Emotional intelligence is a vague incoherent concept introduced by Harvard scholar Daniel Goleman. Blogger race realist has described it as a hybrid of IQ and the best personality traits. I would say it’s a hybrid of general intelligence (g), Theory of Mind, self-awareness, and the best personality traits.
A lot of people find it a useful term because conventional IQ tests do an incomplete job measuring social cognition, and they want a term to describe people who are smart at understanding human emotions, however we now have a term for that: Theory of Mind (ToM). And Goleman ruined his whole construct by not distinguishing between people who are smart at emotions (i.e. a master manipulator), and those who just have good emotions (someone who doesn’t feel the need to overeat).
But historically there’s been a very clear distinction between emotions (that which feels, wants, and desires) and the intellect (that which thinks, knows, and understands). In my opinion, the intellect is the part of the brain that problem solves (intelligence) while emotions are the problems that need to be solved.
Even today, factor analysis finds a clear distinction between the cognitive and the emotional.
So the term emotional intelligence is a bit like the term mental physical ability; it’s inherently ambiguous.
How emotions relate to intelligence
If you feel fear, your intelligence solves that problem by figuring out how to make you safe. Now in rare cases, you might have someone with a high IQ who has damage to the part of the brain that feel fear. This person will superficially appear to have an extremely low IQ, because he will stand in the middle of the road, not caring about all the cars that could kill him.
Goleman looks at someone like this and thinks, he must not be very intelligent, despite his high IQ and invents the construct of emotional intelligence to explain his behavior. But the fearless person is NOT lacking in emotional intelligence, he’s lacking the emotional drive to safe his own life because he doesn’t fear it ending. From our fearful perspective, he has an inability to problem solve, but from his fearless perspective, there’s no problem to be solved.
One of the biggest mistakes people make is assuming that if someone doesn’t solve the same problems most of us do, whether it’s making money, advancing a career, finding a mate, or simply saving our life, that therefore that person is a poor problem solver. But problems are subjective. If you lack the emotional wiring to feel anxiety about not surviving or succeeding, then by definition, it’s not a problem for you, so you will not solve it. IQ tests attempt to make problems objective by explicitly defining every item as a problem to be solved, thus allowing people with different incentive structures to be compared very accurately.
So if someone has a high IQ, and they appear to be acting stupidly, chances are the behavior is smart on a level you don’t understand, because the high IQ person has already been objectively certified as a good problem solver.
Self-awareness
Of course, it’s also stupid to throw the baby out with the bath water just because some of Goleman’s ideas make no sense. He did use some tests that were innovative new measures of actual intelligence such as one where you had to throw a ring around a distant goal post. In order to win the game, you had to pick the most distant goal post that you could possibly succeed in ringing.
This was a cool test of test of self-awareness (which might be an actual cognitive ability, much like Theory of Mind, though perhaps personality traits like self-esteem and narcissism might attenuate it). As Goleman explained to Oprah, “you want to set your goals high, but not so high that they exceed your reach.”
Big brained Oprah replied by saying “I have a different philosophy. Reach for the stars, and if you hit the moon in between, you’re still up there.”
“Well Oprah,” he said “your reach is really really far. You’ve done amazingly well.”
I remember in my nineth grade English class, the teacher asked the class why we study Greek mythology. Every student except me got the answer wrong, but the dumbest answer was from a classmate named Doug who said “because the school board feels its nessecary.”
A few weeks later, he told the oldest and wisest teacher in the high school that he wanted to be a lawyer.
“Oh noooooooooooooooo Dear,” she explained in her condescending voice. “You’re just not a lawyer, dear”
Doug’s friend came to Doug’s defence saying “you could still be a lawyer. You just have to work a lot harder.”
“Oh noooooooooooo Dear,” she now said to the friend. “it’s kind to have high hopes, but it’s much better to have realistic goals and go grab em.”
As a university student, this teacher had taken the WAIS IQ test, and though she was never given her score, the examiner would belittle her with comments like “you can’t be that dumb can you.”
Yet she would go on to marry a lawyer and be the head of the resource department at a high class high school.
Because she had realistic goals and goed grabbed em!
Regardless of her score on the WAIS, she would have done well on the ring test.
Bout time this was said. I’m on my phone so I can’t link PDFs so just Google “emotional intelligence big 5 personality traits”
http://www.degruyter.com/view/j/prilozi.2014.35.issue-2/prilozi-2014-0008/prilozi-2014-0008.xml
I knew when I first heard the news pushing this that it wouldn’t be all it’s cracked up to be.
i think your iq is very low peepee, your writing skills are ATROCIOUS!
What’s wrong with it in your opinion?
Mugabe sockpuppet….
oprah’s brain is no bigger than lance armstrong’s, but oprah’s hair is huge.
lance armstrong does not have a large head.
Oprah’s head is light years bigger than Armstrong’s.
no it isn’t.
you’re LYING again.
the bottom picture is an abo fucktard, and all the others are of very small headed people.
it’s time for peepee to be rehabilitated with the ass dozer.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/monstertruck/images/f/f4/Assdozer010159vv2.923.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150827011951
Even if the abo has a homo erectus cranial capacity of 1000 cubic centimetres, Oprah’s cranium is more than double the abo’s, putting Oprah easily in the 2000+ cc range which is over +6 SD for American women
2000 cc sounds ridiculous.
Why is it so hard to accept that a black woman could have one of the biggest crania in the world.
Statistically we know every race has extreme outliers on every trait
Even if you don’t think Oprah’s smart, there’s no point denying the head size, which only correlates 0.23 with IQ
Einstein’s brain was small
I’m not saying that because she’s black. I’m saying that 2000 cc sounds ridiculous for any person since the average is 1400 iirc.
I don’t think she’s too smart. She’s just a black woman who said the right things at the right time and all of the women and blacks latched on to her. That’s how she got successful.
My opinion anyway.
There was probably a lot of luck in her success, as is true of almost all billionaires.
But you have to know what to do with luck
their very curly hair make their head appear to be greater than really is.
it’s a pretty bizarre misuse of the old physiognomy if physiognomy already is a partial misuse.
bill clinton does have a large head.
Bill Clinton has a HUGE head head, but Oprah’s is MUCH MUCH bigger.
are you blind peepeee as well as a compulsive LIAR?
PP,
stop to write your stupid blog, please…
your texts are delightful specially for sadistic people who like to see a stupid person pretending to be more smart than she really is.
race post hoc irrealist is a parrot,
he no have any basic capacity to argue without ask for help for their favorite-quotes.
he just repeat their dogmatic quotes and without ANY miserable subsequent development.
and yes he think he is 1000% right…
most of living beings think exactly the same.
”Emotional intelligence is a vague incoherent concept introduced by Harvard scholar Daniel Goleman.”
i already showed for you why emotional intelligence is not a vague and incoherent concept.
just refute my comments in the last text if you can, before you appeal in other potentially incongruent or pretty superficial observations.
PP,
c’mmon, you have very basic verbal abstract skills, accept it, it’s wise to do.
you’re always judge wrong your own skills.
”I would say it’s a hybrid of general intelligence (g), Theory of Mind, self-awareness, and the best personality traits.”
we have virtually ALL elements that compose human mind there above and you and the italian parrot think it is JUST** just it**
jeeezzzz…uis
”A lot of people find it a useful term because conventional IQ tests do an incomplete job measuring social cognition, and they want a term to describe people who are smart at understanding human emotions, however we now have a term for that: Theory of Mind (ToM). ”
No. theory of mind is a trait, not necessarily a skill itself,
a skill is something that already have a potential to be developed, trait is neutrally qualitative characteristic,
a mathematical skill for example already have criteria to be understood such a potential.
