goes wrong, the deficits are permanent.”
Genes make the plan as the article acknowledge, but they aren’t resilient again all.
against all.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/01/childhood-neglect-erodes-brain
To be specific, not necessarily language deprivation but mainly sensory.
But this goes into another Issue with this procedure, are you going to make the sample all fairly young children (like 3-5 years old) to fend for themselves?
The social interaction in the extreme condition, to my knowledge, has rarely been observed in HBD studies that show negligible effect on development.
Jayman for instance often responds to people how theoretical scenarios of being “raised on an island alone” is expected to yield different results but doesn’t refute HBD’s contentions.
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/345/6198/752
However this is shown, as the previous article did, to apply for the first two years. In that case, a sample of modern 3 to five year olds would likely have an advantage which would confound the result further in developing “culture”.
So for this experiment to work, a simulation of hominid parenting and culture prior to early modern styles must be applied.
So for this experiment to work, a simulation of hominid parenting and culture prior to early modern styles must be applied
Exactly, so it could either have the children raised by apes or by actors playing humans from 250,000 years ago. And then once the first generation starts reproducing, the apes/actors would be removed.
In support of John Shea’s conclusion versus Gabora’s, the the lack of updated archaeology mainly weakens the notion of a distinction between AMH and BMH as she has made.
Click to access scientific_american_the_story_of_us.pdf
This stems mainly from her comment here that she derives from Leakey on human culture at 250k.
Click to access 1106.3386.pdf
Florisbad people have been shown to have traits of behaviorally modern humans, such as use of pigment, possibly similay to that of the Twin Rivers area of excavation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florisbad_Skull
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12226275_The_Revolution_That_Wasn't_A_New_Interpretation_of_the_Origin_of_Modern_Human_Behavior
https://books.google.com/books?id=fkHwHdjDIO0C&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=MSA+Twin+rivers+Zambia+pigment+use&source=bl&ots=f7xlrWvvmz&sig=La9YwZQ_Fklg5r0iMRfUpWyNXEk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjr77CU89DUAhUj0IMKHQTmCLkQ6AEIMDAC#v=onepage&q=MSA%20Twin%20rivers%20Zambia%20pigment%20use&f=false
This is consistent with the alternative belief of “Behavioral Variability”.
In my opinion, as a black man, the human race got smarter after we ended slavery. Now, as we all know slavery didn’t really end until 1989. At that point however, we still had issues of instutional racism and the legacy of colonialism infesting the minds of youths all around Harlem. In my opinion, if we can find a way to abolish slavery that would make the world even smarter.
The best way to become smarter is to read the New York Times and Washington Post and then debate with other really smart people at canape events about how we need to adopt Haitians to prove we’re not racist and want to defend israel and spend money ‘fixing’ Africa and figure out why we want to fix Africa and not East Timor or Tajikistan. Can’t figure it out. Really can’t figure it out. Who is telling me my morality? Who? Whom?
Can’t figure it out. Nope. Nope. Complete blackout. No my MORALITY ISNT IRRATIONAL. SHUTUP. ITS NOT BRAINWASHING. No. No.
I say all this as a black man.
The best way to become smarter is to adopt a pokemon. I did that. I put in an application for Charizard but I ended up with an even better magical pokemon called Benji from Port Au Prince. Not only does he mindlessly ad lib in jewish commericals but he’s a reflexive hack who lies to his teeth and makes up stuff to rpotect his boys who abandoned him back home.
And I say to all of you standing here today – do not ask what your country can do for you, ask yourself what you can do for your country.
JFK – last great president before the fascist CIA coup and the 1965 Open Borders Act.
Yesterday I woke up in a complete sweat. I realised I left the tap on in the bathroom and that in the 1860s, leaving the water running was a phrase confederates used in millitary parlance to describe a vanguard offensive.
The fact that I could deign to leave the bloody tap running is possibly the lowest moment of my entire adult life. To be associated with the evil spectre of Confederacy and the Galactic Empire is in a word – decompressing.
I immediately said 45 hail marys and sacrificed a small barn mouse to Moloch to prove I wasn’t a ray charles, sorry wasn’t a racist.
May Moloch protect our Masters in Israel
“By way of deception, thou shalt make war” – Mossad official motto.
Nothing to do with 9-11. They are an honest bunch of people who are great for white people and the world at large. Really swell.
Do you know how many prophets of Israel condemned Isreal for worshiping Molock and baal? My mom took me to church all the time. You don’t understand how important religion is too many Christians and Jews.
I’m engaged to a jewish fiance. I don’t think shes doing it to prove to the media shes not racist though.
Very beautiful woman.
When pumpkin said the legacy of colonialism caused low black IQ scores I genuinely thought a piano had fallen on his head.
I never said that, you misunderstood
I’ve always believed the black-white IQ gap is substantially genetic
And why do you turn every article into an alt-right propaganda forum? I don’t mind people of all political views advancing them when they’re relevant but you need to try harder to stay on topic
If you spent half as much energy on your employment as you do propagandizing on the Internet you’d be able to truly help your movement by giving money to david duke
Pumpkin – do you read Unz? There is an article on the q index, or what we call curiosity measure. Surprisingly, Spain has a high curiosity index. Perhaps they were the 1st to conquer the New World.
I’m willing to bet there are more Spaniards in China, than there are White Americans.
East Asians score high on IQ test but very low on curiosity measures or the q measure. IQ is not everything.
http://www.unz.com/jthompson/asians-bright-but-not-curious/
This also goes back my observation as to why Jews dominate the Ivy Leagues, simply out of the general perception that Jews have a high verbal ability and crowd the university departments with their intellectual prowess. The opposite holds true for high IQ East Asians.
Jews are very good students and at the same time good scholars. Conversely, Northeast Asians are exceptional students, but they make up only 8–9% of university professors in 2011 (National Center for Educational Statistics) and less than 5% of Nobel laureates.
Your commenters like Santo and AKarlin are found in the comment section.
