[UPDATE: 8:09 PM EASTERN STANDARD TIME: After correcting some errors on this test and article discovered by Teffec and Melo, it is now back online. If you did not get a chance to take it, you can do so now. You can register with a fake name if you want (email optional)]
I created the Pairs test because of a void I had noticed in the field of psychometrics. Although there are tests that are very culture reduced (performance subtests on the Wechsler) most of these seemed to load heavily on spatial ability. What if your testing someone who doesn’t speak English or may have never learned to read in any language, but who nonetheless has a naturally high verbal IQ?
What is needed, it seemed to me, is a test that gets at verbal, semantic, or symbolic modes of thinking but without using language. I immediately began thinking of some of the more fluid tests of verbal ability and wondered, what if we could recreate these tests with pictures instead of words.
At first I began thinking of the odd man out test (which of these is not like the others: yellow, red, blue, seven, green?) and thought, this could easily be made more culture fair by translating it into picture form. Indeed there are IQ tests like this discussed in one of Jensen’s book, but I quickly became discouraged by the error introduced by guessing. To solve this problem, I created the Pairs test where instead of guessing which of the 5 pictures is not like the others (1 in 5 chance of guessing right), you have to guess which pair of the 5 pictures ARE alike (1 in 10 chance of guessing right).
It’s unclear whether this test should be considered a measure of Verbal or Performance IQ since the medium is visual but the type of thinking required is more semantic. Either way it nicely complements the Information subest which is arguably the most crystallized subtest on the PAIS, while Pairs is the most fluid. A large Pairs > Information gap is probably indicative of cultural or educational deprivation while a large Information > Pairs gap might suggest schizophrenia, autism, dementia or brain damage though far more research is needed to validate such speculation.
The test is by no means 100% culture fair. You couldn’t give it to a hunter-gatherer. But it’s arguably culture fair enough to give to someone who never attended school, as long as they grew up in a city.
As mentioned, you can take the test here.
LOADED said:
I got a 7! Needed more context in scoring higher!
Lurker said:
core5/16 (31%)
Duration06m:16s
Very good idea but I still think pretty cultural (in terms of what kind of things you tend to think about).
Lurker said:
Score5/16 (31%)
Duration03m:23s
Weird, I took it again and changed some answers. Very difficult for me.
Erichthonius said:
I’m going to unjerk for a minute and say that I also got a 7.
I don’t know if I’d say this is culture free and some of these items seem to be trick questions. For example, both the [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10]>, but neither the [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10]. Seems like a better answer to me.
Also, some of these interpretations are very subjective. Like with number 9 the answer is supposed to be [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10]. I picked the [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10]. What makes your answer better than mine? I like the idea, but it has issues.
pumpkinperson said:
don’t know if I’d say this is culture free and some of these items seem to be trick questions. For example, both the [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10]>, but neither the [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10]. Seems like a better answer to me.
The problem with your answer is three of the five choices fit your answer so it’s not unique to the two you selected.
Also, some of these interpretations are very subjective. Like with number 9 the answer is supposed to be [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10]. I picked the [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10]. What makes your answer better than mine?
I have to admit your answer is just as valid. That’s a flaw in the test.
Teffec P. said:
Some notes (redact as necessary):
It’s a 1 in 10 chance of guessing right (.4 * .25).
Question 9 is inappropriate.
Question 10 I put [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10].
Question 15 neither [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10].
Question 16 I had the right concept, but I selected 3[redacted by pp, 2024-04-10]
Very good idea for a subtest but probably more suitable for 1-on-1 administration that allows for the testee to rationalize their selections. Several of the questions have equally justifiable “right” answers.
pumpkinperson said:
It’s a 1 in 10 chance of guessing right (.4 * .25).
Correct. I was thinking .2 * .25 but you’re right it’s .4 since either part of the pair can be guessed first.
Question 9 is inappropriate.
I can see why you’d say that, but the bigger problem is Melo discovered a valid alternate answer.
Question 10 I put [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10].
You lost me there.
Question 15 neither [redacted by pp, 2024-04-10].