So most people have so-called theory of mind, but most people no use it in the perfectionist way, because they can’t do it.
my definition of intelligence is as a primordial concept, ”capacity to judge correctly”
but intelligence diversify in many areas… one of them is the emotional skills.
this insistence of deny emotional intelligence is exactly the same idiocy to deny race or racial differences.
”And Goleman ruined his whole construct by not distinguishing between people who are smart at emotions (i.e. a master manipulator), and those who just have good emotions (someone who doesn’t feel the need to overeat).”
i don’t think he ruin absolutely their concept because supposedly he don’t separate their potential sub-groups.
“your texts are delightful specially for sadistic people who like to see a stupid person pretending to, be more smart than she really is.”
PP is pretty damn smart.
“race post hoc irrealist is a parrot,”
Squawk squawk!
I’m not a parrot. As I said previously, I put quotes then I discuss. Where do people get new ideas? From other people. From books. From scientific papers. No one person can think of every new thing. You learn new things by reading what others write, experts in the field. Not yoyr opinions.
“And yes he think he is 1000% right…”
Of course. We all think we’re right. But how you see you’re right is debating, ie discussing views and putting pertinent links. I back everything I say.
“this insistence of deny emotional intelligence is exactly the same idiocy to deny race or racial differences.”
Nope. Just Google “emotional intelligence big 5 personality traits” to see the research on it. It’s nowhere near denying denying race or racial differences.
The data is clear, EQ is a good mix of the big 5 personality traits and high IQ. Nothing more.
parrot say
”peepee is pretty fuck smart”
PP is pretty damn smart.
Thank you!
Np pp. Santo yes I am a parrot. Squawk!
EQ is garbage. It’s like Gardner’s theory of multiple intelligences. Garbage. Muh multiple intelligences. Muh EQ!!
Santo and pp, here.
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/multiple-intelligences-emotional-intelligence-creativity-and-g/
No Irrealist,
i pass this amazing opportunity for other person…
parrot just repeat the same thing, i will not read what you have to… repeat, again.
No PP,
you have mental issues, your obsession of Oprah is beyond of the acceptable,
i admit, you have very good chrystallized knowledge about psychometrics and showed above-average mathematical skills…
but in other things you insist not just write but argue, advise, conclude.. as if you were ”big people”
or
you’re a joker and is laughing with all of your reader
or
you’re genuinely the PP…
Squawk.
I repeat the same things because they’re true. Simple as that!! EQ don’t real.
Read that link buddy.
No, because you no have mental capacity to develop it, just it.
That’s funny.
Did you read that link yet?
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/multiple-intelligences-emotional-intelligence-creativity-and-g/
I’m great in my field. This is just a hobby for me. I love learning about intelligence which is why I post here.
You say I’m a parrot because I quote relevant things, but I’m just showing where I get my information, which is how it’s done. Empirical data matters, emotions don’t. =^)
No. theory of mind is a trait, not necessarily a skill itself,
a skill is something that already have a potential to be developed, trait is neutrally qualitative characteristic,
Then just call it “developed theory of mind”
Also bad to be sarcastic
Bad sign
You understand that verbal abstract concepts and subsequent understanding is not your strengths???
Just like most of idiotic “””smart””” bitch you have implicit megalomania or polymath syndrome… The world is tour oyster supposedly
Repeat the same mistakes or high functioning normiea …
Because you’re a high functioning normie
Still a normie
Someone because I don’t know real smart people need try to explain basic things that they already misunderstood.
If theory of mind and emotional intelligence is basically the same thing for you why you deny the existence of the second term?
If theory of mind and emotional intelligence is basically the same thing for you why you deny the existence of the second term?
They’re the same in that they both involve the ability to understand people, but emotional intelligence is also about how good your emotions are. I reject calling people with good emotions “emotionally intelligent”, because I see emotions as the controller of intelligence, not PART of intelligence, and although intelligence influences emotions, I believe that intelligence and emotions are two different things.
This I agree with you
Without emotional control and understanding how people will act??? Stupidly??
So why deny emotional intelligence existence??
If goleman create this term ”just” to fight against racist/white IQ tests,
If he destroy their own concept (if he really created this concept first),
This is not arguments against emotional intelligence
To argue against the existence of something you need attack directly this thing and not via proto-persuasive excuses to deny it.
”because I see emotions as the controller of intelligence”
i don’t need to say more about it, you already say for me, thank you.
So why deny emotional intelligence existence??
What I deny is that emotions are part of intelligence. Someone who gets hit by a car because he can’t feel fear, is not emotionally stupid, he just doesn’t care. He may appear stupid to you, because you fear death, but if you have no fear, then nothing matters. If nothing matters, then there’s no objective way to say a decision was smart or stupid.
Why is this conversation still ongoing. Can’t just make up traits, etc.
Because something is more complex don’t mean that this thing don’t exist.
Human intelligence was separated personality. Result: …
domesticated nonhuman animals have their ” intelligence ” analyzed according to their ability to learn new rules.
Cognitive tests analyze the part ‘mechanical’, cognitive of the human, not their whole. Why*
Because the cognitive tests analyze the cognitive efficiency of the WORKER and not the general intelligence of the human being, including whether you like it or not, their moral reasoning.
Thanks to moral reasoning you prefer, good or bad, Rushton than Gould. If you had not a good judgment there via moral reasoning would you have chosen as the celebrated and popular Stephen Jay Gould than ”obscure” and hated Rushton, you would have adapted to the environment you are and have the respect of much of the academy.
The astute ” liberal ” or psychopaths use its handling capacity to adapt to the situation to take selfish advantage.
Supposed to be ” contrarian ” to the system is to be stupid, then you are contradicting your own concept-pet intelligence subconsciously suggesting that you’re a stupid person because you, instead of being adapting to the system, is walking to the subtly opposite direction.
whatever…
Supposed to be ” contrarian ” to the system is to be stupid, then you are contradicting your own concept-pet intelligence subconsciously suggesting that you’re a stupid person because you, instead of being adapting to the system, is walking to the subtly opposite direction.
When I say intelligence is the mental ability to adapt situations to your advantage, you can look at that from many perspectives. You value truth and morality, so for you, pursuing justice and science is to your advantage. It’s what gives you pleasure. Someone else might be more intelligent than you, but value celebrity and money. Someone might be even more intelligent still, and value lies, murder and sadism. Intelligence helps us understand complex moral dilemmas, but brilliant people can still be evil if they simply don’t care about others. They can still be irrational if they simply don’t care about the truth.
Intelligence is just a tool that gets people what they want. But what you want is determined by your emotions. So evolution selected humans to want food, shelter, resources, status, and sex, because these goals helped our genes survive, so even today, most people are obsessed with money, status, ethnic domination or sex, and use their intelligence to achieve these goals.
Only a few special people pursue knowledge, truth and justice, for their own sake. In some cases that’s because they’re so intelligent, they can question their primitive emotional impulses for money and status, but in many cases, it’s just because they were born with emotions that made them care more about these abstract ideals than they do about acquiring resources. From an evolutionary perspective, this might even be a disorder
The difference between you and I is I define intelligence as just a computer in the brain that figures out how to get what we want, while for you, people need to use their intelligence to pursue truth and justice to be truly smart.
I agree that smart people tend to be more objective and ethical, but I see that as a side effect of having a good mental computer, not as a part of intelligence itself.
