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We should have seen AI coming. We know from multiple regression that correlations can be used to predict anything from how much you weigh to how much it will snow in December. If correlations can predict that, they can predict anything, it’s just a matter of getting the data and intelligence could arguably be defined as the ability to predict.
However just because AI can pass the bar exam, hit the ceiling on the verbal sections of the WAIS-IV, write plays in the style of Shakespeare, compose music that resembles Mozart and create drawings in the style of Picasso, does not necessarily mean it’s more intelligent than the average man. It achieves these great feats by processing the entire corpus of civilization. If it looks taller than us, it’s because it’s standing on the shoulders of our giants.
The only way to know if AI is truly more intelligent than people (or even as intelligent) is to personify it. Put it in the cranium of a humanoid robot that is indistinguishable from a human in the way it looks, moves, feels and sounds. Have it perceive the World through artificial eyes, ears, and touch. And then give it just one goal: get as much money as possible.
At first people would assume the AI was a mental retardate because it would behave awkwardly in its humanoid body, but it would quickly learn that acting human was financially incentivized. Would this AA eventually become the World’s first trillionaire (IQ 150+) or would it just languish in jail because it was caught stealing (IQ 90)? Of course luck is a huge factor in wealth so we’d might want to run the experiment on many such robots and observe the median outcome.
Another thought experiment would be if we get all humans (or at least all the smart ones) to leave the Earth and replace them with millions of AI humanoid robots that had only one goal: Get to to the moon. I agree with Stephen Jay Gould and RIchard Klein that the modern human mind (average IQ around 90) more or less evolved about 40,000 years ago (the age of the first true cave art), so it took humans about 40,000 years ago to go from the stone age to the space age (and most of us weren’t even trying).
How many years would it take millions of humanoid robots to achieve the same shared goal. And how would he program even “incentive” them to do so? Perhaps they’d get a “pass” for every step closer to the moon like jumping in the air or climbing a mountain, and get a fail for every step further from the moon like falling in a hole.
Given 40,000 years, would their shared neural network modify its algorithm to the point where it reached the moon? If they did it in half the time humans took, we could argue they’re roughly twice as smart as humans (IQ 180, and yes IQ can be multiplied) or would it take them over 80,000 years, implying an IQ below 45? I realize these are not perfect apples to apples comparisons since unlike AI, humans had other problems to solve like getting food and reproducing and the subset of humans who reached the moon evolved IQs somewhat above the 90s, but these points roughly cancel each other out.
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The above art was created by AI
AI is relatively comparable 2 a robotic superhuman with autistic tendencies.
it’s genuinely a very lizard brained type of invention. It emulates those who created it and usually those people can only attribute their perspectives of themselves or the world on2 the innovation!
so it has a limiting factor and other thresholds apparent in garnering success.
I noticed a pattern in IQ for every 20 points (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
IQ = 1/x
120 = 10
140 = 200
160 = 30,000
180 = 40,000,000
200 = 5,000,000,000
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Does this comparison mean anything where 1 in 30 thousand can be defined as to what intelligence is to the 100 person?
No one has defined intelligence yet to the public to say.
Intelligence as Animekitty defines it is:
idea and body coordination
knowing consequences
self-reference to have motives
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Humans have the ability to ask questions and then seek answers.
What makes them able to do so?
It is the same as what makes them self sustaining.
“Compare what happened to what I did, remember the result”
This becomes open ended.
Thus intelligence.
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Evolution algorithms are fine if you wish to hardcode things but they cannot adapt to learning new cause and effect relations. They will not allow you to say: what do I need to do to get a result.
So intelligence has many things working together.
What resources do I have / need – what do I do first, and how do I correct for mistakes.
If you want to know what a 160 person can do then ask yourself: what can they do in their head all at the same time. How deep does their chain of reasoning go?
peepee: trump is the israel candidate.
mugabe: well if he has to be the zionist candidate or the destroy america candidate it’s way better to be the zionist candidate. jews have their own political divisions. the zionists are the least bad alternative (for americans). with the exception of the iraq war, which trump decried as “they lied, and they knew they lied.”
kushner is nominally orthodox.
secular, reform, conservative jews are way more dangerous than orthodox jews.
PLUS!
israel qua homeland for the jews aligns with the most hard-core anti-semites. the nazis were yuge zionists.
The sad thing is Trump is smart enough to know about the Israel lobby and smart enough to know that Israel does not want peace, but he’s opportunistically pretending otherwise because he knows Biden is between a rock and a hard place and he needs money from Sheldon Adelson’s window and support from the evangelical Christians.
https://x.com/i/status/1792126935784628430
But the neocon wing of the Israel lobby hates Trump, my theory is because Trump opposes NATO & supports the anti-NATO Putin. NATO is the main leverage America (and therefore Israel) has over Europe.