Categorizing things by what they are not is generally not considered valid, but since the test needs revising I may as well fix this too.
Question 16 I had the right concept, but I selected 3[redacted by pp, 2024-04-10]
Brilliant catch! That needs to be fixed ASAP.
Very good idea for a subtest but probably more suitable for 1-on-1 administration that allows for the testee to rationalize their selections.
Yes but that leads to a subjectivity in the scoring that I wish to avoid. But I agree it’s better for one on one testing, especially for low grade people who can just point at their answers instead of having to type numbers in.
Teffec P. said:
For question 10, is that not [redacted by pp, 2023-04-10].
pumpkinperson said:
Come to think of it, it does kind of look like one. Fixed that too. Your feedback has been invaluable. Thank you so much!
LOADED said:
This test would be about associative reasoning
illuminaticatblog said:
Score
5/16 (31%)
Duration10m:23s
LOADED said:
so many of these tests are difficult in dealing with
illuminaticatblog said:
@Pumpkin
I always wondered,
what level of IQ does it take to make an IQ test?
How would the low IQ person(s) understand what to put on the test to test for IQ higher than their own?
By its very nature a problem that cannot be understood by anyone other than high IQ person should not be on the test made by low IQ people.
pumpkinperson said:
I think it depends on the test. If it’s a general knowledge test you don’t have to be smart because the answer can just be looked up. If it’s a performance IQ test you don’t have to be smart because either the puzzle fits together or it doesn’t even if you can’t solve it yourself. But if it’s a test where the correct answer isn’t obvious to everyone who sees it, then yes it helps to be smart. Having said that, the person who created the test is probably going to have a better answer regardless of intelligence because the question was constructed with his answer in mind, so it’s unlikely that a better answer will occur by accident. However as I’ve seen in creating this test, very defendable alternative answers that I did not consider did occur. I wonder if this happened on the Mega Test because although Ron Hoeflin is very smart, he’s never claimed to be Mega level.
illuminaticatblog said:
In simple terms pp,
How can a 130 IQ person make a test item only a 170 IQ person can solve?
or
How can a 90 IQ person make a test item only 130 and above can solve?
pumpkinperson said:
By taking an insight only you have had, and turning it into a question. No matter how smart someone is, I guarantee you’ve had certain insights that would not occur to them. No one has a monopoly on all ideas.
illuminaticatblog said:
My coworker in 2011 who said his IQ was 85 and was my age at that time understood what an atom was. The older lady 50ish at that time did not understand.
Understanding higher order concepts should be part of intelligence?
LOADED said:
PP what else do you want achievements in life or what do you want in continuing in achievement.
pumpkinperson said:
I want to make movies
noMunick1938again said:
This is great, PP👍🏻. Wish you good luck with it!
The Philosopher said:
SO basically you admit you want to be like Harvey Weinstein.
Ankhorknot said:
9/16. Fun test. Thanks for creating and sharing! I overthought some of them.
aronkibly said:
Hey PP. I got a 7 but I realized that I changed one of my answers out of doubt when it was initially correct (basically could’ve been an 8). Should I use the lower score just to be on the safe side?
pumpkinperson said:
Whatever the computer said your score was is your score.
aronkibly said:
Also, are you going to account for subjectivity in answers?
pumpkinperson said:
With the help of reader feedback, I fixed some egregiously subjective items. Hopefully there aren’t many left.
The Philosopher said:
Do you believe Oprah knew about Weinstein or not? Deep down you know she knew.
The day after the NYT broke the story on Weinstein Oprah tried to smokescreen the whole thing and say all men are to blame. Hahaha what a devious clown. Thats jewish jedi mind control shit. I bet it was Weinstein that wrote her statement.
pumpkinperson said:
Do you believe Oprah knew about Weinstein or not? Deep down you know she knew.
There’s no evidence either way, so I have no idea. I imagine he would have been on his best behavior around Lady O, while around people like Quinten and Matt Daimon he might have grabbed some pussy to impress the guys and get a laugh.
