I am trying to create a list of the World’s 100 most influential living people, ranked in order of influence from 1 to 100.
Time magazine already has a similar list, but their list is not ranked, and is so absurdly politically correct, incoherent and celebrity focused that I feel they need competition. Forbes publishes a list of the most powerful people in the World, but as Condi Rice once said, power means nothing unless you can turn it into influence. So I am trying to create a list of people who have actually had a real impact; people without whom the World would be a very different place. It could be a good impact or a bad impact.
The list I’m trying to create is inspired by Michael Hart’s list The 100, except his was the most influential people of all time. This list is going to be The Living 100: The 100 most influential LIVING people of all time. But I have to hurry up, because a lot of the people on my list are quite old and could die any day now.
Below is a list of over 160 nominees I am considering, but I need to narrow it down to just 100. Please share your thoughts in the comment section, on who belongs on this list and who doesn’t. You can also suggest nominees I didn’t think of. They can be from any country, work in any field, be famous or obscure, good or evil; the only criteria is that they’ve had a huge influence on history and that they’re still alive.
THE NOMINEES

Tim Berners-Lee: created the world wide web, the most transformative invention of our time.

Mikhail Gorbachev: played a key role in the fall of the Soviet Union

James Watson: co-discovered the structure of DNA

George W. Bush: President of the United States during 9/11 and the start of the Iraq war
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Vladimir Putin: According to commenter Tenn “has changed the world’s geopolitical landscape more in the last five years than has any other individual.”

The neocons: Considered the brains, drive and visionaries behind the incredibly transformational foreign policy of the George W. Bush administration
Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr: ran America’s most powerful media outlet during a period of incredible political change

James Alexander Thomson: derived the first human embryonic stem cell (SC) line

Abe Karem: invented the predator drone, transforming the nature of warfare

Stanley Cohen and Herbert Boyer: Created the first genetically engineered organism

Hu Jintao: presided over the rise of China

George Soros: Instrumental in advancing leftist policies in America and Europe

Anthony Kennedy: According to commenter Tenn, “US Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, who, as the swing vote on the court has, for many years now, had more power over US law than any other person, including sitting presidents.
An example? Citizens United. Those on the left often deride this case as the one that ascribed personhood to corporations and allowed them unlimited amounts of political spending. Kennedy’s was the vote that swung the decision to the right.
Another example? Obergefell vs Hodges, the decision that legalized same-sex marriage in every US state. Again, Kennedy was the deciding vote; though this time he sided with the left.
Time and again, it’s been his vote that’s chosen the court’s outcome. The rest of the justices tend to vote along ideological lines. Kennedy’s less predictable.”

Paul Berg: contributed to basic research involving nucleic acids

Walter Gilbert: did pioneering work in devising methods for determining the sequence of nucleotides in a nucleic acid.

Alain Aspect: According to thebestschools.org, Aspect settled a 70-year-old dispute between Niels Bohr and Albert Einstein over the basic understanding of quantum physics by demonstrating the fascinating phenomenon of entanglement (non-local instantaneous interactions between particles, which Einstein rejected for propagating physical influences faster than the speed of light). Aspect’s work is foundational to the field of quantum computing.

Oprah: Created confession culture & new a more intimate form of media communication, paving the way for social media and reality TV. Broke the taboo over discussing sexual abuse, leading millions of victims to recovery. Even back in the 1980s, popularized a genre of talk show that’s been credited with mainstreaming LGBT people. Played the decisive role in electing the first black president and first lady of the United States, who brought health care to millions of Americans. Her televised book club has been credited with making literature accessible to millions.

Barack Obama: First black in recorded history to ever be the most powerful human on the planet. Brought dignity and status to over a billion blacks. Brought healthcare to millions of working Americans. Saved the world from war with Iran.

Stephen Spielberg: His movies captured the imagination of the World and his film Schlindler’s List had a profound impact on how global elites view the ethical burden left by WWII

Alan Greenspan: influenced the economy of the World’s powerful country and the peak of its power

Tu Youyou: found a treatment for Malaria that saved millions of lives

Donald Trump: the man who ended political correctness

Bill Gates & Paul Allen: played a key role in launching the computer revolution

Ted Turner: launched the 24 hour cable news revolution
George Lucas: According to Trevor Butterwoth of Forbes.com: “Lucas founded Industrial Light and Magic in 1975 to bring his vision of Star Wars to life. ILM went on to revolutionize special effects in the movies, pioneering motion control camera techniques and spearheading the computer-generated imaging revolution in the 1980s. Perhaps more important, Lucas’ original trilogy of movies redefined the economics of the movie industry.”

Ben Bernanke: Chairman of the Federal Reserves during the 2007-2008 financial crisis

Xi Jinping: presiding over the rise of China

Yao Ming: brought status and confidence to millions of males in one of most powerful regions of the World by defying stereotypes about East Asian men

isamu akasaki hiroshi amano and shuji nakamura: invented efficient blue light-emitting diodes, which has enabled bright and energy-saving white light sources.

Bernard Munyagishari: Accused of playing a prominent role in the 1994 Rwandan Genocide

Alec John Jeffreys: Considered the inventor of forensic DNA profiling

Margaret Heafield Hamilton: Played a key role in putting humans on the moon

Colin Powell Played a decisive role in shifting American public opinion in support of the Iraq war
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Gloria Steinem: The mother of feminism

Ian Wilmut: first person to clone an animal

Angela Merkel: played a major role in changing the demographics of Europe
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Bashar Hafez al-Assad: in power during the Syrian refugee crisis

Phil Gramm: According to Time magazine, “He played a leading role in writing and pushing through Congress the 1999 repeal of the Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial banks from Wall Street. He also inserted a key provision into the 2000 Commodity Futures Modernization Act that exempted over-the-counter derivatives like credit-default swaps from regulation by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Credit-default swaps took down AIG, which has cost the U.S. $150 billion thus far.”

Richard Severin Fuld, Jr.: was CEO of Lehman Brothers around the time the financial crisis emerged.

chad hurley steve chen and jawed karim: created youtube which revolutionized media

Henry Kissinger: According to Wikipedia, “Kissinger played a prominent role in United States foreign policy between 1969 and 1977. During this period, he pioneered the policy of détente with the Soviet Union, orchestrated the opening of relations with the People’s Republic of China, and negotiated the Paris Peace Accords, ending American involvement in the Vietnam War.”

Howard Kohr: executive director of the AIPAC during a critical period of U.S. foreign policy

Steven J Rosen: One of the top officials at AIPAC during a critical period of U.S. foreign policy

Bradford Parkinson: The father of the Global Positioning System, which revolutionized how we navigate

Steve Wozniak: A major pioneer in the personal computer revolution

Khalid Sheikh (Shaikh) Mohammed: considered a mastermind of the September 11th attacks which dramatically changed the World

The dancing Israelis: Their behavior on September 11th 2001 inspired countless conspiracy theories.

Deng Xiaoping: the man behind China’s economic development and the creator of the one child policy

Jimmy Wales: Changed the way the World shares knowledge
Sheldon Adelson: helped make the U.S. Republican party incredibly pro-Israel

Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein: brought down a U.S. president and inspired a generation of journalists
George Romero: created Night of the Living Dead in 1968 and the culture has been obsessed with zombies ever since

Jack Dorsey, Evan Williams, Christopher “Biz” Stone, Noah Glass: the founders of twitter

DJ Clive “Kool Herc” Campbell: the father of hip hop

Eminem: did for rap music what Elvis did for rock; brought it to a mass white audience.

Madonna: paved the way for an entire generation of provocative female performers such as Lady Gaga and helped make sluttiness culturally acceptable.

Paul McCartney: the leading living member of the most influential rock band of all time

Phil Donahue: pioneered the provocative daytime talk show, the most important counter-culture movement of the late 20th century

Yang Lan: Considered the Oprah of China

Howard Stern: revolutionized American radio and helped make American culture more vulgar and sexual
Nigel Farage: played a key role in the British exit from the European Union.

Manmohan Singh: presided over the rise of India

The Dalai Lama: shaped the spirituality of millions
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Ricki Lake: helped mainstream gays by hosting one of the more edgy Oprah style talk shows in the 1990s

Aishwarya Rai: The woman who put Bollywood on the map

Rain: as one of the most worshipped people of all time, he’s inspired millions of young people in the influential region of East Asia
Steve Sailer: iconic blogger who explored taboos and launched a revolution against political correctness

Mark Zuckerberg: created the most influential social networking forum
Queen Elizabeth: brought dignity to England for decades
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Rupert Murdoch: his global right-wing media empire has changed the World

Jimmy Carter: negotiated a peace between Israel and Egypt

Larry Page and Sergey Brin: dominated the way we search for information in the 21st century

Bill Clinton: President of the World’s most influential country at the peak of its influence

Dick Cheney powerful Vice President during the transformative Bush administration

Barbara Walters: trail blazer and iconic role model for women in media; helped make news more celebrity focused

Mark Burnett: the father of reality TV
James Flynn: Did more to challenge the science of psychometrics and racial differences in IQ than anyone on the planet

John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt: Their 2007 book The Israel lobby is credited with influencing the Obama’s administration policy towards Iran
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David Plouffe: played a key role in electing Barack Obama president

Diana Ross: helped pave the way for blacks in popular culture. Inspired a young Oprah and Michael Jackson to dream bigger.

Leon Panetta: director of the CIA during the rise of cyber warfare

Noam Chomsky: influenced the field of linguistics and shaped the left’s view of U.S. foreign policy

Karl Rove: played a key role in electing George W. Bush president

David Axelrod: played a key role in electing Barack Obama

Efraim Halevy: served as director of Mossad during a period of great change
George H.W. Bush: President of the United States during the peak of its power, presided over a war, Vice President to the transformative Ronald Reagan and father to the transformative George W. Bush
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Gregor Gysi: Wanted for more ethnic diversity in Europe, and with the refugee crisis, he got it.

Gerald Levin: consolidated mass media in America

Norman Pearlstine: influential media editor

Michael Eisner: influential media mogul

abu bakr al-Baghdadi: the leader of Isis

Richard Dawkins: revolutionized the way we think of evolution and helped cause the decline of religion

Edward Witten: influential physicist

satoshi ōmura: discovery and development of various pharmaceuticals originally occurring in microorganisms
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Tsai Ing-wen: Taiwanese politician currently serving as the President of the Republic of China, commonly referred to as Taiwan

Jin Liqun: President of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank

Takaaki Kajita and Arthur B. McDonald: prove the existence of neutrino oscillation and that neutrinos have mass

Guo Pei: best known for designing dresses for Chinese celebrities, and in America for Rihanna’s trailing yellow gown at the 2015 Met Ball

Sonia Gandhi: presided over the rise of India
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Malala Yousafzai: Pakistani activist for female education and the youngest-ever Nobel Prize laureate

Kailash Satyarthi: According to Wikipedia “Indian children’s rights and education advocate and an activist against child labour. He founded the Bachpan Bachao Andolan in 1980 and has acted to protect the rights of more than 83,000 children from 144 countries.”

Amitabh Bachchan: helped put Bollywood on the map

Abhishek Bachchan: helped put Bollywood on the map

Larry King: influenced the media for decades

William Dean Singleton: American newspaper executive. Founder and executive board chairman of MediaNews Group
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Paul Krugman: influential economist and pundit

Gregory Mankiw: best known in academia for his work on New Keynesian economics.

Tom Glocer: former CEO of Thomson Reuters and Reuters

Harvey Levin: creator of TMZ

Katie Couric: The woman who destroyed Sarah Palin’s political ambitions

Ehud Barak: PM of Israel during a critical time

Billy Graham: helped shape the U.S. evangelical movement

Bob Dylan: Inspired the World’s most influential generation with his counter-culture music

Tony Blair: Dragged Britain into war with Iraq & brought Clinton style third way politics to the UK
Jean Chretien: By opposing the Iraq war, he made Canada the moral authority of the World
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Ellen DeGeneres: First openly gay mass talk show host

Jerry Springer: Made America more vulgar and sexual

Bill Maher: broke taboos and promoted atheism

Bill Cosby: helped make blacks mainstream & culturally acceptable

Rush Limbaugh: leader of right-wing talk radio
Al Gore: popularized Global warming

Clarence Thomas: spent decades on the Supreme Court of the World’s most influential country

ruth bader Ginsburg: spent decades on the Supreme Court of the World’s most influential country

Hillary Clinton: played a key role in American policy for two decades, first as a politically active First Lady, then as an influential U.S. Senator, then as a Secretary of State, and also inspired countless girls with her historic run for President.
Judith Miller: Helped convince America Saddam Hussein was a threat
John Carpenter: His 1978 classic Halloween created the modern day slasher film