”But historically there’s been a very clear distinction between emotions (that which feels, wants, and desires) and the intellect (that which thinks, knows, and understands).”
and**
and both is in constant interaction.
intuitive creative ideas seems are impossible to emerge from subconscious mind without emotion, period.
” In my opinion, the intellect is the part of the brain that problem solves (intelligence) while emotions are the problems that need to be solved.”
i like it.
BUT
i don’t think you’re really the right person to say it…
”So the term emotional intelligence is a bit like the term mental physical ability; it’s inherently ambiguous.”
”If you feel fear, your intelligence solves that problem by figuring out how to make you safe. Now in rare cases, you might have someone with a high IQ who has damage to the part of the brain that feel fear. This person will superficially appear to have an extremely low IQ, because he will stand in the middle of the road, not caring about all the cars that could kill him.”
and*
”Goleman looks at someone like this and thinks, he must not be very intelligent, despite his high IQ and invents the construct of emotional intelligence to explain his behavior. But the fearless person is NOT lacking in emotional intelligence, he’s lacking the emotional drive to safe his own life because he doesn’t fear it ending. From our fearful perspective, he has an inability to problem solve, but from his fearless perspective, there’s no problem to be solved.”
PP make a hard type of theory of mind in the Goleman mind just like a gypsy woman with its crystal ball and make this idiotic guessing….
”One of the biggest mistakes people make is assuming that if someone doesn’t solve the same problems most of us do, whether it’s making money, advancing a career, finding a mate, or simply saving our life, that therefore that person is a poor problem solver. But problems are subjective. If you lack the emotional wiring to feel anxiety about not surviving or succeeding, then by definition, it’s not a problem for you, so you will not solve it. IQ tests attempt to make problems objective by explicitly defining every item as a problem to be solved, thus allowing people with different incentive structures to be compared very accurately.”
Nope, dumb PP, iq tests measure skills and not how people use it…
iq is a culturally/scholastic cognitive test, a mental game, a greater mental game…
emotional intelligence (intra and interpersonal skills) can make a greater malignant manipulator or a greater diplomat…
and with other greater reverberation at macro-level…
what make nordic nations more rich, peaceful (by now) and equitable is exactly the use of emotional intelligence at macro social levels…
”So if someone has a high IQ, and they appear to be acting stupidly, chances are the behavior is smart on a level you don’t understand, because the high IQ person has already been objectively certified as a good problem solver.”
IQdiocracy become a new religion, thankuverumuch ”intelligent design”.
problem solver = worker.
people who solve problems may can’t be good to anticipate for them…
without wisdom a good problem solver can be also a good problem-creator.
”Of course, it’s also stupid to throw the baby out with the bath water just because some of Goleman’s ideas make no sense. He did use some tests that were innovative new measures of actual intelligence such as one where you had to throw a ring around a distant goal post. In order to win the game, you had to pick the most distant goal post that you could possibly succeed in ringing.”
”As Goleman explained to Oprah, “you want to set your goals high, but not so high that they exceed your reach.””
From nothing PP back to talk about their ”white rabit” / Oprah.
emotional intelligence (intra and interpersonal skills) can make a greater malignant manipulator or a greater diplomat…
Then use the terms intra-personal and inter-personal intelligence, as Howard Gardner did.
The term emotional intelligence means more than you say it means, according to the person who coined the term.
intuitive creative ideas seems are impossible to emerge from subconscious mind without emotion, period.
What an unbelievably stupid argument. So because emotions were needed to achieve creativity, emotions are now part of intelligence. That’s like saying because hands were needed to create technology, hands are part of intelligence.
You simply were born without the ability to think logically.
I don’t have time to deal with your learning disabilities.
This is blog, not a special ed class.
”Then use the terms intra-personal and inter-personal intelligence, as Howard Gardner did.”
aaaaaand**
”The term emotional intelligence means more than you say it means, according to the person who coined the term.”
nope, Goleman, as a good jews against racist iq in the 80′, 90’s, coined and used emotional intelligence AGAINST iq,
if you have a good memory, i doubt, i never propose to use emotional or ”multiple” intelligence theories against ”racist iq tests”.
but most hbbs self-declared geniuses think that is not possible in this world emotional or ”multiple” intelligences live together in the same space/time than iq… in other words, you guys tend to think just like most of mainstream psychology community to do, above the high-brow, no chance.
”What an unbelievably stupid argument. So because emotions were needed to achieve creativity, emotions are now part of intelligence.”
personal opinion…
”That’s like saying because hands were needed to create technology, hands are part of intelligence.”
one of your inumerable weaknesses, make analogies is one of them.
RETARDED
most of thinkers & geniuses of the past say that
higher creativity levels
what you never will know personally in your life
is intrinsically related to the obsession/passion for certain/specific subjects.
creative intuitive ideas require certain type of mental state, emotionally charged, deep consciousness about the world…
you are dumber than i thought…
”You simply were born without the ability to think logically.”
nervass
hihihihihi
that’s the problem with the world
people like you are absolutely self-confident, at implicit psychotic levels.
”I don’t have time to deal with your learning disabilities.
This is blog, not a special ed class.”
you’re offending
– melo
– that guy i don’t remember the name
when you’re nervous you say pretty morally wrong things
and
you want to pass as a ”higher aiqiu morally correct” person saying you will vote for ”green party”
ridiculous
is intrinsically related to the obsession/passion for certain/specific subjects.
You’re just defining intelligence as whatever mental traits cause creative achievement which is a very low level of analysis. Most psychologists would disagree, saying intelligence is only one of the mental variables creative achievers show. The others are personality.
you’re offending
– melo
– that guy i don’t remember the name
Melo and you are both self-described autistics, but i don’t think you’re autistic at all. Just the opposite. I’m getting a schizophrenia vibe from your comments.
– that guy i don’t remember the name
akimetti
hi it’s me, animekitty
made a long post, see bellow
Fpe Jesus
You even know what schizophrenia really is
You’re pathetic bastard
Unfortunately for you my major mental problems is that I’m to good to live surrounded by beast of all types included international ones, 😐
Liar and pedantic pp.
If I have any “intellectual disabilities” I will no had shame about something I didn’t and just a asshole as you to deceive people about your supposed good intentions.
You sound hysterical
deceive people about your supposed good intentions.
When did i deceive people about my good intentions. You’re the one who thinks he’s morally superior to everyone
Get over yourself.
It’s not my fault i’m morally clever and because obvious things…
”sound histerical” just if you hear it…
”Animekitty”
thank you for remember to me your correct nickname.
You defend criminals, for example
relativizing morality is something that works very well with people who have moral deficits.
Im sure the psychologists et al who say morality is relative have a huge moral deficit.
What is so hard to understand that what one culture fund moral and right another won’t?
Santo, your opinion is irrelevant
Melo
Ok genetically inferior
Your personal opinions because arguments you no have is irrelevant because it is boring, predictable and nonsense
You still is here??
None care about your mainstreamed”opinions”
It’s what happen with many aspiea pedantically retarded
Irrealist
You’re in the same mediocre level than PP. Very good in chrystallized knowledge. Seems many people who are impressive in chrystallized knowledge can deceive other people about your real reasoning capacity. You just is not smart in math like PP. In the rest you are identical. Same scientific-like texts. But when you have to confront other people in debates to show your fluid skills you show squalid fluid/CREATIVE skills.
Boring, predictable and yes 1000% self confident.
