Another day, another legend lost. The great Phil Donahue who towered as the #1 talk show in America from the late 1960s to the mid 1980s has passed away at the age of 88. In today’s fragmented media age, where no one star can shine too brightly, it’s easy to forget just how big a star Phil Donahue really was.
Long before social media, streaming, and hundreds of cable channels, everyone in America just watched broadcast television, and pretty much the same few channels at that, so at his peak, probably about one in 20 American adults were watching Donahue on any given weekday, giving hosts like Donahue and his successor Oprah, a level of influence on society that was comparable to that of a United States President.
This was the true golden age of America.
Today everyone and their mother has some kind of kind of talk show in the form of YouTube, podcasts, or just tic-toc videos, so it’s easy to forget what it was like when only the absolute best and brightest held the microphone.
Pumpkin Person 
Like many Irish americans, Phil’s career was destroyed by wokeness. They searched up and down the country for a black woman to replace him. Chris Matthews was also destroyed by woke. Same with Mel Gibson of course.
Unlike Phil, Oprah was never a journalist or even pretended to be. Talkshows used to be intellectual shows. Oprah brought it straight into the gutter (ghetto) with Jerry springer type bullshit. Talkshows used to be about informing people. Oprah made it to be about misinforming or even trolling people eg The Secret, her endorsement of Teh Nasi Coates (retard), etc.
When they broke Phil, talkshows ended as a form of journalism. The only other person that tried to continue it as journalism was Charlie Rose before he was also cancelled.
Like many Irish americans, Phil’s career was destroyed by wokeness.
False. Donahue invented wokeness. He put a gay man on TV in 1967 and was a huge supporter of liberal causes
They searched up and down the country for a black woman to replace him.
False. Oprah was given an opportunity to challenge Donahue after dozens of white people tried and failed, and no one in their wildest dreams thought she’d beat him in Chicago, let alone go national. They just needed someone who could keep a low rated low budget local show from getting cancelled and Oprah had a proven track record.
And Oprah didn’t so much replace him as she did surpass him. In fact Donahue’s audience actually increased thanks to all the publicity his rivalry with Oprah got and they eventually reached an amicable truce with Oprah dominating the afternoon and Donahue dominating the morning.
It was only a decade later, after Oprah made the Forbes 400 that the industry became flooded with sleazy Oprah clones like Jerry Springer & Geraldo & Ricki Lake, all wanting a piece of Oprah’s money. It was these greedy opportunists who dragged Donahue into the gutter and ultimately off the air.
Oprah responded by condemning the trash talkers and distanced herself by starting a book club where she got millions of couch potatoes to read Toni Morrison & Cormac McCarthy
Chris Matthews was also destroyed by woke. Same with Mel Gibson of course.
No Gibson was destroyed for being woke against the wrong elites. Had his drunken anti-war tirade been directed against WASPS like Bush & Cheney, he’d have been celebrated by liberals.
Unlike Phil, Oprah was never a journalist or even pretended to be. Talkshows used to be intellectual shows. Oprah brought it straight into the gutter (ghetto) with Jerry springer type bullshit.
She was never as sleazy as Springer and by confessing her sexual abuse at a time when no one discussed such matters, she led millions to recovery. Her show was also the loudest voice against the Iraq war in the final months leading up to it so she was actually more of a journalist than the actual journalists in media. Donahue was also hugely anti-war during his gig on MSNBC, but he was by then no longer a part of the mainstream media
Its not false. Theres obviously a conspiracy to remove Irish people from american tv. If you want to get an excel sheet youll see it. List all the non-scripted top prime time tv roles where people can say whatever they want. When I was younger at least 40% or more of these roles were held by Irish. Fast forward to today maybe 5% of the the roles are held by them.
What happened?
They replaced them with blacks and jews. Blacks because they follow orders to the letter and jews because, you know, hahaha.
The jews analyse this stuff even more than me. They probably have a whiteboard with a list of all these roles on tv to make sure that everything is under control. They’re terrified someone will trash the Gaza situation, or make fun of blacks or the lebensraum wars or whatever and most of the time, its going to be irish or irish adjacent people like scottish people that have the backbone to tell the truth.
It was literally wall to wall Irish people at one point – Phil Donahoe, Chris Matthews, Conan O Brien, Bill O Reilly, Rosie O donnell, Megyn Kelly, Sean Hannity and some scots like Jay leno and Craig Ferguson. The jews thought – this needs to change. Wall to wall black lesbians is now the ‘official’ directive.
In a ‘free market’ (no such thing) – nobody wants to listen to black lesbians. Even jewish hosts like Levin and Myers and these others are not comparable to Irish ones.
Only Irish guy on prime time non scripted tv role is Colbert now and he basically is a bot for the jews.
Its not false. Theres obviously a conspiracy to remove Irish people from american tv.
There was no conspiracy to remove Donahue. His show lasted 29 years, longer than virtually any major talk show in history. But once Oprah proved how much money and publicity a talk show could get, the free market demanded talk shows that were younger, edgier and frankly dumber than Donahue’s.
If you want to get an excel sheet youll see it. List all the non-scripted top prime time tv roles where people can say whatever they want. When I was younger at least 40% or more of these roles were held by Irish. Fast forward to today maybe 5% of the the roles are held by them.
That was because when you were young, TV talk shows were the most powerful medium on the planet so only the best and brightest had talk shows: Oprah followed by the Irish and a bunch of Jews. But today virtually no one watches TV talk shows except older African Americans, so in the wake of George Floyd, TV executives just use those shows to advertise how woke they are because they can no longer attract top talent.
They replaced them with blacks and jews. Blacks because they follow orders to the letter and jews because, you know, hahaha.
