[The following is a guest post by Ganzir and does not necessarily reflect the views of Pumpkin Person]
Let us make the following assumptions to simplify an illustrative example, although they are unnecessary for such an effect to arise.
- Intelligence is normally distributed.
- Our model intelligence test item has an item characteristic curve, i.e., graph with intelligence on the x-axis and probability of solving the item on the y-axis, with a break-even point, i.e., the IQ at which 50% of people solve it, of 130.
- This item’s characteristic curve is symmetrical in that going X IQ points above 130 will increase your probability of solving the item by the same amount that going X IQ points below 130 will decrease your probability of solving the item. For example, a person with an IQ of 120 has a 35% chance of solving this item, which means that a person with an IQ of 140 has a 65% chance of solving it.
- Although people above IQ 130 might miss this item and people below 130 might solve it, the only determinant of whether or not a person solves the item is the probability on the item characteristic curve corresponding to their IQ.
If I am told that a randomly selected person solved this item, what is my best estimate of their IQ?
130?
Wrong!
If you said that, you committed the base-rate fallacy because you forgot that there are more people below 130 than above 130.
To calculate the answer, apply Bayes’ Theorem. Look that up if you do not know what it is (that is a good habit to learn; look something up yourself before asking someone else). In this problem, it will tell you that our general formula is to calculate A = B * C / D for IQ X, where
A = The probability that someone has an IQ of X (in this case, X = 130), given that they solved the item
B = The probability that someone will solve the item, given that their IQ is X
C = The proportion of people who have an IQ of X
D = The total proportion of people who solved the item
D is the sum of, for each IQ, the proportion of people who will solve that item at that IQ multiplied by the proportion of all people with that IQ. In other words, D is the sum of B * C calculated for every possible value of X. Technically this would be an integral, but we could treat it as a sum by doing the calculation for each IQ point, or each 5-point IQ range, or whatever division of the intelligence spectrum.
In a sentence, the formula A = B * C / D means that the probability that someone who solves the item has an IQ of X is equal to the proportion of people with an IQ of X who solved the item divided by the total proportion of people who solved the item. If that does not make sense, please contemplate it until it does. Venn diagrams might help.
Once you have calculated B * C / D, find the maximum value of A. That is your best guess of the person’s IQ.
Why is this important? Because if you have an item for which the break-even point is far from the average and for which the item characteristic curve is (informally speaking) not close to flat around the break-even point, then the maximum value of A will be closer to the center of the IQ distribution than the break-even point is. If that sentence was a bit much to digest, someone who scores really high on a test, or solves a really hard item, probably has a lower IQ than almost everyone would think!
Allow me to demonstrate on our example item, with the help of <a href=”https://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/IQtable.aspx“>this chart</a>. A very, very rough estimate of D is the sum of the following:
- Proportion of people with an IQ of 120 * Proportion of people with IQ 120 who solve the item
- Proportion of people with an IQ of 130 * Proportion of people with IQ 130 who solve the item
- Proportion of people with an IQ of 140 * Proportion of people with IQ 140 who solve the item
I calculated the proportion of people at each IQ level by, with numbers from the table linked above, subtracting the proportion of people at IQ X from the proportion at IQ X+1. Now we plug in:
- 0.0105 * 0.35 = 0.003675
- 0.0034 * 0.50 = 0.0017
- 0.0008 * 0.65 = 0.00052
(Please do not bitch to me about significant figures. There is no need to bother with them here, and to how many decimal points I calculated the proportion of people at each IQ is arbitrary and irrelevant.)
What do we learn from this? If everybody with an IQ of 120, 130, or 140 attempted this item, and one of them were randomly selected, the probability that they have an IQ of 120 is 0.003675/(0.003675+0.0017+0.00052), which is about 62%. Even though the item “nominally” discriminates at 130, the majority of people who pass it have an IQ of 120!
This is a contrived example calculated with very generous assumptions, but my point, which stands even in the real world of non-spherical cows, is that a person who does one thing that seems to indicate exceptional smartness is probably not so exceptionally smart. The “Ganzir Effect” applies to reality as well as intelligence tests, which should be understood in the context that an intelligence test is only worthwhile insofar as it predicts real-life performance.
A concrete example of the Ganzir effect
I can give you a concrete example of this effect from the Mega Test norms:
The fourth column gives the percentage of testees in each six-point range who solved problem 36 (three interpenetrating cubes), the hardest problem on the Mega Test. Only the range 43-48, where 8 out of 13 candidates solved this item, exceeds its break-even point. However, from the third column, we find that 87 people solved it. Even though candidates in the ranges 37-42 and 31-36 were much less likely to solve the problem, 25 people in 37-42 did and 23 people in 31-36 did. If all I know is that someone solved the three cubes problem, it is almost three times as likely that they scored in the 31-36 range, i.e., high Triple Nine to low Prometheus, than in the 43-48 range.
Ironic that one country fighting for national sovereignty against encroaching empires is noble when it’s brown people (or those who libs like) but not when it’s White people.
“but not when it’s White people.”
What are you talking about? Most libs support Ukraine.
Another year. Another black oscar winner. Great news for puppy.
No I hate all this woke crap because it devalues the accomplishments of blacks who actually EARNED their achievements, especially back when there was real racism back in the 1980s and 1990s. Cracking down on all the woke stuff is one of the few things Trump is doing right. Unfortunately he’s been acting like such a fascist that people might once again become even more woke as a backlash against Trump.
Do you think there should be a quota in movies for blacks? Its the 1/6 rule.
No. Artists should be free to pursue their vision and not be forced to include characters of a certain race. Besides there’s no need. If anything in the woke era blacks are now OVERREPRESENTED in film.
So you were for quotas 20 years ago when it helped Oprah become a movie star from obscurity but now against it when it gets trump elected.
You have no integrity or principles.
I was against it 20 years ago and also now. If anything they should ban blacks completely from movies. Nobody watches them and all the women are ugly.
There were no quotas when Oprah became a movie star 40 years ago. Blacks were UNDERREPRESENTED in movies in Oprah’s day. She made it on pure talent:
Pure talent my ass. If she had talent why didnt she ever get offered more roles?
She did but she was too busy DOMINATING syndicated TV talk shows which is where the REAL money and power was.
Nobody talented picks daytime tv over hollywood. Never saw Mel Gibson or Daniel Day Lewis make tv
Gibson was already successful in movies so why would he risk everything he worked for to start a totally different career where 99% of actors flop. Oprah became successful in talk shows and movies at the exact same time, but since her talk show career was heating up even faster than her movie career she decided to pursue the former.
Oprah’s intelligent but not attractive, so being a talk show host is a much better idea than being an actress. She’s one of the few blacks who can still influence media that people watch not by directly being a part of it (as rappers/actors/comedians/models might) but imprinting her “morality” upon an audience through backing certain projects.
Its been 8 years and hes still saying russia russia and calling trump a russian spy. His iq is too low for this forum. Ban him
Yeah! Trump went to the Wailing Wall, pushed Netanyahu in his seat, has a Jewish family, and hung out with Epstein (a fact libfags can’t stop mentioning or else their wife’s boyfriend threatens to take away their Netflix privileges)… and yet we are supposed to care about Russian ties anymore than NATO and hence Israeli Deep State ties? If he is “working for Russia”, then Russia is working for the Deep State/WEFags, as we already know Zelenskyy is.
Seriously, does being “melanated” come with a bunch of rocks jangling in your smaller skull instead of brain matter?
Trump could quite literally suck Putin’s cock on live TV and some cuckservatives would still question where his loyalties lie.
I’m not a cuckservative or a faggot liberal like you, but I would. What does sucking someone’s cock have to do with international politics?
Unrelated inquiry:
What do you have to say about the correlations between IQ and academic success discriminating by field?
You have (if I recall correctly) made claims in the past about republican senators having lower IQs than democratic senators. What can you say about the differences between mathematicians, sociologists, and lawyers, each at the highest levels of achievement within their fields and with respect to the general population?
Anne Roe has a pertinent study (that I’m sure you are aware of), but the standard deviation of the test is not given and the scores are likely not SD 15 (average was something like 150, with scores beyond 190 for some subtests).
There was a similar 1967 (if I recall correctly) study of Cambridge faculty that used the WAIS and found IQs in the 120-130 range (lower than your estimate of democratic senators).
What is your opinion? How would Nobel laureates in physics compare to Nobel laureates in literature or economics, and how would the three of them compare to the general population? What is the most G-loaded Nobel prize?
Steve Hsu said the SD in the Roe study was 15 though the distribution was positively skewed, especially for the math subtest. 150ish makes sense for the 64 most elite academics in America. The Cambridge faculty were dumber because they were less highly selected and because the correlation IQ between IQ and academic success is lower in the UK. As for Nobel Prize winners, my guess is Theoretical physics > economics > literature.
Puppy zelensky is a neocon. Why are you supporting that shit. Watching trump bulldoze him was one of the greatest moments of 21st century politics. I’ve never seen a neocon belittled like that.
I agree America should never have supported Ukraine in an unwinnable war, but it was utterly disgusting watching Trump lecture Zelensky (an actual soldier fighting for his country) for taking advantage of America, just weeks after he kissed Bibi’s ass who does a hundred times worse.
peepee is incredibly bad at math. she thinks 40,000 palestinians = 100 x 500,000 ukrainians.
sad!
America has spent WAY more blood, treasure and political capital fighting Israel’s wars than it has fighting Ukrain’s, yet Trump licks Bibi’s boots while treating Zelensky like a dog, even though in every case Israel has been the aggressor and Ukraine has not been. Also the U.S. was obligated to help Ukraine in exchange for them giving up nuclear weapons but has no such obligation to Israel which has not given them up
And now Trump is bullying Ukraine into giving up their minerals to pay America back yet this Zionist owned slave would never ask Israel for one damn penny to pay baxk all America has sacrificed for them.