”You’re just defining intelligence as whatever mental traits cause creative achievement which is a very low level of analysis.”
you live in your own world, PP in the wonderland,
i don’t know where, how, why you understand it…
i’m not defining intelligence, i’m talking about creativity, period.
you don’t have mirror in your house**
you all the time is making low level analysis in your blog, do you can’t see it**
” Most psychologists would disagree, saying intelligence is only one of the mental variables creative achievers show. The others are personality.”
i don’t understand this sentence…
There you go again , ranting incoherently about nonsense, you dont even know how to write proper english
Many people can understand my english by now
this is not a excuse nor prove
i have showed knowledge about uncommon words,
subtletlies
what the roboto-melaux here don’t born with.
whatever, know or not to write in english is not pure reasoning capacity itself, what is pure reasoning capacity is TO THINK
what your disordered mind no born with it
you no have nothing interesting, wrongly or correctly interesting to say,
accept it
and now, you are commenting half of time just to offend me,
you’re pathetic RETARDED, what retarded people are, retarded
this semantic manipulation
‘oh no, don’t tell retarded, tell autistic…”
the same thing, specially for types as you
and you know, you are truly retarded not because autism itself but because the common depressing combination between high functioniting autism and alarming intelectual pedantism rates / absolute lack of humility.
when i start to show few discordance about your personal opinions you start to attack me indiscriminately, loser you are and always will be.
i can’t, believe in me, i can’t waste any second of my life ”debating” with you
if i continue to comment here, please, despise my comments,
has been easy for me despise your boring comments.
There’s no excuse for your shitty grammar. Mine aint perfect but it’s a hell of a lot better than yours.
“your boring comments.”
Most people scroll past your comments, because they lack any kind of critical thinking or relevancy to the topic at hand.
there is a excuse for it and i already talked about,
i don’t want to learn ”english” by now, period.
you should to know why i don’t want
i’m obsessed with some things, my attention is predominantly directed to this things…
you should to know why
but you too mediocre even to know what should be familiar for you
so sorry robot melaux
but i don’t care what you have to say, simple as that
you already showed your imbecility before
i don’t care if most people here despise my comments
i know who i’m and i know very few people deserve my sincere considerations, you’re not this people
among all people here you’re the most irritating creature, you’re incredibly pedant, arrogant and by what***
by nothing
you have no insight, no great observation, nothing
based on this logic you must reduce your ego size but not, too irrational defective robot to understand this basic things, fundamental things
but don’t worry retarded, very soon i will definitely combat my addiction with this blog
the next post, again about oprah, was symptomatic
the only reason i’m still here is what i already talked but i will find a new way…
i hope soon
”Big brained Oprah replied by saying “I have a different philosophy. Reach for the stars, and if you hit the moon in between, you’re still up there.”
“Well Oprah,” he said “your reach is really really far. You’ve done amazingly well.””
god, god, god
make me a good boy today
PP can be a mentally disordered person, it’s a ”sin” laugh about it….
i want to help you, you need some help, i’m talking seriously.
I will not read the ”my teacher told me…” saga again…
Pumpkin Person: “Emotional intelligence is a vague incoherent concept introduced by Harvard scholar Daniel Goleman. Blogger race realist has described it as a hybrid of IQ and the best personality traits. I would say it’s a hybrid of general intelligence (g), Theory of Mind, self-awareness, and the best personality traits.”
Even though you think the term “emotional intelligence” is an incoherent concept, you have well defined it. Here is where I would be.
general intelligence (g), 155
Theory of Mind, 140
self-awareness 150
By your definition of intelligence being the ability to “take any situation and turning it to your advantage”, which is problem-solving, emotional intelligence is good for something. And that would be above abstraction, meta-cognition. Why am I choosing this problem over all the problems I could be solving. Emotional intelligence is about relevance. The meaning of life, life purpose. Adaptation is about flexibility. There are multiple ways to reach a goal but some are more optimal than others. Environmental goals are usually external which is Extraversion. Internal goals require Introversion. IQ tests are extroversion. Emotional intelligence is in-between. It is the mediation between inside and outside. Quiet contemplation melds into the subject the object to be manipulated in the problem in parallel. Parallel processing happens in stillness because noise is being overwhelmed by all variables involved. Everything involved needs to be absorbed into the subject and reflected upon. Oprah reflects allot. Reflection increases reaction time because it allows you to build internal models of reality. No external stimuli is required for pure contemplation because all reference frames are internal. Theory of mind understands motivation and reflection extrapolates all possible motivations. Later they are recognized externally. Authors understand their stories by what the character wants because the character is modeled inside them and they can understand what they will do in any situation. The same for real people. (g) recognize patterns so both reflection and observation work with (g). Self-awareness is knowing what you will do by where you distinguish the boundaries of self. Knowing how a person acts is necessarily having them are part of yourself. Same for any technology you have understanding of. All actions stem from understanding consequences. All perception is recognition of consequences. All perception is yourself.
Creativity is taking control of your perceptions to make what could be of all possibilities. Your mind is a virtual reality where you create just by thought. Abstract intelligence on IQ tests is in keeping a higher unseen causality in the subconscious EQ, parallel rules that most be followed. IQ are the rules and EQ is parallelism.
I agree ToM & probably self-awareness are part of intelligence
My problem with emotional intelligence is it often also includes non-cognitive traits like impulse control, anxiety etc
intelligence is the mental ability to adapt, but impulse control & anxiety are not abilities, thus they can’t be part of the mental ability to adapt, which is not to deny their adaptive value
other repetitive parrot
a lies repeated thousand times become a true**
just for tards…
Intelligence IS NOT fundamentally or specially mental ability to adapt…
what i ALREADY talked in the last text
ALL smarter people have something in common
specially about their strenghts, they tend to judge ”correctly’..
correct judgment is underlying, universal among intelligent and intelligence
capacity to adapt is not universal among the smartest or smarter of all types,
what make Akimetti, me, you and any other be considered like that is exactly our capacity to judge correctly, generally at specific way/our personal strenghts.
period.
”impulse control & anxiety are not abilities”
it’s not possible!!!
impulse control is a skill but every skill is primordially inborn, what make impulse control difficult to be learned, at priore, is because psychological trait *seems* to be more intrinsic than pure cognitive trait, thanks to the culture can be improved.
but anxiety**
impulse control is in completely different category than anxiety
and you put in the same basket
just like to say
”impulse control & depression are not abilities”
”I agree … ToM & probably self-awareness are part of intelligence”
your short memory make you forget that you already agree with me that self-awareness is not just part of intelligence but a great part of (human–level) intelligence.
”My problem with emotional intelligence is it often also includes non-cognitive traits like impulse control, anxiety etc”
you have a infinit excuses to deny emotional intelligence in the same way race-denialists have infinit excuses to deny the existence of human races & human racial inborn differences.
Yes i know i agreed with you on self-awareness but I’m staring to question it
Impulse control might be a skill, but you have no way of knowing who has more control vs who just has weaker impulses
It’s easy to control an impulse to smoke if you don’t like nicotine
In the same way is easy to solve math problems if you enjoy to do it and have natural talent to do it.