The day after the NYT broke the story on Weinstein Oprah tried to smokescreen the whole thing and say all men are to blame. Hahaha what a devious clown. Thats jewish jedi mind control shit. I bet it was Weinstein that wrote her statement.
She’s very crafty; I’m sure she thought of it herself.
The Philosopher said:
Puppy banned me talking about the new Romeo and Juliet because he felt ugly black women need to be over represented in every romantic movie.
The Philosopher said:
And the hollywood black actresses I listed are the best of the best. They literally went through thousands of women to choose these people and they still look so awful.
I bet if you walked through the ghetto, you might even get PTSD looking at some of the women.
pumpkinperson said:
So any thoughts on the Pairs test? Do you think it’s culture fair to most people?
The Philosopher said:
You have a big bold paragraph stating youre still working on it so let me know when you finish all edits and I will take the test.
pumpkinperson said:
I edited that last night. Not sure why your computer still shows it. Anyway, the test is ready. Here’s a link:
https://www.flexiquiz.com/SC/N/pairsrevised
LOADED said:
the tests aren’t very good tbh
Name said:
It is culture fair but the answers are more prone to subjective interpretation.
The Philosopher said:
Puppy kept saying the media and hollywood was the free market and profit driven (libertarian garbage). Glad hes changed his tune and sees what the media really is after my advice.
pumpkinperson said:
So if the government taxed Hollywood at 100% they would still keep producing the same number of big budget movies? Brilliant discovery Pill!
The Philosopher said:
Basically Puppy created the world’s first cognitive autism test by complete accident.
pumpkinperson said:
I did? Cool! So how did you do?
The Philosopher said:
Puppy unlike you I have a real job. I’m not an AA hire. So I they ask me to do real things. I’ll do it tonight.
pumpkinperson said:
I’m not an AA hire you idiot. I have my own consultant company. But as a non-white pure Aryan I’ve had many AA jobs in the past, as have you since you’re legally mentally disabled.
LOADED said:
AA is not a good thing since it emphasizes unpredictability
noMunich1938again said:
“SO basically you admit you want to be like Harvey Weinstein.” Hehe 🙃, this is a good one, no hard feelings, PP😀
pumpkinperson said:
😀
LOADED said:
what’s your social intelligence PP? Do you have autism at all?
if you have autism you’d rely more so on being visual than story telling.
I think I’m an excellent story teller but that’s because I have a high social intelligence.
I think your social intelligence is around my full scale which would be 115-120
LOADED said:
PP how high do you think my social intelligence is? You said my judgment is not great but above average.
I know it’s higher than a lot of people here no doubt because of my lacking in autism!
what components on your tests would go along with the judgment test in creating social intelligence?
noMunich1938again said:
6/16. The idea is good, beautiful design will make the test takers stay focused, but…You completely ignore the categories [redacted by pp, 2024-04-11].
pumpkinperson said:
There’s always going to be multiple right answers. That’s inevitable. But to score high you have to choose the BEST answer.
noMunich1938again said:
Oh PP, with all respect … Even in that sample the wheel and the ball are similar indeed but mainly not because they are round, IMHO Ok, I hope that eventually you will see that all your answers are really best , because they correlate positively with each other and with the result , and , of course, the more intelligent a test taker is the less he straggles for alternative answers 🙂
pumpkinperson said:
Thanks. If there are specific questions where you think there’s an alternative answer that is just as good or better than the “correct” answer let me know
Fraz said:
it’s says the quiz is closed.
pumpkinperson said:
weird? Maybe your computer isn’t refreshing
LOADED said:
I think of myself as being very awkward I think others need accommodation when speaking directly with me.
I just try being my best self though and it works!
Fraz said:
I got 5. Idk, some of those seem highly arguable…
Vegan DHA said:
I got 6/16
The Philosopher said:
Nikki Haley will be president by the end of next year.
austin slater said:
Wow, I did terribly. 7/16.
LOADED said:
isn’t that the highest score?
Teffec P. said:
I got 11 before the corrections were made, but it probably would have been 14. I had to do a CliftonStrengths assessment in school, and Ideation was my greatest.