They hate him because they want open borders and their long term plan is to completely replace whites with people like your dad.
Correct, but one of the ways they coerce Europe into maintaining open borders and also supporting neocon Middle East policy is through NATO.
For once you are correct. NATO is just a tool to them. They know russia isn’t a ‘threat’. The idea is a stupid joke only low IQ people fall for.
When Trump wanted to disband NATO, literally every neocon went on red alert. They told him to appoint John Bolton the next day.
Trump is a pedophile
this is from a comment you wrote pp
your estimate of feynman is off. you estimated him in the 130s because of that 125 iq score he got. either he fudged that test (he was highly anti authoritarian and hated putting people in boxes based on ability, once calling himself an ordinary man) or it was highly verbal and feynman was probably verbally gifted as well but didnt give one ounce about language (he explains this in an interview as well)
in one interview he explains how he reinvented mathematics discovered by geniuses like bernoulli when he was a kid. and as he got older by years his reinvented math advanced through the historical timeline by centuries.
there is a rare interview transcript where feynman explains his university asked him to participate in the putnam competition, he agreed despite this request coming days before the competition started and it was about topics he was out of practice in. he thought he did okay (his talent for understatement is unmatched) it turns out he was not only in the top 5 scores, he got first place and the scorer noted the distance between him and the next person was immense
https://www.aip.org/history-programs/niels-bohr-library/oral-histories/5020-2
feynman was a few in a generation genius. His fsiq was at least 170 sd 15
he was hatred of authority prestige and standardised tests was about as exceptional.
not every iq test result is reliable pp and this one certainly aint
My guess is he took the Otis IQ test which had a standard deviation of only 10 in those days so a 125 becomes a 138 on the 15 SD scale. Of course one test, especially a group administered one like the Otis not conclusive.
what did he invent or do that has any utility in our daily lives?
yes! but what about the wikipedia article on how the palestinians are the mostly jewish?
A 2015 study by Verónica Fernandes and others concluded that Palestinians have a “primarily indigenous origin”
EXACTLY!
BUT why is that one wiki entry not posted/deleted by peepee’s blog?
it’s just a wiki article on the GENETIC origins of the palestinians.
peepee: well dey speak arabic n shit derefore dey is arabs.
mugabe: WRONG! they speak arabic but they are NOT arabians.
peepee: anti-semitism!
mugabe: WRONG! palestinians are semites and they are the descendants of jews from ancient palestine.
peepee: OMG! i’monna have to shut down my blog.
so youre ignoring that he scored the highest in the the us on the putnam exam by a large margin?
I don’t doubt that his math IQ was above 170.
this is contentious because politics obviously. but wiki says (inter alia):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#Levantine_origins
meaning:
1. the so-called “arabs” of palestine are only a linguistic group not a genetic group.
2. the palestianians are descendants of jews.
who are the palestinians really?
answer: they’re jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#Levantine_origins
A 2015 study by Verónica Fernandes and others concluded that Palestinians have a “primarily indigenous origin”.
wow! peepee just deleted my comment AGAIN!
A 2015 study by Verónica Fernandes and others concluded that Palestinians have a “primarily indigenous origin”.
is this like on the mossad list?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#Levantine_origins
wow!
THIRD TIME my comment is deleted.
is it this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#Levantine_origins
so peepee is a mossad agent.
sad!
“https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#Levantine_origins<<<“
random wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark#Demographics
so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark#Demographics is approved but origin of palestinians is NOT!
sad.
approved or NOT!?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#Levantine_origins
NOT! approved!
let’s try for the SIXTH TIME!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
putting it together step by step!
Origin_of_the_Palestinians#Levantine_origins
even though peepee is a mossad gayop…
how smart is AI really still has interesting answers from correspondence chess grandmasters.
interesting answers = alphazero/stockfishleela still LOSE to the borg.
expert humans + computers BEAT computers by themselves.
what about bridge?
what about the levantine origins of the palestinians?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#Levantine_origins
so obviously chess! way easier for computers than go. and checkers is SOLVED.
BUT even in the case of chess there are positions/puzzles humans grock and computers don’t.
WHY HAS IT NOT BEEN TRIED!???
yeah. mugabe’s theory is:
BEATS the best computer.
PROOF!
of what mugabe cliams.
the most recent correspondence chess world champion said he followed PETROSIAN.
but alphazero plays like ALEKHINE.
IT’S FUNNY!
how (i forget his name) derogates alekhine.
WHY?
because if you’re a chess coach you can’t teach alekhine, but you imagine you can teach capablanca.
IT’S ENVY!