Dieudonné: Blurring the line between humour and hate in France











Lol. Try Yoshiharu or Seiuemon Inaba.
Not sure influence counts as much these day’s as in the number of people impacted as the change of that impact.
I read this book when I was 18, it changes my views more than any other book. The solution to machine intelligence is undoubtedly solved. Pumpkins blog is about IQ, machine IQ will surpass all humans. (I have ideas how this is possible)
I that book.
*I have that book
Cat, please create a list of who you consider the top 30 living people who have most influenced the World. If enough people create a top 30 list, at least 100 names will be mentioned, and whoever gets mentioned on the most top 30 lists, will rank highest on the aggregate top 100 list, I’ll be publishing. The more perspectives I get, the more accurate my aggregate list will be, and you bring a unique perspective coming from a troubled life.
Cat, that’s only technology. I need your list of the 30 most influential living humans from any field.
Almost every single jew on that list has had a negative influence on humanity in the fields of: Israeli lebensraum warmongering, propaganda, debasing culture, financial fraud/predation and so on.
I would get rid of the Obama staffers first. Obama will not be considered a momentous president, so his staffers are moot.
The neoconserhvatives are the bane of humanity.
I’d add: Bloomberg, Paul Singer, the cuckolds McCain/Graham, Mel Gibson, Aaron Sorkin, Martin Scorsese, JK Rowling, George RR Martin, some of the magic negro pokemon rappers the jews push, Ron Unz, Assange, Snowden, Michael Hayden, Robert Rubin, essentially a whole chunk of people from our ruling politburo in the Council on Foreign Relations, David Rockefeller, and Evelyn Rothschild.
Dude stfu with jew-stuff, talk about a one-track mind
I would get rid of the Obama staffers first. Obama will not be considered a momentous president, so his staffers are moot.
One vote against the Obama staffers, although if Trump can avoid war with Iran and keep health care for the masses, then Obama’s influence rises and his staffers return to next year’s edition of my list.
I’d add: Bloomberg, Paul Singer, the cuckolds McCain/Graham, Mel Gibson, Aaron Sorkin, Martin Scorsese, JK Rowling, George RR Martin, some of the magic negro pokemon rappers the jews push, Ron Unz, Assange, Snowden, Michael Hayden, Robert Rubin, essentially a whole chunk of people from our ruling politburo in the Council on Foreign Relations, David Rockefeller, and Evelyn Rothschild.
1 vote for all of those people.
Doesn’t Unz want to raise minimum wage? Do you know how many problems that’d cause?
Yes. None.
I can see Pumpkin is not a big fans of the arts.
Well here’s a more interesting question. Should the list be of publicly influential people or privately?
Fro example, Merkel/Blair/Bush/Hollande/McCain all have the same policies as what their Master tells them, being just a bunch of sociopathic or cretinous patsies.
Same with Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Bet Merkel wants to invade Russia again.
Except, the Germans will be doing it for Zion,rather than attacking Russia as a Zion vassal state as Hitler thought he was doing. Bolshevism was synonymous with Zionism for Hitler.
So sad. Bismarck would retch to see Frau Muckel let in the third world and kiss the wailing wall and then shortly after buckle on her knees and beg mercy from the Necromancer.
To me, the real measure of influence is “would history have turned out differently had this person never existed?” If the answer is yes, then they are influential.
How can you answer that in practice though? You could get any number of PR toffs or Hollywood b movie actors to fulfil your agenda.
Well Colin Powell is a good example. Although he was just a useful idiot for the neocons, he was incredibly influential because had he not gone before the United Nations in February 2002 to make the case for invading Iraq, the war might never have happened because there was no one else with his credibility, popularity and military authority to replace him. We saw in the polls that support for the war increased sharply after that speech.
Ideally I’d like the list to only consist of people who are serving their own agenda, but that raises all kinds of philosophical questions about how that’s defined.
The question is, could they have gotten someone else to make a speech like that. Personally I’d never heard of Powell before it, but they could have gotten another AA hire ‘war hero for hire’.
On balance you’ve swayed me though, because at the end of the day, he was influential – point of fact. And arguably still is incredibly enough despite ruining his credibility at the UN.
If he had so no, they would have probably bullied Condi Rice into doing it, but she would not have moved the needle of public opinion the way Colin Powell did.
What a cretinous exercise by the jews. It reeks of slime even now.
Yet more autism.
The Premiers of the United States, Russia, China, and possibly India can wake up one day and within 4 minutes end the world.
Now, their may lie ‘private power’ in the selection of the four men (a la zion or whatever).
That’s more reasonable.
By my definition above, virtually all public figures would have really ‘altered history’ by action or inaction.
By my definition above, virtually all public figures would have really ‘altered history’ by action or inaction.
Chiune, can you post your list of the 30 living humans who have most influenced history, however you define it. Whichever names appear on the most top 30 lists (made by my commenters) will rank high on my official list of the 100 most influential.
So I did a bit of digging around on Rupert Murdoch of Fox News/Sky TV and it seems he did what all moguls hoping to ascend to the elite do and marry his daughter off to a jew.
That said Elizabeth’s first husband was astonishingly a magic negro.
For the early 1990s, that was very very uncommon at that level. I daresay Rupert was distraught. Its hard to believe but when I was young, the idea of that was very weird.
She seems a wild horse.
His other daughter looks less hypergamous and married a Scottish nobleman.
I suspect Rupert is not on board with the jew train as much as they think he is. Same with Trumpy.
Like all gentile upwardly mobile, you have to speak the lingo and kiss Zions ring. All it will take is for a modern day Martin Luther to hang the 12 theses up on the church door and it all comes crashing down.
Rupert’s first wife Anna, was a beautiful woman. Very feminine and high empathy eyes. I have a lot of begrudging respect for him. Like Trump he had to break into a jew dominated industry, some would say cartel.
I also found some stuff on the Rothschilds. I’ve just got Niall Ferguson’s House of Rothschild from the library. Maybe that will give me a clue on when they took over. Niall has a remarkable predilection for peppering his narrative in stats and facts and glossing them over or speaking about very major findings in passing.
e.g. jew 2% of Weimar Germany owned 58% of its wealth.
Reading Empire, I developed a strong fondness for the British empire. I think the film Empire of the Sun best displays it. Empire of the Sun is possibly my favourite childhood movie. Very powerful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Jj_0q0rxI&t=2m35s&end=275
There is also Lawrence of Arabia and the movies I remember about the Raj. Ferguson makes a compelling case that the British were a force for good in the world vis a vis the alternatives – Hirohito, Stalin, The Spanish/Portuguese, King Leopold, Ottomans and Napoleon.
Maybe. Maybe they kept them honest though? But Canada and the Anzacs turned out much better than Cuba or Argentina.
Hitler was very fond of the British for similar reasons.
Its sad to see that world is now dead within 2 generations. I got emotional watching the Twilight Zone episode Passage on the Lady Anne which is a metaphor for the changing of the guard to the Americans.
I do have a strong fondness for the Empire’s culture, intellectual honesty, fair play and aesthetic. I would swap Zion, for the British decency, transparency and even overt racism than for the underhanded lies, brainwashing, debauchery and de facto racial supremacy crusade of Zion.
My own experience of London is that the empire still exists, but you have to look very very hard. I decided to volunteer as a scout master a few years ago and interviewed with one of the old guard. He was very old and desperate to find a replacement. Unfortunately I had to leave London. But when he described his youth, I just kept thinking: We will make Britain great again someday. I felt very sorry for him. His worldview would be considered very naive today. But in fact, the most acute analysis portends that that was a better world for all.
I would have taken the role very seriously.
I’m not even British or American. Men like that deserve more than the £65 per week pensions.
King Leopold contributed more to Civilization than the 65 pound pensioners who killed other Europeans.
Pumpkin This is a wonderful idea. This reminds me of Charles Murray ‘s book Human Achievement, also. Have you read it?
Anyhow I’m gonna think about this post. It’s deep stuff.
I own that book and started reading it. I didn’t love it because his method for comparing influence was confined to specific categories. He couldn’t for example compare the influence of Einstein with Shakespeare because they were in different domains, but to me, comparing people in different domains is the most interesting part.
So you compare a religious pastor in your community with the local town quarterback how?
By getting feedback from you and everyone else here. For example if everyone here were to make a list of the World’s 100 most influential people, virtually all the lists (if they were sincerely created) would include a lot of the same names. Considering there are 7.4 billion people on the planet, that’s an astonishing coincidence, and speaks to the objectively measurable nature of influence. Further, if I were to ask everyone here to rank all the nominees I’ve listed by influence, there would be a high correlation between most of your rankings, showing this is not a purely subjective pursuit.
I think my commenters are especially useful for making a list like this because the high IQ combined with high psychiatric dysfunction gives rise to a lot of creativity and free thinking here.
Fine. But how many people here are going to mention Oprah?
Hopefully some of my readers will be intelligent enough to recognize how supremely influential Oprah is. It’s hard not be influential when you’re the most worshipped woman in the World’s most powerful country and on top of that, you’ve got the #1 talk show for a quarter century, and on top of that, you’re so different from any media figure before you, both in how you look and how you behave (crying on TV, sharing intimate secrets with viewers), and on top of that, you’re exploring taboo topics such as addiction, sexual abuse, fat, infidelity, gays, and on top of that, you’re using your enormous reach to affect people’s reading habits, spiritual views, entertainment choices (Dr. Phil) and politics (endorsing Obama in his razor close race against Hillary and netting him one million extra votes, thus changing the trajectory of history)
Anyhow I’m gonna think about this post. It’s deep stuff.
It would be great if everyone here could make their own list of the most influential LIVING humans. If you don’t have time to make a top 100 list, at least make a top 10 list, ranked in order of influence.
Averaging all the lists together from all my knowledgeable and insightful commenters would make for an excellent list indeed.
G-man, please create a list of who you consider the top 30 living people who have most influenced the World. If enough people create a top 30 list, at least 100 names will be mentioned, and whoever gets mentioned on the most top 30 lists, will rank highest on the aggregate top 100 list, I’ll be publishing. The more perspectives I get, the more accurate my aggregate list will be, and your incredible general knowledge is especially useful for this task, and as a black HBDer, you bring an especially rich perspective.
What is the racial composition of this list ?
This is just the nominees I’m considering for the list so too early to say.
Cocorio, please create a list of who you consider the top 30 living people who have most influenced the World. If enough people create a top 30 list, at least 100 names will be mentioned, and whoever gets mentioned on the most top 30 lists, will rank highest on the aggregate top 100 list, I’ll be publishing. The more perspectives I get, the more accurate my aggregate list will be.
I suspect that Murdoch has an emotional attachment to the jews because he must have been called a jew in grade school on account of how he looks.
The two types of jew noses are the hook nose (ashkenazi) and the mushroom nose (sephardic)
He definitely has the mushroom nose.
He just doesn’t look white.
whether or not he’s a jew is irrelevant as he serves the jew and that’s all that matters.
As I said above Jimmy, not quite. Its quite murky. Murdoch is worth studying by himself. Arguably more influential than the vast majority of people on this list.
I doubt he’s pulling the strings.
He seems to do what will make him the most money and jews have a lot of money.
His media interests in China are communist for example.
Hes pulling them. From what I’ve read politicians are scared of him. Especially in Britain.
My hunch is that he’s a closet Trump supporter. Or at least gives his newspapers and tv media wide discretion to support nationalist causes. Which is the same thing although he can argue plausibly otherwise.
hymie vs pill in a crazy-off. place your bets. odds on hymie 2-1.
everyone looks jewish over age 80.
a younger murdoch:

Still looks jewish, look at the nose.
i have relatives who are in their 80s and none of them looks jewish.
Perhaps its a pedigree thing.
Its a verbal lean I think. I’ve commented before how different types of cognitive type have different physiognomy.
Yeats is 100% Anglo Irish.
But he looks Jewish due to his lopsided verbal cognitive profile.
but you’re a hybrid from a school which is 75% non-white.
jews can’t imitate anti-semites philo-s-emite.
stop trying.
hymie and pill are so obviously jewish it’s sad.
sad!
or they’re both peepee. more likely.
sad!
“hymie and pill are so obviously jewish it’s sad.”
This seems to be the most likely explanation.
keep quite yiddo.
hymie thinks that Xi Jinping is a crypto jew.
niall ferguson will soon be claiming he’s part jewish. just like hitch. and hymie will believe him.
sad!
As much as I love John Carpenter, it was Hitchcock who invented the killer with a bodycount.
Psycho = the original slasher.
True, which is why i said MODERN slasher film (though even that’s debateable) but if Hitchcock were still alive, he would definitely make my list.
Psycho ain’t modern and Halloween is?
If your definition is “Shot in colour”…
But I always gotta represent the OG, my all time favourite director.
When film scholars talk about the modern slasher film (or stalker film), they’re usually talking about films that include cinematic devises and narrative structures that largely originated with Halloween:
https://pumpkinperson.com/2014/05/02/whats-the-definition-of-a-slasher-film/comment-page-1/
Psycho’s not a modern slasher because it doesn’t start with a murder, there’s no commemorative event, there’s no heroine who discovers the dead bodies, subdues the killer multiple times and escapes, only to have the killer still out there, there’s no POV shots, etc.
Pumpkins performance in Psycho is still talked about to this day.
Nah, I’m not convinced that the techniques themselves amount to a “Slasher”.
I’d agree with you that the structure of Halloween is oft repeated, but for me what constitutes a slasher is the genre-namesake, the killer with a bodycount.
I think that any structure you use thereafter is up to you so long as it’s conducive to causing the audience to go through emotions.
But there’s no doubt that Halloween’s tropes are repeated over and over and over again.
Psycho’s definitely a slasher, but Halloween largely started a certain sub-type of slasher that was extremely popular in the 1980s and later spoofed in the late 1990s (i.e. Scream movies)
Gypsy, can you create a list of who you consider the top 30 living people who have most influenced the World. If enough people create a top 30 list, at least 100 names will be mentioned, and whoever gets mentioned on the most top 30 lists, will rank highest on the aggregate top 100 list I will publish on my blog.
My Criteria is “Most influential to the current Overton Window”
To meet that Criteria, you either need to create or take advantage of a means of influence.
I’ll think over a top 30 list according to that criteria.
I’ll think over a top 30 list according to that criteria.
Fantastic!
…those criteria…
OR
…that criterion…
chav!
Autism
Btw gypsy, Mug of Pee, Bruno, Kitty and Mikey, I’m going to be posting the results of the reader nominations, so last chance to submit your 30 nominees for the living people who have most influenced history
I don’t care about celeb bullshit. But put mytwo votes for Ahnold and Richard Dawkins.
1 vote each for Arnold and Dawkins. I guess Arnold was kind of influential in that he popularized body building.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is also pretty damn influential.
1 vote for Neil DeGrasse Tyson
Dawkins and Tyson are tedious people that have no influence on the wider public.
Tyson is affirmative action all the way.
“Dawkins and Tyson are tedious people that have no influence on the wider public.”
Dawkins is this generations ‘pitbull’ for Darwin and deGrasse Tyson brings kids to science. Though Tyson is much more a popularizer of science, he clearly understands the concepts he speaks about. If you deny that then you’re hugely biased.
” Dawkins is this generations ‘pitbull’ for Darwin ”
that’s exactly what the media call him.
we’ve finally found RRs blind spot.
Everything Dawkins has said has been said before by those before him.
He just regurgitates everything he reads.
He has no original thoughts whatsoever.
a second division soccer player has more influence than Dawkins.
as for Tyson, he’s affirmative action all the way.
He got into Harvard with AA but didn’t get the grades needed to get into grad school at a top college so he went to the U of Texas at Austin.
If a black guy cant get into a top grad program with AA then his grades at Harvard must have been really bad.
Think logically RR
and don’t be impressed with a physics major because its mostly memorization.
As for the math , all you have to take is
– Calculus I
– Calculus II
– Calculus III
– Linear Algebra
– Abstract Algebra
– Differential Equations
– Intermediate Analysis
– Vector Analysis
of them the only tricky one is diff equations .
And remember that Hsu wrote a paper proving that anyone in the 85th percentile (115 IQ) can get Mostly A’s in Physics and math (3.5 GPA) which guarantees them admittance to at least one Grad school.
I started off as a physics major at UCB but switched to CS for better job prospects and it was the most lucrative decision i have ever made.
It is much harder to get into a top college then it is to get a Phd in physics.
Anyone who doubts that doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
never be impressed with grad school papers.
Grad school is for losers who have a point to prove.
The only exception is B-School at a top school.
B-School guys make bank
Starting salary for Harvard B-School grads going into finance in 2015 was $146,993.
i took me 5 years after graduation to make $130k
anyway, my point is that Tyson is affirmative action all the way .
The only high quality blacks are the ones in Africa or recent African immigrants.
American blacks were selected for strength which is a proxy for stupidity.
I have tons of original thoughts. A lot are in my field. But that had nothing to do with this.
How many books by Richard Dawkins have you actually read? Have you read his opus The Selfish Gene? Oh no, wait. He builded on that theory off of another biologist. Damn, you’re right. Dawkins doesn’t deserve a lock of fame for what he’s done in his career.
“American blacks were selected for strength which is a proxy for stupidity.”
Didn’t seem to do them well.
And that’s is no evidence for that. I’m happy to be proven wrong though.
Tyson understands what he talks about. Be writes books on astrophysics.
Do you have a link to the Hsu paper?
And we’re talking about influence. Are you really saying that Tyson isn’t influential? He’s one of theost influential people alive today. He gets kids into science. I don’t know your thoughts on that, but I love it.
Jimmy, I’ll be more than happy to explain to you my theory of human metabolism if you’d like to hear it.
“……. Dawkins doesn’t deserve a lock of fame for what he’s done in his career. ”
and what exactly has he done? write a pop sci book? dumb down other peoples ideas and market them to the idiots ?
What has the man actually achieved other than becoming a poor man’s Christopher Hitchens?
The selfish gene didn’t need to be written because most of it is obvious to anyone with a basic level of social intelligence.
so what exactly has he achieved?
The only influence he has is on self-hating whites who are so morally inferior that they don’t have the guts to condemn Judaism the most vicious ideology the world has ever seen.
on Tyson
” He’s one of the most influential people alive today. ”
what?!?!
He only has influence on self hating whites who are so desperate to find a black who isn’t a hood rat.
once they get their fix , they move on .
” Tyson understands what he talks about. ”
anyone with a 110 IQ can understand physics.
Just think of all the more competent whites with genius level intelligence who were rejected by the PhD program at Columbia to make way for him.
The only reason he has so much public exposure is because he is black.
He would never have gotten 1% of the media exposure he has had if he were white.
” Do you have a link to the Hsu paper? ”
Click to access 1011.0663.pdf
600 on SAT-M is 74th percentile of SAT takers
Click to access SATPercentileRanks.pdf
74th percentile roughly 110 IQ
I dont know what the mean IQ of SAT takers is . I hear its 105 so 74th percentile of a group with mean 105 is around 115.
I doubt its as high as 115 as most people who plan on majoring in science subjects come from families which spend a lot on tutoring, so that 600 SAT-M is not a reflection of their innate ability.
If i had to guess i would say 110 IQ + strong work ethic could get an A in any course.
cs majors have the lowest SAT scores.
don’t be impressed with them either.
Hsu’s paper doesn’t say anything about all As. He only says at least a 3.5 upper division GPA at universities comparable to University of Oregon.
Actually I’ve decided the only systematic way to do this is for everyone to create a list of the top 30 living people who have most influenced the World. If enough people create a top 30 list, at least 100 names will be mentioned, and whoever gets mentioned on the most top 30 lists, will rank highest on the aggregate top 100 list. So please create a list RR.
Mugabe’s mad at me because I rejected him.
Sad!
deal is like someone who’s fired and then says, “i quit!”
sad!
Mugabe is someone who kicked the bucket of spit in his room and said: Save Me.
what?
Mugabe doesn’t know how to flirt.
Sad!
i told you…
gimme your email and i’ll send you pictures of my junk.
You’re so disgusting.
i told you…
gimme your email and i’ll send you pictures of my junk.
i guess you don’t like sex…or i’m too much for 5’2″.
sad!
Mugabe’s pick up line: “my dick is too big for you”
lol
you can just imagine this guy at a bar
Mugabe: [stares at a women ]
Laura : hi whats your name?
Mugabe: my dick is too big for you
Laura : what?!
Mugabe: too big
Laura : excuse me?!
Mugabe: Pain
Laura: Get away from me you freak .
That is the story of his life.
Steinberger has no game.
no. my pick up line is “how much?”
deal isn’t white trash yet she posts pics of taylor swift and britney spears, uses tanner, paints her eyebrows, wears heels…is part injun.
sad!
talk about sexy. am i right?