Actually blacks and Arabs are the ONLY U.S. races that refuse to obey Jews. Kanye West, Candace Owens, the President of Harvard, Mark Lamonte Hill, Dr. Cornell West; the list of anti-zionist blacks goes on and on. Meanwhile whites absolutely worship Jews and do everything Israel tells them to, to the point where even Jews have to tell Trump to stop worshiping them so much (so embarrassing):
The jews analyse this stuff even more than me. They probably have a whiteboard with a list of all these roles on tv to make sure that everything is under control.
No, but the Israel lobby does monitor the media to see if anyone criticizes Israel and if they do, they and their advertisers are the targets of aggressive boycotts.
It was literally wall to wall Irish people at one point – Phil Donahoe, Chris Matthews, Conan O Brien, Bill O Reilly, Rosie O donnell, Megyn Kelly, Sean Hannity and some scots like Jay leno and Craig Ferguson.
And virtually none of those people ever criticized Israel and some like Sean Hannity and Megyn Kelly are HUGE supporters of Israel. Even after getting kicked off mainstream TV, Kelley and O’reilly are more pro-Israel than ever.
Wall to wall black lesbians is now the ‘official’ directive.
I don’t care if it’s wall to wall trans-Native Americans. No one watches TV talk shows anymore. After Oprah retired, the free market abandoned the entire medium and now internet podcasts like Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan are the only broadcasters to approach even a small fraction of the clout Oprah had at her prime.
WTF are you talking about? Donahue was removed the second he questioned the Iraq War. He is probably living in a homeless shelter right now.
Every single one of the people I mentioned has been purged from tv.
Its not whether they criticise Mother Israel or not. Its the fact that someday, they could, because theyre not scripted tv positions like news anchors or some of these other bots. That the way jews think. They’re very intelligent like that.
Every single black tv host or presenter is a jew puppet. Don Lemon, Whoopi, Trevor Noah, etc 20 Famous Black Talk Show Hosts [PHOTOS] (newsone.com) Every single person on this list would literally invade Gaza if the jew producers ordered it.
As much as I disagree with Hannity and O reilly, they weren’t supine. They weren’t kissing the floorboards the jews walked on. If you notice Hannity backed trump pretty hard when the Russia Russia bullshit was happening. O Reilly seems to back trump as well. Even when Murdoch directed everyone to bash trump.
I think tv is still important and if Tucker Carlson was still on Fox, the neocons would be sweating buckets.
WTF are you talking about? Donahue was removed the second he questioned the Iraq War.
You’re conflating two different shows. Donahue is most famous for his syndicated DAYTIME talk show which ran on BROADCAST TV from 1970 to 1996. That show he lost because he overstayed his welcome in the free market.
However he then hosted a PRIME TIME CABLE show on MSNBC from 2002 to 2003. It was the latter show he lost for opposing the Iraq War.
He is probably living in a homeless shelter right now.
Actually he just died which is why we’re talking about him
Every single one of the people I mentioned has been purged from tv.
But not BECAUSE they are Irish, though I agree Irish hosts are more likely to take on controversial issues.
Its not whether they criticise Mother Israel or not. Its the fact that someday, they could, because theyre not scripted tv positions like news anchors or some of these other bots. That the way jews think. They’re very intelligent like that.
Jews had no problem with Donahue’s daytime show in fact they largely preferred him to Oprah in her early years when she was platforming skin heads and Jewish Satanists. It was only his primetime cable show in which powerful elites (possibly Jewish ones) had him cancelled immediately, despite healthy ratings. So elites are not picking on the Irish, but the Irish are more likely to pick fights with the elites.
Every single black tv host or presenter is a jew puppet.
Let’s say establishment puppet instead of “Jew puppet” since not all elites are Jewish, and not all Jews support the elites, and let’s define it as anyone who has NOT loudly opposed a U.S. supported war:
The only non-puppet super famous hosts would be:
Oprah (Irag & Afghanistan)
Donahue (Iraq)
Rosie O’Donnel (Iraq)
Candace Owens (Ukraine & Gaza)
So that’s 2 blacks and 2 Irish Americans, but seeing as there are way more Irish American hosts in general, yet none of them have opposed more than one war, I’d say black hosts might have even more agency than Irish ones do, though I kind of moved the goal posts by including a YouTube star like Owens
As much as I disagree with Hannity and O reilly, they weren’t supine.
Good vocab!
They weren’t kissing the floorboards the jews walked on. If you notice Hannity backed trump pretty hard when the Russia Russia bullshit was happening. O Reilly seems to back trump as well. Even when Murdoch directed everyone to bash trump.
I agree about O’reilly.
Although O’reilly was supposedly fired for sexually harassing tons of women, I actually think his real mistake was offending Jews. I remember seeing him interview a Jewish lawyer who was defending a bunch of immigrants who were taking legal action against Christmas and O’reilly said “are you behind this Mr GoldSTEIN?” really emphasizing the Stein. Not long after that he not only platformed David Duke, but didn’t push back on his talking points.
Yeah I remember that O reilly video with the Stein thing from years back. You have to assume the jews use the NSA to listen to everyones phone calls and read their computers. They would have known O Reilly was a secret anti-semite maybe for years. O Reilly can back Iraq, Syria, Libya, Lebanon etc etc. But if the jews know you secretly resent their control, they will press the eject button if they can replace you with a bot.
I would guess every Irish host in the media knows about the jew question as it pertains to the media. They might not be intelligent enough to figure out how profund it is in world history, economics or politics or finance though.
They look around and must realise every producer, editor, director or studio head is an ashkenazim.
Some of them try to navigate it tacitly and some of them lose the plot and rage about it like Mel Gibson.
Phil Donahoue…he knew. So does Chris Matthews….So does Rosie. They all know and they can’t say it.
Jews didn’t have as much TV power in Donahue’s day and knowing his open minded personality, I doubt he resented them.
Knowing Donahue he would have said something like “you know, us WASPs have had a strangle hold on power for centuries, so what’s so wrong with Jews having some power for a change?”
Chris was deplatformed for criticizing Hilary and calling Iraq a mistake. Chris never liked Hilary.