The war is not unwinnable. Agent Krasnov simply threw Ukraine under the bus. Trump is Putin`s bitch.
Ukraine could never have won the war, but with the military and economic support of the West, they were at least winning some battles in 2022. That was the time to strike a deal as General Mark Milley had wanted but sadly because only 110 IQ (and that was before cognitive decline) Biden said no, not understanding that in a war of attrition, Ukraine lacks the population size to produce enough soldiers to compete long-term, and the West lacks the industrial bases to manufacture enough weapons to rival Russia’s supply.
What do you think will Russia penetrate Baltics soon?
As usual puppys social intelligence is…not the best….the point was never to win lol….it was to bleed russia and teach him a lesson never to interfere in Israel’s lebensraum project again.
I would guess there are back channel communications between neocons and putin directly…maybe throught the remaining jewish oligarchs like Abramovich. They may offer him Ukraine in exchange for staying away from the middle east permenantly.
That said, I just read Putin is helping trump do a deal with iran so again, Putin is putting his foot in it and making the whole ordeal longer. Why is he doing this? I have no idea what Russia or Putin get from meddling in the mid east.
Wow. Not only are you socially retarded, but your verbal comprehension is not great. I said I opposed the war because it could not be won; I never said anything about what the point of it was.
teach him a lesson never to interfere in Israel’s lebensraum project again.
Israel doesn’t care. If they did they’d order their slave Trump to keep sending Zelensky even more weapons. Oh wait, he’s already sent them all to Israel, including 2000 lb bombs that Israel doesn’t even have aircrafts big enough to weaponize.
I have no idea what Russia or Putin get from meddling in the mid east.
You have no idea about anything so just shut up and let me do the thinking.
You have no idea about anything so just shut up and let me do the thinking.
You dont know the answer. And your guess would be 10,000 times dumber than mine.
Wow. Not only are you socially retarded, but your verbal comprehension is not great.
You never understood it was a war of attrition from day 1. You thought it was honestly about helping Ukraine be ‘free’ or whatever hebrew language you saw on CNN.
You thought it was honestly about helping Ukraine be ‘free’
No I thought it was about stopping Putin from having power. It’s been obvious since the 1990s that the U.S. didn’t want Russia gaining control of Ukraine’s minerals and Black Sea access because it would make Russia a huge imperial rival.
peepee is also psychotic. a soldier fighting for his country?
CLOWN!
LOL. A comedian fighting for his donors.
Right now Kamala is kissing the wailing wall in preparation for being the next president.
No Trump has a monopoly on doing that.
I might be wrong. But has trump actually done that?
I was being metaphorical.
No you weren’t. You suggested he kissed the wall. Show me a photo. Show me a news article that says he did it.
No you weren’t.
Wow, are you ever dumb.
He didn’t kiss it but he did the expected “touch the wall with the yarmulke” on.”
PP, I was hoping that you would liveblog Trump’s State of the Union address
Lol, Im watching Trump address the Joint session in congress and he’s such a horrible speaker. Dude is so bad at comedic timing and he emphasizes every part a word.
Y’all find this charismatic?
I saw trump openly thank john roberts for making him immune from the law….this is the first time in 10 years trump showed low social intelligence. hes supposed to pretend the supreme court stooges are respectable and independent. If hes openly slapping their backs and laughing about the decisions it makes mugabe’s legal analysis look stupid.
Look even people in the 0.1% make mistakes.
peepee is incredibly bad at math. she thinks 40,000 palestinians = 100 x 500,000 ukrainians.
Puppy is the top 1% of math and this blog is littered with math mistakes everywhere. He said RR was 140 IQ when even a 12 year old could see from his SELF REPORTED sat score he was lucky to be able to read. Frankly, puppy makes so many math and estimation reasoning errors you have to ask whether he is 130 IQ or not or whether he uses AI or a friend to do the more complicated math on this blog. In no universe does someone keep doing pants on fire errors like this habitually, almost daily.
I couldn’t make a math mistake if you drugged me and RR is smarter than Joe Biden (IQ 110) and almost as smart as Harris (IQ 115). Smart people can believe dumb things. Your God Mel Gibson is a creationist.
LOL
Joe Biden was the president. VP and senator and a lawyer. HE became senator at age 29.
RR flunked high school and cant understand basic science and you think RR is smarter LOL. Wow.
TP you’re so dumb my guy. What a clown.
Go ahead and give a valid argument using an inference rule of your choosing for one of your beliefs.
The other day puppy said Elon Musk and oprah have the same IQ.
When I contested it, he stood by the estimate. Look. Even Ganzir and Bruno will know this is something only a psychotic person would say.
You’re so brainwashed by libertarian propaganda that you can’t imagine a black woman being anywhere near as smart as the richest man on Earth. If you weren’t such a gullible self-hating peasant, you would stand shoulder to shoulder with black people in your shared class struggle against the oligarchs.
^^ Evidence of psychosis
I thought you said I was autistic. Psychosis is arguably the opposite of autism. Make up your mind, doc.
I doubt that Oprah’s IQ is as high as Elon’s, but I don’t think it’s so implausible that only a psychotic person would say so. Albeit only because I think Elon is dumber than the average tech billionaire and has just gotten lucky repeatedly.
Look some of this isn’t an IQ issue. Its a religious issue. You want to say RR’s opinions are fantastic and Oprah is a genius for very irrational religious reasons.
You want to say Elon Musk is smarter because you’ve been brainwashed to worship the richer person and because the rich have brainwashed you into blaming all your problems on blacks instead of the oligarchs who robbed you blind
Which of my beliefs do you think PP would deem “fantastic”? We’re at ends on quite a few areas.
Magic negro
What does that mean?
zealot
[ˈzɛlət]
noun
Yeah uncompromising with mathematics.
For puppy, beloved isnt a political theory. Its a religion. Theres the origin story. Theres the magic negro supernatural aspect. Theres the deity. Theres even the chance at redemption/reperations.
Its an open and shut case of cultist brainwashing by <b>[redacted by pp, March 2025]</b>. Again.
Idiot! No one’s trying to brainwash people into worshipping blacks, they’re using black faces in high places to deflect from who has the REAL power, and like a good little peasant, you fall for it so completely that you’re outraged I praised a black woman.
So do you think Oprah knows shes being used to distract the goyim from the real problems? (ie her boss)
Oprah doesn’t have a boss, and I don’t know if she knows what motivates the media’s obsession with blacks, especially since her success predated the woke era so she faced hardcore racism, but privately her and the Obamas probably have such discussions.
Her boss is Harvey. We both know that.
He’s not her boss you idiot. Just someone she sucked up to because she wanted to be cast in more high profile movies & he sucked up to her because he wanted actors from his movies to get interviewed on the highest rated talk show of all time. He had zero influence in the TV business which is where her bread was buttered. Btw Candace Owen just released a new series arguing Weinstein is innocent.
pumpkin, I have a PDF file I want to send you but I want to make sure you actually get it and it doesn’t end up in your spam filter.
do you still use the same email?
yes, the same email
This is an interesting and thought-provoking post. It’s a clever application of Bayes’s Theorem.
Here’s a question, given two people, if we only know that A solved the hardest problem on an IQ test and B didn’t, what is the probability that A’s IQ is higher than B’s? I guess it would depend on the item curve.
A complementary approach is to think about the capability itself, rather than the statistical models. If the cubes problem is something that can’t be guessed on, then solving it demonstrates some intellectual capacity. Maybe a strong spatial intuition, maybe a good analytical methodology, maybe a facility in building paper models.
For instance, here’s a book where the four authors all contributed something different (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifty-Nine_Icosahedra). What were their IQ’s? I’m not sure, but they all had particular intellectual capacities and were able to combine those to classify shapes.
Good question sir!
Yes, it would
The fact you put Oprah and Elon in even the same category….
And then said RR is smarter than the president….
You have very very strong religious beliefs that are interfering with your judegment.
Smarter than the dullest president. And I thought you said I was a high IQ autistic. Autism provides protection from religious beliefs and so does high IQ, so when you combine them the odds of being religious are almost nil.
Not that I doubt the negative correlation, but it may interest you to know that I know two people who have high IQ’s, are on the spectrum, and are devout Christians. Both are engineers – one a PhD, one an MS from Caltech.
creepy
You think this Joe Biden had an IQ of 110? And you think Kamala Harris is smarter than him?
110 is not dumb. It’s +0.66 SD. If you’re +0.66 SD in male height you’re six feet. Also his decades of political experience made him sound smarter than he was in debates. But he graduated at the bottom of his class from a low ranked law school and his foreign policy was a hot mess to put it charitably. The only reason he ended up President is Obama needed a VP who could connect to all the white racists who hated him.
Well of course I know him. He’s me.
Ganzir will be happy to know that I solved the problem.
Not with bayes theorem, though I was talking to my sister today and she said she saw a video about bayes theorem using geometry and now understands it.
I used an s curve of a sigmoid.
plus 1 added to the denominator
times (x – 100) not power sign ^
This is why I think they did not allow me into calculus classes.
Every time I made a mistake I had to take remedial arithmetic.
i don’t know why this happens
What are we doing here? Taking the area under the item characteristic curve, i.e., the percentage of people who solve the item at a given IQ level, and multiplying it by the proportion of people at the corresponding IQ to make a rectangle with area equal to the amount of solvers with that IQ, then maximizing the rectangle’s area?