Yes i think curiosity is one of the most underrated variables in intellectual achievement
Many people deny HBD on the grounds that East Asians have supposedly not achieved enough to be truly smarter than whites,but they forget that whites might be more motivated to ask the big questions
ts almost synonymous with verbal IQ. But the countries could also be subject to government media control etc.
I think Ivy League admissions discriminate East Asians because of this general perception that they are smart, but not interesting. Most important, not very dynamic with their successes. You admire Oprah and her show, but there are a lot 2nd place winners who are like Oprah and they happened to be Jews. There is a reason as to why Ashkenazi Jews dominate the intellectual front, similar to blacks dominating sports. The only reason I think Whites in America often play 2nd fiddle to Jews in this arena, simply, White Americans were the dregs of
Verbal IQ in your world – verbal IQ is the reason!
Here is the research paper that outlines the study regarding q index:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282411443_Why_do_Northeast_Asians_win_so_few_Nobel_Prizes_1
Rushton made a remark that East Asians were intelligent, but were very cautious in temperament (what we call high conscientious). I believed he also made a remark that this could all change in the near future. These researchers says it’s imprinted in their genes so
Rushton thought it was genetic
The allele/gene responsible for psychopathic behavior is about 20% among the various Caucasoids from Europeans to Middle Easterners. It doesn’t mention South Asians. They seem to be less studied. All of the East Asians have 0% with the exception of the Japanese at 1%.
Pumpkin — So do you think anyone who adheres to HBD is an outlier of whatever racial group they belong to?
This is my Visual DNA Test Results
https://www.visualdna.com/
Openness 10%
Conscientiousness 79%
Extraversion 21%
Agreeableness 38%
Neurotisism 46%
I know that extroversion is related to dopamine levels.
Does anyone know what neurological feature control the other traits of personality?
yes. this is obvious to anyone who’s known ne asians. even though ne asians in the US are a non-random selection from ne asians.
ne asians are “worker ants”.
but it’s also true that ne asians’ scores on personality tests in the US are very unlike their scores in ne asia.
personality tests are retarded, but they’re super retarded when used across cultures.
ne asians in ne asia score very low on conscientiousness and very high on neuroticism.
i expect they score the opposite in the US.
” I think Ivy League admissions discriminate East Asians because of this general perception that they are smart, but not interesting ”
Another reason is that they don’t believe the test scores. “Cheater” is another way of saying asian.
but you’re right about the boring thing.
There is a feeling that many kids who are more likely to donate to their alma mater are not going to want to go to a college that is completely overrun by asians
I know a preppy guy who went to UC San diego and he would go on and on about how much he hated the asian conquered UC SD.
publicly funded schools like UCSD can get away with it but private colleges like Harvard will never ever let the asian % get in the 20s let alone the nearly 50s that you see at some colleges.
Its not discrimination. Its a business decision.
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Certain commenters on this thread have the personality of computer programmers.
No joke. I mean Jeeeeezzz thats so dull.
Random black guy has got it all figured out! Wow. He must be a board member!
Dammit, didn’t go to work today. I was bored last night so I decided to try out a trick I heard about in middle school: drinking a bottle of Robitussin. I know it sounds crazy but I didn’t have any alcohol so I was like, why not?
Within two hours I started hallucinating. I saw random faces and roaches going across my wall. That was the scariest shit in my life! I’m never doing that again. I don’t know how I was able to go asleep. Called my Dad and forgot I had called him and he just talked into my phone for 2 minutes before hanging up.
So what’s my IQ???
Robo-tripping is retarded. Same with triple Cs.
I had tried this before many years ago but with not nearly the same effect. Totally weird!
I also kept making these random associations in my brain while I was out it. Like seeing a chair and thinking it was a car that I could drive off in. I’m guessing this is how Anime Kitty feels on a regular basis?
*out of it
didn’t think once about Denmark though…
You’re lit!
PP, what are you thought on the polycentric hypothesis ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiregional_origin_of_modern_humans
Genetic evidence refutes it. The theory is that erectus that populated Asia and Africa are responsible for modest races, something like that. It’s been debunked though. Altright retards think that the new study that was published last month shows that Man originated in Europe. That’s laughable.
“It’s been debunked though. Altright retards think that the new study that was published last month shows that Man originated in Europe. That’s laughable.”
Ironic how the model, which uses gene flow to explain how each population became modern, would clash with the Alt Right views on race mixing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiregional_origin_of_modern_humans#/media/File:Multiregionaltheory.svg
What the alt right want is closer to Coon’s model
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiregional_origin_of_modern_humans#Overview
It was popular until the 1980s when it was replaced by the out of Africa total replacement model which has been slightly revised to include tiny amounts of subhuman admixture
Look essay. Chico don like these style of questions. Nawm sayin bro?. So enshallah, why don’t we all ask more questions about whether the Oscars were spread fairly among the lighter and darker skinned blacks? No manches!
now let’s make the correlation between the two uniform variables im-perfect.
what’s the result of Y = IF(X<=.5, 0.5*(1+RAND()), 0.5*RAND())?
the scatter plot of the normalized random variables fills up quadrants II and IV.
that is it is NOT bivariate normal even though each variable is normal by construction.
suppose two uniform distributions are perfectly correlated in the following way:
Y = 2*|X-.5|.
now normalize the two distributions by percentile matching. is their scatter plot a line? no. the scatter plot of X and Y is shaped like a “v”.
But normalizing means assigning variables of equal rank, identical Z scores. So if everyone’s rank on X is identical to their rank in Y (perfect correlation), everyone’s Z score for X would be the same as their Z score for Y, and thus the scatter plot would be a perfectly straight line.
yeah. so what?
again this response is totally irrelevant.
the point is percentile matching two variables in order to normalize them doesn’t give you a bivariate normal distribution and therefore the pearson correlation coefficient doesn’t apply. you might calculate it, but what it meant wouldn’t be clear. it might mean nothing.
the point is percentile matching two variables in order to normalize them doesn’t give you a bivariate normal distribution and therefore the pearson correlation coefficient doesn’t apply.