LOADED said:
yes ideas are important but I’d say that understanding perspectives and experiences is most important.
I believe people are wired in a way that lets them override their circuitry.
some people comprehend really well and some people do!
comprehenders require the doers doing more so than doers require comprehenders
real recognize real it’s so obvious I got ninety nine problems and zero tolerance!
The Philosopher said:
It will be President Nikki Haley and she will order an invasion of Iran the very next day she gets sworn in. Maybe even Syria as well. It will be basically the neocon wet dream.
Name said:
I bet that Trump will win. Care to bet on it?
The Philosopher said:
I platinumed Wo Long. The market seems to be inundated with Souls-like games over the past 2 years. They are enjoyable enough but harder than most games.
LOADED said:
What factors play a role in determining intelligence? I think some people are very intelligent in one way but not so much in any other way so tests make it easy in believing one is superior than they are in reality.
The Philosopher said:
Puppy is excellent in math but dogshit in intuition and imagination. The other day I asked him to imagine what I looked like and he gave an exact description of my avatar….
So if my avatar was a pink llama Puppy would describe me as a pink llama.
pumpkinperson said:
Puppy is excellent in math but dogshit in intuition and imagination.
Most of my teachers and classmates growing up would say I have a great imagination. Maybe not compared to people here though since this is an extremely bright group, especially when you’re not here to drag the average down
The other day I asked him to imagine what I looked like and he gave an exact description of my avatar….
Which shows I’m neurologically efficient. My brain doesn’t waste precious resources creating images when one has already been supplied. You on the other hand do because your brain never pruned away redundant connections like functional brains do.
So if my avatar was a pink llama Puppy would describe me as a pink llama.
Picturing a pink llama commenting on my blog shows even more imagination not less.
Name said:
I think people who are very intelligent in one way and not in other ways have a lopsided brain connectome.
The Philosopher said:
Wheres Melo on Candace Owens. i thought you said you loved blacks. Candace Owens got sacked for criticising Mother israel by the Daily ISr…I mean Daily Wire.
Candace is very brave or very stupid for being so open about the Israel thing. most ‘conservatives’ would never ever dare criticise sending 2 trillion to Israel.
To be a real conservative in Conservative Inc, you need to put a nation of high IQ gypsy people before your own nation.
Erichthonius said:
I’m so ashamed that she decided to spit lies about mother Israel. We’re going to have to take her breeding privileges away.
The Philosopher said:
Puppy is the same in Canada. Israel first. When Trudeau said they would stop sending arms to israel puppy punched the mirror and broke the glass.
pumpkinperson said:
LOL! Your chain of reasoning is so hilariously bizarre. Because I’m not racist I must be brainwashed by Zionists and thus racist against Palestinians. Too bad you wont share your Pairs score so we could get scientific data on how you make associations.
The Philosopher said:
Youre totally brainwashed. You are HBD aware through the narrow prism of psychometrics but then revert to basically the same talking points as the NYT/CNN on blacks, jews, and immigration.
pumpkinperson said:
Your autism is so severe it never occurs to you that a) I might be overcompensating for my politically incorrect blog and b) as a non-white second generation immigrant, I might have a different incentive structure than a supposedly white man like you. This is completely obvious to anyone with basic imagination but you are disabled when it comes to imagining the World from the perspective of others. If it weren’t for immigration, I literally would not exist because my parents would never have met so forgive me for not being the raging racist psycho that you are. The fact that despite being a non-white immigrant, I’m still hyper-aware of HBD and the JQ shows I’m at a level of sophistication that is way beyond you and yours.
noMunich1938again said:
Ok, lets do it.[redacted by pp, 2024-04-13].
noMunich1938again said:
PP, this is confusing, because I don’t want you to feel frustrated. But I have to say that after some thinking, I probably can see what you are doing. You, very likely , take old WISCs or WAIses , their similarity subtests , or something from tests by other authors, where words (or pictures?) were presented in pairs, and you somehow think that those logical relationships within that pairs, beautiful by themselves , are miraculously set forever on, regardless . To my mind, it’s just not the case. if you ask a person in what [redacted by pp, 2024-04-13] are alike, he has to say that it is [redacted by pp. 2024-04-13], but if you put another part of a [redacted by pp, 2024-04-13], the scene has change . This is only one example
pumpkinperson said:
Yes it’s like a Similarities test but with the language component removed so it could be given to Australian aboriginals or used to compare verbal type reasoning in people who speak different languages like Americans and Japanese or so someone like Michael Myers could be tested. So instead of having people explain how two things are alike, they could show they saw the connection by pointing out which two are alike.