You have deficits to understand this conceptual verbal stuff, a very humanities stuff
i accept perfectly for example the over-sexual identification make by humanities, specially american humanities.
this seems ”old chinese” for most of pure-logical/pragmatic/utilitary mind that is predominant among hbds.
leftist mind is more open to ambiguity, and i’m genuinely more ”center” based on this ideological spectrum, i’m a mix logical/white-black thinking with ambiguous/complex thinking.
a just one visceral example
many-to-most of hbds and ”engineers&economists” mind-types don’t give a shutz to the poetry or art.
they can appreciate superficially but they tend to be too mechanicist to really appreciate it.
existentially realists tend to engage in this kind of, at priore, recreative mental tasks.
what i already talked here you have visible strenghts and you’re not predominantly ”dumb”, if this people really exist.
but all of us will be dumb in something, average in other thing and smart in that thing.
we are two different species because i’m too much to the divergent/speculative/fluid ”smart” and you are more to the chrystallized part, your knowledge you seems have developed about psychometrics i never will be and i can’t, i’m too lazy, too vagabond, too joie de vivre, instinctive and less chrystallized smart than most of hbd folks… but i’m fine being myself.
”Impulse control might be a skill, but you have no way of knowing who has more control vs who just has weaker impulses”
why not*
What? Impulse control is not an ability? Yes it is pp. Impulse control is like self control. For instance like with dieting. Using self control for other things will sap yoyr overall self control having you break your diet and eat since we use self control daily and it gets sapped. The diet is the first thing to be broken.
”I disagree because if IQ were intrinsically correlated extroversion so will east asians tend to score higher*”
WHY and not will
”By your definition of intelligence being the ability to “take any situation and turning it to your advantage”, which is problem-solving, emotional intelligence is good for something. And that would be above abstraction, meta-cognition. Why am I choosing this problem over all the problems I could be solving.”
emotional intelligence is pretty important to the self-knowledge that is pretty important for everything we to do.
” Emotional intelligence is about relevance. The meaning of life, life purpose.”
Also, emotional intelligence have diverse goals as well happen with intelligence itself.
emotional intelligence become very important to the rationality —- wisdom.
pure logical people tend to be less emotionally intelligent but rational tend to be comparatively more emotionally intelligent than pure-logical/pragmatic people.
pure logical people is like calculators,
just look for PP and Irrealist
they
deny emotional intelligence
deny relevance of emotions
and the second still deny openly the relevance of the ethics in science
they are not psychopaths because they still have some affective empathy.
”Adaptation is about flexibility. There are multiple ways to reach a goal but some are more optimal than others. Environmental goals are usually external which is Extraversion. Internal goals require Introversion. IQ tests are extroversion.”
I disagree because if IQ were intrinsically correlated extroversion so will east asians tend to score higher** and seems there are overrepresentation of introverts among highest iq**
extraversion is correlated with basic/practical/mundane emotional intelligence, the ordinary perceptual-social level.
Most people who score higher in iq tests tend to neutralize their emotions and concentrates what they are doing.
iq is like cognitive empathy, search for pattern without emotional influence.
creativity tend to be the otherwise, with great emotional influence.
”Emotional intelligence is in-between. It is the mediation between inside and outside.”
also it is.
” Quiet contemplation melds into the subject the object to be manipulated in the problem in parallel. Parallel processing happens in stillness because noise is being overwhelmed by all variables involved. Everything involved needs to be absorbed into the subject and reflected upon.”
higher concentration skills make east asians better iq-takers than blacks.
seems multitask correlate negatively with iq scores
and i thought, tend to correlate positively with creativity scores.
”Oprah reflects allot.”
Oprah reflects about your useless and rich life of ”celebrity”.
”Reflection increases reaction time because it allows you to build internal models of reality. No external stimuli is required for pure contemplation because all reference frames are internal.”
everything we do tend to be strongly instinctive or inborn-activated.
just look for yourself, what is the sentient effort you are doing writing this text**
very few.
born smart”er” is just like to be lucky, for some perspectives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca
Some people are too vulnerable and too unlucky.
”Theory of mind understands motivation and reflection extrapolates all possible motivations.”
at priore, but most people tend to be just partially empathetic, i mean, they tend to put in the place of other, but not in the skin of other, as if they were the other.
people feel empathy with other when they feel in the place of other but just in their own skin, the same than self-projection, selfish empathy.
”(g) recognize patterns so both reflection and observation work with (g). Self-awareness is knowing what you will do by where you distinguish the boundaries of self. Knowing how a person acts is necessarily having them are part of yourself. ”
exactly.
”Same for any technology you have understanding of. All actions stem from understanding consequences. All perception is recognition of consequences. All perception is yourself.”
or good judgments
”Creativity is taking control of your perceptions to make what could be of all possibilities. Your mind is a virtual reality where you create just by thought. Abstract intelligence on IQ tests is in keeping a higher unseen causality in the subconscious EQ, parallel rules that most be followed. IQ are the rules and EQ is parallelism.”
iq tests are the best mental games we have, still a mental games.
i don’t deny the relevance of iq tests, i avoid and criticize the over-emphasis hbd crowd tend to do with iq tests despising subsequently all of other relevant psychological concepts, just like a iq-filter, this is wrong filter.
perfect sentence explain perfectly the difference between a ordinary person, even those who high scores in iq tests, and some who are a potentially ”bright” person…
”The test of a first-order intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still maintain the ability to function.”
F. Scott Fitzgerald
”I disagree because if IQ were intrinsically correlated extroversion so will east asians tend to score higher*”
WHY and not will
sheet
oprah’s head is no bigger than leslie jones’s. and jonese’s head isn’t that big.
oprah’s head is no bigger than mike tyson’s.
and tyson’s head was much smaller than ali’s or louis’s.
Meaningless photo. All their heads are at different angles. And Oprah’s head size is in the length. Her measured head circumference is +6.3 SD for a U.S. woman
her measured head circumference?
dear God peepee is autistic.
so oprah is like alien?
so oprah is like alien?
When it comes to cranial capacity she might as well be. Why the fuck else would I spend so much time posting about her. The fact that the biggest brained member of her race and gender is arguably the most successful member, is perhaps the greatest discovery in the history of anthropology, and I made it when I was just a kid.
If there was any justice I would win the Nobel prize.
” The fact that the biggest brained member of her race and gender is arguably the most successful member, is perhaps the greatest discovery in the history of anthropology, and I made it when I was just a kid.
If there was any justice I would win the Nobel prize.”
Sarcasm or delusions of grandeur?
Don’t get me wrong PP, love the blog but the Oprah obsession is…. meh.My fave posts of yours are on IQ and evolution.
Sarcasm or delusions of grandeur?
Neither, but I’m biased of course. Most people think their research is important or they wouldn’t be doing it. But understanding that bias, there’s an incredibly beautiful symmetry in the biggest brained member of an entire race and gender, being the most successful member of an entire race and gender (at the peak of her career).
Don’t get me wrong PP, love the blog but the Oprah obsession is….
As an HBDer, you should love the theory because it so graphically symbolizes the correlation between brain size and real world adaptive behavior, as measured by the most universal measures of success (money and influence). Rushton got it right away and thought it was “absolutely fascinating”.
It doesn’t mean you have to like Oprah. Some of the most evil people in history were big brained and adaptable.
https://ioneglobalgrind.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/14653265120408.jpg?w=1024&h=827
trump’s head is bigger than oprah’s.
http://www.wbls.com/sites/g/files/exi701/f/styles/large_730/public/article-images-featured/429266-66316.jpg?itok=fRT2D18q
finally a picture with her hair pulled back to show her SMALL head.
oprah is closer to the camera yet her head is still smaller than kimmel’s.
oprah has a SMALL head.
Even kimmel himself was shocked by how huge Oprah’s head is.