If you think Oprah is anywhere near Elon you simply don’t know alot about Elon or Oprah.
Oprah made her money basically sponsoring products using her celebrity.
The fact you can’t tell theres a 3 SD difference is scary and shows how crappy and ridiculous your IQ estimates are. You also said Kamala is in the 120s. I have never met or seen anyone in the 120s that communicates or acts like Kamala.
Again, you dont know her background. Basically she slept her way to jobs.
Oprah made her money basically sponsoring products using her celebrity.
No Oprah made her money by turning a low rated low budget local morning show into the highest rated talk show of all time, and by choosing ownership over a high salary and choosing syndication over joining a network.
Musk made his money by being in the top 0.001% in luck. He accidentally invested in three companies that hit the Fortune 500, and then pretended he founded them and understood the technology. Just today yet another one of his rockets blew up spreading so much debris and pollution that hundreds of flights had to be delayed. It’s the kind of incompetence you would expect to see in a very low IQ Third World country.
The fact you can’t tell theres a 3 SD difference is scary and shows how crappy and ridiculous your IQ estimates are.
I guarantee there’s not a 3 SD difference between them. Your problem is you can’t see past race. You said Oprah’s IQ is 75 and Howard Stern’s is 145 even though Stern’s talk show was way dumber and trashier than Oprah’s was. But because Stern is Jewish and Oprah is black you think the IQ gap is nearly 5 SD. Your problem is you think IQ is like color where virtually all whites have lighter skin than virtually all blacks. In reality it’s like height, where most whites are taller than most East Asians, but there’s enormous overlap between the two distributions, and some East Asians like Yao Ming are taller than 99.9999% of whites and even taller than non-Asian NBA players.
Your other problem is you’re not socially intelligent enough to see that Oprah is a very subtle and sophisticated woman and Musk has the mind of a 12-year-old. An extremely gifted 12-year-old but a 12-year-old nonetheless. This is totally obvious to people like Steve Bannon and Sam Harris but you can’t see it because you lack antenna.
You also said Kamala is in the 120s. I have never met or seen anyone in the 120s that communicates or acts like Kamala.
I said 115. Dumb enough to suck at interviews, yet high enough to be the only politician to ever beat Trump in a debate. Both her parents were elite immigrants, her mother being a cancer researcher from the most elite caste in India.
Again, you dont know her background. Basically she slept her way to jobs.
I don’t doubt it, but millions of women do that. You still need some intelligence
pill personality the soi-disant marxist can’t grok how it can be that a capitalist is NOT the sharpest tool in the shed.
FACT! elon is about as smart as peepee says in IQ terms but both dumber and smarter in other ways.
FACT! elon has beaucoup pipo working for him who are MUCH smarter than he is.
FACT! oprah is ENORMOUSLY DUMBER than peepee thinks.
SPECIFICALLY!
i think elon may be a lot smarter on the so-called “freedom from distractibility” factor.
as i’ve said before: he’s like 140 on meth.
but on meth naturally. so it doesn’t kill him.
but if he died from an AMI before 60 i wouldn’t be surprised.
both he and trump have enormous “energy”. most high IQ pipo don’t. and american society especially favors Hi-NRG.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Cowley
it all comes back to perversion because the very idea of the “secular state” is perverted…it’s heresy.
peepee likes the satanist Iron Man, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_(song). but satanism is just part of the perversion of the profit maximizing enterprise.
a better expression of the world we post-christian western pipos live in is Megatron Man.
If you show any teacher or scientist RR’s comments and then say this guy has a 140 IQ, literally 95% of them will burst out laughing saying the guy doesnt even have basic reading comprehension.
Again, another example of religion taking over your brain.
His self-reported IQ scores ranged from 65 to 140. He’s probably around 112.
Come on, pussy—answer the challenge.
RaceRealistsaid:
Go ahead and give a valid argument using an inference rule of your choosing for one of your beliefs.
Basically puppy, is there any black celebrity that isn’t a genius? Name 1.
The only one I consider a genius is Oprah because she not only has a freakishly huge brain but is America’s first multi-billionaire black. She’s basically the black Chris Langan and black Bill Gates combined into one person.
You said Mohammed Ali was a 85 iq guy…he tested in the 70s in the army.
Every time theres an official IQ test you just ignore it and say your religious beliefs are better indicators. Whatever. Anti Science.
No the 78 was misreporting by the media that had the wrong percentile.
Because you assumed the army IQ test had normal SDs of 15. But older IQ tests usually are 16-20.
He scored at the 16th percentile which on the sigma 15 scale equates to an IQ of 85 (-1 SD below the mean). But you’re right that the Army IQ test used at the time probably has an SD close to 22 so it got reported as 78. But even 85 is likely an underestimate because before the 1980s blacks had abysmal schooling causing them to score 0.5 SD lower, at least on certain tests.
i told my own racist aunt’s husband that fact and he laughed.
he laughed because he was sure ali was a lot smarter.
but i recall one boxing journo saying ali was just an act and the real person was incredibly boring and stupid.
The level of art on BlueSky is fat cat lady “Wicca” grade.
The level of political commentary is CNN/MSBNC/Vox.
You actually can feel your testosterone decreasing by browsing it.
pill personality should say what he means by “religious”.
especially given his handle.
the distinction between religion, theology, and philosophy is recent and not at all real in many cases.
revelation is an abrahamic idea. the indic religions and taoism have no such idea.
but even in the case of “revelation”…the midrashim use “philosopher” as a term of contempt. but isn’t judaism just “jewish philosophy”?
if the pill personality were a real person and irish then this might explain his use of “religious”. ireland is or was until recently a lot like poland. way more catholic than italy. and so pill may have personal experience which associates religiosity with stupidity and a bunch of other not good things.
what is the real difference between marxism and catholicism?
both are total ideologies. and catholic social teaching is very similar to marxism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_social_teaching
YUGE difference = when self-described marxists had power they were a lot worse than the inquisition ever was. the cathars vs the kulaks is no contest. the cathars were shoah-ed by french lords not be the church. torquemada vs yezhov is like liberace vs mel gibson.
FOR EXAMPLE!
it’s totally absurd when iran is called a “theocracy” and the US govt is called “secular”.
what’s the difference between the koran and the US constitution? what’s the difference between professors of constitutional law and supreme court justices and the guardian council and ulama?
the distinction is gay and retarded.
especially in iran’s case as iran is NOT arab AND has an indigenous religion, zoroastrianism.
peepee still hasn’t answered the question.
how should high IQ pipo treat average pipo?
one yuge difference between retarded pipo and average pipo is that retarded pipo almost always actually DO know they’re retarded.
the opposite of langan’s maxim.
whereas average pipo are very likely to think high IQ pipo are DUMBER than they are.
They should treat them with respect.
PEEPEE’S RESPONSE EVINCES HER STILL BELIEVING THAT IQ = STATUS AND POWER.
SAD!
WHEN MULTIPLE STATEMENTS BY PEEPEE HERSELF CONTRADICT THIS DOGMA, IDEOLOGY.
PEEPEE HAS NO INTEREST IN BEING CONSISTENT BECAUSE SHE HAS NO Y CHROMOSOME AND IS EVIL.
SAD!
Why are you obsessed with this question? How do I treat people who are poorer than me? How are uglier? Who are more religious/mind controlled? Who are a different caste/social class? Who are gay?
You turned to religion to give you that answer.
I turned to common sense.
Puppy turned to CNN.
We have different approaches. Even if the person is above average in intelligence the person may be for example, autistic or may not be curious or open minded. You can’t just say jews run everything and Mel Gibson is John the baptist.
I’ve been here 7 years telling puppy his religious beliefs in blacks are ANTI-HBD and hes here still rolling around the mud crying everything a black person wins the oscar or becomes head of the joint chiefs of staff or supreme court justice. Up is down.
All I will say is that average IQ people also have common sense not to punch themselves in the face. And usually social intelligence. And you need to work with it to help them.
You are being a troll
meaning you don’t care if what you say is true philosopher just that you can make people angry.
you keep saying pumpkin said thing he did not say
so your stupid or a troll
peepee: who cares? that’s a stupid question.
mugabe: it’s kind of THE question for the high IQ person. unless he’s born rich he’ll have to deal with average pipo, average pipo who will think he is stupid, average pipo who will do him real harm.
of course by peepee’s anti-marxist logic there are no high IQ pipo who aren’t born rich.
i agree with peepee the born-rich do have higher scores than the rest. but they don’t have a monopoly on high IQ.
and by “deal with” i don’t mean buying groceries.
i mean really interact with pipo who are relative to him retarded and don’t know it.
man is a social species. THE social species.
chris langan and vos savant by themselves would just have an especially good Swiss Family Robinson life-style.
that is, within any social species there is an inherent BIAS toward AVERAGE.
I was on mis savants forum once.
Not there but somewhere else I think I heard Chris Langan was not admitted to the mega society because the cut off for it was IQ 177 – this contradicts the log normal distribution because on that curve it is 171 for 1 in a million. I found that my curve fits the 177 for that 1 in x measure. So it may be a big deal that curves we don’t know about exist in super high IQ societies back in the 1980’s.
In the movie meet the Robinsons the boy invented things and was adopted from an orphanage where he could work in a study. It seems that with this he became highly successful and improved society. That might be what they need.
The person I know is a truck driver but I am not sure why he doesn’t talk to me. He said he can’t figure out what I was thinking.
I did not do anything at the science fair that people would consider genius. But I worked on ideas. The math books I have are not that good for my level of understanding. They are not practical for step by step learning. The expectation is that you know stuff. Otherwise you cannot build anything. Math as instructions should tell you what to do as fundamental but instead they only want people that are going to work in factories as accountants. Not as people who will design things.