You could claim the same about almost any 2 variables being correlated regardless of whether they’ve been normalized or not. A bivariate normal distribution is just assumed. Is the assumption wrong in some cases? Of course.
the ranks won’t match perfectly and the scatter about the conditional expectation will NOT be normal with stdev – sqrt(1 – rho^2).
AND the conditional expectation will NOT be rho*x. rho is simply not a natural parameter of the distribution.
in the above example the pearson correlation is -.63.
but this is very misleading.
I was listening to Katie Holmes and Jaime Foxx have sex the other day on my Ipod Nano (14.99 – for real) and I was thinking – why cant they go public. Why would Tom Cruise care anymore?
As a black man Katie Holmes is the Alpha and Omega of great womanhood and a classy example to all women.
Inshallah!
So this, ‘Philosopher’ homeboy sounds like he knows his shit and people should listen to him and join the border patrol if they know whats good for them.
I appreciate a white man keepin it real sometimes, yeah.
“raise a bunch of modern humans from birth with no language, art, technology, clothing or modern advances of any kind. ”
Culture doesn’t come out of nowhere, it progressively gets more complex. I don’t think that would prove anything.
Also do you have a source for the study Liane gabora did?
Her theory was mentioned in an article called “The Origins of Creativity” from the March 2017 issue of Scientific American. You can also peruse her list of publications.
Basically, the internal feedback loops in the brain allow the signals to be sent from regions of the over active cortex to other regions of the cortex. The cortex must rewire itself so energy signals are lowered. Because the energy is high the wires must form complex pathways so all the energy can be directed. The new complex pathways can direct energy in more ways than it did before. The newly interwoven pattern of wires is a plethora of association that can now be activated. The frontal lobes direct where energy will be sent so that complexity can increase in such a way that the creative person can evaluate what it is they want to create.
Summary and Conclusions
Click to access 1610.02484.pdf
(1) The creative process fuels the evolution of culture amongst communal exchanging minds that are
self-organizing, self-maintaining, and self-reproducing.
(2) Minds, like other self-organizing systems, modify their contents and adapt to their environments
to minimize entropy. Creativity begins with detection of high psychological entropy material,
which provokes uncertainty and is arousal-inducing.
(3) Creativity involves recursively considering this material from new contexts (i.e., honing it) until
it is sufficiently restructured that arousal dissipates.
(4) A creative work may similarly induce restructuring in others, and thereby contribute to the
cultural evolution of more nuanced worldviews.
Ok kitty since you seem to know what you’re talking about. Did this theory have actual physical evidence of neurological change?
Is there actual physical evidence of neurological change?
Is there actual physical evidence of neurological change?
I didn’t notice any hard evidence mentioned in the Scientific American article (you can probably find back copies at your local library). Probably just speculation combined with some computer modeling.
But it’s a fascinating question. On the one hand you have to think there must have been a neurological change for such a massive change in behavior to have occurred. On the other hand, there’s no physical evidence in the crania, and you can’t underestimate the power of culture. For example scientists 50,000 years in the future (if we’re still around) might look at all the technological breakthroughs of the late 20th century (moon landing, internet, genetic engineering) as evidence of a neurological change when in reality it’s just culture.
Maybe one day people won’t be too sacred to try your experiment. Chimps have primitive culture, would the children be allowed to have at least simple levels innovation like them at the beginning?
Well one way to conduct the experiment would be to have the infants raised from birth by apes and see how many generations it took them to make the leap to modern human behavior (i.e. complex language, art, projectile weapons).
Well a more accurate experiment would be to clone Homo sapiens from around 300,000 years go and use them instead of chimps to raise the modern children.
Unfortunately, using chimps would require much more precise math to figure out the perfect rate at which the culture should be accumulating if it is indeed purely learned. Simply because there is no doubt in anyone’s mind that chimps are biologically less intelligent than us.
On another note, one experiment I’ve always wanted to try was to put chimps in europe. or at least a much colder environment.
If we could clone humans from 300,000 years ago, there’d be no need for the experiment because we could just intelligence test the clone to see if it had the brain power of behaviorally modern humans.
Apes would all die if placed in a European winter, or they would evolve into a new species of ape. What makes humans unique is not our ability to adapt to many environments, but rather our ability to adapt to many environments without becoming a new species.
“we could just intelligence test the clone to see if it had the brain power of behaviorally modern humans.”
But to test it wouldn’t you have to raise it in our society? Wouldn’t it have an IQ lower than bushman? Aren’t bushman older than the african cave art?
“A DNA study of fully sequenced genomes, published in September 2016, showed that the ancestors of today’s San hunter-gatherers began to diverge from other human populations in Africa about 200,000 years ago and were fully isolated by 100,000 years ago, well before the first archaeological evidence of modern behavior in humans.”
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v538/n7624/full/nature18964.html
“Apes would all die if placed in a European winter, or they would evolve into a new species of ape.”
Well I wouldn’t just put them there abruptly You’d have to slowly force them to migrate.
But to test it wouldn’t you have to raise it in our society?
Yes
Aren’t bushman older than the african cave art?
Sounds like they split off before behavioral modernity and yet they still achieved it independently, suggesting the genetic potential was already there by 100,000 years ago, but it didn’t manifest itself until much later.
To PP,
it’s also worth noting that a decent “chunk” of behavioral modernity likely goes back a little further than 100k as well based on some studies of mine, both tool wise and art (mainly body art could’ve been a form of expression before cave art).
Yes phil78, i think part of the reason people like Klein & Spencer Wells thought behavioral modernity was such an abrupt change, caused by a brain mutation, was that until recently there were huge gaps in the Stone Age record, but now that some of those gaps have been filled in, it seems the emergence of behavioral modernity was completely continuous
I wonder if Klein & Wells have revised their opinions
“Yes”
But wouldn’t that inflate it?
“suggesting the genetic potential was already there by 100,000 years ago, but it didn’t manifest itself until much later.”
Or maybe we just haven’t found it yet or maybe it 20,000 years to accumulate.
Culture doesn’t come out of nowhere, it progressively gets more complex.