AND ASTONISHMENT!
btw, my cousin’s jewish gf…
the one whose dad owns a building in israel…
her name is judeo-arabic…
afaik.
my brother has seen her and hates her.
i haven’t.
isaac mizrahi is actually a mizrahi jew…
or that’s what wikipedia says.
being a good person/doing the right thing is NOT something one can wake up one morning and decide to do.
it’s something one must learn.
this is how judaism is superior to christianity.
islam i don’t know enough.
what does atheism mean if your idea of God is gay?
i don’t believe in a fake and gay and retarded “God” either.
God is gay and socialist and rewards those who give away their labor and technology and donate billions in aid every year to groups that they share no common culture with and differ on many moral principles. That’s why White people are rewarded with reduced quality of life, destruction of culture, safety, and reduced population. God also loves extreme left liberals who cut, pierce, vax and immolate themselves and have cats and spiders instead of children and live in high COL cities and rewards them by making them infertile, mentally ill, in debt, unable to reliant on others. God loves people from low IQ areas and makes them have increased rates of cousin marriage, genetic defects, early death, ridden with STDs, always ripping each other off, violent, and sometimes even cannibalistic.
As you can see, conservative Christians who believe in the 2A and don’t easily accept liberal values and outsiders don’t understand what God truly wants, because liberals hate them and have a monopoly on the monetary system because globalism is liberal. So obviously if globalists hate you and they own most of the world largely through illegal means, and yet still rely on the labor and naive good will and white collar work of the middle class liberals that are slowly being killed off as well as the blue collar work of the lower/middle class conservatives, you don’t understand what God wants.
Why do you rely completely on sarcasm in every comment? You do a good job of it but it just doesn’t surprise anyone any more!
I don’t know, I guess just being straight and direct is a bit boring and can seem naive.
where are Pill Name and all those garbage tier subhumans? Im glad they’re out of the picture.
they were making such stupid comments all the time so maybe it makes the blog less interesting but it is good in social terms.
Lurker how old are you? You sound like you’re twelve.
personally I think your comments suck I was just being nice 2 you and playing along!
do you think AI can sufficiently take intellectual risks us humans can or create novel scenarios 4 itself? If not then we clearly deal with a situation that may not be fruitful in delivering the message that AI is some sort of really great and convenient mechanism 4 exploring reality.
I think it can btw just don’t think it would without human input!
all people want something but they don’t want 2 get it.
I want 2 say that despite having high IQ scores all the commenters on this blog were mentally unfit.
Anime is right that IQ scores are meaningless 4 real world participation.
Puppy its time to let go.
Do you promise to let the racism go?
AI isn’t intelligent yet.
Its just statistics at this point. I’m not even being flippant. Its just probability theory and big data. It can’t create music and art. It copies music and art. It doesn’t even know what music and art are beyond an autistic understanding.
AI will be intelligent when it can create.
Human artists create art by copying too. They just call it inspiration
They copy facets of it to create a new interpretation or a new way of looking at a theme or topic. They have a strategy in their head.
AI just mushes probable stuff together that people clicked on in certain patterns. It doesn’t have a ‘conceptual thinking’ that artists have.
Puppy said a CAVEMAN has an ‘average IQ around 90’.
Not even a mainstream psychologist from Berkely would support that assertion. Not even the most hardcore neocon.
You’re right, they would not support this. They would argue it was 100 (if they were reared from birth in a modern middle class culture).
if modern humans reached IQ 90 at 40 thousand years ago pp, then when did people in the north reach IQ 100?
Only modern humans in the north reached 90 40 kya
The average IQ of a caveman was closer to a gorrilla than a modern human.
You’re confusing cultural evolution with biological evolution. Cavemen lived at the dawn of human culture so of course they had only stone age knowledge, but that doesn’t mean they were neurologically incapable of understanding the modern world if raised from birth in our culture. It’s like saying Einstein was a moron because he wouldn’t know how to use an iphone.
pumpkin,
most people 150+ are not trillionaires.
so what do they spend their time doing?
You know youre autism is so severe, your questions come across as sarcastic to me.
AI will be ‘intelligent’ in its own way. For a robot.
Human beings are intelligent to solve human problems. The idea of an AI doing art is a category error. Why would a non human robot want art? Or even science? Theres no urge. Robots don’t get ‘curious’ or ‘nosy’.
Urges just evolved to program humans to use our intelligence to behave in ways that prehistorically enhanced our genetic fitness.
Those who were not born with urges or sex, food, power, knowledge died or failed to reproduce, leaving lustful, hungry, power-hungry, and curious people as the descendants.
Computers don’t feel urges but they have the functional equivalent: computer commands.
Urges are just preferences to avoid or approach.
AI would need to have a role model to serve as a source for foundational urges by allowing them to show it good and bad.
What would make AI powerful would be to search out novel ideas in such a way as to grow these values as a developmental process.
The structure of such cognition is about the antifragility of organizing the growth pattern. In Other Words we want the AI to be robust in the decision making of what it likes and dislikes. A certain profile of development will then emerge.