Your photo is meaningless because kimmel is showing the largest part of his head (the profile)
If they stood nose to nose, Oprah would crush him because her head is so much LONGER and length multiplies by width & height creating incredible cranial capacity
Her hair was pulled back here too, yet her cranium is quadruple the other lady’s:
Kimmel’s head could not do that
those are two different photos superimposed fucktard.
your autism and IQ = 40 and oprah mental illness is very tiresome.
This is why I think you might be on the schizophrenic spectrum. A conspiracy to super impose photos to make Oprah’s head look big?
oprah’s head is average for her race, gender, and height.
“the largest part of his head”?
gibberish peepee-tard.
if kimmel ever commented on the size of oprah’s head it was because she asked him to.
More schizo talk. Why the hell would Oprah ask anyone to comment on the size of her head? Head size is not a socially desirable trait. Nobody WANTS people to think they have a big head, just the opposite. Here’s someone who became suicidal over their large head:
http://www.teenhut.net/thread/33953-why-is-my-head-so-big/
People exaggerate their IQ, height, income, education and wealth, because those are all socially desired traits, but very few people exaggerate their head size.
Oprah’s head size comes up because people want to offer her clothing as a gift (T-shirts and hats) as a way of welcoming her to towns.
“Will it fit my big ol’ head?” she asks.
When people doubt her head is superhuman, she just turns to the side and there’s always an audible gasp from the audience.
oprah’s head is average for her race, gender, and height.
The only way Oprah’s head could be average for her height would be if she were over ten feet tall.
“Your photo is meaningless because kimmel is showing the largest part of his head (the profile)”
Quoth peepee, immediately following said comment with a picture of Oprah’s profile contrasted with some random’s frontal shot.
Classy.
Kimmel and Oprah are both showing comparable amounts of profile anyway.
peepee is showing her autism again.
it’s not a conspiracy fucktard.
it’s TOTALLY OBVIOUS from the picture.
who’s the pinhead in the picture?
i’ll prove it to you.
her head looks big in some pictures because of her hairstyle, head shape, and high hairline.
that is it, appears that her head continues up beyond her hairline, but it doesn’t.
her hairline is at the top of her head.
like this:
Solid observation.
Is there data on oprah’s head size? I mean i can buy that her skull is big for a female, or even abnormally elongated but in terms of absolute brain size it isn’t really that big, at least from physical observation.
She’s stated several times that it’s 25.25 inches around. I looked at military data and that’s 6.33 SD above the mean, which means she arguably has the largest female cranium on the planet, given that most women live in the developing world and don’t reach their genetic potential.
so…if Blacks have lower average capacity, and Oprah has the largest for her gender in the world, could it imply that the Blacks have a larger SD of cranial capacities?
then she’s LYING!
No celebrity lies about having a huge head. A high IQ? Yes. But big head? Never. Not a socially desired trait, especially not in women. Did Gene Siskel lie too when he claimed his hat maker was astonished by how big Oprah’s head is.
Watch The Colour Purple. There’s a seam at the back of Oprah’s head where they had to sew two wigs together to fit her head.
I agree with oprahs reach for the stars philosophy also bros I would totally fuck the shit outa Oprah I mean look at that rack👀👀👀👀 are you kidding me. The cosmetic surgery is real in this one.
Plastic surgery is a funny thing.
Da fuq? Im down with the brown but jeez dude.
Spasms 😋
Also PP, Oprah has struggled with her weight her whole life. Low IQ is correlated highly with obesity.
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/06/19/obesity-and-intelligence/
I really don’t think she’s as intelligent as you make her out to be. She just has a horde of zombie followers, kinda like the snake oil salesmen Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz.
she obviously takes estrogen that’s why her weight is in all the right places and her face seems so young in addition to the cosmetic procedures of course
Oprah really isn’t that smart. Your estimate of her IQ is easily 2 SDs off.
In terms of high profile black women with high intelligence, Condi Rice would fit this description. Her interests include Classical Music and French, which are atypical non-black endeavors. She also received her PhD at the age 26, during the 1980s, at a time, when higher education was still rigorous in America.
Oprah seems like another black woman in comparison!
I like Condi Rice. She’s smart, but nowhere near Oprah level. She just made a really good token for the Bush administration because she was one of the very few articulate, highly educated, attractive, black female conservatives with foreign policy experience.
By contrast, Oprah’s the most talented person in the history of television:
Who cares if Oprah is talented on TV? Plenty of low IQ b-ball players are talented with their sport.
You always seem to equate money with IQ, which blacks demonstrate that this is indeed a fact, because most of them are poor.
Again, Dr. Rice received a PhD at the age of 26 during the 1980s, tells you a lot about her intelligence for a black person.
A talk show host does not require exceptional IQ. Charisma is needed, and one could make a case that Condi Rice does not have the kind of charisma that Oprah has. But Oprah’s shows are for a lower IQ demographic.
No job REQUIRES a high IQ, but nationally syndicated talk show hosts are probably one of the highest IQ occupations, because the field is so competitive, improvisational, lucrative, self-actualizing and influential. And Oprah appeals to a much more upscale demographic than other daytime talk shows. Even Condi Rice herself was an Oprah fan.
Charisma is not enough to be a talk show host. Elvis and Sarah Palin are extremely charismatic but would make terrible talk show hosts. It often takes TONS of intelligence to entertain millions of people on a daily basis with witty comebacks, interesting common sense comments, and creative facial expressions. Hosting a talk show is the most complex and dynamic of art forms.
Entertainment is indeed self actualizing for those in it, and they are a lot more lucrative than most non-entertainment fields, especially in America, because lower IQ people are easier to entertain. America ranks in the late 20s of nations in terms of IQ. That’s pretty low for a major industrialized nation, so entertainment is very lucrative in America, and given its large population.
I find it hard to believe that talk show hosts are more intelligent than college professors. I think we are measuring a combination of talent and IQ.
I’m looking for the stats for Oprah’s website:
https://www.quantcast.com/oprah.com#trafficCard
I would assume the viewers of her show are of a similar demographic. Mostly women, mostly older women, with an equal amount of black and White women. Income levels of her audiences suggest $100K and less, in fields like non-profit and business administration. Nothing reveals the intelligence of her viewers, but they aren’t the types you would find in the Jerry Springer show.
She ended her talk show in 2011, so the website reflects the audience of her cable network which is much more geared to blacks, with shows by Tyler Perry & Iyanla Vanzent.
By contrast her daytime talk show was aimed at mostly white suburban women who were interested in new age spirituality, book clubs & self-actualization. This demographic probably averages somewhere around 115 IQ while the fans of other daytime shows might average as low as 90
“while the fans of other daytime shows might average as low as 90”
Hmmm. Polarizing…. Why could this be….?
So why do we studyGreek mythology, PP?
Why do we study Women’s Studies, Africano studies and Afrocentrism?
Because they make references to those characters in many books and articles. Not knowing who they are impedes your reading comprehension. For example, an article might say, the Presidential candidates dishonesty proved to be an Achilles’ heel. They’re part of our vocabulary and general knowledge.
ok, my point was about the same
People still study greek mythology because western civilization born in the classical Greece, and because human myths are entertaining when it is not taking literally.
BTW, a real size of cranial part of a head can not be just seen. I had a couple funny cases with intelligent ppl, who look small-headed (and who believed that they are) but after measuring it, the sizes were really big. It happened due to hidden volume in an occipital aria or/and because of a height of the head
yeah like this http://archure.net/p/Sapiens_neanderthal_comparison_CC_hairymuseummatt.jpg
How did you measure their cranial capacity?
