Yesterday the World was rocked by the news that President Jimmy Carter passed away. One of the moral men to ever occupy the the White House. From The Guardian:
I asked AI to create a song about him and it did a nice job:
RIP Jimmy Carter
30 Monday Dec 2024
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Pumpkin Person 
I’m probably late to the party but I’ve been watching Lost and I’ve been absolutely obsessed with it. I’m at the beginning of season 5 and I think the writing is so witty and I’m loving how they’re showing the story. I’ll probably watch The 100 next.
^^ Religious person
What?
List of Puppys anti science beliefs
Believes blacks have similar IQs to most races i.e the 80s even though all the empirical evidence is contrary e.g Lynn, World PISA scores, international studies of cognition. The discoverer of DNA, the worlds smartest man and Rushton all agree it is probably in the 60s.
A group with the genetic potential to score 80 in the First World will score below 70 in their home countries because it takes average IQs near 100 to create the first world environments that allow one to reach their genetic potential.
Puppy believes there are more black geniuses than white or jewish geniuses.
FALSE!
Puppy believes evolution does not apply to human beings.
FALSE
Puppy thinks evolution only applies to planet earth and therefore believes in intelligent design. (I also believe in intelligent design but not in this religious way)
It only applies to planets with life and so far Earth is the only known one
Puppy said the soul exists and therefore, believes in an afterlife.
Non sequitur
Puppy endorses Marianne Williamson and Oprah’s views on The Secret and that human beings can use ‘psychic willpower’ to change events and physical occurence.
No THE SECRET is nonsense, but if Jewish and Arab men like Jesus and Muhammad get to start religions based on nonsense, why not Oprah?
Puppy does not believe in aliens. Aliens are a mathematical fact. Even Bruno agreed with me on this. Puppy is religious – so denies mathematics and the theory of evolution.
I believe aliens have NOT visited Earth. I’m agnostic on whether they exist. They are only a mathematical fact if you think the number of habitable planets greatly exceeds the rarity of bio-genesis and we can’t estimate the rarity of bio-genesis when Earth is the only known example of it.
Puppy is anti-math. He said a survey of 100 people on their top 3 heroes would create a list of 300 seperate names.
LIE!
Puppy says that using probability and profiling is ‘racist’. Any attempts to describe an aggregate racial behaviour eg paedophilia, predilection to rape women, probability of violence etc is ‘racist’ and goes against his religion.
You don’t cite statistics, you just make racist assertions which may or may not be true
Disagrees that testosterone causes blacks to be more violent. Disagrees testosterone causes aggression full stop. No doctor. No physiologist. No healthcare professional in human history agrees with this.
You’re confusing me with RR. I agree testosterone causes violence.
Believes the ‘mind’ is seperate from the body. No psychologist or psychiatrist on planet earth would agree with this. Every single one accepts the efficacy of pharmaceuticals and drugs on the brain/mind. No evidence that the mind exists in a seperate dimension. Just says it repeatedly.
This is RR’s belief. I just entertained it.
Thinks evolution is ‘progressive’ and always ends up in human beings.
No by progressive I mean most life forms are more adaptable than their ancestors.
are you guys even familiar with the scientific method n how it works? Or any actual scientific composition of reality? Because it usually implies that 2 gain an observation u must assess it in the 4m of a measurable n responsive situation or categorization
so basically u would need 2 gather a set of data in a specific condition n then compare 2 another set of conditions 2 get what u want
essentially it happens that blacks have low IQ because of more than a couple variables in one direction
it happens that evolution occurs because there are more variables shifting it one way than another this is just a matter of dichotomy of systems
“Believes blacks have similar IQs to most races i.e the 80s even though all the empirical evidence is contrary e.g Lynn, World PISA scores,”
We know that Lynn cherry-picked studies that agreed with him. We know that PISA and similar tests are tests of what one HAS learned.
“The discoverer of DNA, the worlds smartest man and Rushton all agree it is probably in the 60s”
Who cares? They’re wrong.
“Puppy believes evolution does not apply to human beings.”
Quote him.
“Puppy said the soul exists and therefore, believes in an afterlife.”
He didn’t say say that. He said he’s agnostic on the issue. Your memory is horrible.
“Disagrees that testosterone causes blacks to be more violent. Disagrees testosterone causes aggression full stop. No doctor. No physiologist. No healthcare professional in human history agrees with this.”
That’s my belief, dumbass. And I’ve argued for it pretty well.
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2017/06/18/why-testosterone-does-not-cause-crime/
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2018/01/28/race-testosterone-aggression-and-prostate-cancer/
“Believes the ‘mind’ is seperate from the body.”
That’s my belief, dumbass.
U r religious in that u believe all whites r superior 2 members of other races or something along those blurred lines because u seem 2 be going back n 4th with ur retarded beliefs.