He loves Bill, but he must know about the gossip about hilary being a psychopath.
Puppy what is the difference between journalism and entertainment?
Philo, I give it a try:
In journalism, a jew tells a deceiving fiction pretending it to be the enlightening truth ; whereas in entertainment, he pretends to tell an entertaining fiction while presenting an inexplicit truth. in both cases, the appealing story is in fact scary and the frighting one isn’t.
Bruno, what do you do for a living?
I always enjoy reading Bruno’s comments, I can identify with him. He’s always got some interesting observation, and doesn’t attach it to a violent Philosopher-induced persecution complex like LOADED did.
Actually I don’t want to bully LOADED, that was just what came to mind because LOADED did have some interesting things to say in a similar way, though nearly not as much life experience as Bruno.
Jewish Politician Against Zionism Runs Against Infamous Democrat (youtube.com)
Cenk interviews a high IQ jewish woman. Interesting points she makes.
No one cares
Unban the comment comparing Phil and Oprah and debate properly.
I’ll unban it when I have time to respond.
So just in case you don’t know scottish people are closer culturally and genetically to irish even though scots live on the same island as the anglo-saxons.
You look at every single measure – political opinions, life expectancy, incidence of schiz, alcoholism, drug abuse, violence, size of family pre contraception, etc We’re basically the same country.
Actually in the movie Braveheart St. Mel Gibson shows the link strong like between Ireland and Scotland. Its a recurring theme of that movie.
I want to take an ancestry test to see if I’m part Irish. I know some of my ancestors lived on the west coast of Britain. I’m definitely part English and German, and Native American. I don’t think anywhere else in Europe, like France or Spain or Scandinavia, but I don’t know.
Everyone knows Michelle Obama ‘Michael’ is probably a man. I’ve never seen a woman with shoulders like that. Not even black women. Michael could probably bench press Barack Obama.
Joan Rivers said the truth and she died ‘by accident’ in plastic surgery 2 weeks later. Wtf is that about. Nobody ever died having plastic surgery lol.
The jews have been trolling the goyim for decades. They replaced neocon puppet bush with a gay african and his transgender bride. They’re very intelligent like that.
The jews have been trolling the goyim for decades. They replaced neocon puppet bush with a gay african and his transgender bride. They’re very intelligent like that.
No the Jews did not do that. Oprah did that. The Jews wanted the hawkish Hillary to be president, not the Muslimm adjacent Obama. Oprah used her superior brain size to figure out how to get Obama the Democrat nomination, and only then did the Jews jump on the bandwagon because the high IQs one prefer an educated Muslim adjacent atheist to an evangelical like Sarah Palin.
Well actually I agree Obama was worse for jews than McCain and Hilary. No doubt about that one.
[redacted by pp Aug 21/2024]The republican nominee will be Nikki Haley.
As I predicted, Biden dropped out and he was hoping to endorse Nikki Haley but the dem operatives wanted to go back to Magic Negro.
Anyways, it will be Harris vs Haley and you will literally see Nikki Haley raise $15b in 1 day and every single tv show say how the country needs ‘unity’ and someone to ‘protect’ isr…I mean america from evil Iran and Russia.
You might even see Hilary Clinton, Schumer and Pelosi endorsing Nikki Haley over the official democrat candidate.
Observe Pumpkin. This is your brain on jews.
Originally he predicted that Trump would be “knocked out” and that Haley would be the new candidate, Biden would step down after that and endorse Haley.
But that obviously didn’t happen, so now he has to invent a narrative that explains why he was wrong.
I was less than 1 inch away from being right. I can predict events. You can’t because low IQ and CNN mind control.
One tv host that has a pretty strange position in media is Bill Maher who is half irish half jewish. Bill is obviously not a practicing jew and AFAIK had a catholic upbringing (which he hated) but hes pretty hardcore pro Israel.
On the other hand he bashes woke a lot and they allow him to criticise the lebensraum wars. Hes also allowed invite people like Marianne Williamson or Stiglitz or other ‘self hating jews’ on the show which the neocons absolutely forbid in other media.
I’m surprised Maher has never asked George Soros to ever be on his show because Soros would do it and Maher has the connections to reach him.
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I havent watched this yet, but it could be interesting to everyone here.
Hey Philosemitic, what do you think of Nick Fuentes? He wants to ban all non-jews from holding public office.
I imagine you hate that because then your retainers would be out a job and you’d lose a large portion of your income.
Nick Fuentes is very smart and funny – I mean, extraordinarily funny – but he’s a narcissistic borderline sociopath. I think many political streamers are.
Why would nick want to be all non jews? You mean jews.
Oh yeah, my bad. I meant that he wants to ban all non-christians.
So Jews, Muslims, atheists, and whatever else couldn’t hold office.
You’d be out of a job.
I seriously doubt Nick is a christian.
I think Nice Fuentes is good where he’s at. He doesn’t seem to be a fed either (though I’m sure heavily monitored).
Racist conspiracies are stupid.
Oprah is a babyboomer.
no one watches tv anymore.
Michelle had kids.
Trump will be elected because of people like pumpkin at the DNC
Why did the dem donors pick Kamala anyway? I don’t get that. There were a number of jews in the running if it went to an open convention. Gavin Newsom was a cookie cutter candidate.
Maybe the donors didn’t want riots again like 68?
Biden didn’t even want to endorse her. Obv Kamala is…not right in the head enough to engineer her own crowning. Pelosi knew the inside info she was a nutcase as well. Someone big put their thumb on the scale for yet another magic negro except this one can’t talk in public without a script like Obama.
IMO if the dems picked a white man or woman the dem candidate would be winning by at least 5 points.
Why did the dem donors pick Kamala anyway?
Because Biden picked her to get revenge on Obama for pushing him out.
But he didnt pick her. His statement didnt endorse her. His endorsement came 40 minutes later on twitter. Obv the people that run his twitter got told to endorse her on his behalf.