Ideally the infants would be raised with only the level of culture than humans had when our species first appeared 200,000 or 300,000 years ago. The problem is we know so little about the culture of that time, other than the type of stone tools that were made, so I’d err on the conservative side and raise them with only ape culture, and if they still achieved behavioral modernity within only several generations, we’d know their brains are genetically very different from the earliest members of our species, who took well over 100,000 years to achieve it.
Asians do bad creatively because:
1. Low psychosis type
2. Low verbal intelligence
3. Low soical intelligence
4. Low testosterone for risk taking
5. Herding
They are the logical endpoi t of artificial selection by master.
They have had no real religion, literature or culture of critique likes js says because they lack verbal. But i suspect you also need verbal for theoretical type math. Because contra the consensus its clear verbal is more propositional logic than language aquisition per se.
But its notable east asians have the hardest time speaki g english properly too.
slant languages may be more unlike indo-european languages than are afro-asiatic languages. idk.
but i doubt that explains why koreans and japs have such a hard time.
They have had no real religion, literature or culture of critique likes js says
whereas s asians do. this is quite conspicuous. ne asians simply aren’t cut out to be thinkers. taoiasm and confucianism are neither religions nor philosophies. they’re adolescent jive. [redacted by PP, June 22, 2017]
but there is something called “chinese folk religion” and there’s shinto. both involve ancestor worship.
buddhism is, of course, a branch of hinduism.
They have had no real religion, literature or culture of critique likes js says
Perhaps East Asians are less accomplished in religion and literature than Caucasoids for the same reason Caucasoids are less accomplished in rhythm music than blacks. As we marched up the evolutionary tree, humans were no longer psychotic and rebellious enough to be artistically creative. Every creative writer or artist I have ever known has been a little nuts. Rushton noted that in the U.S., Asians have the lowest rates of mental hospitalization and blacks have the highest, though this could just be a local trend, confounded by cultural factors.
Perhaps Jews dominate because they have the unique combination of advanced traits (high IQ) and primitive traits (dark Caucasoid ancestry).
the jews had a religion. everything written by a jew up to the haskalah was on a religious subject. spinoza included.
the midrash ridicule the “philosophers”.
the jews also showed no sign of being able to think until 1800 at the earliest.
there are even some uni departments of “eastern philosophy”. this is a category mistake. philosophy is greek. then it’s scholastic. then it’s german. it’s all european. reminds me. the schoolmen simply don’t exist for modern philosophy departments. for them it’s just the greeks, the germans, some brits, and anal-ysis.
likely this is because they assume the schoolmen were only theologians and never genuine philosophers.
Philo is spot on — biology determines culture and human interactions.
The only interesting book that I’ve seen coming from the Asian pacific region was a title written by a Japanese scholar who translated a medical book from Dutch into Japanese where he critiques the flaws of Chinese medicine and the superiority of the Western medicinal practices. And I saw this book in a fair of old books, and this title was being dealt by a White person and not an East Asianese.
And the Chinese are by far the most depressing of the East Asian groups. Their culture is almost non-sequitur and Mao’s communism nearly destroyed almost anything that defines them as a people.
An interesting group of people to study would be the Turks from Anatolia, whose members can be genetically related any of the following groups or all of them: Europeans, Ashkenazim, Arabs and East Asians, and even a speck of black. Some Turks look like Pardo Brazilians, with a drop of black blood. I thinks Turks are slightly more intelligent and showing less empathy than Greeks, their neighbors, simply because of the East Asian DNA.
Another trait that defines people from the warm climes and in this case the Mediterranean is hospitality. Greeks appear more hospital and welcoming than Turks. Spaniards show more than Turks, but less than the Greeks. Gulf Arabs, a more primitive form of warmness like what you think of black folks.
Ashkenazim Jews, no need to explain…you guys know what’s the deal with them. Similar to Turks, but out of sync completely.
I don’t know much about the Italians.
Going back to the curious G index, East Asians have low levels of curiosity, coming from the fact they are highly conscientious and highly agreeable, giving the image that East Asians make great strivers of the status quo with very little originality. In America, East Asians are always striving to be like White people, their less intelligent members often try to mimic black people with ebonics in the form of hip hop music and styles.
So yes, the research findings are valid.
High conscientiousness does not make you low in curiosity.
Low Openness makes you less curious.
Openness is correlated with creativity.
The big five are:
Openness (novelty seeking)
Conscientiousness. (orderliness)
Extraversion (stimulation)
Agreeableness (friendliness)
Neuroticism (irritability)
Extraversion is reward seeking because of dopamine. Extraverted people constantly need to be active. Introverted people are less active.
Chinese low verbal IQ is found in their written language. It’s quite inefficient to say the least and it’s non-phonetic. The Japanese are a few notches better, because their written language is phonetic and they later substituted the Chinese ideograms with an alphabet.
JS, i would say that greeks are the most hospitable
in all my travels i have found the Swiss to be the coldest people i have ever met. I got the same feeling from Germans.
The friendliest people i met in my travels in europe were the greeks , the scottish and the Irish.
Of course the best treatment i ever got was in asia but that was white worship
asians have no self respect
I found northern euro women to be very friendly. Its the men who are a bit cold.
I would guess that southern euros are more compassionate because they are more socialist.
asians have no self respect
If true, it’s consistent with Rushton’s claim that East Asians have the lowest self-esteem, because Rushton regarded self-esteem as an r selected trait since those with high self esteem are arrogant enough to mate with lots of women because they think they’re all that and a bag of chips.
Visit a beach resort in a Greek speaking area and visit a beach resort in a Turk speaking area — the feel and character is almost night n day between the 2. The Turkish beaches come across as cold, not very inviting, certainly not as sensuous as the Greek speaking beach areas. Turkey is West Asia and so is Israel and they set a demarcation for what is Western and what is Oriental.
Arabs are not particularly unfriendly people. In the Qur’an it says – Allah, the most compassionate, may peace be upon you. East Asians are just people with low empathy without a religion or philosophy. They were first to become sedentary and develop a rice culture. Everything else is secondary and unnecessary.