Deal with it!, please create a list of who you consider the top 30 living people who have most influenced the World. If enough people create a top 30 list, at least 100 names will be mentioned, and whoever gets mentioned on the most top 30 lists, will rank highest on the aggregate top 100 list, I’ll be publishing. The more perspectives I get, the more accurate my aggregate list will be, and as an highly educated and socially intelligent part-Native American, you bring a unique perspective.
sad! ^^^
I guess someone’s trying to get hired at TMZ…
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_gf8ge0ly
afro proving his classy-ness again.
sad!
Lol, TMZ is the greatest source for small talk material. But my point was that TMZ’s headlines were incredibly similar to peepee’s blog and comment section.
Look:
-“Cash me ousside”: the Trump connection.
-Kanye West vs. Kylie Jenner: business war
-Oprah’s gettin’ tipsy
-Justin Trudeau: bubble butt
-NFL star QB: girls should be silent!
-“Family matters” star: horrific abuse claims
-Why no one likes Sean Kingston
-Teyana Taylor works up a sweat
-Atlanta rapper: the shocking shooting video
-“housewives of ATL” war
-Tim’s rejects
-Janelle Monae: Hollywood is awake.
My opinion of TMZ is not negative, my most influential persons list is going to have TMZ tones. What I’m making fun of is that peepee is seriously drifting away from HBD in a classical sense.
TMZ has a very overt latent jew homosexuality element.
Much like GQ or Vice these days.
I posted a comment on a video there and called them all latent homosexual nepotist hires and got tons of likes.
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Fuck off. I won’t be published properly.
Afro, please create a list of who you consider the top 30 living people who have most influenced the World. If enough people create a top 30 list, at least 100 names will be mentioned, and whoever gets mentioned on the most top 30 lists, will rank highest on the aggregate top 100 list, I’ll be publishing. The more perspectives I get, the more accurate my aggregate list will be, and you bring a perspective very different from most people here.
This is an extremely tough thing to do. I don’t feel like I have enough authority to determine who’s really influential. And I’m too electric tonight.
Just try your best. No one person’s list will be authoritative because they each reflect our own perspective, ignorance and bias. The authority comes from the collective wisdom of aggregating everyone’s lists together into the official list.
Yes, my list is gonna be extremely biased and it will look weird to you. I’m actually gonna do it as I feel, not trying to look for strong evidences of influence. So be ready for something strange influenced by my age, my lifestyle and my culture. As a warning I can tell you that the Kardashian are on the list.
That sounds fascinating.
LOL, dunno if you’re being sarcastic but it does sound fascinating to compare our universes like that.
By fascinating, Peepee means retarded.
I’m going to the confessional tomorrow. I will probably have a lot to say about sin and virtue. I’m currently reading my Vulgate although I feel so strange that I can barely think. Questions are forbidden in my church because there are only answers there. But I’d definitely like to guest post to analyze HBD through a Christian perspective.
But I’d definitely like to guest post to analyze HBD through a Christian perspective.
Sounds good. If you write GUEST POST above your comment, I will leave it in moderation but then publish it as an article.
I strictly follow the Tridentine tradition of Catholicism, I’m not really supposed to translate the Vulgate so I’ll need to post some stuff in Latin. What I’ll write, if I write, will possibly differ from mainstream Catholicism and Protestant doctrines.
most influential is way too broad. should be most influential by category.
investments: KKR (the first K is dead), jack bogle, thomas peterffy and charles schwab, james simons, buffett, kiyoshi ito is dead.
politics: will be trump.
high tech: Seiuemon Inaba, bill gates, larry ellison.
insurance: buffett.
etc.
There are already enough lists that do it by category. I want a list of who are the most influential period. Please create a list of who you consider the top 30 living people who have most influenced the World. If enough people create a top 30 list, at least 100 names will be mentioned, and whoever gets mentioned on the most top 30 lists, will rank highest on the aggregate top 100 list.
This man is the most influential political scientist of all time by citations.
He’s autistic.
This reinforces Robert’s theory that the select people with the social intelligence of down syndrome kids to be professors in topics involving dangerous ideas.
Or my own view that they select anyone that barfs out pro jew junk.
i never said that pill.
what i said was…
it takes a special kind of stupidity to make it in america. not always. but almost always.
as peepee might put it…
if you see the flaws early enough there will be no later. you’ll simply stop trying to move up the ladder. a bigger piece of a rotten pie is not better.
or as my dad (harvard ’66) said…
your teachers said you were a brilliant under-acheiver. idiots! if you’re smart you know the schools are fucked.
it’s funny how one finds that by himself he has come to conclusions which others have also come to.
morris berman (huge jew) and mlk agree with me.
identity politics is a distraction from real politics. the democrat party is the great fakir. while trump says at CPAC that the GOP will be the party of the worker thenceforth.
the GOP establishment is dead. so is the dem establishment, but the dem establishment doesn’t know it. they’re zombies.
sad!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O7lq9znCWgg%3Fstart%3D1876%26end%3D2079
Yes I recall that exposition now. A kind of Orwellian doublethink.
Maybe we can classify academics into 5 groups:
1. True believers
2. Social retards/useful idiots
3. Paid propagandists/hypnotists
4. Icarus high flyers who got to a certain point where they realised they had to cave in and learn to adopt the establishment line
5. Genuine academics but in non-threatening academic areas.
retail: jeff bezos, the albrecht brothers, sam walton is dead.
transportation: the guys who came up with containerization.
manufacturing: ?
construction: ?
mining: ?
farming, forestry, and fishing: ?
alcohol: Jorge Paulo Lemann has had no influence on the techne. Kevin Verstrepen?
mj: bruce linton, a canuckistani.
etc.
my bad. both of the albrecht bros are dead.
but in general the most influential people are 95% technical/science people. you just don’t hear about them.
or rather the most influential groups of people as science and techne are collective endeavors.
fame and influence are two different things.
most influential philosophers alive: there are none. they’re all morons.
if it were 1976 the answer would be martin heidegger.
Umberto Eco died recently. I haven’t read his work.
I haven’t read Zizek closely.
Chomsky should be on the list. He is a legitimate intelligent sophisticated guy.
David Harvey is very good as well. But he’s a geographer.
Nobody does fundamental philosophy anymore. Anyone in academia is playing scrabble and arguing about what should be in the scrabble dictionary.
Philosopher, please create a list of who you consider the top 30 living people who have most influenced the World. If enough people create a top 30 list, at least 100 names will be mentioned, and whoever gets mentioned on the most top 30 lists, will rank highest on the aggregate top 100 list.
chomsky yes. but his influence on linguistics has been malign, and he’s not a philosopher. he’s a critic of america.
critic of the world’s most influential country is influential.
He’s the best we got I’m afraid….
I think you got most of them with a few exceptions.
In no particular order
1. Evelyn Rothschild (Jew)
– Owner of The Economist which is the most elite publication on earth.
– Member of the notorious Rothschild banking family
2. David Rockefeller
– Patriarch of the notorious Rockefeller family
– Founder of the CFR and theTrilateral commission
The family is of German stock but with marriage they are getting more and more jewish by the generation.
3. Haim Saban ( Jew)
– Owner of Univision, the largest spanish language network in the US.
Ownership of Univision gives him incredible influence over the unassimilable hispanic underclass that is demographically conquering the U.S .
4. Janet Yellen (Jew)
– Chairman of the federal reserve, the worlds most powerful financial institution
5. Lloyd Blankfein (Jew)
– CEO of the notorious Goldman Sachs
6. Stephen Adler (Jew)
– CEO of Reuters the international news agency .
7. Garry Pruitt (?)
– CEO of the Associated Press (AP) the major international news agency.
8. Jeff Zucker (jew)
– CEO of CNN
9. Jeffrey Schlesinger (Jew)
– President of Warner Bros ent
10. Brad Grey (Jew)
– CEO of Paramount Pictures
11, Michael Linton (Jew)
– CEO of Sony Pictures
12. James Schamus (Jew)
– CEO of Universal Pictures
13. Bob Igor (Jew)
– CEO of Walt Disney co
Powerful position to indoctrinate children all over the world .
Some examples of Disney indoctrination :
Beauty & the beast = promotion of interracial relations
Mulan = Promotion of Transgenderism
Frozen = promotion of homosexuality .
Finance, Movies and News people have the most influence in the world IMO
We shouldn’t forget that some of the most influential people in the world are unknown Analysts at the CIA, State department, NSA ,Pentagon etc
you also need to think about crypto-Jews.
If i didn’t look into Brad Grey ,the CEO of Paramount, i would have thought that he was a weird looking white guy.
Jimmy, can you make a list of who you consider the 30 most influential humans period (regardless of race or ethnic background).
If enough people create a top 30 list, at least 100 names will be mentioned, and whoever gets mentioned on the most top 30 lists, will rank highest on the aggregate top 100 list I will publish on my blog.
A&E already did this, but it was for living and dead.
#1 gutenberg.
hymie will claim he was jewish.
No one’s ever done it just for just living people (in rank order of influence in general).
By this line of autistic thinking the guy that invented the surfboard, was the most influential person in the sport of surfing.
Or the guy that invented the football.
Or the guitar.
Its a bit obtuse but ‘technically’ correct.
I mean the guy that invented traffic lights, is pretty influential. He’s saved hundreds of thousands of lives, promoted economic growth and allowed urban sprawl….
more clickbait.
sad!
” Berg ” is Nordic
a lot of jews used it to help with the cryptoness.
the general rule is that those with germanic surnames in the US are suspect until proven otherwise, while those in Europe are legit.
PP, I think my list combined with yours has the most influential people alive that we know of.
PP, I think my list combined with yours has the most influential people alive that we know of.
Yes but I need to narrow it down and rank everyone, so who would you say are the top 30 most influential people alive today?
even though germans are the biggest % of american whites…
hymie. how can you even do your job with all that crazy?
i have a germanic surname.
and it sounds super jewy.
i won’t explain why.
except to say it’s its prefix not its suffix. it doesn’t end in -stein. it begins with…
my surname has about 300 in the US. they may all be related. idk. they tend to be rich or super upper middle.
and super duper uber roman catholic.
like the swiss guards.
the family names originates in the canton for which switzerland is named.
buh-dum ching!
my dad looks like a famous nazi.
it’s hard to tell hymie isn’t peepee.
that’s why i said, “influential” is too ambiguous.
i go with the technical/science people even though they are usually very un-charismatic and un-famous.
Just tell me who you consider the most 30 influential people alive today.
just make water into wine.
peepee still confuses words with things.
psych major.
sad!
peepee still confuses words with things
Humour me. If there were such a thing as influence, who would the 30 most influential living people be in your opinion?
” even though germans are the biggest % of american whites”
Germans haven’t had that much effect on the normality of names because many of them anglicized their names
Müller => Miller
” i have a germanic surname.”
first you said you were spanish then Irish then from Liverpool and now German
“and it sounds super jewy. ”
explains a lot.
” i won’t explain why .except to say it’s its prefix not its suffix. it doesn’t end in -stein. it begins with…”
Steinbeck, Steinberg, Steinberger, Steinbok, Steinem, Steiner, Steinfort, Steinhart, Steinmetz, Steinway
Whiny has a Yid surname and he still couldn’t get into a top 20 College.
that’s like someone failing to score in a brothel
Hahahaha.
To be fair, if I turned up to a Harvard admissions interview dressed like Shylock with the curls and preacher hat, I would have to set someone on fire to not get in.
“To be fair, if I turned up to a Harvard admissions interview dressed like Shylock with the curls and preacher hat, I would have to set someone on fire to not get in.”
did i…
forget to mention that…
i’m an orthodox jew?
my surname is the opposite of yiddish sounding hymie.
except to pushy stupid retards like yourself.
now hymie thinks schwartz-en-egger sounds jewish.
this is the kind of retarded riffraff that gets into UCB.
only in america.
Jimmy is like a more advanced version of me.
I don’t mean that in a good way necessarily.
I mean if I shoot from the hip, Jimmy shoots with the holster on.
alexander fleming didn’t brainwash people into getting better hymie.
antibiotics work…for real…it’s not just in your head.
what does “influential” mean?
peepee needs to rephrase her question in less ambiguous terms.
Influence is hard to define, but I would say, the more different history would have been had you never lived, the more influential you are. Perhaps someone can produce a better definition. Of course that’s unquantifiable, but there’s broad agreement when historians are asked to rank people by influence, so it’s not totally pseudoscience.
because historians are scientists?
yawn!
historians will always grossly exaggerate the influence of politicians, intellectuals, and other famous people.
such people have the attention of the masses, but they don’t have their future.
get it?
if so and so hadn’t lived maybe someone else would’ve done something similar. how could you know?
peepee is still in thrall to the individualist ideology, the “great man” theory of histoty. sad!
even the exemplar of the solitary sicientist, einstein, knew the individualist ideology was bullshit.
Every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving.
as i’ve said so many times, history is just People for people who can read without moving their lips.
who was a better ball player carl yastrzemski or bob gibson?
it’s apples and oranges.
it’s such an elite publication it was available in my residence hall at uni.
They must have been trying to inspire you and your peers to move up in life.
who’s they?
hymie’s college admin parents?
sad!
My top 30:
1-20) the neocons
21-25) the dancing Israelis
26) Robert Rubin
27) Hu Jintao
28) Phil Donahue
29) Oprah
30) Ricki Lake
Very good choices.
I take it you too think 9-11 was a Mossad/Saud job?
Philosopher, I want to see your top 30 list before I answer your question.
I’ve only ever fucked two Mossad agents so I’m not a huge authority on the subject.
pill is peepee’s most convincing puppet. closest to a “real boy”.
anime kitty is peepee.
no mugabe no pumpkinperson.com
sad!
misdreavus was SO right.
The last 3 choices I don’t agree with Robert. I’ll do a list on the commute tomorrow perhaps.
I like marsh and phil.
Mugabe thinks I am pumpkin because of how nice I am.
Pumpkin is a nice person just like me. (happy face emoticon)
Mugabe thinks he is irresistibly sexy. 🙂
anime kitty just came out as peepee. pill and hymie came out a while back.
still waiting on afro.
adorable 🙂
oops.
i had another miscarriage.
So what you think about 911 marsh?
berman echoes me again:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=emZS4lwgTZ8%3Fstart%3D420%26end%3D481
btw…
i too am an agnostic of a sort regarding economic policy.
whatever works. that’s my credo.
i think communism worked for the former russian empire.
but state capitalism has worked for singapore, s korea, taiwan, and the prc.
milton friedman, rand capitalism works for NONE. friedman and rand should be regarded as jewish comedians…at best.
Denmark/Scandinavia are the optimum eco models but you have to have a people genetically inclined to have high empathy/trust and civic mindedness.
East asians actually have the latter, but not the former.
South asians seem to have neither, but high IQ. Although I could be wrong.
There are parts of latin america, with more heavier white settlement where it works.
Canada/Oz/NZ are similar enough to Scandinavia, as is most of central Europe.
Let’s go into the belly of the beast shall we?
Jeremy Epstein should be on the list.
The Comet Pizza people.Specifically the listed owner, the top DoJ anti child trafficking official (ironic, not).
The Franklin Nebraska ring leaders.
The Mossad Director.
I think Alan Dulles and his boss David Rockefeller, C Douglas Dillon and John McCloy, Vanderbilt and co. would have been delighted to have used paedophile blackmail ops on enemies.
How did the 400 give away the farm?
If you look at the family trees of the 400 there’s a lot of intermarriage with jews. So that was one reason. Another is Zion had a lot of wealth from the old country – Europe – to be put to use. A third maybe simply higher IQs. A fourth is undoubtedly using white peoples high empathy and fair play against them e.g. Martin Luther King and finally a fifth is the rise of finance. Roosevelt nuking finance in the 30s staved off Zion for a generation.
Have I cracked it?
I’ll study this more and more over the coming months like the academic historians are paid not to.
and again:
that’s a way of NOT doing politics….waste your energy on trivia…
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O7lq9znCWgg%3Fstart%3D503%26end%3D884
Very good but I think he might be wrong about identity politics.
Actually all politics is tribal. As lenin said, who/whom?
In Lenin’s case, the jews should be on top.
I don’t think Berman is being obtuse in relation to what was the meta factor driving the left into this tail chasing. I think he genuinely believes it was just an ideological cul de sac. Fine.
What Berman might not realise is that to effect change in America economically, identity politics is necessary. White identity politics. And specifically, outing the neoconservatives.
One cannot achieve Denmark with Zion as overlord pitboss. It just can’t happen. Nor with a significant underclass from Kinshasa and Syria.
I believe identity politics is important. Very important in fact because genetics trumps economics. But, obviously not in the way we are encouraged to think in our textbooks and Hollywood films.
I can’t list 30 persons right now but here is a draft. I’d include:
-Heads of economically powerful/evil/militaristic countries who enjoy significant domestic approval
-Religious authorities, including Islamist leaders
-Heads of leading financial institutions including the world bank and the IMF
-Pop stars with huge advertising power and social media followership
-Grey eminence trend makers, including media moguls, fashion designers, music producers, discreet socialites.
Oh and of course, the CEOs of the largest companies by workforce.
The people you mention all have power, but to be truly influential, you have to use your power to cause important events, trends or developments that wouldn’t have happened had you never been born.
It’s speculative, no one knows if something wouldn’t have taken place if it’s most instrumental protagonist didn’t exist. Would Nazi Germany have existed without Hitler ? Probably, Hitler invented nothing, maybe another charismatic freak would have emerged a couple of years later… We don’t know, the 30s were an era where racism and totalitarian ideologies were hype for a varied number of reasons that aren’t just about the men who made history.
Making a list like this is as much art as science. The key is if you can make a good argument that someone is influential and there is broad agreement among historians over who was influential.
I think a good indicator of influence is the number of conspiracy theories that someone generates.
Also, we could easily think that Putin is more influential than Gorbachev. But it’s obvious that Gorbachev made more radical changes in geopolitics by having the USSR losing the cold war than Putin’s bullying of neighbor countries.
I actually don’t know if pop stars and most media moguls are relevant on a worldwide scale. They are in the west, but the masses of Africa and Asia are not really affected by their influence. Even the global spread western standards of beauty is somewhat overstated, and it’s not caused by exposure to western pop culture in my opinion.
The Silicon Valley is not that big either. Most people in the world can’t afford high technology and the firms aren’t big employers. I’d say Foxconn has much more actual impact than Apple.
Well very few people affect the entire World. But if you affect a big chunk of humanity, especially an important chunk, then you are relatively influential.
Last word before I sleep, must say something about retarded Russian idolatry.
Most lame whites who venerate Russia would be disappointed of what Russia really is. It is a multicultural and multiracial state, much more tolerant than most people imagine. Russian youth is westernized for the larger part, TMZ addicted like Western Europeans.
Russia’s economy is not strong enough to fit its political ambitions. It’s just a big corrupt oil and gas emirate. Very few of these lame white Russia admirer would never move there, not even on the Black Sea’s Riviera or now Crimea.
Well I can’t sleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NESWrTFk0T8
Russia is the ultimate country for epic fun.
thanks for your email afro.
you’ve got junk mail!
More hard truths about Russia:
Negro Magic in Moscow
Crime rate off the chart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Russia
More nonsense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meWqv9p9EsA
Well, I’ll actually stop dissing. I do approve all this low IQ badassry, and there are many Russians that I like and that I think like me too.
“lame whites who venerate russia”
HAHAHAHA!! i have met an sufficient amount of those people, as i live in europe, truly discussting people. I once met a fat russian fascist, HAHAHA!!!
Why russia? its so white trash even western europeans considered them inferior for most of history!
I dont hate russia though, they are unfortunate and i wish them well as i dont want their distress to cause nuclear war. They are also sexy haha.
All i said was true though.
sad!
isreal is about as rich as nuevo leon, mexico.
and without YUGE US subsidies.
Ahah, you believe Maquiladoras ain’t disguised US subsidies ?
peepee and her girlfriend.