Someone gave the order from very high up.
Biden literally kept threatening party officials with a Kamala candidacy if they didnt fall behind him.
I know for a fact Pelosi knows Harris is not right in the head.
Someone gave the order from very high up.
There is no higher up than the White House. Biden gave the order.
Biden literally kept threatening party officials with a Kamala candidacy if they didnt fall behind him.
Exactly. And he made good on his threat when they didn’t fall behind him.
See this is an easy question to answer when you don’t have jewrot affecting your brain.
I don’t even understand how you two miss the mark by this much.
The reason Kamala was chosen is simple. She’s the only one who could run. Not only would she be the only other person legally entitled to the 100 mil sitting in Biden’s war chest, she’s easily the most qualified because she’s the VICE PRESEIDENT. Moreover, if she had been snubbed for a white person you would have a large chunk of the progressive base shrieking racism.
You’re vastly underestimating how excited people are to vote for someone that isn’t 80 years old. You both just witnessed 5D chess on Biden’s part. He waited until Trump picked his VP and then stepped down completely changing the race. Trump was so sure that he would be facing off with Biden and had molded his campaign around that, now he’s barely scraping by.
The reason Kamala was chosen is simple. She’s the only one who could run. Not only would she be the only other person legally entitled to the 100 mil sitting in Biden’s war chest,
That’s not an insurmountable amount of money. Harris just raised half a billion in a month
Moreover, if she had been snubbed for a white person you would have a large chunk of the progressive base shrieking racism.
No because the Obamas would have strongly supported that white person.
“That’s not an insurmountable amount of money. Harris just raised half a billion in a month”
It doesn’t have to be an insurmountable amount of money. That is factually a lot of money, though, and it was basically free.
“No because the Obamas would have strongly supported that white person.”
The Obamas are not the royal family of black people you jackass.
Assuming the Obamas supported Gavin Newsom, or whoever, (and you don’t know that they would have), that does not mean people non-whites would have just fallen inline.
This is what happens when HBD infects your brain. Ethnocentrism can explain some variance in behavior, but it is not the end all be all and you keep with these mental gymnastics to simply avoid the obvious.
What does ethnocentrism have to do with it? Obama is BLACK and he did not want the BLACK Kamila. That’s the opposite of ethnocentrism.
Why are you trying to act like you don’t invoke ethnocentrism to explain away half of politics?
Where did Obama say he didn’t want Kamala?
I do invoke ethnocentrism, but not in this Kamala discussion.
As for Obama not wanting Kamala:
You do realize that Obama just endorsed Kamala Harris, correct?
But that’s irrelevant anyway. My original point was that Obama endorsing a White candidate doesn’t mean non-whites and white progressives wouldn’t have been outraged at Kamala getting snubbed.
If that had happened it would be the same as admitting she’s a DEI hire.
BREAKING NEWS: Oprah is crashing the convention tonight
You do realize that Obama just endorsed Kamala Harris, correct?
You do realize he has no choice if he wants to stay relevant, correct?
“BREAKING NEWS: Oprah is crashing the convention tonight”
I bet you just wet yourself.
This should be interesting. I guess that proves that for Oprah, Black>Woman.
Iirc she didn’t endorse Hillary.
“You do realize he has no choice if he wants to stay relevant, correct?”
He’s Obama. He doesn’t have to do anything he doesn’t want to.
Oprah endorsed Hillary too, though not that loudly.
I feel like they’re using Oprah to get us to watch a bunch of boring senators while we wait
Amanda Gorman is so black and so beautiful. But she’s using her hands way too much. Looks like she ‘s translating her speech into sign language for the deaf.
If they’re bringing out Oprah, they’re really gunning for Trump. They do NOT want him to be president again.
I’m honestly so proud.
Kamala stole Oprah’s on-stage personality. She’s so quirky and affable!
This Amanda Gorman woman is more attractive than 98% of black women but the average White woman who kept up with her appearance would be as/more attractive and would have beautiful driven snow skin.
She doesn’t remind of Oprah at all, but I agree she’s very affable
Yes I find women with very white skin to be extremely beautiful, but we’ve been told for thousands of years how ugly and inferior black is, so when you see a stunningly beautiful woman who is extremely black, it’s quite striking.
You’re right, Kamala doesn’t really seem like Oprah in general. Maybe just certain aspects. Probably, you can tell when Oprah is being genuine, and because she has a more integrity than most (modern) politicians (at least, for being a talk show host), you get a general feeling of deep thought that rises above the midwit grifter level than you do for Kamala. But I do feel that there is a specific sense that Kamala is biting Oprah, and Oprah endorsing Kamala is like the master endorsing their apprentice. It’s something about her being an upper class African while trying to utilize that racial aspect while also trying to appeal to voters who watch the Office or Community (or whatever estrogen laced comedy shows that are more recent).
My prediction is that once the public sees Kamala talking ad hoc and with people in public you will start seeing the memes and the tik tok videos and the jews will start saying its racist to make fun of Kamala’s….unorganised thoughts…..
And just like all your other predictions it’ll be wrong.
What your retarded ass doesn’t understand is that people have already seen Kamala Talking off the cuff, and they LIKE IT. They tried to mock her about coconuts but the meme got turned around on them and now people are getting coconut bumper stickers.
Seeing someone who’s ditzy and joyful is a fresh of breath air to the hate field speech of trump and doomerism espoused by Biden.
This is the ultimate take down of Kamala.
(195) The Kamala Harris Veep Reboot | The Daily Show – YouTube
This was done by the jews at the Daily Show btw, not republicans.
Eventually Kamala will have to talk without a script and its going to tank her poll numbers. Even the blacks will hesitate to vote for this.
The funniest comment on that video is the guy who said Kamala actually sounds even dumber than the satire character.
Real Life Incident:
KH: Weve been to the border. We’ve been there many times.