OCEAN Personality test
https://ocean.cambridgeanalytica.org/
My results.
Turks seems like a mix between Arabs & East Asians. Like the former, they can be very agressive and feel easily offended. Their coldness, lack of sense of humor and low extroversion are what they share with the latter.
Turkish wedding.
Turks are very related to Ashkenazim, their closest Caucasoid relative, more so than Greeks.
It could be assumed that the Turks inherited the genes of the later Mongoloid which are today’s Chinese, Koreans and to a certain extent the Japanese. Genghis Khan and his Mongol Horde were of the 1st Mongoloid variant on the verge of extinction after his line.
I dislike the Anglo Proles but I think the BBC got it right that Genghis looks more like this actor:
A phenotype that is common among the Japanese.
Now look at the this painting from China, a few hundred years after his death:
He looks like a guy coming from one of the Chinatowns throughout the Western world. There is no way that this beta phenotype could have conquer half of the world during his time.
And paintings can be quite misleading. Muslims from Persia portrayed themselves as East Asians in the Middle Ages.
If you think about it, the Muslims were way ahead of their time. If they were able to borrow from Greek Science and Philosophy, Persian Literature, Hindu Astronomy and Numerals, but nothing coming from the Chinese, with the exception of painting and ceramics, perhaps herbal medicine, this says a lot. East Asians were of no use to the Muslims, when it came to anything relating to verbal IQ.
I would guess that southern euros are more compassionate because they are more socialist.
Nonsense. Coming from a person credulous enough to think Arabs are good-hearted people because they are “the enemies of Israël”, doesn’t surprise me one bit.
[redacted by pp, June 24, 2017]
Jimmy, last time you and truthteller got into an ugly argument I redacted his comment, so in fairness this time I’m redacting yours. I can understand you not being able to get along with Mug of Pee but truthteller can be reasoned with so there’s no need for you two to fight. What makes this blog fun is that we have people with such different views discussing taboo topics.
To JS
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQb2I1X2t0TDZtMXM/edit
Turks are actually closer to Georgians, some Central Asians, and Armenians than Ashkenazi Jews though not terribly far.
However Jews have been said to share the armenoid phenotype (the nose trademark), however people of the Caucasus proper have alot more Bronze age heritage from Indo-European migrations, Jews are generally genetically they are closer to Levantine people and Southern Italians.
I would guess that southern euros are more compassionate because they are more socialist.
was that a joke hymie?
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was that a joke hymie? ”
more compassionate with their own people.
it was only a few weeks ago that i was telling afro that southern euros are very racist towards blacks.
put 2 and 2 together you idiot
[redacted by pp, June 25, 2017] constantly revealing how weak your reasoning abilities are
southern euros are more compassionate with their own people.
a great example is the disgusting and widespread practice of zero hours contracts in the UK .
Zero hour contracts are illegal in Spain
They have small exceptions for youth and stuff like that but the way its practiced in the UK is completely illegal in spain
Hispanism in the New World is Order of another form of Islam.
Anglo societies alienates everyone including native Anglos.
You told me so and you were saying shit as usual.
Southern Europe and Europe as a whole are not racist, the US and Australia are.
And worse, they have no culture or appreciation for cultures. Unless you want to count what we think of liberals as SJW.
So what makes Anglo societies attractive? Money — just ask the East Asians!
Ok. So i was eating my fried chicken and listening to dildo realio, the latest jewish rap sendation when i realised thatweve only had one black president. Think about it – if obama was white would he even have had to contest the election?
Hahaha even though straight white men control politics they cant stop a brilliant black man!!
As it was the neocons got very confused about supporting their puppet mccain or obama who would wmbarass the whites and fulfill the magic negro prophecy.
Deep down we all want to believe in magic negro. You see it was conditioned from birth. They select the books, tv, academics and so on. Deep down your morality is a fraud. This explaons voting for obama. It was a hypnotised decision. It would seem we operate deus ex machina in terms of our morals (goyim). Cant you fogure that out.? Really – are your feelongs ‘innate’. Is your morality rational? That is – the Primary Directive.
Speaki g as a black man., yo.
For me the greatest sportsman is without a doubt muhammed ali. He was very charismatc and a great boxing talent. Really a super guy. But ki g lebron is also great.
Please ignore baseball and football goyim. You must watch the mandated cultural programming goyim..
As a matter of fact jews tend to dislike sports. Its because they havent watched muhammed ali!
Current Affairs
It looks like Trumpy has weathered the Russia storm now. The jews seem deflated after Georgia came back as a V. For now Trumpy has showed his 5SD social intelligence again and outmaneouvered the jews amazingly.
The man needs covering fire. The FBI, police and I suspect elements of the pld gentile elite are on his side (he simply would not have made it this far otherwise).
But people need to speak of the jews more openly. Thats the only way we avoid violence in my opinion. To beat a fraud, just tell people about the fraudster.
Now I must say I was very amused to see a game hosted on AOE 3 online saying “We need to stop the Jews. NR. No op civs. 3v3”. Hahaha. That wasn’t me and I pretended not to know what he was talking about.
Same as youtube comment sections. There’s been a tipping point reached and people are seeing why we have 7 wars going on, black men all over the media (2% of the population in the UK) and anti white education textbooks/movies.
Its crystal clear now.
As an aside, people like the world heavyweight champion in boxing, Tyson Fury (dethroned because of anti-semitic comments) and faced with media silence, don’t need philosophers to tell him the truth – they’re instinctive and see the crap organically. These ‘thug’ types always knew naturally. Thats why jews portray hillibillies and southerners as evil. Because, they know true evil. No surprise Fury is celtic descended. Like Gibson, Trump, MacDonald and any other very jew aware white.
NE Asians are a nations of Animekittys without the psychosis. Just pliant go along get along, don’t rock the boat. The future is sex dolls (ever wonder why most of this R&D happens in Japan gents?). Technocratic morons.