sad!
https://illuminaticatblog.wordpress.com/2017/02/26/beta-males/
The Intelligent Brain
Course No. 1642
Professor Richard J. Haier, Ph.D.
University of California, Irvine
http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/the-intelligent-brain.html?cid=1642&ai=83149
THANK GOD. As a black magic negro the american zionist dream is confirmed.
We got our aa oscars!! Baby!
But we didbt get best actor. Because racism.
#Oscarsnotblackenough
Someone needs to raise transracialissues in a biopic of my life as a magic negro.
Alright, here is my list. The numbering is not indicative of a specific rank.
1- The Kardashians including Kanye West
2- R&B divas
3- Drake
4- Pharrell Williams
5- George Zimmermann
6- The Populists
7- The European Union’s personnel
8- The CEOs of companies with large workforce or interests in raw materials extraction
9- The Pop divas
10- David Guetta
11- The Silicon Valley
12- The heads big media in
13- Past and present leaders of China, Iran, North Korea, France, the UK, Germany, Turkey, Italy, Israel, The US, Brazil, Mexico, Spain, Russia, India, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, South Africa, Colombia, Canada, Australia, Indonesia and Pakistan
14- Prince Harry, Kate and Pippa Middleton
15- The founders of high traffic alternative media websites
16- The Pope
17- The Islamists
18- The UN’s personnel, namely the heads of the World Bank and the IMF
19- Cristiano Ronaldo, David Beckham and Djibril Cissé
20- The heads of big banks
21- Whomever created TMZ, worldstar hip hop and urban dictionary
22- Latin America’s drug cartels
23- Top scientists in engineering, weaponry, medicine, pharmaceutics and ICT
24- Big names in the fashion industry
25- The Dalai Lama
26- Every living Nobel Prize recipient in Economics and peace
27- Big names in advertisement, communication, manipulation
28- Big law
29- Big lobbying
30- Mar$ha
Replace Mar$ha by the administrators of elite colleges.
Forgot the leaders of Japan and South Korea.
I was looking for the names of 30 specific INDIVIDUALS but thanks anyway for the broad outline.
I couldn’t specify some individuals because many of the most influential persons are interchangeable if we analyze their background deeply. Others are very influential as an aggregate although their individual power is not that impressive, for instance the heads of elite colleges help shaping the mind of the world’s elites but it’s the aggregate of all the institutions across the world that is relevant, not just Harvard or Princeton.
Anyway, when I get more time, I’m gonna explain why I included people whose presence on the list might not look so obviously justifiable. For instance Zimmermann is here because he assassinated Trayvon Martin and had the US entering a new era of racial violence. The Kardashians are here for plenty of reasons.
“For instance Zimmermann is here because he assassinated Trayvon Martin”
No he didn’t.
Martin was bashing Zimmerman’s head on the ground. If he hadn’t of used his firearm he’d be dead. Stand your ground is a good law, all states should have it.
Yeah jew hate hoax. Same as the im chokinh guy.
“No he didn’t.”
Yeah he did. He followed him for more than two blocks even after police had told him to not pursue him.
All Martin had on him was some lean, truth be told I’d be trying to fight some guy following me for no reason.
“even after police had told him to not pursue him”
911 operators are not police.
“All Martin had on him was some lean, truth be told I’d be trying to fight some guy following me for no reason.”
… Which is why he had the Arizona Iced tea and skittles..
Never mind that he was a criminal and he was breaking into houses in that area as well.
Zimmerman had every right to protect his life.
Video doesn’t work.
Lol. I never saw that episode. Is it new?
Why don’t we hear about the black cop who killed a white kid? There was something like that occured right around the same time and no national media attention.
And 911 operators are not police. A lot of people say that he went around dp olive orders but 911 operators are not police.
Try this one, it’s quite hilarious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRfIz-dHV6A
“Which is why he had the Arizona Iced tea and skittles..”
Ingredients for lean. He was going to get high.
“Never mind that he was a criminal and he was breaking into houses in that area as well.”
He was caught with burglary tools in school. It doesn’t matter though, you don’t take justice into your own hands. Not to say trayvon was actually a good person or anything, but honestly if a grown man is attacking you, Using a brick is a predictable reaction, I would’ve felt very uncomfortable knowing someone was just following me.
“Zimmerman had every right to protect his life.”
You’re not wrong, but not really right either.
The Kardashians including Kanye West
-Brought thickness back
-Made plastic surgery cool
-Created a crossover between urban and high fashion
-Ended to abolish the interracial dating and friendship taboo, kinda made it hype actually
-Carried talentless fame to an unprecedented level
-Used the social media like nobody else
-Caitlyn Jenner…
-I’m under the impression that many girls talk like the Kardashian like “totallyyyyyy” (irritating vocal fry) or saying douche/douchebag wich weren’t that popular before they became Khloé K’s favorite words.
R&B divas
-Have ingrained feminism
-Have been an alternative to the northern European beauty standards, their styles being embraced by women of all races
Drake
-The Black Canadian Jew, ex-DeGrassi star who became street credible, I mean, WTF ?
Pharrell Williams
Veteran producer, stylist, artist, blurred the lines between urban and mainstream in fashion and music. Ultimate socialite, inspired Louis Vuitton.
George Zimmermann
-Assassinated Trayvon Martin, destroyed the colorblind illusion of the Obama era, brought race-relations to civil rights era level, indirectly birthed BLM.
The Populists
Trump, Le Pen, Farrage, Bepe Grillo, Palin, Orban… Made fascism hype again, set the trends in public debates.
The European Union’s personnel
-Hard to point to a single person but the European Union’s machine is probably one of the most important geopolitical innovation in the 20th century.
-Caused an unprecedented era of peace and prosperity in Europe which became the world’s number one economy again.
-Changed the way Europeans work, trade, travel and study
-Favored a France-Germany and to a lesser extant Italy axis able to have a geopolitical positioning different from the anglosphere
-As the world’s top trading space, the European commercial norms have prevailed over globalization
-The EU’s eastward expansion has caused the rise of Russia’s militarism and chauvinism
-Well the list could be longer
The CEOs of companies with large workforce or interests in raw materials extraction
-Companies that employ a huge workforce provide means of subsistence to such a number of people that they are vital to the very stability of societies. They are leaders in inventing new forms of labor
-Raw material companies have the ability to corrupt developing world governments, they back the strategic interests of powerful nations
-For these reasons, such companies often deal with governments as equal
Pop stars
Shape ideals, tastes, trends…
David Guetta
Was the first to successfully Export continental European club music in the US. Paved the way for Swedish House Mafia, Avicii, Calvin Harris… Tomorrowland festival came to the US and the electro movement as a whole went big in the US.
afro has just set black people back 100 years.
where’s jerry lewis?
“where’s jerry lewis?”
In you’re mom’s ass #highclass
The Silicon Valley
-Revolutionized information and communication
The heads of big media
-shape mainstream public opinions
-have professional journalists who can spread or hide true information
Past and present leaders of China, Iran, North Korea, France, the UK, Germany, Turkey, Italy, Israel, The US, Brazil, Mexico, Spain, Russia, India, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, Syria, Nigeria, South Africa, Colombia, Canada, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Bangladesh, Ethiopia, The Philippines, Switzerland, Vietnam, Argentina, Thailand, Indonesia and Pakistan.
-Controlling much of the world’s population, armed forces, natural resources, manufacturing and services, their successes and failures are the driving force of history.
Prince Harry, Kate and Pippa Middleton
-Brought the aristocracy to the 21st century
The founders of high traffic alternative media websites
-Challenged the mainstream media and official discources
-Gave a tribune to marginal theories
The Pope
-Presides over the world’s largest and most powerful spiritual community, with rising influence in the US, Asia and Africa
-Used the most powerful humanitarian network to deal with Europe’s refugee crisis
-Did a lot for inter-faith understanding
-Catholic schools are arguably the largest network of private institutions of educational excellence, hence shaping the minds of a large part of the global elite
-The World Youth Days bring together millions of young people. The ones I attended were Krakow 2016 (3,000,000) Madrid 2011 (2,000,000) and Cologne 2005 (1,500,000). It is an indescribable feeling.
The Islamists
-Caused death, war, desolation, exodus, paranoia, prejudice. Favored the rise of fascism in the west.
The UN’s personnel, namely the heads of the World Bank, the WTO and the IMF
-Have accompanied the globalization of economy, helped to manage global crises
Cristiano Ronaldo, David Beckham and Djibril Cissé
-Superstars of soccer, the world’s most popular sport. Introduced a new form of masculinity, made soccer glamour.
The heads of big banks
-Control the allocation of financial capital.
1-10 Steve Schwarzmann (Blackstone), Paul Singer (Elliot Management), Sheldon Adelson (Sands Corporation), Robert Rubin (Goldman Sachs), David Rubenstein (Carlyle Group), Larry Fink (Blackrock), Henry Kissinger, Evelyn Rothschild (Rothschild and Co), Michael Bloomberg (Bloomberg), Pritzker (Pritzer Realty)
The neocons themselves are merely operatives. The financial backers are the men listed above. You will all note the same public ideology – social liberal/eco conservative, anti-nationalist.
These names above are just a sample. I have no idea who has more influence with who or how ‘in on it’ they are. I know they meet up a lot at the various CFR/Davos/Bilderberg/Wall Street roundtables.
You also have ‘fallen angels’ like Michael Milken, Maurice Greenberg and Steve Cohen who are laying low a while. They do fight each other hence why I suspect Milken and Cohen got shivved on insider dealing, which I imagine a great deal of them have done, being jewish.
11. Soros (Quantum Fund)
Soros is different in that I think he’s a liberal true believer. Much like Chomsky except more savvy and more sociopathic. Tens of billions spent on donations, community organising, riots, colour revolutions in Eastern Europe and globalist NGOs.
12. Trump
President. Biggest megaphone in the country.
13-15. Zucker (CNN)/Iger((Disney)/Yentob (BBC) and the other jewish mind control agents
As above, they co-ordinate with the Street on the messaging and the framing of economic, social and geo-political issues for the lower IQ gentile masses. Note for ‘left wing’ media, they never attack the Street and turned on Obama when he shivved Israel at the UN.
16. Rupert Murdoch (Fox/Sky)
Rupert is not quite the same category as the other media barons and his outlets have supported Brexit and Trump. You will remember Fox spent a lot of time needling Trump under Roger Ailes, before Alies was cast to the dogs.
My suspicion is that Murdoch, like Trump has had to fight tooth and nail to co-exist with the high IQ berbers in a very jew dominated industry – hence the Iraq war guff and supporting Zionist patsies like Blair and Cameroon.
Murdoch is far from a populist. A very complex figure.
17. Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook)
Controls a large chunk of social media via whatsapp, facebook and instagram. Is aspergers so does whatever the above tell him, but has large discretion.
Not ‘in on it’. Just a useful idiot.
18. Page/Brin (Google)
Control the sorting of information. Notice anything vaguely nationalist is ‘primed’ by jew hit pieces in top trending stories, when these publications have no readers.
Also give data to the powerful NSA and CIA to mimic and figure out threats to the Rule of Zion via Eric Schmidt’s backdoor agreements.
Unwitting nerds like Zuckerberg, but have incredible power.
19. Putin
More of an Emmanuel Goldstein type of influence. He exists for our mandatory 5 minutes of hate segments on the newswashing. Ironically bigging him up to be the power behind the throne of nationalism really does buffer him domestically and internationally with 3rd party leaders.
20. Adam Posen/Peter Peterson
King of Zion’s economist priests in the economics realm. Fat gamma jew who’s job is to provide a rationale for the West’s asset stripping economically via the ‘venered’ Peterson Institute. The Peterson board leads back to the same Blackstone crew, the Schwarzmann and Larry Fink are a part of.
21. David Rockefeller
If you can figure out what is going on in his mind, you can figure out the entire 20th century. He’s mentioned in the Devil’s Chessboard as Dulles patron. I can’t figure out why he would hand power to the Jews, other than he got slowly outmaneouvred and socialised into the jew banking world via his Chase Manhatten operation.
I suspect he should be much higher on the list, but I can’t figure out what his role is today. He may have dementia at this point. He has had 5 heart transplants I think, a world record.
22. Arianna Huffington
Another media magnate. Huffington is massive. She leads the bleeding heart segment of the left.
23. Chuck Schumer
Israel’s senator and leader of Dembledee fake opposition party. More likely to agree with Bush than most average republicans on everything except abortion.
24. Merkel
I suspect Merkel is like Blair/Cameroon/Hollande, a patsy. She has no ideological convictions showing a sociopathic flair. Stands for nothing and happy to annhilate the german people for personal gain.
But I don’t know for sure.
25. Yellen or Stanley Fisher
I suspect Stan Fisher, ex Israel central bank governor is the real fed governor as yellen, being a woman, is unlikely to be trusted or have the ability to be a Fed chair, which is why Obama’s first choice was Larry Summers, another jew.
Fisher is a very cunning guy. Possibly an Elder of Zion (see no.1)
26. Xi jinping
He’s having a power struggle with his own Elders. Chinese politics is murky. I can’t figure out who the ruling faction is, but it seems to be the Maoist old guard – hence the capital controls, and refusal to let Jews infliltrate.
27. Nerandra Modi
Same dealio as Xi. Influences over a billion people. Modi is a hothead and not a reliable patsy for the Necromancer. Is gridlocked by indian dysfunction and bureacracy. The raj had 2000 civil servants controlling 600m under British. Under Indians, the civil service has 200x times that and is dysfunctional, even with IT systems – race matters.
28. Carlos Slim
Supported by Zion in the Lebanese civil war against nationalist arabs. Rewarded with the NYT and a monopoly in Zion’s client state of client state, Mexico. The pit boss behind open borders at the ‘newspaper of record’. Formely public richest man in the world.
29. King Abdullah (House of Saud)
Finances ‘terrorism’ and is an accomplice to Zion. Responsible for 9-11, ISIS, the theatre terrorism in Europe, the London 7-11 bus bombings, and a safe harbour for sleeper cells and extremist Black Hand type groups in the Mid East.
Also a massive donor to Hillary and European politics as well as Netanyahu’s political campaign.
30 oprah
Thank you very much Philosopher!
Still waiting on jimmy, gypsy, g-man, cat, RR, mug of pee, & a more precise list by Afro
And still waiting on JBK, Deal with it & MeLo
And corico & icareviews
Wait. A basketball player makes this list, but not BlackRock CEO Laurence Fink, who gifted the world with mortgage-backed securities?
These are just nominees. The official top 100 I’ll be publishing next week after aggregating opinions of my readers.