There r plenty of people of every race that have a higher iq than the average white I dont get why u speak like u have something extraordinary in saying whites are the most intelligent
I’d roll on the floor n laugh so hard if it turned out u weren’t even white or not full white because it is just plain stupid 2 be a white supremacist as much as u are n find any rationality behind it!
To his credit, Mugabe when confronted with evidence changes his mind on his religious beliefs. Puppy is the opposite. When confronted with evidence, Puppy emphasis that his religious beliefs are superior and more ‘supported’ (by who? Jews?). Drags the entire debate into a word definition game to avoid acknowledging evidence.
To his credit, Mugabe when confronted with evidence changes his mind on his religious beliefs.
Unlike me, Mug of Pee is legit religious which I define as worshipping something so much you believe it have supernatural powers. He believes Jesus returned from the dead.
Puppy is the opposite. When confronted with evidence, Puppy emphasis that his religious beliefs are superior and more ‘supported’ (by who? Jews?). Drags the entire debate into a word definition game to avoid acknowledging evidence.
Confusing me with RR
He doesn’t even know what he’s talking about.
why do white supremacists always have an extreme need 2 contextualize everything as a basis of their excellence n success when whites r an extremely diverse race that the smartest whites come from upper classes n Irish Travelling scum like Pill r poor n stupid n could never come up with a genius even if they bred like rabbits 4 hundreds of years as they’ve been doing
kinda weird in my honest belief
I just think its funny that Pill Lurker all these white guys r so autistic they see race as being the only thing worth mentioning about a person when gene pools mix all the time etc
Because, just as it is important to consider humanity as a collective, and not just value people for their individual wealth or “accomplishments”, so is it for races, or families. The world needs people doing all sorts of roles, even if they aren’t big payers in our monopoly finance economy.
Collectively, “stupid” or “backwards” Whites are still valued if they are fulfilling a useful role, because not all “genius” (in terms of actual accomplishments for individuals or society) is purely IQ… just as “stupid” or poor races are not necessarily “inferior”.
Of course we still need some standards.
I mean, you’d probably rather have a friend around who was dependable, wise, conscientious, cheerful, moral and full of long-term values, etc. that scored 10 IQ points lower than another friend who was the exact opposite and had every vice. That’s kind of why people are annoyed with you here, even more than Philosopher or Mugabe, despite you not necessarily being stupider than them, because your comments are harder to read and more obviously always defensive.
LOADED is right. but this is something no one knew or could have known prior to the discovery and decoding of DNA and globalization.
BUT LOADED is wrong to confuse national socialism with supremacism. the mafia is italian. saying race and nationality should have no political significance is like saying the nuclear family should have no significance.
it doesn’t matter how big a cunt your relatives may be, you will still feel a duty to them you don’t feel for strangers, and there is a very good reason for this. not just a darwinian reason but a moral reason.
Lurker why do you always attack my personal character when I comment on here? I mean id the same with you because you seem 2 be a terribly flawed angry loser but only i I knew u better!
you make the weirdest generalizations about my comments like ur looking 4 something I said 2 be wrong or something really weird along those lines
honestly it doesn’t serve much purpose 2 keep u in the loop any more pls refrain from commenting about me n ill do the same 4 u but I feel like ur 2 childish 2 play along with this proposition so if u choose a war of words can spark!
Lurker why do you always attack my personal character
Because you’ve attacked the character of everyone here and people are taking revenge. It is a revenge they will continue to take until you learn to turn the other cheek, stop stroking your own ego and contribute something of value to the discussion.
Pill is such an idiot the Bible is literally the first n main account of white supremacy out there
it literally states that miscegenation is the worst sin n other really fucked up white supremacist worldviews
the Bible is probably worse in sum ways or at least a predecessor 2 the Mein Kampf
believing whites r sum superior race is a religion of itself who thinks like that etc because this is the 21st century where science disproves that n shows that a planet as intricate as ours cannot hold on2 beliefs like that
but whatever
it’s obvious from the example of south korea today and in the recent past and north korea that there is no “master race”.
but to say the nazis thought germans were the master race is a total misunderstanding or a deliberate misrepresentation.
the mars dream was stillborn.
the national socialist dream is alive and well in iceland and denmark and it shall never die.
the US can NEVER be that dream.
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Lurker are you aware that my morality personality etc r considerably stronger n better suited than my intelligence?
im quite honestly the least nihilistic person left in the modern world obvi an exaggeration but not a moot point at all!