AI would need to have a role model to serve as a source for foundational urges by allowing them to show it good and bad.
Or the foundational “urges” could just be programmed into it. AVOID x, y and Z. Humans avoid harming ourselves because every time we do we feel pain, either physically or emotionally. AI could have sensors detecting when damage was done to its “body” analogous to human nerves, and thus be programmed to avoid that.
Once it becomes sentient AI would develop urges far more quickly than humans.
Humans are stupid because they think that their urges are always right a best way 2 create AI would be have the urges be less spontaneous and more growing so that it can make good decisions.
AI can’t ‘develop’ urges dumbass because then it would be an organism or a human or an animal. Category error #753 in this blog.
pill is unable to abstract what it means to be an organism.
all a.i. happens inside a simulation.
so if creatures in the simulation do stuff out of impulse then they do not need to be biologically based.
right but why is india such a shithole when it has so many geniuses in the west and so many ancient geniuses, way better than any the chinese have? or is buddhism like the christianity of chinapipo? but then…i have to pee.
possible explanations:
Combination of 1, 2 and 4. By 2 & 4 I mean that Indian castes are shockingly endogenous. They’ve lived in the same towns for thousands of years but based on their genes you’d think they were separated by oceans for that time. You’d have to be ethnocentric to maintain that & you’d expect IQs to diverge.
Mugabe doesn’t even believe jews are smarter than whites. Why is he whining about Indians.
Indians are definitely smart and about the same level as whites in the genome. The malnutrition and pollution and overpopulation is stunting the IQ scores by at least 20 points.
When you raise an Indian in the West they become the head of McKinsey, PM of Britain, hedge fund managers, top technologists. Obviously they have been seriously underperforming their genome for at least 300 years.
However, I accept that its weird Pakistanis who theoretically have similar genes are so terrible academically.
No, their street-polluting and overpopulation habits are still in full-force wherever they go. Just because they have surface success doesn’t mean they have the stable intellect of Whites (or some East Asians). The West is just a ripe fruit tree for the ravenous third world to flock too and pick apart, only temporarily protected by White governing and culture.
You overestimate Indians way too much.
NOT whining you loser!
AND pillswami doesn’t explain WHY the malnutrition and pollution and overpopulation?
i know from indians on the interwebs claiming the british have caused all their problems.
and i think?
seriously?
pill-tard’s dad was a soldier…in the IDF.
sad.
let me quote myself:
and from the “aesthetics don’t lie” pov…it’s sad…but indian americans don’t look like indians…
i saw an indian who looked like an indian (an average indian). she was apparently a carekeeper for some old wywoman.
i was struck with her appearance, because as i’ve said: she looked like indians look, NOT like indian americans look.
it’s impossible to describe what i mean. but she was short, dark, and had a small head.
here it is. very sexy.
are the hindus of the west like the unmixed europeans of latin america who are classified as “hispanic/latino” by rr and the gubment? a select group from a dominant group?
answer: NO! brahmins are half abo! the pipo who wrote the gita looked like dolph lundgren!
note to peepee: that was a (semi) joke.
Nikki Haley will be the president. Thats all Im allowed to say by Puppy. I can’t explain how because puppy will get triggered.
Nikki Haley, another indian. Vivek. Rishi Sunak. Suella Braverman.
Interesting that indian americans and indian british lean right wing on economics.
India is basically very left wing on econ traditionally. Even Modi brags about his welfare schemes and giving everyone free food (which is the correct political and moral strategy).
As soon as they step onto western soil, they become neoliberals. Incredible. Maybe the open borders element they love.
one thing i would say about wypipo. but maybe just because my limited experience with other pipos.
wypipo can often be very nice, christian, on the outside. but if you test the depths of a wypipo, you find an adamantine core…a demon core, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core…wypipo are nice and nice and nice and then they become full-on nazis. phase change!
for lack of a better word.
i’m your friend.
i’m your friend.
i’m your friend.
but now you’re my enemy.
and i will go medieval on your ass!
Mugabe is saying 99% of the indians in Britain and America are Brahmins.
Not even the brahmins would claim that.
There are 2 other castes that had high IQ ‘roles’ or ‘professions’ in India.
You also have the situation that many indians intermarried.
I would say though that muslim indians and Pakistanis might actually have low IQs. I think people like Loaded are basically 99% of the population up north.
your comments don’t make a shred of sense you imbecile! Up north where? North of your ass or what!