So that’s what happens is the books don’t teach math. They teach you to be a cog. A tool, a part that is replaceable. It’s why people don’t learn math until 40 because the worker isn’t supposed to. The schools are run by people that need kids to pass tests and when they don’t they don’t give them instructions to pass.
Instructions manuals for maths need to be better then I think.
We might have them on computers.
One of the best ways to learn math is to start with the basic concepts and then once you have a solid understanding of those, move on.
Newer books are good for pictures, but older books are better for explanations in words. There’s a lot of public domain math books out there at this point.
A mix of examples, explanations in words, diagrams (often you have to make your own) and exercises (even the most basic exercises are good) is what helps cement a concept.
It can be daunting to learn from a math book because there’s a lot of material, but it’s not necessary to go through it all. You can just focus on the parts you need.
For example, the main ideas of calculus are: limit, derivative, continuity, integral. And foundational to those is a good understanding of how basic functions work.
But many calculus textbooks have many more topics and many problems, some quite challenging. If you want to learn more, it’s good, but you don’t have to learn all those to get the basics of what calculus is all about.
Also, using multiple textbooks, which explain things in different ways and give different examples is often useful.
@Ganzir
You were correct that I was adding the area under the curve for the given 50% above 130 but it seems it was arbitrary in my Excel file to find at what point people stopped being able to solve the item.
I did look at it from that perspective and redid the problem in a new way.
I still don’t know if I am doing it right but this is what I have so far.
Puppy is so …socially naive…that when he watches Ali and Oprah on tv hes sure theyre geniuses. Yes they are. Like trump.
Social geniuses. Which is a different part of the brain and something blacks DID evolve for. Social intelligence.
Puppy, who has been studying intelligence for 70 years doesnt understand a person can be smart at social intelligence and dumb at academic intelligence. Maybe puppy wlaked into high school with a blind fold every day and didnt notice it in the other kids.
Puppy social intelligence – bottom 1%.
Puppy academic intelligence – top 1%.
Oprah social intelligence – top 1%
Oprah academic intelligence – bottom 1%
Ali ….Will Smith…Chris Rock….it would be the exact same and even more.
The human mind cannot handle doing math thinking and social thinking. Only jews evolved to bridge it.
Puppy is so …socially naive…that when he watches Ali and Oprah on tv hes sure theyre geniuses. Yes they are. Like trump.
More lies. Never said Ali was a genius. I merely denied he was borderline retarded?
Social geniuses. Which is a different part of the brain and something blacks DID evolve for
IQ measures g which means the general factor to ALL cognitive abilities, not academic ones only
Puppy, who has been studying intelligence for 70 years doesnt understand
You’ve been obsessed with social intelligence for 70 years and still don’t understand it.
a person can be smart at social intelligence and dumb at academic intelligence.
And a person can be smart verbally and dumb mathematically. Or a person can be dumb spatially but smart musically. But generally speaking, people who are successful in any area, tend to have high g. If academic intelligence and social intelligence were unrelated, then great writers and poets would be unable to describe the human condition. U.S. Presidents (selected for political success) would not average in the top 1% on IQ tests. Autistic people (selected for social impairments) would not average IQs in the 70s.
Oprah social intelligence – top 1%
Oprah academic intelligence – bottom 1%
Ali ….Will Smith…Chris Rock….it would be the exact same and even more.
LOL! Will Smith scored MENSA level on his SATs and was accepted by MIT! Mensa level (top 2%) is 65 points above the bottom 1% so your IQ estimates are off by 4.33 SD!
The human mind cannot handle doing math thinking and social thinking. Only jews evolved to bridge it.
Yes Jews are so socially intelligent they were expelled from 100 countries. But keep worshipping your masters like a good Uncle Tom. You were bred to be a slave.
To be fair, while people keep using a 100 countries thing as some kind of burn or an epic own, but I disagree. You need to compare that to people like Baltic Prussian pagans who were eliminated by crusaders to see how the expulsions actually indicate a good long term survivability.
g is a way to solve problems
This might be good for academics but it can be great for others things.
It is in fact a way of taking in and deciding what to do with information. So you think the only information you can use g on is academic? No that’s flat out wrong. g is not equatable to academic achievement. You are saying that if Oprah decides to study math she would fail. That’s wrong and you know it. g is general not the same as schooling. School don’t raise g it enhances it. So you don’t know what a potential is.
Social intelligence only works if you can get people to do what you want. So you have less to see that pumpkin is right. Pumpkin is right you cannot see past race. You don’t understand g and you have delusions.
a 75 g IQ and 135 social iq is going to create people that are not normal and cannot function in society. It would be a strange person.
No that doesn’t work.
Sociopaths that extreme die out.
But you don’t understand.
The scary thing is puppy cant tell high intelligence in a person. He needs a test score or data set. He cant tell it by talking or looking at someone. 70 years of study washed down the drain on an imbecile.
LOL! You’re the one who thinks Will Smith has an IQ in the bottom 1% (IQ 65) when his SAT scores put him in the top 2% (IQ 130). Your IQ estimates are literally off by 100%. He scored 100% higher than you predicted. I’ve never heard of such stupidity.
I on the other hand brilliant estimated Elon Musk had an IQ of 140 BEFORE learning his SAT score equated to exactly that!
Regarding development brains and genes:
The reason rr doesn’t understand intelligence is that his idea of “development” doesn’t happen in the brain. But in fact it is the mylination of the brain network that matters. And the way the brain is connected as in which parts are connected to the other parts (grey matter regions) and how fast they communicate matters. The cerebellum is the first to mylinate as its function is the error correction of the grey matters coordination to smoothly form motion and perception with actions.
By the way (btw)
The reason rr doesn’t believe in self regulation of cell metabolism is that feedback loops exist as to keeping the cell stable and not fall apart. But he keeps saying I am stupid for believing feedback loops exist.
Genes like the hox genes are used to form the body parts in embryogenesis by signals of feedback regulation, therefore rr doesn’t believe in cell biology systems.
rr is wrong the brain is not involved with intelligence and rr is wrong genes are not involved with self regulation of cell biology.
Development needs them and is not up in the aether as rr believes a priori platonic heaven.
It doesn’t matter what kind of cause it is because it(gene regulation leading to phenotype and brain mylination/connectivity leading intelligence) is happening and not an abstraction (rerification) as he thinks it is.
His ideas are the rerification / abstraction not the physical biology of what is actually happening in the real world. We can empirically see genes effect biology and we can see the brain mylination effect development/intelligence even if rr denies it.
What rr says isn’t real. They are just words that don’t mean anything because scientific demonstration is stronger than his abstractions.
everything I said is true a posteriori
(demonstration by physical observation)
his logic cannot disprove what people have seen with there own eyes.
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he is wrong about evolution for many the same reasons
rr’s abstractions don’t mean anything in the real world where things actually happen.
To my recollection rr never quoted Darwin as to what natural selection is and why this is wrong. He only made a random quote that had nothing to do with what Darwin believed. (I believe it is because I was not specific but that doesn’t matter because I told him he made a random quote not explaining why Darwin was wrong and he didn’t care)
The fact is I don’t give a shit about neo-darwinism, it is what Darwins hypothesis that I care about because he existed in early scientific times when he did not have all the answers so you cannot say his metaphors were supposed to be logical in the way people are imposing on him to say he’s wrong. That shit about him being wrong was made up to discredit evolution in some way for a specific agenda. That genes don’t matter at all to anything. And so to make that possible they need to make Darwin look bad for his words: “natural selection” as a metaphor that was not supposed to mean what these people need them to mean for the agenda to work.
“From these several considerations I think it inevitably follows, that as new species in the course of time are formed through natural selection, others will become rarer and rarer, and finally extinct.
“That shit about him being wrong was made up to discredit evolution”
Maybe for some, but Fodor and Piattelli-Palmarini are atheists and believe that evolution happened. They just deny the Darwinian story.
again with the random quotes?
how does Darwin himself define natural selection,
not the straw man of fordor
That quote is from Darwin.
and I said it didn’t disprove his hypothesis
Quote the part that proves natural selection is wrong
without showing the Darwin quote on what the hypothesis is then I don’t see how natural selection is disproven because of fodors straw man.
again rr doesn’t care
he “quoted Darwin” so it doesn’t matter
That’s what F&PP disproved in their book.
anal
its what rr does when you ask him to be flexible
its why fodors and the rest are anal philosophers
no flexibility
(logic is not everything in philosophy neither is argumentation)
(if it was then a.i. would be easier because humans wouldn’t be flexible either)
flexibility is a great method to make a.i. btw
You obviously don’t understand the purpose of this conversation.
You are inflexible
What’s the purpose of this conversation?
if you want to disprove natural selection you need to show where Darwin went wrong.
a random quote doesn’t do it because of course he came up with natural selection but that doesn’t disprove it just because it was Darwin who did.
(Darwin came up with it therefore it’s wrong) is not a valid counter position.
Darwin said if gradual change by variation didn’t exist his hypothesis broke down so what does Darwin say that shows he went wrong on his hypothesis of natural selection as he defines it?
i am being specific this time
don’t weasel your way out
“if you want to disprove natural selection you need to show where Darwin went wrong.”
??? Darwin claimed that new species were formed by natural selection (and presumably its traits as well). That’s what F&PP disproved.
Do you think that the truth/falsity of a theory (however loosely) rides on what the theory generator said about it?