Anime is an asshole otherwise he would tell u how great of a person I am because that’s all he ever said 2 me in our convos 2gether
U dont know me personally any of u n anime thinks he knows me but he is a piece of shit id just like u all 2 stop pretending!
it requires little effort 2 not engage negatively with me I am defensive because that what motivates n excites me
what I am saying the whole lot of u are very hypocritical n have a lot of double standards 2 things!
so i was thinking about how elon musk is retarded. peirs morgan said he wants to occupy mars because in a billion years the earth will be uninhabitable because sun will expand.
okay. but…
an electric car is only/at most as good as its source of electricity.
cheaper rockets is great per se. but why does the earth need more communications satellites?
It’s not just about the sun. Colonizing Mars would preserve humans if Earth gets struck by a meteor like the one that killed off the dinosaurs
mel gibson fan club thanks you.
BUT my point remains.
good idea.
wrong time.
terraforming mars will be A LOT HARDER than making earth live-able post asteroid or whatever.
Mars faces the same levels of extinction 4 humans as does any other planet we could inhabit theres probably more likelihood we would get hit by a meteor there than here dont get ur point at all
Mara has no tech there starting from scratch is a terrible idea in a long run as well but honestly the moon is a better idea than Mars
I dont see why Lurker always gives me weird backhanded compliments like just accept im not writing 4 u n I don’t like u like at all
anyways Id say Musk is an idiot conman so is Trump but theyre right that people even very otherwise highly intelligent people are 2 stupid 2 survive n exist
like who would buy anything these fools tell the public I mean all they do is lie anyways!
plus I find it weird they talk about these grand ideas of theirs like theyre sincerely the only people who’ve thought about it because invading Greenland n occupying Mars have been cultural tropes since 4ever
Get help loaded.
This is the last time I will interact with you.
When I first heard you and Loaded had become friends outside this blog I was so happy, but sadly, we now know Loaded isn’t capable of being friends with anyone until he heals his deep seated psychological issues which he’s not capable of doing.
We did all we could for him, but time to shut the mental hospital door and throw away the key:
no i have a lot of friends n have had a lot of friends throughout my entire life all of u r either autistic or schizo so u dont realize talent when u see it!
im so much more mentally stable n a better person than any of you!
you guys r real evil stupid people! What a waste of a lifetime being on this shithole blog!
@policy wonk
Temple grandin says three types of thinking exist: pattern recognition, visual data and verbal.
The idea I had was like the combination of the first two. If a person has like 64 data points in mind. Then they can compare one objective to another object as 32 x 32 – or a shape with 4 angles with a shape with 4 angles at a lower IQ (8) = 115
The point is that this would happen in space so complicated objects would move and have parts on them and be many objects. These objects would have variables or multiple uses.
There are many ways to federate object groups comparisons. But it would be systems level thinking.
The 15 points is just a guess. But I don’t want to create too big an explosion of parts. And since parts are 3D it cube’s. As objects get bigger then it makes sense that when you are putting them together they fit inside volumes not surfaces. The rate of increase of complexity then is apparent.
The Homer Simpson thing is where I reference what I happen to know about the creators of the show. Most of them I was aware of were selected because they were high in intelligence. They make the show funny but also try to be scientific accurate in some areas of it to add some humor.
Canonically homers true IQ is 105 but he has brain damage. It was fixed one episode and later he was shown doing rubrics cubes in a basket. I simply used this as an analogy to how there is an algorithm. It then is humorous that Homer is 105 and doing things the show expects 105 people to do.
In the middle of the show Homer ruined a movie for people telling them the spoilers because the plot was predictable. He exists the theater and yells “Is there no place in this world for the man with a 105 IQ”
Homer later has surgery to reduce his IQ back to 55 – but in the end Lisa reads the letter saying how proud he is of her because of his experiences being smarter in that period of time.
So I expect 3D pattern recognition to increase many times by 15 points.
The puzzles I do are level 6 hanayama and those are mensa hard. The rubrics cube still much harder by yourself above but the trick is known and you don’t need to do it yourself. You can watch the videos online which means anyone can memorize the solution. Even Homer when he became average in intelligence.
The whole issue between me and rr was that I did not appreciate how melo kept misrepresenting my views.
I can accept that rr thinks what he says is true but that doesn’t mean melo had to be a dick and troll me.
I mean I said basic facts rr would not accept as true. So why bother following up with counterarguments when he would not accept that axioms I needed that would defeat his.
Basic God damn facts.
Basic axioms of reality.
Because he wanted to avoid being wrong.
This had nothing to do with not understanding his views melo.
It had everything to do with not accepting basic facts.
When you argue with a person you must agree on the terms first or all you get is fighting like lawyers.
What the fuck was I supposed to do.
His verbal intelligence is so high the only way he could defeat me was to make me look bad by saying I used the wrong words.
100% it was not about his arguments but the facts he avoided.