Reporter: But you never went to the border.
KH: I haven’t been to Europe either!
Puppy thats called schiz. Thats not low IQ. Thats a person who…basically…Loaded and Kamala have the same biochemistry going on.
I’d guess Kamala has a higher IQ than Palin and Dan Quayle (but not by much).
But sadly Kamala can’t live independently like Palin and Quayle.
I bet her husband is pretend married to her for political reasons. A hollywood lawyer has plenty of options for dating. 100% that marriage is what they call a ‘show marriage’. Kamala must have some sort of nurse or assistant in the house to keep her in check. Make sure she doesn’t set everything on fire.
If Melo truly thinks an insane person who can’t even talk or think is better than Trump…the situation is dire in America.
Trump is actually insane, though.
Kamala is neurotypical.
You just don’t understand the symptoms of mental disorders because you’re uneducated and dumb.
But Trump isn’t insane….
Kamala, objectively, is insane. We can do a poll of puppys readers. Show the readers the Kamala video above done by the jews.
This is an interesting debate. After watching it I think Flat earth makes a lot of sense. Clearly, The Jews would benefit from making people believe the earth is round because black people or something.
Damn, now he’s a flat earther?
Sad.
I hate Dave. He is arrogant, was very rude to that Christian professor and gave a really stupid answer to a philosophical question. Would blow him, though. Maybe.
LMAO
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Lurker, I’m nothing if not reliable!
Professor Dave is an example of a guy who loves dominating people outside of academia and low-hanging fruit but would be passed around prison more than Timothy Chalamet
Hey pp. Your girl was at the DNC. I wonder who wrote(or co-wrote) her speech. She looked good.
Btw I hate Harris and that Walz guy.
Does anyone else think Melo is one of the lowest IQ commenters? He said above Kamala got picked because she was the ‘most qualified’. Qualified for what? Sucking Willie Brown’s schnozel?
Kamala has zero achievements or even a history.
She was chosen in some very weird backroom politics that I can’t understand at this point in time. Obviously if Puppy didn’t ban Jimmy, we would have another high IQ person who could analyse it. Sadly all we have is a BLM carpenter and puppy.
Anyways, the jews could have picked neocons or even run hilary again, but chose someone who basically can’t form a coherent thought and was a basket case in the White House that everyone whispered about.
Right now the entire media is behind Kamala as long as she sticks to the scripted speeches. Its been 1 month and she hasn’t answered a question. Eventually the jews can’t protect her, especially from a top 1% social IQ person like trump.
If Trump thinks they’re hiding her, he will bash her for being a puppet or fake.
If Trump wants to win he has to come to the darkness. He has to reach into the primordial thoughts of people about blacks. He has to talk about the ‘media and financial elites who want harris’.
He should announce a ban on DEI hiring in politics.
You wouldn’t be so confused if you weren’t so brainwashed by fake news. Most of what you said is just completely false.
What news channels do you watch Philosemitic?
So apparently Michael Obama gave a great speech.
Puppy thinks cavemen had higher IQs than modern humans. Let that sink in.
If a person believes that, what else will he believe?
So you think all races of cavemen were dumber than all modern races, even the Caucasoid ones who survived the very ice age in Northern Eurasia that selected for high white IQ in the first place?
You don’t believe evolution applies to humans so we can’t debate this issue.
Pill you are dumb to talk to and if you keep saying moronic shit, I will ban you.
The ‘moronic shit’ is saying cavemen never evolved.
The proto-caucasoids of Western Eurasia probably had an IQ around 90 and have since evolved into modern whites with an average IQ around 100.
Look you don’t believe in Darwin’s theory of natural selection like RR. You think its racist or something so theres not much point arguing about science.
Of course I believe in natural selection and in HBD.
Don’t you get tired of attacking strawmen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Learn to steelman your opponent’s arguments and people might actually want to engage with you, but I don’t know if you have the Theory of Mind skills to do this:
Put simply, the Steel Man Technique is to build the best form of the other side’s argument and then engage with it. It is a contrast to the fallacious ‘straw man’ technique, where one side creates only a caricature of the other side’s argument and engages with that.
People want to have their thoughts taken seriously and not brushed aside. The best way to do this is to show that you understand the thrust of their arguments by improving on the way the core idea is expressed. Anything less and you’ll merely be attacking a weak manifestation of an idea, and not the idea itself.
We can argue about politics or celeb gossip, but I think with science theres certain axioms and you and RR are not in that space.
Ok, Im sick and tired of saying this. I will literally copy and paste your own comments from now on.
You said all evolutionary changes ended when we became cavemen and you agree with Stephen Gould evolution more or less ended when we became anatomically erect. You said it at least 4 seperate times over the past year.
LOL! We became anatomically erect 3 million years ago when we were still apes; Gould and I said evolution more or less ended 40,000 years ago, but the key term is “more or less”. I don’t think we were 100% modern 40,000 years ago, however unlike Gould, I say the IQ gaps between the major continental races were already largely in place while we were still cavemen
Actually thats a steelman argument. You actually said something EVEN worse than the above. You said we DEVOLVED from cavemen and our IQs only started recovering recently from eating grains.
I said we suffered malnutrition that shrunk our brain which is different from devolved
You said we were weaker, dumber and less able to survive in the wilderness.
Thats devolution across the board.
Because of malnutrition not because backwards evolution; the latter implies a genetic cause.
Ok to summarise youre not insane and think we devolved from cavemen but youre stupid and think nothing happened in 40k years.
Thatttth mattth senttth!!
That’s how evolution works. Rapid change followed by long periods of stasis followed by rapid change etc. Societies work like that too.
Ok you finally admit you don’t believe in darwinian evolution like I said 3 hours ago. You believe in punctuated crap that Gould invented to explain why blacks are as smart as whites. Great. Everyone here believes thats scientifically valid. Really intelligent.