There is a certain sense of a type of retardation. I believe it is low verbal inference. Not use of language per se. But a disjointed propositional logic. Its almost like someone got a surgeon’s knife and carved out the one part of the brain to think diabolically or non naively or fastened it to suspend disbelief of received data from designated authority from childbirth.
A n aspergers person takes information sources as justifiably true despite not discerning the basis for it as long as its from a ‘designated person’. And desiugnated persons designate persons. I mean in the hierarchy Master overrides parents, and parents their friends. Not just politically speaking.
Its artificial. No human could naturally select for that type of thinking pattern. This is why aspergers people are not seen as sexually attractive even though some of the thought is ‘masculine’.
I have argued in fact that is feminine – hence the physiognomy of thin arms, and abundance of homosexuality. Its submissive.
In my opinion it was selected FOR, by Master, not darwinism. And it explains the lack of inventions, creativity, music/arts and stagnation. You see following rules is a precondition for stagnation and eventual capitulation to marauders.
I could easily write a book on the topic because its a bizarre point of evolution that semingly only has happened in the past 150 years.
The basis for the artificiality of it stems from its recent appearence. There is well know ancient and old literature and references to schizophrenia.
There is almost no classical or ancient sources talking of what we would call aspergers.
And if there is, I suspect these are schizoid people. Not aspergers like Emily Dickinson.
I’m coming around to the idea that women in workplaces make the place completely dysfunctional. It starts to turn into politics, gamma needling, blame shifting, and of course sexual favours very quickly.
Of course, not all women are complete cesspits, but when a woman starts blaming me for herself being a shit project manager in a gamma backhanded way to senior people, it definitely reminds me that the whole gamma male pattern is at its heart about avoiding pain and being womanly and political – which is basially how a woman navigates the world to acquire resources (but most women don’t really care about becoming rich).
Almost grabbed her while she was doing her jerkoff gamma routine and told her being fat will be worse for her career than being an incompetent project manager in front of the man.
sounds like you can’t handle the fact that women are more competent than you.
peepee has never blogged about flushton’s theory that women are dumber than men. sad!
Political correctness.
But my general observation is that women may be slightily smarter than men in a composite way – including social intelligence.
But the extremes on the tails are pretty obviously male dominated.
Someone wrote that philosophy was ‘sexist’ because there were no women philosophers. But of course.
Why don’t you , PP, ever write about possible future of humans ? You don’t like being fully speculative? If I missed something posted on the issue, excuse me then
I did write about that.
Pumpkin says well all turn asian.
Philosopher once again associates me with Aspergers and sex dolls.
This makes me feel insulted but I do think I have to consider what he says. So I came up with a scale of the severity of my families condition.
I would say that I am 20 percent Aspergers and 80 percent neurotypical.
My mom is 40 percent Aspergers and 60 percent neurotypical.
My sister is 10 percent Aspergers and 90 percent neurotypical.
(my sister draws photorealistic images)
My brother is 30 percent Aspergers and 70 percent neurotypical.
These are my estimates for my family members condition as it is related to Aspergers. This condition is a spectrum as most experts agree that the severity of it can vary person to person. I think I am normal enough to interact with people without them noticing that my way of communication is odd. Today my mom took me and my sister to a Chinese restruant. But before that, we had to give my friends sister a ride. She told me that because of our discussion that she thought I was smarter than she was. She said her IQ was 128. I am very good at having high-level discussions with people in person. I am good at rhetoric and theoretical reasoning one on one. I am less fluid when it comes to text comments because it takes longer to undo misrepresentations than it does in a face to face instant feedback discussion. In person, I can know if I am effectively communicating but in text, the concepts presented do not always convey my true meaning do to the fact that disagreements are harder to resolve in text format.
Six hours ago I went to the dating website O.K. Cupid. I answered over 600 questions and filled out my profile. Most big companies have big data analytics so just a while ago I got an email that said wich states and which countries were best and worse for me to find a good relationship in. I will post my results because I am interested in what people her think of the matches I got. I want to know what people think of the states and countries in my results.
Currently, I am reading this book:
(The Filter Bubble: What the Internet Is Hiding from You, by Eli Pariser)
I think this book is important for understanding A.I.- I know philosopher will put emphasis on my Aspergers because I am interested in A.I. but it is a very important subject to me. What I posted earlier above is about the brain and creativity. The reason I am into A.I. is that I am not creative in many ways, but I have always wanted to understand how things work. I have read over 700 books in my life and watched Star Wars and Sar Trek. I am just interested in so many things and video games are a big influence of my study of A.I. – I think A.I. can be created by generating a self-sustainable loop that modifies itself to create novel perspectives from users data. Complex pathways can be made with recursive loops in software. Imagination is possible in a computer program because it follows the same principles as the internal feedback loops in the human brain.
Often I am sad that my emotions keep me from functioning properly. I am sad I am not in an elite college learning new things. I want to be creative but I am very isolated. Mostly I just use the internet. But I learn allot every day. I would say my information score on the wais4 should really be 160 not 140. (I know much more information than the sampling items in subtest looks for). One thing I do is I constantly think about stuff. This has I believe create some form of a recursive loop inside me. I do not know what kind of loop it is but because it is recursive and recursion generates creativity, them I must be created in some fashion because I am thinking all the time. And it is a diversity of things I think about and research. That makes me even more creative in my own way.
I dobt think youre self aware enough to see it quite frankly.
I think the only way you would believe me is if we went through the checklist together.
People tend to exaggerate the differences amongst their family members. You’d expect them to be somewhat similar to you since they share similar genes.
“People tend to exaggerate the differences amongst their family members. You’d expect them to be somewhat similar to you since they share similar genes. ”
its scary how similar i am to my brother.
we’re not close at all
I can easily go 6-10 months without speaking to him.
last year i flew back home for thanksgiving and heard him playing music from his phone and track after track was identical to what was on my phone.