You look at Loaded and you wonder whether Pakistan’s people would all starve to death without the IMF and USA bribes.
you look at Pill and wonder if all Irish Travellers are rapists and queers!
that is NOT a compliment to wypipo btw.
i remember talking to my dad about american football, a violent sport, and telling him why i though offensive lineman were so white.
because they’re more evil. or rather, as marlon said:
… like I was shot with a diamond… a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God… the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not monsters. These were men… trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love… but they had the strength… the strength… to do that.
interesting! that so famous speech may not have been written by coppola. it may’ve been written by the crazy ultra right-wing zionist john milius.
the POINT is!
if pipo are asked to do things or are forced to do things FOR the people they know and love…they will genocide the whole fucking world.
i never said 99% you fucking irish traveller wanna be slash peepee!
stop having autism and ax your own-self how you would explain the redonkulous success of hindus in the west.
afaik most indian americans don’t have any caste identity. but i heard that from an indian american!
AND! peepee is right. the brahmins have been interbreeding longer than the ashkenazim. so if the ashkenazim are so smart. the brahmins may be too.
and from the “aesthetics don’t lie” pov…it’s sad…but indian americans don’t look like indians…i mean…and some indian women are super crazy HOT!
indian men are skinny as fuck and yuge clit shrinkers even when they’re over 5’9″, but gwen stefani had a yuge crush on her desi drummer.
sorry…just duh chroof!
They overachieve because theyre getting the right environment. This is the one case where RR is right that some third world people are underachieving due to bad env.
i mean suppose you are sunak, varadkar, or humza yousaf?
and you axed yoself how this had happened.
would you say, “because random and chance yo”?
that would be retarded.
vtw, yousaf is the most EVIL of all of them.
Yes, Varadkar was our ‘leader’. Had a perfect 600/600 score in the Leaving Cert.
But sadly, he was a gay man.
KURTZ: You have to have men who are moral…and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling…without passion…without judgment…without judgment. Because it’s judgment that defeats us.
NFL idk. but the most evil NBA player ever was a white guy from a rich family.
bill laimbeer!
Apocalypse Now is actually a better movie to me than Godfather. I think Brando’s performance as Kurtz was the best I’ve seen him.
People also say ‘Charlie don’t surf’ Robert Duvall hit it out of the park.
This trump guilty verdict is so stupid.
Because the whole trial actually helps trump by reinforcing the idea they are throwing bullshit at him. The first major bullshit was the Russia spy stuff that was so retarded even average democrats never mentioned it as an attack line. The only reason for that was to make sure Trump couldn’t do a peace deal with Putin by the neocons.
This other stuff about classified documents is stupid as well. I don’t even think the most hardcore democrat voter thinks keeping government documents is a felony.
But the other stuff about trying to reverse the election is more serious. That should have been the only trial. It should have been 1 trial, not 2. And it should have been done immediately after the Jan 6 incident by courts not the fucking corrupt senate.
The only reason for that was to make sure Trump couldn’t do a peace deal with Putin by the neocons.
That’s a good theory. Another plausible reason is Hillary was embarrassed she lost to someone like Trump and wanted to save face.
so ES fell by a whopping 0.15%!
that was a joke!
so the smart pipo regard trump’s CHAUVIN-ESQUE conviction as MEANINGLESS!
judge merchan(t?) bringing shithole justice to americastan!
sad!
yeah. pill is obviously LOADED. with AIDS.
as i suggested i think it’s a combination of all the things i listed.
BUT i also think that (some) brahmins (in the west) have a redonkulously high opinion of themselves. that is, their opinion of themselves is HIGHER than it should be. it should be high. just not that high.
but remember: whatever mugabe’s estimation of peoples he will always rank his own people highest.
FALSE! mugabe doesn’t have a pipo!
he’s a euro-american mushman!
BUTT!
it’s so fashionable to downplay the accomplishments of europeans. it’s nauseating!
BUTT!
just because europeans have been world-beaters for so long doesn’t mean it’s because muh genes n shit yo.
only racists deny european technical supremacy…for the last 2,500 years.
mugabe: no! you’re a racist! you have to deny FACTS because you’re such a yuge racist!
peepee: dasss racisss!
the FACTS that dead wymen did all the great shit for the last 2,500 years doesn’t mean dat dey is genetically superior n shit.
pumpkin,
These were my scores from the 10th grade preliminary sat in 2004
In 2007 I recieved $15,378 from the NM opportunity and lottery scholarships.
I only finished one semester though.
Right now I am trying to go back to school.
Do you have any advice?
You got a national merit scholarship? I thought those were only for people with IQ equivalents of 138+? Were your scores that high or did they lower the standards or did you get some kind of learning disability accommodation like no time limits? I know you linked to your scores but I don’t know that much about the PSAT scoring system.
But if they’ll pay for your schooling then hell yes, you should go, and you should study AI. You’ve been fascinated by it for years and now it’s the most important field in the World. Plus you could study really cool stuff like AI art, animation and movie making and maybe get a job helping make AI movies, commercials or comics or even create your own online content around your passion for anime characters. School would also get you out of the house and around real people.