If you can disprove natural selection you should be able to quote Darwin on what natural selection is
Because you don’t I assume you don’t know what it is.
you are bullshitting that fodors has disproved it
because YOU don’t know what natural selection is you appeal to authority which is a common fallacy
your appeal to authority then is illegitimate
Shut the fuck up
“If you can disprove natural selection you should be able to quote Darwin on what natural selection is”
I just did. His other steps are irrelevant if his supposed mechanism doesn’t work.
no dumbbells
you quoted him saying it exists not what it is
so it is not disproven
natural selection is just that which survived to reproduce
this happens
evolution happens because animals and other organisms die off and are replaced by new ones
You say this doesn’t happen
you are wrong
“natural selection is just that which survived to reproduce”
If that’s ALL it were then Fodor wouldn’t have made his argument m
Then it should be easy to quote Darwin on what natural selection is.
so far no you have not
Certain things follow if NS is true – which Fodor and Piattelli-Palmarini showed don’t hold (upon empirical and logical analysis).
i am not interested in neo-darwinist like fodor
Darwin’s original hypothesis is true.
i don’t see where he went wrong
I mean that certain things follows if Darwin’s NS is true—which Fodor and Piattelli-Palmarini showed don’t hold.
and I don’t know what those are,
the video you posted said something about how we don’t know what came first, the egg color or the hardness of the shell.
so because we cannot know then we cannot say variation exists to tell us what would allow survivors
this is dumb because it doesn’t matter what we know. It matters that variations allow some survivors to exist.
i mean does the dark side of the moon exist before we can see it in the 1960’s?
yes
so it doesn’t matter what we know but what allowed organisms to survive
INDEED!
if that’s ALL it were…
your pipo committed suicide with the aggiornamento.
ALL states AND all pipo are confessional.
whether or NOT they admit it or recognize it.
liam gallagher’s voice is straight-up (totally un-intentional) nazi propaganda.
in general, generally speaking, the west is gonna move east, religiously and ideologically….
or die.
FACT!
cue CRYING BABY EUROCRAT:
If NS is true, then one of two things have to be true: (1) there is an agent intentionally selecting fit traits/organisms or (2) there are laws of selection for trait fixation that hold across all ecologies. But there is no agent intentionally selecting fit traits/organisms nor are there laws of selection for trait fixation that hold across all ecologies. Therefore, NS is false. QED.
you don’t need laws of selection
animals simply die off and are replaced by different animals of different variations, the organism fits its environment or it doesn’t until reproduction
that is natural selection as Darwin meant because this requires no mind, natural selection is a principle of life not a law, evolution cannot happen without it as described
fodor is a conman or stupid or just anal
This is the conclusion I have made.
no natural selection then rr can say intelligence cannot be measured, that is where this all leads to.
it doesn’t matter if was natural selection is true or not as long as it validated HIS (RaceRealist’s) conclusion that intelligence is not measurable. Everything else in his views needs to make that possible.
“animals simply die off and are replaced by different animals of different variations”
Again, if that’s ALL NS were then there would be no Fodorian argument against NS. The fact is that Darwin claimed that “new species in the course of time are formed through natural selection.”
“no natural selection then rr can say intelligence cannot be measured”
That’s a separate argument but it does lead to a certain conclusion—that mental traits can’t be selected-for (and even if ANY trait could be selected-for, this doesn’t mean that psychology can be).
“animals simply die off and are replaced by different animals of different variations”
Again, if that’s ALL NS were then there would be no Fodorian argument against NS. The fact is that Darwin claimed that “new species in the course of time are formed through natural selection.”
How is that any different from what Cat just said: animals simply die off and are replaced by different animals of different variations?
It’s simple—if NS were merely the differential survival of different animals, then no Fodorian argument would exists against the theory of natural selection. But since Darwin proposed a mechanism—a theory of causation—to explain the origin of species and speciation, then that runs into the logical and empirical issues that Fodor and Piattelli-Palmarini argued in their book. If it were merely “animals die”, do you thibj there would be a Fodorian argument against the theory of natural selection? Because the argument is a specific one about a specific claim/belief that Darwin (and his contemporaries) have about the origin of traits and speciation. Here are my thoughts:
“So in a world without Charles Darwin, the evolutionary narrative would have been significantly shaped by Erasmus and Lamarck. This alternative world would focus on Lamarckian concepts, the idea of transmutation over time, purposeful adaptation over time along with directed mutations and the integration of PE with these other ideas to give us a fuller and better understanding of how organisms change over time—that is, how organisms evolve. The punctuated episodic bursts of evolutionary change can be interpreted as purposeful evolutionary change based on Lamarckian concepts. Environmental determinism and stability shape the periods between bursts of change. And since we know that organisms in fact can adapt to complex, changing environments due to their physiology (Richardson, 2020), eventually as our scientific knowledge advanced we would then come to this understanding.
Therefore, the combination of Erasmus’ and Lamarck’s ideas would have provided a holistic, non-reductive narrative to explain the evolution of species. While I do believe that someone would have eventually articulated something similar to Darwin’s ToNS, I think that it would have been subsumed under the framework of built off of Erasmus and Lamarck. So there was quite obviously enough evolutionary thought and ideas before Darwin for there to be a relevant and explanatory theory of evolution had Darwin not been alive to formulate the ToNS, and this shows how such mechanisms to explain the origin of life, speciation, and trait fixation would have occurred, even in the absence of Darwin.”
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2023/12/21/what-if-charles-darwin-never-existed-and-the-theory-of-natural-selection-was-never-formulated/
rr is arguing in bath faith pumpkin
he cannot acknowledge anything I say is true
it spoils his world view
animals and organisms are formed because of natural selection.
if they did not die off and fit to their niche then how would they?
no animal/organisms dieing off
no niches
no variations of organisms
everything Darwin says exists and happens
so how is he wrong?
he is not
if you look on the individual level with metabolism as phenotype that doesn’t disprove anything Darwin says. Physiology is just them in a niche they live in.
so the only thing that fodor is saying is that Darwin didn’t specify adaptation in a niche over a span of time on the individual level. Which is false. Darwin would not be that stupid. He understood animals and organisms have life spans and change/grow over their life time. Individual Organisms exist over time in an environment and fodor says Darwin didn’t understand this. Analism is the worst.
evolution involves genes
that involvement is connected to natural selection
so to disconnect them those with the agenda need to redefine what Darwin meant (evolution by natural selection) is not what he meant.
they do this by saying selection is only by agents and not natural so phenotype has no causally relationship to genes meaning genes cannot be selected naturally but only intentionally.
the fact is that a selection is a group that breeds and when the group is breeding the groups genes are continuing.
Darwin never said Genes made animals survive but the phenotype of metabolism (what they eat and instincts) allows them to
he never said Genes as to DNA but back then is was a speculation
he meant what causes the phenotype to persist
so the selection is the same as the metabolism of phenotype that don’t die. (Metabolism is phenotype(a chemical system of homeostasis (the cells of the body)))
you cannot say natural selection is wrong because of genes not causing phenotype because that was not how Darwin was thinking
but as we know from hox genes and other metabolism processes they do have genes involved in phenotype
so natural selection (that which allows survivors to exist) is true
animals as chemical systems have used the energy inside themselves persist by those self regulation phenotype (regulation of energy = phenotype) so last long enough to reproduce that kind of energy regulating system with small variations to the regulation of the offsprings bodies as well.
the selected organism has offspring
by naturally not dying
(selected = just exists no intention)
it takes contorted logic to say this is not the case
Darwin is correct
Tapping the same sign I’ve been tapping for almost 2 years without a response:
“We know the biological systems are characterized by multiple interacting levels molecular, cellular, organismal, environmental) where each level can influence each other in a dynamic way. So no single level has a causal priority over another. In biological systems, causation is understood as the process by which one event or state leads to another. So for there to be a privileged level of causation in biological systems, one level would need to be inherently more deterministic or controlling of others, independent of the context that the developing organism is situated. But each level of biological organization (from genes to the ecosystem of the organisms) is interdependent where changes at one level can only be understood in relation to changes at other levels (genetic expression is influenced by cellular conditions, which are then affected by organismal health and environmental factors).
So no level of biological organization operates independently or can dictate outcomes without influence or interaction with other levels. Even what may seem like so-called “genetic causes” require the cell to read the context-dependent information in the gene. So there is a feedback loop where influences are not unidirectional but reciprocal. While genes can influence protein synthesis, the need for proteins can regulate gene expression through feedback mechanisms. Therefore, a priori, there is no privileged level of causation in biological systems, since each level is part of an integrated system where causation is distributed and context-dependent, not localized to any one of the levels of biological organization.”
“Baverstock’s (2024) response to commentaries further shows how we should look at genes/DNA sequences—as passive, not active causes, the active cause is the phenotype and, consequently, genetic variance isn’t the driver of evolution.”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S007961072400018X
““Active causation” is when X causes or initiates an event to occur, whereas “passive causation” is when X is causes to do something or forced to do something by something else or another situation/event. Both Baverstock and Noble argue that genes (DNA sequences) are passive causes, meaning they don’t initiate the causation of traits. Baverstock also argued that the phenotype plays an active role in morphogenesis and evolution, causing changes in processes (which is similar to West-Eberhard’s and Lerner’s views conceptualizing genes as followers, not leaders, in the evolutionary process).”