I listen to some very rare stuff and yet he listened to the exact same music
I also remember him bringing a chick over for thanksgiving and she looked exactly like my ex-girlfriend.
it was scary
The only difference between me and him is that he is extremely politically liberal but i hear that political views have a low heritability
You’d expect them to be somewhat similar to you since they share similar genes.
similar in appearance only. the heritability of all psychological traits other than IQ is 0.
similar in appearance only. the heritability of all psychological traits other than IQ is 0.
C’mon man, you don’t believe that…
Did you delete my comment pumpkin?
I do not see it and I know I submitted it.
Please don’t worry about me.
you don’t need to protect me.
I put some effort into that comment.
Please restore it.
Thanks.
I love my pumpkin pie.
Did you delete my comment pumpkin?
It got classified as spam but it’s published now.
Yo,
Yes. Philosophy is essentially the Greeks (which I would hesitate to class as Western, and more Levantine as it has heavy Eygptian/Anatolian influence), Scholastics, Germans and the Legal Scholars (20th C Brits/Americans).
You could call the Frankfurt School of Derrida/Foucalt/Herzl whence ‘postmodernism’ and semanticology emerged, a different tack on the Autist Legal Studies Centres for Unlearning.
Now I have to contend that Robert is wrong about jews being only genius in the 18th century. This is because jews were much more nomadic. Completely barred from academia and socially segregated for idea mixing. And yet they produced Christianity.
The jews were always the highest V race of man and probably the highest V+Q composite race all along.
It just goes to show ability has nothing to do with having a good contribution to the human race. For every breakthrough in science 100k white women are raped and the crime is covered up by jews. Its social dumping.
These breakthroughs are worth it for some people though who don’t suffer.
I happen to think people were happier in the 1950s with much less technologeeee.
I have always said technology won’t solve man’s problems. Enlightenment will. [redacted by pp, June 23, 2017]
I wouldn’t call the scholastics ‘philosophers’ actually. I think the consensus is right in that they are theologians and borderline sophists. Now, there is interesting work from Aquinas and some issues tangentially lead to philsophical enquiry. But it is essentially theology – which is a kind of branch of philosophy I suppose.
Lawrence Strauss put philosophy in with theology and said philosophy has no answers for our problems. So while Krauss is doing research that won’t change anyones life, philosophers on the side of evil and sophistry and philosophers on the side of truth have duked it out over the past 200 years leading to revolutions, upheavel, civil war and the Final Confrontation.
You see Galileo was a flashpoint in people questioning the role of dogma. But he was not necessary. Science cannot even resolve the dogma around investigating racial genetics. Because it is a political philosophy problem in a meta sense. Not a scientific one. The scientist exists in a man made world of Master. He is funded to hew to Master’s directives.
Everyone with a social intelligence near aspergers level will never be able to neurologically grasp the preceeding two paragraphs.
To the people in control, free thinking is dangerous if it does not serve a minimal purpose to give the controllers more control. So they must control the intellectual atmosphere of the city so that what people think benefits the system and not the people because if the people could realize that what they think can be expanded to areas forbidden then will realize that they are less under control because the Forbin or way of thinking actually lead to a greater understanding of the world. People must be conditions to think the way the controllers want them to think. This means they will automatical reject or not venture into areas of thought that could be explored that would give them a non-sanctioned view of the world. If you understand how the world is then you will know that other people believe things that determine their actions and attitude to others and the environment. All the controllers need to do is to get the public to oppose certain views and to ostracize people exploring those views. But behaviorism and operant conditioning can only go so far. Personality is genetic and Intelligence is genetic. An extremely straight man cannot be conditioned to be homosexual and because of the diversity of people’s psychology, different groups will react differently to conditioning that is not even very well organized. Eventually, people follow their genes and the segment total conditionable act as such and the totally independent discover the real world. The rest are in between. The number of social groups has been studying a long time. It’s called sociology. People can be influenced but psychology and culture play a huge role.
One thing to mention is that my IQ is 113 and you are probably 125. The reason you view me as lacking self-awareness of my Aspergers is that I am just not are intelligent as you. I have noticed that you mention many concepts from what you have read. From what I know I would be able to acquire a bachelor’s degree and you would be able to get a Ph.D. You have mentioned in the past that you interview people with IQ’s of 120 to understand their conditioning. So you are really intelligent. So maybe you know what my conditioning is since my IQ is so low. But to give you some information: I live in the U.S.A. in New Mexico. You live in the UK and have a much different background than I do. Our cultural differences might be a factor in how you see me. Because I have some notion of what British people are like (not to be insulting but they seem snobbish). I remember talking to a girl on a forum who was Irish, she was hot blooded. She fantasized of joining the IRA.
What makes me the most confused is that you do not see Aspergers as a spectrum.
I said I was 20 percent Aspergers and 80 percent neurotypical.
It is obvious to me my mom has Aspergers much much worse than I do.
So that means I am more normal than my mom.
And I hate it that you think I do not question Authority.
I know that what I am getting is not always the truth.
Wher I grew up I was in a trailer park and I watch lots of tv ad read many books at the library. I read the space books, the science books, and the Robots books. I read the book Dinotopia. I think the diversity of media I was exposed to increases my creative thinking skills. I bet in the U.K. the books in libraries and shows on T.V. for kids was much different than what I got. Two movies I saw as a kid were Atlantis the lost empire and Back to the future. I read 20,000 leagues under the sea when I was 12. I played video games on the Nintendo Game Cube. U.K. kids probably got much different games.
You philosopher age probably ten years older than I am. That is a big generation gap. So your childhood was much different than mine was. Your avatar shows it. You probably read adult material when younger. And maybe you watched adult tv when younger also. This is why you have the frame of reference you do. And why you see me as haveing the mentality of a child and thus probably complete Aspergers. But you must look int my IQ level when you make your judgments. You are 125 and ten years older than me and from The U.K. – I am 113, 29 years old and grew up in one of the poorest states of my country. My mom has severe Aspergers and I am not as bad as she is. She never talked to me, and I never saw my dad after age 6. I never got mature advice from anyone.