Who would be in your top 30 icareviews?
You’ve hit a lot of the obvious ones: Trump, Putin, Soros, Merkel, Bush, neocons, Kissinger, Wales, Zuckerberg, Clinton, Dorsey, et al.
I would add to the nominees Laurence Fink, Richard Spencer, Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, Andrew Anglin, and Matt Drudge, whose news aggregation shapes discussion on conservative talk radio on a daily basis.
Good suggestions, but who would you personally rank as the 30 most influential living humans?
I think that you’ve rounded up most of them here with your nominees. If I had to assemble thirty, I guess I’d go with (in off-the-cuff, unscientific order):
1. George Soros
2. Donald Trump
3. Sheldon Adelson
4. Haim Saban
5. Mark Zuckerberg
6. Jeff Bezos
7. Laurence Fink
8. George W. Bush
9. Benjamin Netanyahu
10. Hillary Clinton
11. Jack Dorsey
12. Warren Buffett
13. Henry Kissinger
14. Ronald Lauder
15. Steve Bannon
16. David Axelrod
17. Vladimir Putin
18. Recep Erdogan
19. Ron Paul
20. Bernie Sanders
21. Richard Spencer
22. Andrew Anglin
23. Angela Merkel
24. Viktor Orban
25. Steven Spielberg
26. Dick Cheney
27. Bashar al-Assad
28. Mikhail Gorbachev
29. Michael Chertoff
30. I’ll throw you a bone with Oprah.
Excellent thanks
Off topic, but pp buy this book. It’s changing how I think about intelligence. Already red half of the 300 page book since I bought it yesterday. I’ll explain a bit about it this afternoon.
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/books/review-intelligence-in-the-flesh-guy-claxton-yale-university-press
Afrosapiens, Melo and pp: thoughts on this? If the pictures suck I’ll retake them.
http://m.imgur.com/8A9oA3U,MydHhX5
It begins on the left page, not right.
I’m totally on board. Don’t know what else to say but indeed, intellectual agility is what matters, contrary to the savant idiocy of high functioning autism and IQ fixation.
Also, as a complete sportsfreak, I always thought that team sports were the ultimate signs of what evolution selected for in terms of body and brain synergy.
Buy that book. I’m breezing through it. I’m half way done now. He says the brain NEEDS the body. You can’t just take a brain and throw it in another body and have it do things we do.
It’s an outstanding book but a lot to take in. I’m going to reread it again so I can fully grasp it when I finish it tonight.
I also just got to a part where he talks about emotions and intelligence. He puts forth a theory of emotional intelligence that’s different from the standard. I’ll describe it when I’m done with the chapter.
Why are all propagated alternatives to IQ simply a part of IQ?
Where did this book get the idea that high IQ people are not flexible learners? In fact this whole definition is almost a mirror of pumpkin and I’s definition of intelligence, which IQ is a great measure of. It’s been proven by neurologists that higher IQ individuals are better able to ignore “useless” information. Trying to claim IQ is a one- dimensional skill is flat out retarded.
Though i am interested what he has to say about working memory.
Melo, it seems the other page I wanted to show wasn’t there. Here it is.
He says that “IQ tests commonly fail to predict the intelligence of people’s performance in real life, and where abstract reasoning could be used, it is often found to be more elegant and reliable to make use of ‘tricks of the trade’ rather than working things out from principles.”
He provided the Cici and Liker citation, we’ve discussed this briefly two months ago.
Click to access 10.1037%400096-3445.115.3.255.pdf
Here is a reply to Cici and Liker:
Click to access 10.1037%400096-3445.117.1.91.pdf
And their reply:
Click to access 10.1037%400096-3445.117.1.96.pdf
As for what you’re talking about, here is footnote 26 and the citations he provides:
This article on Laszlo Bock where he says:
“For every job, though, the No. 1 thing we look for is cognitive ability, and it’s not I.Q. It’s learning ability. It’s the ability to process on the fly. It’s the ability to pull together disparate bits of information. We assess that using structured behavioral interviews that we validate to make sure they’re predictive.”
And also cites this book:
And says in the footnote:
Stanovich has felt the need to invent a new kind of mental disorder, which he called dysrationalia: the inability to think or behave rationally (in one’s own best interests, say) despite performing perfectly well on IQ tests!
Give this article a read.
Click to access Stanovich_ThePsychologist.pdf
“In fact this whole definition is almost a mirror of pumpkin and I’s definition of intelligence, which IQ is a great measure of.”
I think this is better. It sounds like yours but the wording is much better. Neither of you have commented on this:
The ability to plan for the future, a significant function of prefrontal regions of the cortex, may be key indeed. According to the best definition I have come across so far, put forward by MIT physicist Alex Wissner-Gross, intelligence is the ability to make decisions that maximize future freedom of action—that is, decisions that keep most doors open for the future. (Herculano-Houzel, 2016: 122-123)
“Though i am interested what he has to say about working memory.”
This is the footnote:
Psychology as a discipline still suffers from two disorders we would call Polarisation Syndrome and Labitis. It likes to boil things down to two supporting theories that can’t both be right, and then devise highly artificial tests to see which one wins. But this methodology often involves lumping a lot of different factors together that may not at all work with each other, and it disallows the possibility that both theories may contain elements of truth. System One and System Two are each collections of many different processses, which often work together in mutually supportive ways.
You should also note the importance that he gives the body. Without our body what we define as intelligence wouldn’t be possible. Also,things like meditation and tai chi have cognitive benefits (do a Pubmed search, people who meditate have more white matter than people who don’t, for instance). The main thesis of the book is we don’t have bodies, we are bodies. The human body is an interconnected system of numerous parts and they all have to work correctly in order for us to achieve our goals. If either of these parts are compromised, the chance that we will achieve these goals is drastically lowered.
Our brains are important, but are bodies are just as important and, as you know, without bipedalism etc etc, we wouldn’t be so intelligent and ‘rule the world’.
Do you know anything about physiology?
“For every job, though, the No. 1 thing we look for is cognitive ability, and it’s not I.Q. It’s learning ability. It’s the ability to process on the fly. It’s the ability to pull together disparate bits of information. We assess that using structured behavioral interviews that we validate to make sure they’re predictive.”
This just playing word games. No proof these structured interviews are measuring anything predictive independent of the general intelligence factor on IQ tests
“No proof these structured interviews are measuring anything predictive independent of the general factor on IQ tests.”
Click to access Schmidt%20and%20Hunter%201998%20Validity%20and%20Utility%20Psychological%20Bulletin.pdf
The best predictor of a candidate’s success is a work sample test, followed by a test of general mental ability then a structured interview.
Read some of them from the Veteran Affairs office yourself. Those questions are similar to the types of questions he asks.
http://www.businessinsider.com/google-laszlo-bock-interview-questions-2015-4
Even then, that’s only a sliver of Claxton’s thesis.
The best predictor of a candidate’s success is a work sample test, followed by a test of general mental ability then a structured interview.
Big surprise that sampling one’s actual work better predicts their work performance than IQ alone
Hardly proof they’ve discovered a new form of intelligence
“He provided the Cici and Liker citation, we’ve discussed this briefly two months ago.”
None of those links worked.
” It’s learning ability. It’s the ability to process on the fly. It’s the ability to pull together disparate bits of information.”
All measured by IQ tests.
“Give this article a read.”
Awesome, but it doesn’t contradict IQ. Can you give a more coherent distinction between fluid and crystallized rationality? It seems the correlational discrepancies are due to crystallizes inhibitors and not anything to due with the validity of IQ tests.
“followed by a test of general mental ability”
That’s what an IQ test is….
1) put the captcha.
2) read the paper I linked that the Google ceo cites.
3) do you think IQ tests can say everything about a person? Do IQ tests test for rationality?
4) yes, I know that’s what an IQ test is. The point is, the work ability test was a better predictor of work performance than general mental ability.
The point is, the work ability test was a better predictor of work performance than general mental ability.
This is hardly surprising. If i want to know how good a pilot you’ld be, I’d learn more from putting you in a flight simulation than giving you an IQ test, because the latter measures general ability while the former measures specific talents & experience needed for the job.
However your own quotes show that work test alone still can’t even out predict IQ tests by themselves. They must be combined with them.
Peepee, don’t play the idiot please. You know exactly what mental agility is about. Remember that guy in high school who was possibly 2 years ahead of the maths program. Yet, this very same guy took an eternity to lace his shoes but you would cross his way in a corridor and be like “hey your shoes ain’t laced, son… and your bag’s open…”. Confusion on both sides, you thinking “what planet is he from ?” him thinking “wow, calm down stupid jock, you can barely spell the word library”.
Have you met this guy in Canada ? Have you had to do manual work or non manual work under stressful conditions with this guy ? If yes, you might have contemplated homicide.
I’m not saying that people must be either lame and smart or the perfectly dull Mr. Fixit. Some people have both practical and abstract skills, others have none and maybe the two are positively correlated.
Afro the math genius who sucks at lacing his shoes would do poorly on some of the visual-motor tasks on comprehensive IQ tests like the WAIS
Not saying IQ tests measure all cognitive abilities but they’re a pretty good sample and they are thought to measure a general factor (g) common to all mental abilities
“Big surprise that sampling one’s actual work better predicts their work performance than IQ alone
Hardly proof they’ve discovered a new form of intelligence”
Right. So there is a better predictor of one’s work ability: actually sampling one’s work, not just throwing them a pencil and paper test and gauging it that way.
I never said they discovered a new form of intelligence. It’s just that a structured interview and a test of work ability is better.
Overall, the 3 combinations with the highest multivariate validity and utility for job performance were GMA plus a work sample test (mean validity of .63), GMA plus an integrity test (mean validity of .65), and GMA plus a structured interview (mean validity of .63)
Daaaaamn.
Afro have you ever worked manual labor before? I did for about 7 years. It makes a man and shows who has what it takes to get shit done. I’m privy to guess people’s intelligence level by speaking to them for a bit. Let me tell you man, nerds cannot hang in manual labor work. Muh more evolved nerds.
PP have you ever worked manual labor?
“This is hardly surprising. If i want to know how good a pilot you’ld be, I’d learn more from putting you in a flight simulation than giving you an IQ test, because the latter measures general ability while the former measures specific talents & experience needed for the job.”
Would you take one with a higher IQ and did shitty on the work performance or take one with the lower IQ that did well on work performance?
“However your own quotes show that work test alone still can’t even out predict IQ tests by themselves. They must be combined with them.”
Even then, just the work ability test correlated slightly better in its own. I’ll get the quote in a bit.
Even when they’re combined, would you take low IQ and high work ability or high IQ and low work ability?
The most difficult summer job I had was waiter in a café. I’ve worked for charity on a construction site in Senegal, helped in post-earthquake Haiti the two were difficult but not as much as garçon de café which mobilizes a lot of skills with an unbearable time constraint and insufferable hierarchy and team cohesion, or rather lack thereof. If I aggregate all the paid and non paid odd jobs I had, I might have worked one year in manual or ungrateful jobs. This is not a lot but, I’m definitely not a spoiled brat.
Beside that, I took part in the organisation of events, did the Camino de Santiago pilgrimage (Normandy, France to Galicia, Spain on foot, camping at night or sleeping in very rudimentary hostels). When I was in military boarding school we would often go on survival excursions in the woods on the weekends and on the last year my class spent 2 weeks in French Guyana’s rainforest. Now I also modify and assure most of the maintenance of my 1978 VW Golf.
These things aren’t job proper but they definitely require a large set of skills that you don’t learn in books.
“put the captcha.”
What?
“Do IQ tests test for rationality?”
Yes, because mathematics is an application of rationality. It’s impossible for IQ to not measure that. What I was saying was that it seems the lack of ability in rationalizations is what the paper called a “crystallized inhibitor” It’s not reflective of actual ability.
“The point is, the work ability test was a better predictor of work performance than general mental ability.”
No shit, but that doesn’t mean the IQ test doesn’t correlate.
“What?”
A captcha should come up and you put it in and get access to the paper.
“It’s impossible for IQ to not measure that.”
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/rational-and-irrational-thought-the-thinking-that-iq-tests-miss/
The correlation between cognitive miserliness and IQ is between .2 and .3. The correlation between the ‘mindware’ (it occurs when people lack the specific knowledge, rules, and strategies to think rationally)/IQ correlation is .25 and .35. Tons of room for a lot of variation.
“No shit, but that doesn’t mean the IQ test doesn’t correlate.”
I know. I never said that IQ tests don’t correlate. I did say that work-sample tests have a slightly higher validity compared to IQ tests (.54 to .51, table 1).
Click to access Schmidt%20and%20Hunter%201998%20Validity%20and%20Utility%20Psychological%20Bulletin.pdf
When combined, the best validity becomes GMA and integrity tests (.65 validity) and GMA and a structured interview (.63 validity). Both structured and unstructed (stupid to group them, in my opinion) showed a validity of .59.
For predictive validity for overall job performance, work sample tests have a slightly higher validity on its own compared to GMA.
Using PP’s pilot example: Would you hire a pilot that has a higher IQ and lower work sample score (cuz muh IQ) or would you hire someone with an average IQ but solid work scores?
Inb4 PP’s fallacious attacks against me.
“The correlation between cognitive miserliness and IQ is between .2 and .3. The correlation between the ‘mindware’ (it occurs when people lack the specific knowledge, rules, and strategies to think rationally)/IQ correlation is .25 and .35. Tons of room for a lot of variation.”
I know. I already read that article and responded to it, you haven’t acknowledged the comment yet.
Again, This deficiency is a learned trait, not actual fluidity. They have not established a coherent distinction between fluid rationality and crystallized rationality.
The box that says:
“Absence of irrelevant
context effects in decision
making”