No I believe in both, there’s no contradiction. From wiki:
“In the fourth edition (1866) of On the Origin of Species Darwin wrote that “the periods during which species have undergone modification, though long as measured in years, have probably been short in comparison with the periods during which they retain the same form.”[87] Thus punctuationism in general is consistent with Darwin’s conception of evolution.”
Ok Puppy, heres philosophy/epistemology philosophy:
If someone invents an intricate theory that sounds plausible for the sole purpose of propping up a demented and ideological belief, the theory should be discarded in favour of the simpler explanation.
Gould never used his punctuated theory to deny HBD (even though he did deny HBD).
In fact you could argue that dividing into races is itself a punctuation event.
Ok not to be pedantic but darwin was talking about phenotype in that statement. Darwin absolutely believed there were changes, however minor, generation to generation.
Darwinism is sometimes called GRADUALISM.
On that basis there is a complete contradiction with Gould.
Being less pedantic. I think you could see gigantic chanhges in a few generations if an asteroid hit the planet or eugenics or some sort of alien invasion, but 90% of evolution is GRADUALISM.
Why do you debate him about this topic when he’s obviously uneducated?
Because I don’t want his ignorance to go unchallenged, otherwise people will believe it
“Look you don’t believe in Darwin’s theory of natural selection like RR. You think its racist or something”
That’s not relevant to the argument.
“You said all evolutionary changes ended when we became cavemen and you agree with Stephen Gould evolution more or less ended when we became anatomically erect. You said it at least 4 seperate times over the past year.”
Don’t you get on people with autism and their being so literal with things? Do you think Gould meant that literally? PP’s comment “Gould and I said evolution more or less ended 40,000 years ago, but the key term is “more or less”” is right on the mark. And if you would actually read Gould (eg Full House) then you’d see what he meant with that claim.
“You believe in punctuated crap that Gould invented to explain why blacks are as smart as whites.”
Haha what is this guy on about? Go ahead and show me where you got this from.
And PP yea I see where you’re coming from with that 4th edition Origin quote, but PE was formulated as a direct opponent of phyletic gradualism. Darwin’s ToNS was about gradualism, too.
TP doesn’t know anything about evolution.
99% of mainstream biologists believe on Darwinism.
1% believe in jewish punctuated crap.
Thank you for your nonsense comment.
punctuated is just an elaboration/modification of Darwinism. Most mainstream biologists accept it
TP is wrong again. The extended evolutionary synthesis (EES) has better predictive and explanatory power than the modern synthesis (MS).
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2015.1019
And PP, PE is directly at odds with gradualism.
But not directly at odds with Darwinism
But I’d say that if gradualism is wrong (and it is), then (neo-)Darwinism is false (for that and many more reasons).
Even if Darwin did not predict punctuated equilibrium, it does not follow that his whole theory is wrong. All theories undergo revisions. Also there are cases where evolution is gradual and other cases where it is punctuated.
“it does not follow that his whole theory is wrong” – the issue is—as can be seen in the reference above—there is a better framework for understanding evolution that makes successful novel predictions and has explanatory power.
Better than what?
If Darwinian gradualism is true, then we should not observe sudden appearances of complex body plans in the fossil record. But we do observe sudden appearances of complex body plans in the fossil record (eg the Cambrian explosion). Thus, Darwinian gradualism is false.
I agree gradualism does not always occur but it might still occur a lot, so calling it false might be an overstatement.
Everytime I think RR can’t say something dumber, he goes ahead and says somthing even worse.
The fossile record is not a complete record. By definition it shows punctuated crap because there aren’t fossils to show generation to generation changes. Most of the time its a fossil every 1m years or so. Gould knew this and wanted to use it pretend evolution happens every million years. So ridiculous.
To ‘prove’ gradualism you need a fossil every generation which can’t happen however human beings evolved to have COMMON SENSE and so you assume gradualism and not the dumbass punctuated stuff just because of the incidence of found fossils.
The reason why jews hate hate hate people talking about evolution applying to humans is that people would naturally ask who evolved to be smartest.
Why do you worship Jews so much? It’s embarrassing seeing you get down on your knees and constantly kiss their ass everyday. The greatest achievements in history are all by white people not Jews and East Asians are arguably almost more intelligent than Ashkenazi Jews.
They clearly evolved to be more intelligent than other races and especially east asians (east asians have no social intelligence).
If Jews are so socially intelligent why were they expelled from 100 countries? East Asians had the social intelligence to use tic toc to turn most young Americans against Israel.
Real Life Incident:
KH: Weve been to the border. We’ve been there many times.
Reporter: But you never went to the border.
KH: I haven’t been to Europe either!
Who even thinks like that? Maybe 1 in a million. Even my mother is more coherent than Kamala and my mother is frothing at the mouth crazy.
wow she said something dumb. No one is claiming she’s a rocket scientist. Trump said we should nuke a Hurricane.
She didn’t say something dumb. She said something rock solid insane.
Shes been to europe many many times.
Sarah Palin wouldn’t say that. But Loaded would.
Exactly, all the criticism thrown at Kamala is more applicable to Trump.
She’s socially conniving, so is Trump
She’s insane, so is Trump
She’s dumb, so is Trump
Of course, none of that is true about Kamala, but it’s all true about Trump, and gullible dipshits like Philo only care about that shit when talking about the democrat nominee.
I just endorsed Kamala 3 times and Puppy is banning me from endorsing her. Hahaha. I can’t actually believe it!
Unban my full endorsement of Kamala please and debate properly.
Then leave my name out of it
But you agree with Trump on deregulating everything and making the ‘free market’ (no such thing) decide everything.
Don’t be stupid of course I believe in regulations. I don’t want corporations dumping toxic waste into rivers. Even real libertarians like Ayn Rand don’t want that. Did you watch her appearance on Donahue I posted in the article? Please discuss.