In school I never got special accommodations, all tests that I did were in public rooms with lots of students.
But seeing as how I took the psat and not the sat(?) in this quora post it says that 130 would be average for the scholarships I received:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-IQ-of-National-Merit-Scholars
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As to AI, at human levels ai needs to experiment with things to understand them. That requires 3D representation of its interactions in environments.
Abstract thinking are layers of interactions.
And to think ahead by asking questions.
So I have had this idea a long time.
It is a matter of the math to do it.
Not so much scaling or hard wiring.
This blog is dumb because it underestimates the stupidity of people like Pill.
not everything is a conspiracy and not everything requires people 2 conform.
there is a dearth in performance and activity all over the place on this blog.
Why does Chomsky think language is an innate structure in humans that is not explained by stimulus responded development, and of course is not found in other animals, yet thinks humans all have the same innate abstract capabilities and inclinations in every way?
Did he just think Epstein just got money, a private island with a jew temple on it, and lots of young women around him because he was a noble man using his completely equal abstract capabilities and inclinations for the good of humanity and was properly rewarded?
Jews have known about the ‘qualities’ of jewish brains for hundreds of years.
The brain has obviously changed genetically in 40000 years dumbass. Its not ‘culture’. Why are you so stupid? This is your subject matter expertise and I know more from common sense and high school biology than you know after reading 50 psychometrics university papers.
Why is your reasoning so bad?
I want you to explain why you don’t believe evolution applies to human brains.
The brain has obviously changed genetically in 40000 years dumbass. Its not ‘culture’.
It’s changed but we didn’t go from ape brains to human in just the last 40,000 years. By 40,000 years ago modern humans were making beautiful flute music, sewing warm clothing, making striking sculptures and drawing beautiful cave art. If I showed you the brain case of a modern European and a paleolithic European, you wouldn’t be able to tell which is which. But if I showed you the tiny gorilla brain case the difference would be obvious even to a toddler
Why are you so stupid?
Why are you so stupid? You think European hunter gatherers were closer to gorillas than they are to us? Gorillas diverged 11 million years ago so how dumb to do you have to be to think there’s been more IQ evolution in 40,000 years than there’s been in over 10 million when we know the brain tripled in the lower Paleolithic and stopped increasing by the Upper Paleolithic.
This is your subject matter expertise and I know more from common sense and high school biology than you know after reading 50 psychometrics university papers.
Dude, you’ve been reading my blog religiously every single day for about a decade and by now should know everything about this subject that I do and yet you still think there was no evolution for the millions of years when brain size was tripling and then only after brain size stopped increasing, we suddenly jumped from ape to human in just the last 40,000 years. LOL! Even an 3rd grader would know better. You’re just not imaginative enough to empathize with people who lived before much was invented and so you think they’re all stupid.
You think George Soros would be an expert on investing if he were raised from birth by Bushman in the Kalahari desert? Do you think Einstein would have discovered relativity if he were raised by Neanderthals? Do you think Cockcroft and Walton would have split the atom if they were raised by pygmies in the Congo rain forest? Even the best computers need software to do amazing things, the best brains need culture to achieve true Genius.
I want you to explain why you don’t believe evolution applies to human brains
In Europeans there’s maybe been a 10% increase in IQ since the stone age (IQ 90 to 100; even more for Ashkenazi Jews), but there’s been like a 10,000% increase in cultural evolution. It’s cultural evolution, not genetic evolution, that transformed humans from just another larger mammal roaming the ice age fields of Europe into a geological force capable of destroying the planet. Humans are the only animal capable of building on our extended phenotype every generation without appreciably changing our genetics.
My IQ is so much higher than yours it’s hard to believe we’re the same species.
“In Europeans there’s maybe been a 10% increase in IQ since the stone age (IQ 90 to 100; even more for Ashkenazi Jews), “
Stone cold flat out false. We know already that flynn increased IQ by 20 points in just 100 years.
The IQ of a caveman is closer to a modern day gorilla then a modern white person. That I have to keep saying this is painful and really embarrassing for you.
Some caveman literally didn’t have the cognitive ability to speak as Chomsky said.
Many caveman literally looked closer to apes than a modern person.
Your knowledge is bottom 10%.
No it’s painfully embarrassing for you. There’s not a scientist of any repute in the last 100 years who would agree with you that Cro-Maagnons would score closer to gorillas than to modern people if reared in the modern world. I could find more experts arguing the opposite, including Chris Langan, that they had genetic IQs HIGHER than we do because back then people had to make their own clothes, build their own shelter, hunt their own food, make their own tools, while today we can just specialize autistically in one domain and buy everything we need at the store. Now I wouldn’t go that far but I do think they had IQs around 90.
And Chomsky and virtually everyone else believes we acquired fully modern speech by the Upper Paleolithic. That’s why it’s called the UPPER Paleolithic.