All that you say is just an assumption about what I believe as a red Herring(the fallacy of distraction).
i said multiple times the differences in genes matter.
so like chimpanzee have 99.5% the same DNA sequences as humans but they have extremely different phenotypes.
so I don’t care about “causation” as you are using it. I care that differences exist and you don’t.
example being that males cannot exist without y chromosome. You cannot make a male in humans if it is not their at all. But you can make a female even with a y chromosome in the egg. This shows that the sequence of DNA matters to sex in biology. But to you this is a just so story.
i believe cats and dogs are different for valid reasons
you don’t think differences exist at all or that they matter
this somehow shows in your belief system humans are all the same and cannot be different because of differences in our DNA sequences.
and it is because you don’t want people to be different in intelligence or have it shown that this can be effected by genes by any causality things whatever level or interactions. That brains are not feedback systems or that one/many allel can make a difference in that system of feedback.
i have news for you: the brain as a feedback system can grow differently/self regulate differently if genes are different as alleles or otherwise. Having multiple copies of some genes is experically proven to effect the phenotype of the brain.
“you don’t think differences exist at all or that they matter”
What?
“differences in genes matter”
What’s the argument for this claim and what evidence do you have for it?
Learn the difference between “affects” and “effects.”
i gave evidence
chimpanzees
sex
cats and dogs
(look up the phenomena of multiple gene copies and the effects on phenotype)
affect is about emotion
gene affect is a different subject
That’s not an argument man. Just like that moron TP, you can’t give a basic logical argument for your belief. Sad.
All the things we measure are “passive causes”. There are no “active causes” to measure because activity involves something in action, not static like a state you can measure.
It’s hard for us to argue against your position because it is an amalgamation of overly complicated and longly worded beliefs that you don’t seem to have the ability to communicate to most others who are interested despite your “logical argumentation”.
Does death and the inability or ability to reproduce predictably impact the fixation of traits and the promulgation of populations with those traits? Is it important at all? Has it ever happened? Does it happen now?
normal people understand what I am saying
i don’t need the be anal in the way I present myself like you do rr
i am being ignored because it disproves your position
my explanations and examples were good
people should look them up
differences in DNA sequences make the metabolic feedback loops different effecting phenotype
it all works together
you don’t need argumentation to understand
Cat thank you for maintaining calmness and civility while debating RR. This indicates high g.
“differences in DNA sequences make the metabolic feedback loops different effecting phenotype”
What evidence and argument exists for this claim? Tapping the sign again for people (AK) who won’t read:
“Differences in DNA do not necessarily, or even usually, result in differences in phenotype. The great majority, 80%, of knockouts in yeast, for example, are normally ‘silent’ (Hillenmeyer et al. 2008). While there must be underlying effects in the protein networks, these are clearly buffered at the higher levels. The phenotypic effects therefore appear only when the organism is metabolically stressed, and even then they do not reveal the precise quantitative contributions for reasons I have explained elsewhere (Noble, 2011). The failure of knockouts to systematically and reliably reveal gene functions is one of the great (and expensive) disappointments of recent biology. Note, however, that the disappointment exists only in the gene-centred view. By contrast it is an exciting challenge from the systems perspective. This very effective ‘buffering’ of genetic change is itself an important systems property of cells and organisms.”
i repeatedly said protein shapes matter to protein networks but you don’t care
and I don’t know why you think macro structure is the only phenotype.
the whole organism is the phenotype
down to the molecules
so if a protein found in one organism is not found in another then it’s phenotype is different
every organism is a different phenotype in itself because no two organisms have the exact same metabolic protein networks.
thus proteins will, given their shapes, effect the looping cycles of all shapes in the organism. At all levels.
rr is confused
a taxonomy is not phenotype
all the shapes matter, small and large, inside and outside
genes being knocked out effects the organism micro and macro shapes so that’s not an argument against genes effecting phenotype
And even if I said yes, hair color can be effected by genes as the most basic example of genetics we know about on the macro scale. (Plus glow in the dark monkeys)
why is rr so dumb?
i saw a video by Steve Hsu that said knocking out genes is proof genes are additive.
if you have a network that depends on all the genes being dependent on each other i.e. irreducible complexity of the loops then one change breaks it all and the organism dies.
and since genes are additive he is looking for how intelligence can be effected by the additive effects of Genes.
in my view a brains metabolism will change by these effects and so a brain will crystallize at different rates because of the process of proteins shapes in metabolic looping. Such as the distribution of neurotransmitters, the size of structures, what foods with grow them. And the recovery times of them. Capillary systems. Glial cells. Inflammation. Trauma response rates.
this all makes the shape of the network different when growing. The symmetries.
feedback is complicated but it matters because the brains adaptation is creating more or less a memory system that remembers and works with information. The system then because of symmetry will have more or less information being integrated.
some again the distribution of molecules molds the brain to have better memory in some parts rather than other’s depending on the feedback received internally.
i don’t see well but some brain areas work better than others. Brain plastic is made of different materials that reshapes itself by the impact of environment but then not everyone’s brain plastic has the same symmetry as others.
overall some peoples memory can symmetrically integrate more.
thus a reason why they have better performance on those tests that require keeping multiple things in mind (shapes and what they can do)
understanding what things do then, in using that information to accomplish a task, depends on, in fluid intelligence the capability to perceive multiple things and to project the greater number of their consequences.
Dealing with greater complexity by prioritization.
“so if a protein found in one organism is not found in another then it’s phenotype is different”
Proof?
“genes being knocked out effects the organism micro”
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2020/01/14/genes-and-disease-reductionism-and-knockouts/
“genes are additive”
Imagine believing this in 2025.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4888873/
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2023/09/30/missing-heritability-and-missing-children/
if you don’t want to engage in a discussion then don’t
i said what I was supposed to for you to understand but you don’t want to
maybe this is why you were put is special education
because you don’t want to learn (obstanance)
for those who are not trolling like rr is
taxonomy is not phenotype because all shapes matter in an organism
if genes were not additive then they would be irreducibly complex and organisms would die more often, too short to reproduce.
the fact that rr is selectively quoting shows he cannot deal with the reasoning behind what I am saying.
Where’s the proof for your claim? What’s the argument that the additivity assumption is true?
you don’t accept that metabolic loop processes exist so what am I supposed to say?
Waiting…
i gave my reasoning
rr is too stupid to understand?
Are you too stupid to answer the questions?
“Where’s the proof for your claim? What’s the argument that the additivity assumption is true?”
you don’t need argumention
i gave logical reasons why it is true
each part of my reasoning adds together showing additive effects of genes exist.
proteins exist
and so if more exist
they add together in metabolic feedback homeostasis
otherwise you need all of them exactly as they are meaning you miss one the whole organism dies.
evolution by slight variation would be impossible
once again all organisms have different phenotype
every body and brain in an individual in animals has always been unique
Taxonomy is the outside feature of organism in hierarchal classes but phenotype is everything inside the organism.
phenotype is the individual
taxonomy is the shared things between groups
genes effect the metabolic phenotype
as the example I gave of neurotransmitters distribution increasing and decreasing in different areas of a brain, this is because of the shapes of proteins effected by genes in metabolism and environmental impacts
you don’t read
What do you think the entailments of the additivity assumption are? Any idea what violations of the assumption entail?
Hint: INDEPENDENT GENETIC EFFECTS.
IQ test question: If the view I hold on DST is true, what follows about the additivity assumption (independent genetic effects)?
Google tells me both dependant and independent genetic effects are found in cell biology.
it seems to me that when gnome link says I have a gene that allows me to have a bigger input and output to my hippocampus I believe them.
when genome link says my cannabinoids receptors are non functional I believe them because I don’t get pain relief from THC. Every time I did weed (3 times) I hallucinated. It was not fun.
you tell me what that means?
in my view intelligence is based on feedback loops in the brain.
as brains grow they grow in asymmetric patterns and yet the more they can grow in different areas of the brain at the rates they do then they get better at different things.
it is not unimaginable that should these loops grow in some ways and not others that they can be better or worse overall in what they do
my example is photo realistic drawing
i am sure it in not because of a priori platonic heaven that I cannot drawn and my sister can. It is in the brain.
genes in my view effect the symmetries of growth patterns in the brain by the metabolic feedback they influence with protein shapes.
“proteins exist”
“differences exist”
That’s not under contention. You CAN’T quote me saying those DON’T exist.
The rest of your comment is confused, since you don’t understand what it is you’re talking about.
If independent genetic effects (the additivity assumption) are true, then DST is false. But if DST is true, then the additivity assumption is false and GxE is true. So if independent genetic effects are false, then it’s GxE not G+E.
The additivity assumption assumes genetic effects on a trait are independent plane additive, meaning that the combined effect of multiple genes is the sums of their individual effects, sans epistasis (interaction between genes) or genes and environment (GxE). But DST rejects that claim, since traits are the result of complex, irreducible interactions between developmental resources. DST emphasizes dynamic, non-additive interactions between genes, environment and developmental resources. So if the additivity assumption holds, then DST can’t be true. But if DST is true then traits arise from complex interactions which REJECT the additivity assumption. So if the additivity assumption is false, then genetic effects aren’t additive. (Note that this argument obviously attacks heritability estimates too since they assume non-interaction between resources/G and E.)
Let’s see if you can refute the argument without going off on unrelated tangents. (Prediction: You can’t.)
metabolic phenotype can both be additive and interactive egfects
you don’t understand
and:
(glow in the dark monkeys exist)
you still denied that protein shapes were important for metabolism in dec 2023 because of all the bullying you did back then calling it stupid and nonsense.
every time I explain something you bully me about it, you are a jerk and I don’t appreciate it
loops exist
They are important
they matter but you still won’t say they matter
because you don’t want brains to have differences in intelligence so no differences at all
Further the reason rr kept discounting that the shapes of proteins mattered to metabolism is that if what I was saying is true then brains can be different and if that is true then people can be different in intelligence. If that is the case the measurements of this is possible.
we must conclude proteins having shapes is a threat to his views on intelligence being measurable.
he must defeat all aspects that can lead to measurability of intelligence including simple facts like proteins having shapes.
his bulling was based on this
your a pot head
that’s nonsense
your stupid
blah blah blah
“you still denied that protein shapes were important for metabolism in dec 2023”
Quote me.