Is more of a verbal trait than a mathematical one. They are not actually measuring logic, but personality traits developed for financial stabilization.
“This deficiency is a learned trait, not actual fluidity”
Cognitive miserliness and the mindware gap or just one or the other?
Fluid rationality—processing rational thought
Crystallized rationality—all knowledge structures related to rational thought
How did they not establish a coherent distinction? Care to explain? Looks quite distinct to me, although my brain is too small and IQ is too low so maybe I don’t get it.
“Is more of a verbal trait than a mathematical one.”
Does rationality only have to do with math?
“They are not actually measuring logic, but personality traits developed for financial stabilization.”
“but personality traits developed for financial stabilization.”
Those are just a sample. There is a much extensive list.
I’m sure you’ve seen this: the magnitude of “myside bias” shows very little relationship to intelligence.
Click to access 55e3994008ae2fac4721302e.pdf
Would you say that people who are able to dissassociate themselves from their views and biases to look at something are rational or not?
There is also instrumental rationality—adopting appropriate goals and behavior that optimizes one’s ability to achieve their goal and epistemic rationality—holding beliefs inline with available evidence. Absence of knowledge important to rational thought creates mindware gaps. Rationalizing is, of course, partly a learned trait (take an intro to logic course and you’ll see), however, high IQ people are no more likely to be more rational than lower IQ people.
I’ve got a whole slew of new research and books to read now. (I’m being partly contrarian here/am really interested in this now [as I am with a lot if you’ve not figured it out alread])
Though I will sink my teeth into this stuff after I get Richard Wrangham’s book to my house, Catching Fire (I should get it in Thursday. So excited).
(I don’t want our fire/meat discussion to die. Don’t forget about that. I’m much more interested in that one.)
“Fluid rationality—processing rational thought
Crystallized rationality—all knowledge structures related to rational thought”
That was the issue a lot of what they were naming as fluid rationality had no real objective principles defining them as such.
“although my brain is too small and IQ is too low so maybe I don’t get it.”
I never said that lol
“Would you say that people who are able to dissassociate themselves from their views and biases to look at something are rational or not?”
While I think that kind of mentality has a lot to do with rationality, i think it is more linked to theory of mind. A lot of these traits seemed linked to creativity which IQ may not measure correctly.(remember east asians)
“however, high IQ people are no more likely to be more rational than lower IQ people.”
So, A drug dealing murderer with an IQ of 70 has the same potential for rational thought as the son of a wealthy philanthropist who goes to a private school?
“That was the issue a lot of what they were naming as fluid rationality had no real objective principles defining them as such.”
I admit I don’t know too much about this. I literally just started reading about this yesterday. I just ordered his books as well. I will return to this point in the future.
“I never said that lol”
Jab at pp.
“While I think that kind of mentality has a lot to do with rationality, i think it is more linked to theory of mind. A lot of these traits seemed linked to creativity which IQ may not measure correctly.(remember east asians)”
IQ is correlated with creativity. Think to the study on blood flow to the brain that I cited in regards to iq and creativity. Rushton thought that the environment depressed their creative thought and with those shackles released they will be more creative than Europeans (though quantifying that is another story).
“So, A drug dealing murderer with an IQ of 70 has the same potential for rational thought as the son of a wealthy philanthropist who goes to a private school?”
Most likely, yes. You should use Sci hub to pull up Stanovich’s papers.
IQ doesn’t equal RQ.
“depressed their creative thought and with those shackles released they will be more creative than Europeans:
I believe the individual east asian is more creative than the individual white, but their more conformist and pragmatic nature holds them back.
“You should use Sci hub to pull up Stanovich’s papers.”
I already read them.
How would you objectively quantify creativity?
Which of his papers did you read? Thoughts on them?
“How would you objectively quantify creativity?”
I don’t know. It’d be difficult though. Creativity is a product of intelligence that requires a lot of outside influence.
Of course it’d be difficult. Because it’s extremely subjective. Yes it is a product and they do correlate, but without objectively defining “creativity”, where do we go from here?
“Because it’s extremely subjective.”
How so? Wouldn’t you agree that creativity is simply an original abstraction expressed through multiple potential mediums?
Would you say there is a difference between innovation or the act of inventing and creativity itself? Innovation conflicts with my definition stated above.
What may help this dissonance is this question: Does creativity require originality?
“where do we go from here?”
What do you mean? I was merely suggesting the definitions for fluid and crystallized rationality mirror particular traits required for creativity(definition 1)
“Does creativity require originality?”
There we go. That’s better. Now, is there any work done/can you think of a way to objectively quantify who’s more creative, say, between Europeans and East Asians?
I just asked you the question for the natural ‘progression’ of the conversation.
“What do you mean? I was merely suggesting the definitions for fluid and crystallized rationality mirror particular traits required for creativity(definition 1)”
I mean in regards to RQ/IQ.
I need to read more into it, honestly. So I think we can put this to bed for a future discussion (like we did with cooking/fire, don’t forget about that convo; am loving it)/.
Fully diverging here:
Read these two articles:
^^^ In this one, he says I misunderstand heritability. Read my response to his original piece here:
And I talked a bit about this in my article last night:
Thoughts? Look at all of Steele’s ad hom/’character’ attacks/baseless assertions he tosses my way. Hilarious!!!!
He still thinks that Stereotype Threat is relevant in psychology; that’s even funnier.
Numerous laboratory experiments have been conducted to show that African Americans’ cognitive test performance suffers under stereotype threat, i.e., the fear of confirming negative stereotypes concerning one’s group. A meta-analysis of 55 published and unpublished studies of this effect shows clear signs of publication bias. The effect varies widely across studies, and is generally small. Although elite university undergraduates may underperform on cognitive tests due to stereotype threat, this effect does not generalize to non-adapted standardized tests, high-stakes settings, and less academically gifted test-takers. Stereotype threat cannot explain the difference in mean cognitive test performance between African Americans and European Americans.
Click to access program2009.pdf
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rabble-rouser/201512/is-stereotype-threat-overcooked-overstated-and-oversold
lol ST. I’m going to smash this guy this weekend.
“Now, is there any work done/can you think of a way to objectively quantify who’s more creative, say, between Europeans and East Asians?”
Well if creativity does not require originality then that means creativity is a learned trait through accumulation of culture. Meaning whites would be more creative because they have more behavioral plasticity.
If we include originality, asians become the most creative.
“I mean in regards to RQ/IQ”
It means RQ is just an extension of crystallized g and isn’t reflective of innate potential.
“Thoughts? Look at all of Steele’s ad hom/’character’ attacks/baseless assertions he tosses my way. Hilarious!!!!”
He’s not compltely wrong. Heritability does not measure genetic inheritance and most HBDer’s really don’t fully understand the studies they think* they know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybSvwUhKKoo
Anti-Le Pen civil war in my city this weekend. This year’s gonna lit as fuck, yay !
the role of the antfa is twofold
1. To convince the French public that a Le Pen win will bring nothing but chaos to the country .So if they value peace then they shouldn’t vote for Le Pen .
2. to direct the energy of the militant left against the white man instead of the jews.
There was a video of an antifa crowd in Germany condemning racists and at the same time waving an Israeli flag.
Jimmy i know you’ve already given your opinion about who is influential but it would be really helpful if you could quickly tell me who your top 30 picks are.
It’s just more scientific if i get a top 30 from everyone & aggregate them into a top 100 based on which names appear most across all lists
It should only take you 5 min given all the suggestions me and others have provided.
As an extreme white nationalist you bring a unique perspective
I’m not supposed to waste time on Jimmy’s asstalk but he once again seems absolutely clueless about what’s going on.
This weekend’s riots are a manifestation of Brittany’s culture of political violence. The two main war zones for the last 5 years have been downtown Nantes and Notre-Dame-des-Landes. Rennes and other places in Brittany have experienced tensions too. This is a Breton thing, Paris has a violent political culture too but the other big cities never experience such trouble, if we exclude hooliganism.
This summer, Nantes was on fire almost every weekend, for a variety of reasons. Protests against the new airport, pro-migrant protests, anti new labor law, social justice war… The activists have been the Antifascists, the Anti-globalization, the Breton separatists, labor unions, ghetto gangs and other types of far-left militants.
In 2002, huge demonstrations had been organized to protest against the Front National’s qualification for the second round. Everything was calm, except in Paris and Brittany. Everybody knows that another FN success would cause violent clashes in Paris and Brittany. What’s not known is how the Police is gonna react, will they side with the rioters or with the new FN power, are the fascist militia gonna take part in the guerilla, I don’t know. The whole thing is exciting though.
And many French people want a revolution right now, withing to find light within chaos.
As a black mans Afro, I am telling you my friend, that we are nut going to stand for de RACISM. This fighting as you say is strictly for recreational purposes only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBjfEqRmHew
This is how de politics is done in my homeland, South Africa. The best way. And very enjoyable. Very good for exercise and socialising.
In my homelands we do it like that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r26AsG289Rw
ok here is my 30
The hardest part is the order
1. Evelyn Rothschild
2. David Rockefeller (and family)
3. Prince Charles – as representative of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
4. King Willem-Alexander – as representative of the House of Orange
5. Netanyahu
6. Yossi Cohen – Director of Mossad
7. George Soros
8. Page/Brin -Google
9. Jim White – Wikipedia
10. Zuckerberg – Facebook
11. General Fan Changlong – the top General of the Chinese military.
12. Putin
13. Trump – only because of potential
14. Merkel – only because of EU influence
15. Xi jinping – only because of potential to take down Military.
16. Bob Igor – Disney
17. Haim Saban
18. Janet Yellen ( Phil is right about Fischer )
20. Richard Haass – CFR
21. Garry Pruitt – Associated Press ( AP)
22. James “Harding” – Head of BBC news
23. Stephen Adler – Reuters
24. Jeff Zucker – CNN
25. Lloyd Blankfein – Goldman Sachs
26. Jamie Dimon – JP Morgan
27. John Koskinen – IRS commissioner. (Wiki calls him Finish haha) access to any bank account in US . Incredible blackmailing ability and a tax free life for his tribe.
28. Zbigniew Brzezinski – Globalist Theorist
29. David Coleman – Head of the College board which makes and grades the SAT. He can give any operative from his tribe a 1600 on the SAT and subject tests.
30. Alexander Bortnikov – head of FSB
Those behind the thrown :
Rothschild family
Rockefeller family
Warburg family
Oppenheimer family
Lazard Family
Schiff Family
Loeb Family
Kuhn Family
Goldman family
Sachs Family
Seligman Family
Thalman Family
Erlanger Family
Astor Family
Hambro Family
there are many more but those families are the most important.
Excellent thanks.
my bad CS majors score higher than history, journalism, architecture, fine art, psychology, and education.
they score below every other major.
no wonder hymie is schizo. his IQ is so low.
sad!
Yiddo cant tell the difference between Intended major and graduate.
Everyone wants to work for Google/Apple so they take CS classes but leave when algorithms come out.
Use your 115 IQ and look up the average starting salary for CS graduates and compare it to others.
I really got you with the PhD comment didn’t i ?
And since when did Steinbergers get this uppity?
IQ is just a jew piece of paper.
charles schwab and thomas peterffy are crypto jews.
you can tell because peterffy is short and schwab has a name beginning in “sch”.
sad!
Mug of Pee, everyone’s waiting for your top 30 most influential living people list!
So today I was at a board meeting and somebody asked for me opinion on the risk committee report.
I said: Too risky.
Less risk. More money.
Everyone applauded.
How has the white man been able to get away with this for so long?
i think they were being sarcastic.
Pumpkin, why have you not posted on de Oscars? The Moonlight sweep shows how big brained and you know, high IQ all de black oscar winners were. You know?
For example, Hidden Figures shows how my second cousins invented time travel.
Why are you hiding this figures from your shortlist.
#100mostinfluentialsowhite
And when the sun comes out, its a lovely day.
If you reverse the ball cutting feminism…people like me come to beat up certain loveable pokemon.
You see, everything we find good in life is derived from relative utility. And so pussifying white men with brainwashing, increases Zions happiness and the reverse.
Ergo, making america great again means becoming more masculine and violent.
To take back our land, money and women.
Its going to be…
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Red in the face. I sang that with Bill there. Me and Bill, brothers.
WHO SAID THAT?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-CH-ozxB14
Mugabe for Mayor 2010.
Hamburglar (I) 56%
Jewey ‘Kill Whitey’ Liarberman (R) 42%
Cat Lady (D) 1%
Robert (A) 1% + 4 Grammys including ‘Best Original Country Song’ and ‘Best Political Newcomer’.
1. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
2. Kenny G
3. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
4. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
5. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
6. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
7. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
8. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
9. David A. Granger
10. Taneti Mamau
11. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
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15. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
16. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
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18. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
19. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
20. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
21. Carrot Top
22. Robert Gabriel Mugabe
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That was very funny Mug of Pee!
Now a serious list please
i forgot david hasselhoff and jerry lewis.
it’s a stupid list.
none makes any enduring contribution that another would not have made.