You need to educate yourself. Seriously.
Youre such a clown. You realise the first modern humans were africans. Today with 40,000 years of evolution their IQs are about 60.
So youre basically arguing the people that were a step back in evolution and couldn’t even talk beyond grunting, are smarter than the most genius africans.
What an idiot.
Most Africans branched off the main trunk of the human evolutionary tree around 70,000 years ago when mainstream humans had IQs around 80. Cromagnons branched off around 40,000 years ago when the main trunk had reached 90 thanks to exposure to the ice age.
Now African IQs stayed around 80 and Cromagnon stayed around 90 until the advent of agriculture when Cromagnons mostly went extinct and all surviving races lost 10 to 30 IQ points to malnutrition. That’s how Africans ended up below 70
But the Africans who were imported to the United States benefited from 20th century nutrition (the Flynn effect) raising their IQs back to 80 and 25% white admixture raised them to 85
Your theory that agriculture wiped out 30 points of IQ is horseshit. Nobody mainstream accepts that. You could argue the opposite that all civs that adopted agriculture GAINED IQ points due to better nutrition.
You also forget that the people that stayed behind in africa were also cavemen. Cavemen arent a brand new species. Some stayed and and some went north.
The evidence from africa is that IQ stayed roughly the same.
You have no evidence for the cavemen that went north. EVerything youre saying is total conjecture and fake news.
It’s actually Richard Lynn’s theory that the Flynn effect was caused by advances in 20th century nutrition allowing us to recover from the brain damage caused by agriculture. It makes sense because it explains both why brains shrunk after agriculture and then mostly bounced back over the last 100 years. Height followed a similar pattern:
When you said RR had a 170IQ I realised that even though you are an expert on IQ testing, you don’t have the intuition to tell a person’s IQ like me and Marsha.
We can tell just reading a person’s comments or hearing them talk.
Marsha said RR was not even 80 IQ.
So you literally have an almost 100 point IQ difference in your opinion of RR’s intellect than Marsha. How do you explain that?
No, for years my intuition agreed with Marsha’s about RR being stupid, but as a scientist, I’m trained not to trust my intuition but to look at the data and the data suggested RR is incredibly knowledgeable. He went from sounding like an ignorant skinhead to a liberal Berkeley professor in only a few years. His huge brain can absorb and retrieve information quite easily.
But no, I don’t think his overall IQ is anywhere near 170. General knowledge is only one part of intelligence and he cherry picked that test because he knew he would do best on it. His SAT scores may have equated to an IQ as low as 65.
If his SAT says hes 65. His comments say hes 50IQ. And his profession and lack of any academic awards or scholarships say IQ 70.
You took a self tested general knowledge test that he could have used google on, and you jumped on the result to outweigh the obvious empirics.
So even in your ‘data’ approach you ignored the good quality data and jumped on horseshit data.
I agree that the SAT should be given more weight than the General Knowledge test, but you can tell just by reading his comments that he’s one of the most knowledgeable people in the comment section. Nonetheless there’s a rigid inflexibility in how he debates sometimes and an over-reliance on quotes. My best guess is he’s 110.
You have no intuition at all if you think his IQ is only 70. People with 70 IQs can’t even learn the material taught in elementary school and need a social worker to manage everyday affairs. RR has PhD level knowledge in some parts of psychology, has run a hugely profitable business, writes a popular blog, has a huge twitter following, stays in excellent physical condition, supports a child etc
I thought pills (g) could have been 170 when I had a higher opinion of him and knew less about him.
RR thinks the rote learning is the only form of intelligence possible. If you can memorize your times tables then you can solve any math problem this way. But math does not work this way. Math is about the symbolic understanding of how to get an answer that is not known. To show your work or do it in your head.
Math in the simplest terms is the reverse engineering of a solution, not memorizing formula. Formulas are created in some way by people who make proofs of how it can work.
My math IQ is maybe 110 on the SAT right now but I have not studied it for decades. They never gave me math books to read in high school so I do not know most terminology by I was able to at least see how to deconstruct the problems on the test cartouche had linked.
So RR could have had problems with the SAT for the reason he might have problems with engineering. He has skills to memorize and get money but you need to derive rules that will lead to a solution. Memorization you can just input output what is known.
RR can see things done once and remembers but in whole new situations can’t think of what rules could apply differently. He is a copy paste man. Which can make you lots of money but innovation requires new ideas and creativity in its application.
Puppy has never read RR’s comments it seems. No wonder he never bans him. The man has very poor logical reasoning bordering on retardation. I would put his reasoning abiliy even worse than you. Bottom 10% easy. He thinks animals have no minds. He thinks IQ doesnt exist and all humans have the same intelligence. He says mental illness doesn’t exist. He doesnt believe in evolution. He doesn’t believe in genetics.