“loops exist
They are important
they matter but you still won’t say they matter”
How do you infer that I believe that don’t—do you even know what DST is and the assumptions and implications of DST?
Brains are different but that doesn’t lead to your reductionist-hereditarian view being true. You obviously don’t understand DST. Sad.
Can you refute the argument or not? Or will this be another argument you ignore for years?
refutation is not what is needed to falsify your claims
argumentation is not what I need to disprove
i have been giving my responses as good reasoning and they show what I am saying is true
you have ignored it all
brains being different in intelligence is not reductionist nor hereditarian.
Metabolic loops matter to this and you ignore it
i am tired interacting with such an ignorant person so bye
“The reason rr doesn’t believe in self regulation of cell metabolism is that feedback loops exist as to keeping the cell stable and not fall apart. But he keeps saying I am stupid for believing feedback loops exist.”
Quote me saying any of this.
“scientific demonstration”
Like?
Every time I mention feedback loops you call me stupid.
that is enough proof
Where?
go back to pps threads in December
Dec 2023
You should just quote it for me here.
no,
as always you ignore me
you are frightened of being disproven
If it exists then it should be easy for you to provide the timestamp and quote.
i made an image of a cat
and of Carl sagan
rr said they were stupid
because loops don’t matter to him
id post them again but rr is being an troll and would insult me again
they were not nonsense
they made perfect sense
Feedback loops do matter
rr don’t care
Just give me the timestamp and quote.
no you troll
you are already discounting me on views on feedback
if loops mattered to you then you would engage but you don’t.
So you can’t give a quote and timestamp? How can you say that I say that “loops don’t matter” when that’s demonstrably false? Go ahead and quote me saying that.
Even in the comments above you discount additive effects of genes and what they mean for intelligence and phenotype because they involve metabolic loops.
You don’t care rr
Because it’s demonstrably false that genes are additive.
and irreducible complexity is true then?
What do you mean by that? After you explain what you mean, can you explain how it follows that genes not being additive means that irreducible complexity is true (in this instance)?
you said genes can be knockout and the cell still functions. Irreducible complexity requires all Genes because if not then each gene adds something which is a protein that not all proteins are needed but still add together, you still get changed but all together phenotype will not be the same because phenotype is not taxonomy.
reread what I said on how metabolic loops work
the distribution of the proteins regulate what happens as to the internal shapes in phenotype as phenotype is not taxonomy
a brains regulation is also effected by this but that still means any changes at all will effect phenotype (phenotype is not taxonomy!)
do you understand?
phenotype is everything in the organism, taxonomy is just the outside classification system like bipedal even though humans and chimps are not the same (no organism is the exact same as another)
“you said genes can be knockout and the cell still functions.”
Does genetic compensation exist or not?
“a protein that not all proteins are needed but still add together”
Are you high or do you not understand what is meant by “the additivity assumption” and what I mean by it and the entailments that hold if it were true?
independent and dependant effects exist
you don’t give any context why they would not
in rr world view intelligence is not measurable because measurable intelligence leads to racial and economic class division.
so of course genetics cannot effect brains to be more or less intelligent
that is his motivated goal
protein shapes don’t exist
so metabolic loops don’t exist
so brains cannot have different phenotypes
so intelligence cannot be different
so intelligence cannot be detected as differences in different individuals
rr has been “developing” his views on this a long time
“in rr world view intelligence is not measurable because measurable intelligence leads to racial and economic class division.”
That’s not my position.
“protein shapes don’t exist
so metabolic loops don’t exist”
Quote me saying this.
Can you explain my position to me?
you are not acknowledging that intelligence can be different because of metabolic loops
for one reason
if anything I said is true you need to change you position on many other things.
and you said you want to ban IQ tests so it all goes together.
You are arguing in bad faith on everything I say so I will never conceded that I am 100% wrong about everything you say I am. I am not 100% wrong. You don’t care. You need me to be for your agenda.
When I say rr doesn’t believe in feedback loops or anything else I say when clearly they exist it is because they are connected to evidence against his views.
melo said I don’t understand his views because he is a troll. How can I be disproving them consistently if I don’t understand? So melo is a troll.
when I say something true it is ignored because it can disprove rr so fuck you melo for agreeing with rr
Again if you have evidence against a someone’s views and it is true then the reason you don’t want to engage with them is because you don’t want those views to spread. And in politics culturalMarxism is about spreading views true or false to achieve your agenda. So I am against it.
I believe honesty is more important than achieving anything the cultural Marxists want because you cannot trust dishonest people. culturalMarxism like in rr and melo’s case makes people believe lies and when the culture is full of lies you cannot trust anyone.
That is why politics is incompatible with science. In politics you can lie to get what you want(rr and melo) but in science lies are fought against as much as possible. You cannot trust anyone with an agenda to tell the truth as the Marxist need people to believe lies. Thus it matters to keep Marxism out of the schools, not by suppression but by telling the truth.
Lies die because truth works more often then the lies.
You can do the maths and experiments yourself in science but in politics you must fully believe the ideology and people are not fully brainwashed to do so yet.
Observation works.
You are that animekitty guy right?
correct
Do you take an interest in me?
I’m not sure but I might have asked you to type me since you like to make MBTI evaluations of other members. In case I haven’t asked this before- what is your evaluation of my type?
I have not interacted with you much but it is clear you are a thinker or you would not be here.
and you do not seem to be overly expensive so maybe introvert
IxTx
I see, in various mbti evaluations (like that one quiz with 256 questions or something like that) my top result tends to be INTP followed by INTJ and INFJ.
Even if Trump is not literally a Russian agent, at the very least he’s just a bad negotiator.
I understand the logic behind trying to brown nose Russia and being harder on Ukraine, but this only makes sense if you operate under the assumption that Russia is doing this as an act of defense.
BUT WE KOW THAT’S NOT TRUE! Russia has made it clear that Ukraine shouldn’t exist. AND THEY FUCKING INVADED!
So, now the dumbass is having backtrack and make open threats to Russia because they aren’t just backing off. On top of that our allies aren’t falling for the fucking trade war. And everyone, except cuckservatives and their dumbass god-king knew this would happen!
Honestly Trump himself is probably just a victim of the same Russian propaganda that his supporters fall for. You guys remember when he said Haitians were eating cats and dogs? When pressed on that he said he assumed it was true because he saw someone say it on TV….like WTF.
So really what’s happening is we have one of the lowest IQ presidents in the history of ever who is over confidant in his social intelligence…. sounds like some people on this blog.
Chinese delegate says the country is ‘not worried’ about Trump tarrifs
Won’t let me embed YouTube shorts.
Anyway, China gives no fucks. Our century is over. They literally view Trump and the US as a joke.
We ruined it and it’s all Republican’s faults. It’s all your fault. Nothing to do with multiculturalism. Nothing to do with progressivism. It has EVERYTHING to do with the demonization of educational institutions, and the complete capitulation to our corporate overlords.
Go cry some more. None of the little things you’re afraid of and you’re whining about even matters in the long run.
Really weird to be an HBDer and think that average IQ declining overtime doesn’t matter.
intelligence has gone up but IQ went down because IQ is a math thing
more dumb people does not cancel out smart people in the real world but in math it does
What’s the distinction?
rr does not understand
the persons of high intelligence still exist even when the distribution bell curve shifts to left.
in fact more people of high IQ have been concentrated together as taken out of the general population(brain drain)
and the way the earths population is sampled has changed
they test more areas where people are disadvantaged shifting the sample numbers left
The math of bell curves rr should look up but he won’t just like he won’t learn about gene differences of organisms and phenotype.
What’s the distinction though?
if I told you
you would ignore me
call me stupid
–
and it doesn’t matter because melo is wrong
Can you tell me or not?
I said it was to do with loops but you are trolling me about it so you can fuck off
What’s the distinction? Can you quote me saying what you said I said or will you finally retract that statement?
retract what statement?
intelligence is not IQ
what I said to melo is true
its not my fault you don’t understand what I said to him.
intelligence at the high end still exists even if iq goes down for the entire population is true.
i explained it but
rr is being a butt head
i e
doesn’t care if it is true and is going on a different tangent.
i cannot go on that tangent because he will definitely deny what I say is true.
he just wants to score points trying to make me look bad like any internet bully does.
Unless you tell me why you are asking the question rr I am not going to answer because I know it is just to bully me like you always do.
Do you not know what you said previously? Just reread your first comment in this chain.
rr is a bad faith actor
what I said to melo I can explain to melo because melo will acknowledge what I say. rr will always say I am 100% wrong so I cannot say anything to rr that will change this.
Trump is trying to cut spending and increase GDP by gutting the federal government, annexing Canada and Greenland, and cutting mineral deals to other countries.
Why won’t this work? Well because no one’s going to let him annex other countries. This isn’t Civ 5. This isn’t risk. You’re playing with people’s fucking lives, and when you cut funding to a lot of shit that you don’t know anything about you end up harming our country. Like the funding cuts to Columbia University. Another example of why China is beating us. We HATE education. And it’s because of people like Lurker, and Mugabe who have been literally brainwashed into thinking education is fake and gay.
Cutting federal spending by going through the budget with a scalpel, rather than a chainsaw, and cutting mineral deals with other countries in exchange for military aid, is actually a good idea. But that requires finesse, nuance, humility, and intelligence. IT ALSO REQUIRES KEEPING OUR SOFTPOWER ACROSS THE GLOBE!