)) it was fun. solid books ( I needed something flat and not flexible), a pencil, paper…width, length, height. ..then using the formula from here, you know this link http://michaelwferguson.blogspot.ru/p/blog-page_9997.html
look how far her head go back here http://21stcenturyradio.com/news/Oprah/SherandWinfrey.jpg
The difference between 6sd and 0sd is only about 4 inches and is not that obvious from most photos. It’s probably more obvious in person
How much of that do you think the fro is?
here’s a clip here where her hair is shorter … look how far back her head goes https://youtu.be/l1Az1RRCeLk?t=45
She got fired from that job partly because all her hair fell out, and no one would could locate a wig big enough to fit her head and they didn’t want a bald woman anchoring the news. Eventually they stuck her on a low budget morning talk show to get rid of her and run out her contract. Best thing that ever happened to her.
LIES!
said peepee.
not very far.
she has a below average sized head for a human being.
No one here is my sock puppet.
You’re just an extreme contrarian.
whether or not i’m an extreme contrarian, oprah still has a small head.
thank you for a practical comment on this subject.
Anyway, circumference is just one part of the equation. The actual structure of the brain itself matters – the density of the folding, etc. Lissencephaly (the absesne of folding ) results in profound retardation, so one can surmise there is a positive correlation between the degree of convolutions of the sulci and gyri and IQ. More convulsions means more surface area
Absolutely. Brain size only explains 12% of the variance in IQ, and head size is only a crude proxy for brain size. But people obsess over head size because it’s such a CONCRETE representation of intelligence. Same with money. Love the concreteness of the size of your head determining the size of your house, even though I know it’s a very simple minded way of thinking.
1. Grey enlightenment is correct that when converting to circumference, a few inches in how broad or deep the head is, makes all the difference.
2. He/she is also correct that folds and such on the brain itself make the difference.
3. It’s been measured.
4. the fact that Oprah has gotten so rich doing ‘silly’ things may actually be even more of a testament to her IQ.
PP- theoretically, would, say a Black person with a very large head circumference automatically have a spherical head, like an Asian (just because their head is bigger)?
Or will it retain their race’s (average) shape?
I’m a Caucasian with a +4 SD head size among Caucasians (24.5 Inches), and I’ve had trouble with the graduation hats, because my head is spherical shaped, like an Asian (I assume they are manufactured for Caucasians)?
I was just wondering if this is typical. My father’s parents were Latin American immigrants, so it could be that I do have some mongoloid ancestry.
PP- theoretically, would, say a Black person with a very large head circumference automatically have a spherical head, like an Asian (just because their head is bigger)?
Probably not, but a black person with a very large cranial capacity (measured directly) would likely have a more spherical head.
so, slightly more spherical but still keeping their racial shape?
I think they retain their shape, even at large head circumferences, because you can get a huge HC just by having a very long head.
PP, what do you think it is about your blog that attracts the special breed of commenters?
Everyone here is pretty chill, except mugabe and santo.
I think it’s funny how Santo chimps out on me for my views on morality.
point of views for the KIDS here have literal consequences
it’s not just
”i think ethics is a problem in the science”
you are supporting obviously potentially bad consequences in the literal/real world.
you’re pathetic human parrot,
you should have some/minimal self-knowledge about what you are doing, what you are thinking, but not,
hbd attrack one of the wisely dumbest people in the world
again,
they think
”i know human races exist, most people don’t, most people are manipulable, so…. i’m master, i’m very intelligent”
maybe but not
it’s just the homework,
it’s like idiocracy,
if most humans are very below average in intelligence so the high functioning normie will be a genius**
there is two types of comparison
intra-comparison
and
inter-comparison
some people think is impossible to compare without other refference
i don’t think so
it’s possible to compare a single one thing
you don’t need to have mountains to know what is the plain.
so hbds think,
”we are just like the protagonist of the idiocracy movie… so, we are above-average, god-syndrome just because we do our homework”
melo no have any interesting thing to say here, i don’t know why he still comment, for what*
since i don’t know when, beggining of the year, and he don’t have any interesting and correct thing to say, now he is just appear to attack me.
“melo no have any interesting thing to say here, i don’t know why he still comment, for what*”
right, well when you can actually form a sentence then maybe your nonsense can be taken seriously. Until then, you will remain the laughingstock of this blog.
it’s a sensitive topic…………….
what else would it be?
what I find most odd is that the Nationalists are the most vitriolic anti-HBDers (Mugabe and Santo).
But of course 99% of their rhetoric is unequivocal nonsense.
JS can at least present himself like he’s civilized but all he has is anecdotal evidence.
Afrosapiens was the smart anti-hereditarian.
and Melo, but Afrosapiens spent a lot more time doing research and had a VERY high IQ.
HBD really doesn’t back “nationlism” per se, at least on more in-depth levels.
Only in that it does confirm race exists, and that it can group people.
I’d figure nationalists would be big with HBDers. Most every nationalist I’ve seen was an HBDer. How many anti-HBD people are here?
I’d say I’m a reasonable nationalist. I don’t think ‘pure’ countries are possible in this day and age and will settle for 90 percent.
HBD does back nationalism in my opinion. GST, etc. People do best with similar others, both genotypically and phenotypically. Check out Putnam’s research, which ironically backs up Rushton’s GST.
lol both Mugabe and Swank are way smarter than afrosapiens, who did good research but wasn’t that smart.
Even Santo could be smarter than him. Maybe.
Will,
first, i’m not nationalist,
second, afrosapiens as happen with PP and Irrealist, whatever, with many cognitively smart people are CHRYSTALLIZED smart, ”book-smart”,
but
they are able to
find and follow correct assumptions**
Not
Afrosapiens dedicate your life to study enviromentalist lies,
better vocabulary*
higher cognitive skills*
maybe, seems he does
but he no have wisdom at least to follow correct paths
he seems like James Flynn,
most people here think he is a incontestable genius
really**
their only grreat discovery was ”Flynn Effect” but what it really is**
still misterious, nebulous and Flynn can’t explain why Flynn Effect really is
and worst
he’s leftist,
so half of your brain is contaminated with half-truth…
or
it’s what he showed for ”uss”
PP and Irrealist are very similar one each other,
Irrealist look better with their ”looking-scientific” posts/texts,
PP when s’he is not talking about your white rabbit/Oprah or trying to think in the very divergent way, tend to produce good texts showing what your chrystallized skills has memorized: specially psychometrics.
But they are able to
find and follow a predominance of correct assumptions and always self-actualizing**
not, they are dependent what other people of your group think, they seems don’t try to think for themselves.
so PP deny the existence of emotional intelligence, not exactly because s’he investigate itself this subject, but because s’he buy delivery-pre-conclusions about it, namely hbd and psychometric opinions.
Define me what is HBD
what HBD believes
– supremacy of iq in psychology**
– normativity is absolutely right**
– jews are just too smart, this explain everything about their super power**
etc
i’m not anti-hbd in the same way BugABY is…
all the time ”we” are talking about subtleties
this differentiate high-order thinkers from avg-to-lower-order thinkers.
”lol both Mugabe and Swank are way smarter than afrosapiens, who did good research but wasn’t that smart.
Even Santo could be smarter than him. Maybe.”