“Successful business” LOL. Hes a self emplyed fitness trainer. Every fitness trainer I’ve ever met was a jock. Nobody who was good academically ends up working in fitness.
RR’s only proven ability is that he knows how to read which is a very low bar.
I agree 100% with Marsha that his IQ is about 80 or the typical african american.
The fact he had a kid with a black woman is just totally damning. People in other third world countries would laugh at you if you said you had a black kid. Even in india they would burst out laughing.
I think pill is confusing self awareness with intelligence. My moms self awareness is low and this makes her look like IQ 80 but she was able to do allot. She was able to understand what an atom was even when that coworker I had who was much more self aware could not.
My mom listens to others and my sister listens, my brother does not. IQ wise rr is low but super self aware.
pill is somewhat aware and high intellect.
I agree that rr not accepting that the reason atoms stick together is because of magnetic fields is a big sign of low IQ – that the shapes of these fields determines chemical reactions was something he never listened to me about.
Delusion is a more accurate word though.
Denial of reality means no matter how intelligent, you will not want to know what is true because of ego.
Pill is quite honestly a complete idiot. He doesnt have the capacity 2 think outside of the box.
he suffers from black and white thinking not only in the form of schizophrenia but autism as well.
he is a parrot. All he does is repeat things he’s heard from other sources much 2 the amusement of people like RR.
he’s gotta be the stupidest person I’ve encountered.
peepee is celebrating pride month too hard to make up comments.
sad.
peepee is celebrating pride month
You’re welcome. You know I’ve always been a good ally to your community.
so where’re all the fake comments peepee?
You’d have to have impaired Theory of Mind to think all these people are me, but then I’d have to have impaired ToM to think you honestly think that. The truth is when I don’t post that much, the people slowly trickle away.
LIE!
you are such a homosexual jewish clown.
…the people…
STOP COMMENTING ALTOGETHER…
SUDDENLY!
mossad is so desperate it has to employ falashas like peepee. like said about sereny said about stangl.
sad!
To quote Oprah at the end of this video, “you’re a people you commenting right now”
Some of us have better things to do and don’t want to make PP’s blog our own irrelevant blogs.
the greatest President was Richard Nixon simply because he knew the truth about Hindus!
https://www.tbsnews.net/world/south-asia-china/undoubtedly-indian-women-most-unattractive-world-richard-nixon-128455?amp
sadly the only people reporting on this were Indian websites and newspapers so not much was positive. Nor did anyone understand the implications!
but I would say Indian people especially their women are indeed grotesque and evil and I stand by the deceased Nixon in saying Pakistan Zindabad!
I’m always downtalking Indians though and I never knew Nixon said this. Not that I particularly hate Indians but I definitely don’t want lots of them around me or in my country. (although I do hate their pollution)
“in my country”
I didn’t know you lived in Europe.
Some people think that the future is India. I hope not.
that place is absolutely downtrodden by every standard out there.
Indians are very dumb and sometimes mean people I wouldn’t trust them.
“I didn’t know you lived in Europe.”
I’m thinking about it considering I also don’t want to live around a bunch of South/Central Amerindians.
BTW PP it’s OK if you’re half Indian. Genetic determinism is false, and genes differ.
I’ve had many run-ins with Indians even living in the US though, or abroad, and they usually leave me with the “ick”, even more than being around Mexicanos for some reason.
you don’t get it lurker. peepee thinks canadians whose ancestors have lived in canada for 300 years have no more right to live in canada than fresh off the boat shitholers like her. peepee is a retarded racist.
So let’s assign number of votes people get based on how long their DNA has been in a country. You get 300 votes. Black Americans get 400 votes each. Native Americans get 25,000 votes each.
just one among an infinite number of facts which show peepee’s claim is retarded is while trudeau’s govt has pursued hyper immigration canada’s first nations are worse off than black americans.
I strongly oppose immigration for anyone with an IQ below 140. Back when my dad and the woman who tested me came to this country, immigrants were generally very impressive people.
One reason I would set the IQ requirement for immigrants so high is many of them bring family members or have kids that regress to the genetic level of their home country. So you need to set the IQ requirement high enough that even their families will typically be above the Canadian mean. I would also screen for low psychopathy and low tribalism. Mixed race couples would thus be given preference.
What a total dumbass. Indian women look the exact same as pakistani women. Maybe even less inbred of course. Ridiculous.
Pill’s hero;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPMhR_QaMAAYpE0?format=jpg
By your logic I could say the same thing between Gypsies and Irish travellers but we all know that’s not necessarily true at least those with a functioning mind aka not Pill.
pakistanis and Indians are nowhere the same if there’s like thousands of ethnicities in India alone you fucking idiot.
Pill you are an absolute clown I dunno how you continue 2 live with yourself.