Ever since 5th grade, I was in advanced classes. But I dropped out of college. I still like to learn stuff and that is why I am on the internet all the time. I understand that people mostly cannot think. I understand people are ideological. I watch videos all the time about the intellectual subject. I watched many atheist videos on youtube about religion. I talk to people one forum to see what they have to say. I think the Berkeley riots about Milo Yinopolis shows the intellectual poverty of SWJ’s. I voted for Trump because of how Hillary Clinton made me feel. She feels fake and spiteful. I am a sensitive person and I have a lot of empathy (Philosopher might say something about feminine submissiveness). I am gentle and meek and I like the Bible. I have mental problems but they are better now.
I am just saying philosopher has not put it all together yet. He has never met me in person and has little information about me. My Aspergers is not as bad as he thinks it is. I do understand things he would say a person with Asperger can’t understand.
I can feel my mind regenerating a bit. Robert’s right. A bit of alcohol is kind of like acid wash on a damp wall.
The psychiatrist mentions the schizophrenic mind degenerates and short term memory becomes impaired for memory formation.
I have a brilliant little game now where the stakes are very high and I have to figure out how to stop it without becoming a heroin addict.
I sometimes feel like Rawls was right. We do exist in toto in a kind of veil before the Game begins.
Now, it begs the question whether the game has varying difficulty levels.
I can objectively say that the game I was put into is harder than most. But certainly I feel sorry for those born with more severe defects like for example, down syndrome. And yet, I suspect down sydrome people live fairly stress free painless lives. Or aspergers people. Or retarded people. Or Afro.
On the subject of Rawls. I think he was the last great philosopher. Maybe Popper.
Kind of bizarre to think that the formalisation of philsophy has resulted in so few new ideas the last 100 years. Most of it is total garbage in semantics and make belief jewish reality.
Well not really, its purpose built into the system to strangle any new mode of enquiry involving social intelligence. After Marx the deans probably had a hot flush. Note the way academic philosophy has prodiced nothing. Nietsche was a classicist and language scholar. Same as Chomsky.
Its under embargo.
But Rawls foundation for social justice is amazing in the legal studies cirumstances. I’m surprised he wasn’t tripped up into defending the use of the word ‘it’ during his time. Some spergy silly smart grad student probably tried.
The postmodernists are right about 1 thing. We are not the sum total of our instinct and genetics. We can choose to override our impulses or restrain unhealthy and immoral behaviours. Unfortunately they seem to argue to unrestrain unhealthy and immoral behaviours. Because they have a political agenda methinks.
There is a fundamental Phil, a socialised/acculutred/indoctrinated Phil, and a chosen Phil. Now the interesting question is whether fundamental base Phil is really Phil, or whether the very act of choosing to be a certain Phil shows even more fundamental tendencies that override even instinct again. A spirtiual Phil so to speak. Or is this animus a derivation from socialised/indoctrinated Phil.
Questions. Questions.
The philosophy of ‘the good/noble life’ and normative questions around living – completely ignored since the Greeks.
To put it concretely Galileo uttered ‘and yet it moves’, but it was Martin Luther that did for Catholicism more. Gaileo’s science wasn’t accepted until about 150 years later as the scientists themselves were brainwashed.
Just like today by Zion.
In that 150 years, people wrote pamphlets and letters and protested against the political purpose of the Church’s dogma.
Today people anonymously talk of Zion. As doing in in public or under your own name will lead to exile and outcasting by brainwashed people serving the evil race of man.
The aspergers philosopher cannot see that historical sequence of events relating to Galileo.Neither will the aspergers economist see that it took 120 years before Spinning Jenny produced greater social wealth.
In both sequences social unrest and social uprising is conveninently ‘forgotten’.
Because that is what Master believes is necessary to control.
And aspergers man is biologically inclined to receive rather than interpret information. And so, for the autists, Galileo ended dogma. Not Voltaire and Paine.
The genius of Marx was reinterpreting history to form a new Narrative. Not in the analysis of the capitalist system of his day per se.
Without histroy we have no basis in thought.
My suspicion is that the Jews have worked this out and are hiding vast swathes of modern and pre-modern history from us all. And only a few specialists, who have no idea of how these events are intertwined with the broder narrative of the high IQ psychopath race’s nomad existence are aware. They burn books in other words.
Not the first time in history.
I believe of all subjects pozzed out, history is the one the most dearly desire to rewrite and use as a weapon. The equivalent is hypnotising someone and givng them a new identity. Its extremely vile. An Abomination against those that took these original ‘refugees’ in.
#Morethanarefugee
If I had to guess, people have written about jewish predation many times and in many contexts before at the very least.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Science is used to standardise methods for ascertaining truth values in statements. For those with superior reasoning in whatever way, its not necessary and in fact a waste of time.
For example mathematicians are not scientists. They don’t practice the Popperian method. People confuse math with science. You don’t need to go hit Vegas and experiment 40 times and max out your credit to see what will happen to your bank balance. You can work it out.
Likewise philosophers should verbally use reason to instigate analysis.
Wittgenstein seems to confuse formality with increasing the truth value of statements. Because he has aspergers. The reason why language should not be like computer coding is because it restricts what one can say about the world which defeats the purpose of investigations. Its not longer a handrail, but a vice-grip.
If I only wore rubber boots for mucky paths, and only wore rubber boots for everything I wouldn’t be able to go swimming or play football. Aspergers people think rubber boots is the best way to go. Because they have aspergers.
Normal people can talk in slang or pidgeon german i.e. english and still make true statements.
How does the Sulawesi Indonesian cave art (currently estimated to be the oldest, http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journey-oldest-cave-paintings-world-180957685/) fit the theory of the relatively sudden change in levels of creativity? Would it be some kind of proof that Southeast Asians was the first step up from African culture?
It depends how you define art. To me, it should only qualify as art if it’s an obvious representation of something like a sculpture of a person or a drawing of an animal. Merely carving lines for example is not unambiguous evidence of art.
I meant the babirusa painting, not the hands.
Artificial design or made-man = art, whatever the quality, at priori. Today: ”modern art” = art without [required, desirable] talent. Arts namely visual arts are often representation or emulation of natural ”things”.