newton is OBVIOUSLY the greatest physical scientist ever yet he himself echoed einstein…
If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.
peepee is still in thrall to the individualist anglo-american ideology.
sad!
I agree individual influence is tiny in the grand scheme of things. But which living people have the most? Please give your top 30.
men create. but so far as their creations do nothing they are at best just a means whereby the idle rich seek status among the idle rich. at worst they are a means of distracting and bewildering the masses or just a means of enriching jews and other parasites.
men create. they invent. they perfect.
but this is not really creation, invention, or perfection.
the thing is waiting to be done.
it is DISCOVERED.
science and techne are more akin to exploration than to fine art or genesis.
it’s waiting. out there. it is found. or not.
gentiles make. jews take.
I don’t know if I’ll be able to come up with a list of individuals, it sounds retarded to me actually.
Seeing PP’s lists as well as those of the commenters, my opinions are that:
-they are completely Anglocentric
-they reek of conspiracy
-they are biased toward far-right theories
-they are oblivious of pop culture and religion
-they are proof that peepee and many commenters here don’t socialize or don’t understand people
not mine.
but i do agree the very idea of such a list is EXTREMELY anglo-american…and thus RETARDED.
My list is mid eastern
most significant news story of the last 40 years.
AIDS.
not the end of the cold war. which hasn’t really ended.
not because i sympathize with homos. but because i don’t.
more americans have died from AIDS than died in WW II.
AIDS was a voice crying from the wilderness (jungle). “hey remember me. i’ll fuck you up.”
36m have died worldwide, supposedly. much more than all the wars after WW II combined.
and the story lasted for 15 years…until 1996 when effective drugs were discovered.
it’s the ultimate horror story.
2/3ds of the developed world’s victims (gays) brought it on themselves.
yet it’s still pitiful. why would people choose death?
as a french algerian said…
There is only one really serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide. Deciding whether or not life is worth living is to answer the fundamental question in philosophy.
…crying in the wilderness…
that individuals have so little effect is another argument for the nation-state.
in the end ideas as identity don’t work.
it would be nice if they did.
but they don’t.
so a large number of sovereign nation-states is the best.
afro identifies with france. good on him that he identifies with a semi-nation-state. (even though he’s not french.)
…
but ultimate maturity comes when one identifies with no group, when he identifies with an idea or ideas.
france much more than the US may be a conflation of the two.
that is, after the revolution, to be french is to identify with certain ideas, to be a son of revolution.
or that’s what the french elite is taught…
not the reality “on the ground”.
the mountain would’ve guillotined afro’s adoptive parents.
…
france…
so ridiculous.
for the french their revolution is like a movie they like…a jerry lewis movie…
just sad!
…
afro!
seriously!
dude!
on bloomberg tv whenever a french guy comes on i just yawn.
i listen most keenly to the spaniards.
the germans and scandinavians sound like they’re reading from a book. a very boring book.
the italians sound like they don’t care. fuck all y’all. we used to rule all y’all.
that individuals have so little effect
Individuals have very little effect. But tell us which 30 living individuals you think have had the most of that teeny tiny effect.
“even though he’s not french”
Look, I don’t care about what you think my ethnicity is. I don’t even care about that myself. I don’t tell myself “I’m French” when I wake up in the morning or when I look at myself in the mirror. I don’t think about it in my daily live. It’s only when I cross a border or request an administrative service that I give proof of my French citizenship.
When random people ask me, I tell them I’m French. Why ? Because I’m nothing else than that except maybe Norman and now Breton. My family is French, I identify with the French army, the French aristocracy, the Catholic Church and the Grandes Écoles. Call it whatever you like, I call it French, or as we like to say in the circles I’m part of: Roman, in opposition to the low class Gauls. And it’s unquestionable to all the people that matter to me that I’m French or Roman.
Now do I take pride in identifying with France ? Damn sure, I like everything in this country, including its most annoying imperfections. My national feeling is genuine, I love my country when the FN crowd actually hate others and don’t really give a fuck about the French nation, they only care about their selfish interests.
I love my country, I love that it’s attractive to immigrants. I love the idea that some people in far away places want to assimilate to my culture but I also respect and get interested in those who want to keep their own culture as I wouldn’t give up mine so easily. A nation is not a tribe, genuine nationalism arouses the most noble feelings, not the primitive instincts of the far right.
Never tell me that France is on the decline, no she’s just changing, all countries change. But I know France has always had the genius to reinvent herself and learn from hardships. Those who don’t have this confidence are not patriots. But I actually like the way France is changing, the 1950s postcard is not an ideal for me.
france is “transitioning”.
and of course the british just repeat their mantra…
i love american cock…
i love american cock…
…
steve major from hsbc who sounds and looks like he smokes four packs a day is the one exception.
i would be interested to know about afro’s RC-ism.
if he weren’t peepee.
no one goes to confession anymore…
except italian women over 90.
afro should confess the kardashians.
prove to me you’re not peepee afro.
Many people go to confessions, I follow the Tridentine tradition of Roman Catholicism, the rules established by the Council of Trent in 1563. I read the bible in Latin, attend Masses in Latin with the priest turning his back to the audience. These Masses are much longer than mainstream ones.
I guess you’re clueless about that. It’s about very old traditions of Europe’s very old money. Not being classist but it’s totally foreign to your life between Cascadia and California.
it’s just SSPX afro. mel gibson’s cult. he lives in california afro. it’s not ancient. it’s just pre-vatican ii. i agree with it. no tradition, no authenticity. hymie converted to scientology from rabbinic judaism. he doesn’t know.
SSPX is not a cult, let alone Gibson’s cult. It is just a priestly society that is in opposition with the Pope, while still being loyal to him. They have not been excommunicated and followers like me aren’t heretics. We’re not even members of SSPX, we just prefer the Tridentine Tradition that they keep alive.
I was also part of Juventutem when in high school and prep school, It is a Tridentine association that has the full support of the Papacy, took part in the WYD since its creation.
The reason why these groups are recent is because they continue the old tradition that ceased to be the Church’s official position recently. But they are the guardians of the Council of Trent’s doctrine.
As for the social implications of Tridentine Catholicism in California, I doubt it’s anywhere as big as in France, where Catholicism is the historical religion. In 2012, when the government decided to allow gay Marriage, we were borderline rioting in every big city. And Tridentine Catholics are even more elite than Jews, more numerous too. Like I’d say in an average Catholic school, Traditionalists are something like 50% of the student population, maybe more among teachers.
” hymie converted to scientology from rabbinic judaism. he doesn’t know ”
Says the guy called Steinberg ? did you do the Kol nidre for 2017?
My dad is Episcopal and my mom is Dutch Reformed.
I was raised episcopal .
Mugabe’salleged Catholicism explains his anti-WASP diatribes.
I dont know how anyone with even a basic level of self-respect could surrender their mind to a Pope.
As a Catholic, I condemn Protestantism, especially Evangelical Protestantism but I have softer views on Episcopalians which is a very WASP denomination but is taking steps to come back closer to Catholicism as part of a broader Anglican-Catholic reconciliation movement.
” As a Catholic, I condemn Protestantism ”
lol
Catholics are in no position to condemn anything or anyone.
Perhaps you guys should start with the priests sodomizing thousands of boys for the thrills.
I am not anti-Catholic but i am anti-Catholic Church.
Their incredible efforts to increase the african population is enough of a crime to warrant abolishing the catholic church.
But i’m also very unhappy with the way the Episcopal church has gone.
The episcopal church was run by upper class WASPs and so they naturally supported a lot of idealistic causes.
For example, they donated to the ” civil rights” cause which was a black nationalist movement to end white rule.
Many bishops even marched with the black militants.
They also apposed Apartheid south Africa.
I stopped attending the church when they went on their recent liberal assault about gay marriage.
My parents reject whats going on but they still attend church functions because its tradition (dads side)
I remember reading a magazine article by Tucker Carlson when i was in college where he wrote about the fall of the Episcopal church with the same sadness.
A quarter of U.S. presidents, half of the chief justices of the Supreme Court, J.P Morgan, the Vanderbilts, the Mellons, the Astors, Jefferson Davis- all were Episcopalians.
The day we fell is the day America fell.
Christianity is finished and i reject it but i will never call myself an athiest.
Atheism is an even more grotesque cult than Christianity.
except i’ve never made any diatribes against WASPs.
peepee. you must ban commenters who lie repeatedly and humorlessly.
it’s exhausting having to correct their lies.
i’ve also never said i was spanish or irish or whatever.
i’m an american with mostly british genes. a little spanish, french, and swiss.
i’m a direct descendant of william bradford.
my most recent immigrant ancestor arrived from liverpool in the late 19th c.
nothing but blue eyes as far back as photography.
hymie can’t say this of his famiry. sad!
my guess is hymie has scottish ancestry. there’s only one group of people worse than the jews. the scots.
plus i’ve never said i was a roman.
i hate the roman church.
i just hate protestants even more.
if i were an observant christian i’d have to be eastern orthodox or some other sort of non-roman orthodox.
as a turk once told me…between God and me i don’t need intermediaries.
and my dad’s family left the roman church for the english church. his mom was a methodist. my mom’s mom was roman. her dad was disciples of christ. in fact both my dad and his dad seriously considered becoming anglican priests. but it paid too little for their responsibilities.
” except i’ve never made any diatribes against WASPs. ”
you constantly cry about anglo-american this and anglo-american that.
You constantly make indirect attacks on WASP Culture.
“peepee. you must ban commenters…… ”
how very jewish
” i’ve also never said i was spanish or irish or whatever. ”
Stop playing games yiddo
” hymie can’t say this of his famiry. sad! ”
My family is 100% blue .eyed
I have in-laws with green eyes though.
Nice try
” my guess is hymie has scottish ancestry. there’s only one group of people worse than the jews. the scots”
not a single drop of scottish in me .
Dads side 100% English moms side mostly Dutch with some English.
We don’t have any Steinbergers and that’s all that maters.
oh and scots worse than jews?
now we know that he’s a yid.
in fact both my dad and his dad seriously considered becoming anglican priests
there is no such thing as a Anglican priest .
They are called vicars
can anyone imagine a vicar called Steinberger?
i hate the roman church.
says the guy who posts a gazillion pics of Francis the marxist idol
Anyone with that much praise for francis ,the idol of paganism , is a catholic .
in my town, second biggest city in cascadia, the sspx folks have a church.
it’s a “manufactured home”.
sad!
In Portland ? Well, everything looks unauthentic west of Chicago.
I think it’s totally pointless to start a theological debate on this blog but one thing is certain: Jimmy is not a Christian. Which is rather sad and ironical for someone who pretends to defend western identity. But it’s asshat Jimmy so everything’s normal.
Oh, let’s play theology:
P1: There exists something that changed.
P2: If something changes then it is changed by another.
P3: If a thing is changed by another, then either there is an infinite regress of changed changers or there is an unchanged changer.
P4: An infinite regress of changed changers is impossible.
PP, pick a premise. Which is wrong and why?
This is a logical proof for an unchanged changer (God, if you will).
Are you a logical man?
I’m afraid that you’re confusing theology and teleology. But I’ll think about it later on. It’s 6:00 AM, I’m going to the gym. Love to work out before everybody wakes up.
Afro
” Jimmy is not a Christian. Which is rather sad and ironical for someone who pretends to defend western identity. ”
This african thinks that being a catholic pagan makes him native to France.
What a dumb African.
confession has got to be one of the dumbest things in the world.
The idea that in order to be forgiven you must confess you sins to a mortal is ridiculous.
Doesn’t God know what you did ? why does he need someone else to forgive you ?
Catholicism is one of the most paganistic cults i have ever seen in my life.
And lets not forget the church telling africans not to use contraceptives because it wold decrease the number of catholics born.
as if the world needs more africans.
Lets not forget that Rome fell after adopting the church.
” Lets not forget that Rome fell after adopting the church. ”
Rome didn’t adopt the church.
The Roman empire created Catholicism.
Thats why its called the Roman Catholic Church.
After creating Catholicism they introduced a chapter in the bible called Romans
Romans 13
” Submission to Governing Authorities
13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. ”
No one can read this but conclude two things
1. Roman empire spread Christianity to dominate their subjects.
2. The bible has been tampered so much.
It is so obvious that the roman government told them to write that so that they could have obedient christian subjects.
Christianity is a tool of control
” as if the world needs more africans. ”
We don’t need more of any race.
We need a global population reduction.
Watch that poor heathens.
hymie doesn’t know what “pagan” means. low v again. typical computer nerd.
Hymie has low v? Very unusual for a Jew.
and ZERO sense of humor…even more uncommon for a jew.
sad!
but i do hate scottish people.
i can never forgive jocky wilson for besting eric bristow in 1989.
NEVER AGAIN!
NEVER AGAIN!
very sad point made by hymie.
even though competence at CS is very…very…valuable…
the very smart avoid it like AIDS.
even though competence at CS is very…very…valuable…
the very smart avoid it like AIDS.
Because it doesn’t pay enough
“the very smart avoid it like AIDS. ”
more ignorance from the food distribution guy.
every top software engineering job requires that you take a Ravens like aptitude test.
if a job selects for high IQ then obviously its a high IQ profession.
They also filter applicants by which college they attended, so they are also selecting for soft skills.
” Because it doesn’t pay enough”
I make six figures in the currency of the country i live in.
you know which country i’m in.
When people talk of CS they think of Web design or Systems administration which are both jobs done by the dot heads.
Software engineering ,at the highest level , is very white.
of the places i have worked i would say that they were 80% white.
The more competitive the market the whiter the team and the higher the salaries.
IB is the most ruthless.