BUGaby,
i don’t know why i should be waste my time with you(s).
please don’t use my name to say shittism
only if i authorize you
i already told why you’re a clever silly is not**
personal opinions and ad hominem any idiot can do
the great watershed is
have sustainable arguments
i don’t think you have…
Swank is a CLASSICAL smart-liberal variety, classical,
again,
most important than have great cognitive skills is have a very good compass to navigate in the world full of facts and factoids, made in human-world, and Swank showed she/he no have this compass…
The degree of altruism we have for co-ethnics is largely cultural. The Cultural left line of “more diversity within groups than between them” is certainly true for some phenotypes (like IQ 😃). Therefore biological bias is very slight and culture/other factors are primary. I.e. The French and English brutalizing each other for centuries, as well as some Italian kingdoms doing the same (Medicis, etc). Although a minor bias is genetic. The just complete manufacturing of what is a genetic group and what is not, and playing hookie with the IQ data (Asians), to shill for Nationalism is what gets tiring.
Humans don’t have any genetic ESP. We evolved to hate people who look or act differently than us because typically, those people have different genes. You could have an identical twin, and if he was raised Palestinian and you were raised Jewish, and you didn’t know you were twins because you dressed differently, you might hate each other despite being genetically identical, because genetic differences are detected through proxies like cultural differences, and sometimes those proxies are very inaccurate.
You also have to keep in mind that there are at least two major variables that predict if groups will fight, and these variables are NEGATIVELY correlated with each other. The first is genetic difference and the other is geographic proximity. We hate people who are different because they threaten our genes, but we also hate people who are geographically close, because they threaten our more immediate genes by threatening our territory, even though people who are close are genetically quite similar.
So to make a long story short, I think genetic similarity strongly predicts racial tension once you control for proximity, but I haven’t done a systematic analysis so I could be wrong.
“but Afrosapiens spent a lot more time doing research and had a VERY high IQ.”
Im not anti hereditarian at all, I just don’t buy into alt reich nationalist bullshit. I do research quite a bit but not about psychometris, or even modern social phenomena itself, I don’t care what causes IQ more I just know that environment and genetics both play a part, in all reality i only agree with HBD I dont really have an interest in it, the only thing that strikes my curiosity is the evolutionary history of these differences we see. my passion is anthropology and this bog is the closest thing i got(besides evoanth) to discuss human evolution
PP- yeah, the Geographic proximity is an interesting point.
It seems if there is nothing real (actual genetics) people just make stuff up to hate (perhaps because what they hate is associated with different genes), which ties into Melo’s comment.
The Alt-Reich has an average IQ that would freeze water.
They obviously have very low verbal IQs in that they can’t tell race based on facial features, AT ALL.
They are incoherent (Jared Taylor is a ‘nationalist’ who praises NE Asia’s ethnocentric policies, yet spends half his time in Japan, and his followers are too low IQ to catch on).
“Muslim is a race” 😉
Part of the problem with HBD is that many bloggers are obviously just shilling for such a cause. There’s no checks and balances because research is not done in mainstream academia, and therefore they can just spew WN nonsense and get away with it. You have to be careful.
spatial IQs, I mean.
“which ties into Melo’s comment.”
Which one?
Will,
if you want to make correct criticisms to the alt-right you must throw away his unrealistic assumptions about the alt right.
First it is important to define what is Alt Right, as well as between the leftist zombies, there are different sub-groups with different levels of cognitive ability and moral successes.
Alt Right together a highly heterogeneous group, with common to very intelligent people.
In terms of cognitive ability we first have the Stormfront, then Amren / Majority Rights, Occidental Observer, then we have the HBD and Counter Currents.
I do not know if someone who has a profile on Stormfront have the habit of reading texts in Counter Currents. Surely there must be people who like to visit different blogs and websites, like me for example, even because of boredom. But it also has the faithful readers and they can tell more about the site or blog they read than most eclectic and energetic types.
>Stormfront
>cognitive ability
What are you smoking?
I only ‘acted up’ with Marsha Murphy.
That ‘Jews are coming to kill us’ stuff is a fantasy.
And I’m cynical about Jews and our foreign policy.
Well people who have poblems interacting with others are naturally drawn to the internet. Of these, the most extreme will be drawn to taboo topics like HBD. Of these, the most deviant will be drawn to very sensational HBD blogs like this one. Add to all the fact that I seldom moderate comments, except for Mugabe, who’s like the leatherface of HBD. Totally wild, aggressive and out of control.
I’m just a prole…
so could you explain to me why the Nationalists hate HBD so much?
It lends itself to nationalism in that ‘yes, we are just a little bit different’…?
(although many times the ‘White men are superior’ type HBDers are terrible at interpreting evidence…they probably think ‘2+2=5’)
PP … related to your post:
Jordan B Peterson (a psychology professor at the University of Toronto) on Quora – “There is no such thing as EQ. Let me repeat that: “There is NO SUCH THING AS EQ.” LINK @
https://www.quora.com/What-is-more-beneficial-in-life-a-high-EQ-or-IQ/answer/Jordan-B-Peterson?srid=aMxV
Thanks for the link.
Oy vey i was right.
Peterson has a lot of great stuff on Quora, youtube and around the web. He is definitely a real talker and not afraid to call out BS. Plus he’s Canadian so I’m sure PP likes him >_<
oprah’s head may also look bigger, because she has no neck and narrow shoulders.
small heads look like this:
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/oprah-winfrey-attends-the-70th-annual-tony-awards-press-room-at-on-picture-id539763414
large heads look like this:

Don’t worry, what i already said
i’m addicted to the hbd-o-sphere and it’s doing i waste my time…
hbd is like the gap to breathe in a sinking ship
water is leftism (needs no further explanation) — (or mainstreamed/irreligious/whatever shit rightism)
and PP is one of this few place where ”you” have bizarre & entertainer stuff to read and comment weekly… and comment sections tend to be more funny
and i love to debate
that’s all the problem folks
I need to heal this addiction
stupid people are disturbingly common, constant, extremely self-confident and even persuasive.
and I’m not talking about people ” with ” low IQ, stupidity is mainly measured by the inability to
be logical
and to go beyond logic, towards the ratio-nality.
I am becoming progressively an stupidphobic …
I can already prepare the bags for my exile
because I already have too dumb people where I live to worry about, i can’t also have to lose patience with idiots in other corners.
an only instructive example
” It is necessary to convince a retard that ethics is extremely important to science ** ”
I thought this was of course understandable, even if falsely understandable, as is the habit among humans, but not,
you still need to spend their neurons to try to convince a person that the comfort of an innocent bein is important,
try to convince
and many times can not convince him/her
rational people convince themselves when faced with irresistible arguments
perfect idiots and they are very common, not, they are convinced by other means
loss of time, the total retrogression …
the dumbest answer was from a classmate named Doug who said “because the school board feels its nessecary.”
Apart from the spelling, what is wrong with that answer?
It begs the question, WHY do they feel it’s necessary?
You can always ask “why”, of any explanation.
I think it comes down to emotional satisfaction.
As an intelligent child you imagined that the school board would be guided by a rational consideration of the facts, that they would have some clear goal in mind, and that their actions should therefore be easily explicable.
My feeling, as an adult, is that Doug’s answer is pretty good – it avoids fruitless speculation on the motivations driving the bureaucracy, and provides us with the immediate sufficient condition for your studying Greek Mythology.
What about the extremely socially awkward high IQ folks?
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why isn’t rr’s comment showing up?
because it’s not a comment it’s a ping back. when another wordpress blog links to my blog it’s referenced at the bottom of the comment section of the article they linked to.
Pumpkin, for bilinguals, is a slightly lower similarities score than picture concepts score because of lower expression abilities? Generally the scores for similarities and vocabulary are the same- so it makes no sense for there to be vocab deficits, which would mean that vocab deficits wouldn’t be part of bilingualism.