Ayn Rand and you and Bruno are against 90% of regulations because its against the ‘free market’ (still no idea what the hell this term really means to you guys).
I’m not an ideologue. I’m a scientist. If you think there should be more regulations, okay show me the data and I’ll consider it.
I’m a financial regulator and the entire financial industry would implode and probably shrink 75% with no regulations.
I can’t speak about pharma, environment, toy, food or telecoms regs but i’d guess maybe 80% make sense. And the the remaining 20% is what lobbyists asked for.
Ok unban it and just strike out the line about you being a libertarian nutcase.
why don’t you just copy and paste it with that line omitted?
Has it ever occured to you that someone like Bruno couldn’t physicially exist 40000 years ago? What does that say about evolution puppy?
Well some scientists think we went through a domestication process since that advent of agriculture. It would not have made us any smarter overall, but more cooperative, allowing the advent of complex society and civilization.
They say not only did we domesticate wolves into dogs but we domesticated ourselves too.
Autism didn’t even exist 1000 years ago. In just 1000 years we evolved rain men and people who can calculate Pi to a 3000 digits.
Now imagine what happened in 40,000 years.
I endorse Kamabla Harris for president.
So heres the cold calculus everyone.
Kamala is insane and maybe dumb. Trump’s policies are terrible. Trump wants to give Adelson the West Bank and Gaza.
I would vote for the person who is Kamala’s boss and the person that bizarrely chose this crazy person to run over his fellow jews. I know who that person is and hes rational, high IQ, and was a former Treasury sec and Managing Partner of Goldman Sachs and Citi. And he was for the Iran Deal. And he believes we should have climate and financial regs (unlike some certain people).
Just common sense stuff.
So I would vote for ‘Kamala’ knowing 100% the real deal.
If Puppy and RR walked into a mainstream high school science class they both get kicked out for being trolls.
it’s strange that no one mentioned Iran. Phil Donahue return at MNSBC was put to an end because of his vocal opposition to 2003 Irak war. He killed it against O’Reilly at Fox,
and the Irak war was not the Oil lobby, but half AIPAC and Half the military industrial complex. So the J had a very important role in kicking him out. It’s even out in the open on Donahue wikipage.
it’s like trying to say today that Israel is an aprtheid state, wich means a racist state, that has killed 10% of Palestinian children and women in less than a year with mostly Americans bombs. When I was in southern Spain, I saw some navy boats that were heading towards Israel to give them bombs just this month.
That doesn’t run on TV and you won’t find much people on TV with that obvious message.
on both instances, you find the same interest. The same ethnic group.
Hey Bruno! How are u?
There are people saying it as it is about Israel/Zionism, just not huge names. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has been a pathetic missed opportunity.
And yes, some big names won’t get TV time, like Susan Sarandon.
(did u swim at the Seine? haha)
no it’s not completely clean yet. But I don’t understand why so many conservatives reject this project. There are so many global warning stupid investments, cleaning big rivers is a very good idea.
it was an extremely difficult enterprise because: first there were 23 000 properties, firms and municipalities throwing there waste water directly into the river. Second, the most difficult part was having every cities around the Seine not throw there rain water into it. You need enormous storage and treatment tanks to store all this rain water that has flown through the streets accumulating the worst dirt and then to clean it before safely releasing it. That part is almost done but not completely. If you have 3 or 4 days of big rain, it’s overwhelmed. But even then, the water after big rains is not worst than an average European or American beach. In normal time, it’s in the top 10%. That’s how well it’s going,
when it’s totally finished, there will be so much fun activities around the river , restaurants, pools, dancing, etc The city will build many lockers for regular folk to be able to enjoy swimming. It’s meant to be perfect for summer next year. Jacques Chirac started the project in 1995 so it has been a 30 years enterprise. Anne Hidalgo invested 1,4 billion euros in the last 4 years to give it a final push for the games. Normally it should have been finished around 2035 so we gained 10 years with that big Olympics billion.
Interesting facts! You are so concrete details-oriented. Like the opposite of me haha
A good, talented man. May he rest in peace.
wheres mugabe gone
He left a comment Wednesday or Thursday calling me a racist but I didn’t post it. Projection is sad.
I feel like Melo and his liberal democracy believing friends, like RR and the online debaters like Destiny, always dismiss conspiracy theories and HBD and ethnocentric arguments, as well as genuine cultural superiority arguments, because they believe everyone is somehow equal in their ability to influence the world, and if not equal, that reality tends to go in that direction (hence why they urge some form of socialism/communism to get where we’re going).
One problem is, of course, that everyone is not equal, nor should they be equal, nor do we even know what “equal” means for many things. Some cultures are better than others, some biological organisms are more intelligent, and this is predictable. Furthermore, technology is so advanced that many of our biological differences have been minimized… but others, like intelligence, or perhaps focus, or specific types of social skills, have been maximized.
Natural intelligence differences mean limited resources spent on educating to use technology will go extremely far for some populations compared to others. And in order to overcome those intelligence differences and hence the need to spend exorbitant amounts of money on certain populations (Africans) to attempt to equalize the populations..,
However, the resource differential will always remain and blacks will never catch up without a bottleneck to kill off the stupider relative to the smarter (barring direct genetic modification). And such evolution requires… a lack of equality in mating and rearing and caring and living opportunities.
The idea of the anti-HBD types is that somehow, every race and lineage will “get a turn” to be successful, because all it depends on is the “succesful” culture being transmitted to that person/group. This denies not only genetic determinism, but also simply the idea that lineages may tranmit more successful cultural practices than others (aka some cultures are better in an objective sense). So even in the non-HBD world, communistic practices taken to an extreme still fail. Even if cultures randomly vary, if one is better at operating in the world, that culture will succeed, and hence, you need to let the free market operate to some degree within your society. Stifle it and you remove the ability for even random but successful variations to take over and proliferate by acquiring more resources than others, and hence your society’s culture overall fails.