What the fuck melo
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I hope you will notice I never said anything bad about rr family. Melo thinks I am a bad person but the reality is that Reddit has had a detrimental affect on the way melo thinks. Stop learning how to troll people, it’s bad for you. You said you were a network engineer. If that’s a smart job then be a smart person. You cannot smack people down with small words and understand anything about them. I have views, you cannot understand that way.
/rant
I am not as mad as I was before.
I believe I improved at least in having been able to form my words better.
Which means having emotional control.
I happen to think rr is more intelligent than me because of his memory.
Which makes is hard to fightback.
I still have problems remembering long phone numbers and doing things fast.
I got rid of my headaches and can sleep better but I am not able to think good. I take long times to make decisions as I can’t – the ADD stops me.
Executive function for me I guess that it is poor somehow. So I stay home.
If I had money I would buy the books rr suggested. And eat better food.
Currently I might have to sell my house for a cheaper one but then I could make money helping my sister with certain things.
I mean, I think this encompasses everything we discussed (there were like 2 other ones, but this is the main one).
https://pumpkinperson.com/2023/10/15/estimating-genetic-iqs-of-10-populations/comment-page-2/#comment-239269
My computer broke, I am on my cell phone so that link doesn’t work because of how WordPress works.
I will make some points though.
1. Wether intelligence is physical or non physical is unfalsifiable therefore a matter of religious belief.
2. Saying your belief is superior makes you a bigot.
3. Calling anyone’s religious beliefs racist is by default is discrimination.
4. You can try and call peoples beliefs racist but then you have define them as racist.
5. Defining a belief as racist doesn’t make it automatically racist.
6. You will have bigger problems in the future converting people to your religion in the future than internet debates because of cheep technology in the consumer markets becoming available to scan brains.
It’s not an empirical matter so falsification is irrelevant.
The rest of your comment is nonsense.
No falsification = not scientific = religious
Look I am fine you have your religious beliefs but please don’t call people racist when it’s not true.
There’s logical/conceptual proof too, and what is conceptual isn’t empirical, so falsification is irrelevant. Do you deny that there is conceptual proof?
“Racism” has context-dependent definitions.
Guest Post
Marxism against the IQ Construct
By Jeremy Wilson
Consider this:
My first interaction with rr was me asking him.
Why do beards grow into different shapes?
His response was that beards shapes were just so stories, beards don’t exist.
A non response to a legitimate question.
I wanted to know why my beard had its shape.
Mate selection was not the question.
Later on it infuriated me that he said I was racist i.e. (hereditarian) because I believe intelligence is physical.
Wtf mate
The only way to get away with it is word games. This postmodern relativism:
“Your wrong because truth don’t exist”
What I learned about Marxist is that as long as you use the right words it doesn’t matter what’s is true but only that you get the results your after. Meaning you can eliminate ideas you don’t like just by lying about them to the right audience.
The problem with lies is that they crumble when examined. Because those who try to make them work are crushed by reality. Lies don’t work.
They only way to make false ideas stick around is to brainwash people into those lies by using a totalitarian system. To hide alternative views. To not let people examine.
Indoctrination into Marxism then begin with saying you must not think wrong think. That it’s moral to subjugate people against bad ideas, by any means necessary.
This is why Marxism has done so well in academia. Because indoctrination must be taught by authority to gain followers. People must believe it before it can become real. No followers means no radical change. Therefore ideas considered bad must be suppressed.
Inquire, Free Speech and access to information is the fear of all Marxists then.
So when it comes to subjects here.
How do you get people to disbelieve intelligence can be studied.
You cannot bad books.
So attack the science.
But how?
By trying to prove intelligence is non physical.
By defining intelligence as non physical.
Because the evidence cannot be destroyed.
They have the brain scanners and the results of what happens in the brain.
The only option left is in the definitions.
Change the words, win the war against “racist IQ tests”.
I believe that this is futile.
No amount of word smithing with fully penetrate society to that extent.
Certain people may fall for it but then some people believe in the lizard people.
This is fring and will stay fring.
In the future as portable EEG toys go to market. You will not change peoples mind that these devices don’t show anything. It’s unlikely schools will ban them. The cellphone of the brain will be a big event in society.
“His response was that beards shapes were just so stories, beards don’t exist.”
First part is half-true (evolutionary EXPLANATIONS are just-so stories), second is nonsense. Quote me. Do you have that first interaction we had on hand so I can see it?
Those devices show neural patterns/firing/etc, not that intelligence (psychological traits) is physical.
Pumpkin,
Anything that does not qualify as a guest post please post as is in the comments.
The one about how Oprah is smart and the one where I say believing intelligence is physical is not racist.
It’s so sad to hear about President Carter’s passing. He really seemed like one of the few genuinely good people in politics. I appreciate the AI song link – a unique tribute! He definitely left a lasting impact. Thinking about his dedication to human rights today.