Trump has and does none of that.
The $400 million he cut from Columbia was to punish them for criticizing Israel
“And it’s because of people like Lurker, and Mugabe who have been literally brainwashed into thinking education is fake and gay.”
Strawman. I’ve had some really good teachers, but unfortunately, I’m sorry to inform you but some people are wasted time and moneysinks trying to get them the same level as everyone else. Furthermore, modern education chooses and creates people who are successful doormats, not intelligence itself.
I cut my classes all the time until high school and still did great on many tests. I know turds who basically never missed class and didn’t do well either. It’s called being a Mexican whose parents don’t speak English and having an apparently low capacity for intelligence. My parents didn’t really teach me that much either; I never got tutoring by them in any fashion, nor were they terribly educated.
“Cutting federal spending by going through the budget with a scalpel, rather than a chainsaw, and cutting mineral deals with other countries in exchange for military aid, is actually a good idea. But that requires finesse, nuance, humility, and intelligence. IT ALSO REQUIRES KEEPING OUR SOFTPOWER ACROSS THE GLOBE! “
Unfortunately “we” don’t have soft power, globalists do. And they’re the reason we can’t cut through the budget with scalpel.
“Furthermore, modern education chooses and creates people who are successful doormats, not intelligence itself.”
That’s not really true. And when I say you and dipshit think education is fake and gay, what I’m referring to is your belief that education is geared toward brainwashing children to being more progressive, therefore, we should burn it down.
You don’t believe in investing in people because your ideology is inherently anti-intellectual.
“I cut my classes all the time until high school and still did great on many tests”
Same, but the difference is I developed my critical thinking skills, and my mother instilled empathy into me. And that’s what I’m talking about. Schools need to be equipped to teach kids these kinds of things. Clearly being good at math isn’t enough because we have dumbasses like you running around who did fine in school but are still racist and irrational.
““we” don’t have soft power, globalists do.”
This is such a nonsensical thing to say.
in school I learned evolution was not what they taught at bible camp
so yes education is “brainwashing” kids to be “progressive” to them
melo cannot understand
but I understand hating whites in not progressive
neither is Marxism
Well yes I agree everyone everywhere should be as intellectual as they can possibly be but there are always opportunity costs. I don’t see why you can’t get that through your thick skull.
That doesn’t mean there’s some limit to how “educated” a population or person can be but there are always finite time and resource constraints and diminishing returns. We can all be “ubermensch” but it’s not going to be through a bunch of factory schooling where money is frivously spent on iPads and gyms for the dumbest students with the lowest outcomes.
And yes there is definitely a bias, in effect or directly, towards Marxist thought, or equity or anti-Whitism. Look at the graph for education vs. vaccine hesitancy. The most educated (PhD degrees) were actually more vaccine hesitant than those with less schooling, who were less hesitant than those with no college or college dropouts. So that indicates there is a sorting towards a particular type of person or cognitive profile for those who are the average “educated” person.
“so yes education is “brainwashing” kids to be “progressive” to them”
Everyone has different perspectives Cat, but not everyone’s perspective aligns with reality.
“but it’s not going to be through a bunch of factory schooling where money is frivously spent on iPads and gyms for the dumbest students with the lowest outcomes.”
The argument from efficiency is so dumb because educating your populace has such a YUGE return on investment. School is not the end all be all to the psychological development of an individual but it is where everything begins.
“And yes there is definitely a bias, in effect or directly, towards Marxist thought, or equity or anti-Whitism”
There’s not a bias towards either of those things. Education is based on science and empathy. Neither of those things are anti-white or Marxist.
Our education system is also based on credentialism and cowtowing to those in power so that you can get those credentials, which on a small scale may be self-sacrificial empathetic teachers and students but on a collective or larger scale are people who fall victim to the same “woke-mind virus” and those in the top of our economic system as well as for example, endowments by corporations and globalist bankers through various means at their disposal (which is basically anything involving whatever they own, which is basically everything in some way).
factory schooling is what I referred to mug about math
if you drop out it is because they screen you by a filter
if you don’t make the cut it is because the filter has holes in it, smart kids placed in special Ed left to rot.
and 30 kids a class: those that were attentive got out the rest the teachers ignored
if melo wants kids to be educated he needs to show how to design a better system of personalized education. The education the elites currently have. And spread this to everyone.
it is a hard problem and people wine about it but unless it is done people don’t all get the same learning.
i for example know that EEG headsets can detect how much kids learn by the maths inside them at top facilities.
we don’t have this in most places so stop whining and start funding
elon musk made some kind of software for education I saw but I don’t know where he is sending it.
plus food programs need more health stuff – Kennedy is working on that as well
Everything that melo wants for kids the people he hates are doing it, so shut up
distribution requires logistics not killing rich people as in Marxism
What do you think about Kennedy’s other positions?
I am not going on that tangent here
education is what matters
Someone should educate him that his views will lead to people dying and make America unhealthy.
so rr has nothing to say about the education system. All rr cares about is pissing people off for no good reason.
that’s not nice
healthy food is very important for children
and kids need more food than school programs give them.
most government food is sh*t
have you ever tasted government cheese before?
it is because the military was hired to make the food at first in the 1950’s 60’s and 70’s
most people then don’t know the difference between cool aid and real orange juice.
today the military has better food but the civilians got the leftovers surplus that was rejected by there own standards.
this needs to change
kids need less Florida in the water and more sleep.
young kids should be going to school at least 2 hours later than 7 o’clock.
sleep deprivation damage the brain
preservatives in food is bad too
as when the school districts came to be the rich areas got more funding. And the poor States got less support federally.
local is good but is degregates those who have no money.
programs should look at the health of kids and not penalize schools for poor test scores.
the bush programs took away money from poor schools as a way to hurt poor people who could not afford good teachers.
instead of restructuring the schools to be better like renovation they took kids food away.
No child left behind = leave the poor kids behind
war on drugs = increase drugs
just say no = more incarcerations
every time the government makes a program it it to do the opposite of what it is named.
kennedy might fix that
the government assacinated his dad?
but then maybe some rich people like bush don’t want poor people to get what they need.
something I saw in the interview in Congress
people hate Kennedy because he wants to help poor people
but he is anti establishment
I am not in favor of cutting education but there is a reason the cooperations dominate. They look for people who graduated from elite schools to be the leadership. So melo shoots himself in the foot saying we need education but don’t want the smart people in charge.
Those at the top know they can stay in charge if the people they higher get money for doing high skilled work.
So those that get placed at the top get replaced by the more capable.
Melo is in fact saying we need better oligarchy
Watching Rachel Maddow sell out and become a neocon puppet. She became the thing she went into media to stop.
Thats even worse than what they did to fetterman
The neocons.
I think the entire comment section can agree they are the bad guys, right?
Even Melo and RR have to grudgingly admit it ahaha
Do jews make music? No. No they dont. You need feelings to make music.
Have you completely lost your mind? Jews are dramatically overrepresented in music. Ever heard of Bob Dylan & Paul Simon? Why is your judgement so bad & general knowledge so poor?
Those guys are from the 1960s.
so are you.
Did you Paul Simon basically ripped off a bunch of lesser well-known artists for his comeback album, Graceland?
I keep telling you he’s not real.
Nobody actually believes this kind of shit. He’s just trolling.
nobody SANE believes it. He’s a clinical psychotic with suspected autism.
“jews are dramatically overrepresented in music” = i make shit up and then claim it’s a fact.
sad.
klezmer music.
Oprah was not considered beautiful but that what makes her so impressive because one more problem she had to adapt to.
But you can’t be talking about anyone’s looks because you’re ENORMOUSLY less sexy than anyone else in the comment section. If I asked the average woman who in the comment section they’d want to have sex with she’d reply “not him” pointing at you.
The Coop isnt a great singer.
Alice Cooper – Poison
But hes a great songwriter.
Most rock songs in the 80s were garbage. His had melodies.
Ronnie Foster Trio – Mystic Brew
Blacks evolved to have the highest music IQs. 100% accept that. There , happy RR?
4 groups immune from religion:
i suppose everything else is autism lol
(most average people can be categorized as such by pill)
i.e. 20 to 30%
Pearl Jam – Dissident (Official Visualizer)
Puppy/Anime/Bruno would be the stupid bitch that calls the authorities and sells out the good guy
trump most insane quotes out of context
Some of these quotes made me laugh into tears.
The one where he said he always thought Kamala was indian at the black jorunlaist conference. HAHAHAHA. I actually nearly died from laughter. That event was th best thing in political history.
PP isn’t posting comments on a Sunday morning because he and Mugabe are holding hands in the pews at the Holy Church of Black Lesbians
It’s true I’m the pew.
Maybe trump should just stop being a politican and become a professional troll like Katie Hopkins or that Milo gay guy
Ex CIA agent talking about why the CIA hates Israel. Zionism is just another form of White Supremacy.
PP can I have another guest post pls
yes (assuming it’s similar quality & relevance)
I think it will be better
I want to use question 10 from the PATMA to illustrate something. Since you let me post an explanation of how I solved it years ago, I take it there are no problems discussing it in a guest post now, right?
Please figure out another way to illustrate your point. The PATMA is the most g loaded test I’ve ever made. I can’t afford to sacrifice any part of it & enough time has almost passed that I may reintroduce the revised version
Question 10 on the PATMA would be a convenient starting point, but I can do without it. I’m eager to see the revised version. Might you consider naming it the Pumpkin Revised Adult General Mental Ability Test Involving Solving Mathematics?