But often the question is “how and where” do we allow freedom? Where is there room to experiment?
Clearly it seems that those cultures with more room to experiment will win, as they play big. But it’s not simply high stakes experimentation but high trust, and high base intelligence and long-term thinking that leads to good long term cultural practices proliferating.
I think China may have a lot going for it, but the fact that it is completely untrustworthy to the West, and makes it a mission to oppose the Western hegemony, while not offering anything better besides not being multiracial, gay, and jewish, means it is destined to never overtake the West, at least for any real amount of time. There’s nothing special about Chinese culture that is not already offered in many pockets of the Western world, and it’s rapid industrialization style and IP theft is not a successful “long-term” culture, it’s simply an obvious competitive measure taking advantage of a specific opportunity in history, since such things would not be possible without Western technology and the global economy… meaning if China was the world leader they would cease to be modern China anyway.
So, they offer nothing culturally, really. Especially since Japan and Korea exist, which are superior except for land and diversity.
Obviously, the same goes for Russia and anywhere else.
“I feel like Melo and his liberal democracy believing friends, like RR and the online debaters like Destiny, always dismiss conspiracy theories and HBD and ethnocentric arguments, as well as genuine cultural superiority arguments”
I don’t think you really understand our views. RR, and I to a lesser extent, do believe that culture plays the defining roll in shaping mental abilities and outcomes. That heavily implies that we believe some cultures are better than others at fostering intellectual growth. If your goal is to get your children to score as high as possible on IQ tests then you should probably move to East Asia and enroll them in their public schools. Moreover, I’ve actually made guest posts in the past suggesting that some cultures are just superior.
There is a discussion to be had about individualism vs. collectivism and what the best balance is between freedom and authoritarianism. However, you, Mugabe, and Philosemitic are not the people to have those conversations with.
You missed the points. You deny HBD was one point, the other point was that you are communist, which obviously gradually eliminates the ability for culture to evolve through free market measures (let me give you a hint… there’s a reason all communist countries fail, lol), and liberal democracies are basically egalitarian free-for-alls (at least on the surface).
You’re also an atheist, and have a false understanding of the nature of reality, like RR. So that’s another reason your understanding of politics/society often fails. That’s also why Destiny’s wife cheated on him.
“That heavily implies that we believe some cultures are better than others at fostering intellectual growth.”
Except that RR only believes in domain specific knowledge, which he thinks IQ indicates. But you could argue that getting people on the same intellectual page and raising their tests on those subjective domains that reflect a specific culture is best for that culture, but again, it doesn’t reflect in your views of how to run society.
“You deny HBD was one point”
I do not deny HBD in the literal sense, but I do deny a lot of the political movement’s founding tenants.
“you are a communist, which obviously gradually eliminates the ability for culture to evolve through free market measures (let me give you a hint… there’s a reason all communist countries fail, lol)”
Culture does not need “free market” to evolve. The closest thing to real communism was our hunter gatherer ancestors, and their cultures evolved all the time.
“You’re also an atheist, and have a false understanding of the nature of reality, like RR. So that’s another reason your understanding of politics/society often fails. That’s also why Destiny’s wife cheated on him.”
Feel free to explain all of this.
Yea that’s the right inference to make about the role of culture in shaping mental abilities. I would say, though, that the DOMINANT culture is paramount, though. If you can’t navigate a dominant culture then you will fall behind. And 400 years of slavery and then Jim Crow stifled black Americans.
And Lurker, I don’t think equality is possible but equity is.
Is Lurker a theist?
Alright, I think I’ve got a good analogy for why the metaphysical view matters. I was going to say a bunch of different angles as to how being a physicalist atheist leads one to the wrong conclusions, like increased rates of depression/mental illness, decreased fertility, increased unhappiness and societal problems in non-monogamous societies, etc. and also how bad theories like communism (or whatever form of pseudo-communism you attribute to self-proclaiming communist states) can still lead to some good outcomes, given that if God is real and people’s desires are important to the makeup of reality, even bad economic systems will have their moments of good outcomes (just like bad situations can be changed or have a silver lining).
As my nigga 2pac puts it, “‘Did you hear about the rose that grew from a crack in the concrete?”
But basically, all economic theories that don’t correctly adhere to whatever is metaphysically correct will ultimately end up failing in some way or another, since the proper goal of an economic system or society is increased overall utility for every possible person in that society, which would only be possible with something compatible with the correct view of reality. So you will keep seeing problems come up when you reduce humans to physical parts, chemicals, and GDP, or when you assume physical determinism, and so on. It’s missing the forest for the trees. On the opposite end, a lot of God-fearing proud conservatives miss the trees for the forest, overimagining that every difference or problem is some sort of representation of absolute good or evil rather than simply being a nonconscious byproduct of something greater.
“Is Lurker a theist?”
Yes, now I am.
i have just listened to Tucker Carlson conversation with Pavlov Dourov.
1) It’s fascinating. The guy is really seductive.
2) He is probably a technical dummy and thus partially a narcissistic fraud, as he pretends to be the technical manager managing the 30 engineers of the company, with a math IQ around 135 at most.
3) His brother being consistently ranked 5-9 during 3 math olympiads (37-39/42 score) has probably a math IQ around 175. That’s such a wilde difference among those two. Maybe not the same dad.
4) I suppose French authorities having Pavel in custody, Nikolai will sing like a Bird wich is kinda sad. French are doing what the Russian didn’t despite Russian having a real interference organized by the CIA.
The high mathj IQ brother also seems like a total nerd (total opposite of Nikolai).
and what’s amazing about this guy is that living in Dubai he prends to be a non materialistic moved only by ideals like freedom, entrepreneurship and technology creativity. It’s like a living in a brothel pretending to be a monk. At least Madonna was joking while pretending to feel like a Virgin.
if I were worried about authorities, I wouldn’t be too confident in Telegram …
maybe having few emotions help avoid to fell for most con artists.