But I understand that by allowing people to select the associated items from five different choices, I may introduce many unintended associations that are equally valid. While this did happen sometimes (causing me to revise the test) most of the unintended associations people find are indeed “wrong” and that’s because it’s just unlikely that an association that was created by accident is going to be as precise and meaningful as an intended association.
And so I looked at all your answers which I redacted from the other comment, I while agree that your answers to items 5,7, and 8 were valid, you invoked categories that were broader than the category invoked by the intended answer, and thus were less conceptually precise.
Your answer for number 9 was based on a closeness you described but you never specified a category so that was hard to judge.
Your answer to 12 was a bit of a stretch. Your answer to 14 could not really agree on what the category was.
Your answer to 15 was creative but based on a similarity that just happens to be true rather than something fundamental.
Your answer to 16 might be be considered superior to my answer, but it’s so esoteric I feel I can continue to score it wrong without damaging the test’s validity.
But I actually find it more interesting when we can’t agree on the right answer because it raises philosophical questions about how to decide. I suppose a psychometrician would say the right answer is the one that correlates best with the overall score.
And btw, even traditional similarities item have ambiguous scoring. When I took the WISC-R as a kid the hardest question asked how two substances were alike and I said they were alike because they both dominated 80% of the earth’s surface but I was scored 0 because the “right” answer required me to state what TYPE of substances they were. My answer was similar to your answer to #15 in that we both grouped things by where they might be found. To this day I kind of think my answer was better.
no Munich1938again said:
Poor Lady in sari with WISC…. “I am Pumpkin and I wanna playyyyy” 🙂 🙂
austin slater said:
I think PP is basically right about the Israel Lobby functioning like a beehive. Like a hive, it’s full of different types and classes of people of varying levels of influence, each with its own specialty.
The “Queens” (i.e., Bibi, the ADL, AIPAC) are the most powerful and collectively set the high level tone and marching orders.
The “Workers” (i.e., journalists, new media types like Ben Shapiro, pro-Israel members of the Deep State, etc.) then implement the marching orders of their respective Queen. Note that workers take orders from different Queens. A Worker like Ben Shapiro pays close attention to Bibi and AIPAC, while a NYT op-ed columnist Worker like Paul Krugman does the ADL’s legwork. Although the different Workers often disagree with each other about what’s best for Israel (not to mention the U.S. more broadly), they all agree that anyone who threatens U.S. support for Israel should be swarmed and attacked. This is why you see both left- and right-wing Jews attack someone like Ilhan Omar when she steps out of line by criticizing Jewish money in American politics.
I guess the “Drones” are the elected representatives in government who vote to maintain the status quo.
The Philosopher said:
Its a lot more coordinated than that. The boss of the ADL speaks with the boss of the NYT, AIPAC and the Deep state. They may occasionally have formal get togethers to plan policy. Almost certainly they talk to the government necons like Abrams and Victoria Nuland about what to do with Hamas or Iran and so on.
Jimmy went even further than me and said the ‘left wing’ jews like Krugman will have fake debates with ‘right wing’ jews like Shapiro. Its all theatre basically. I don’t believe that personally but there are some who believe all the ‘debates’ in the media around domestic policies are theatre.
The black pill is that jews don’t have any ideology other than Zionism.
Council of Foreign Relations is another key org. The whole board is jewish. It was set up by the gentile aristocracy 70 years ago to decide foreign policy but its now completley ashkenazim.
austin slater said:
I don’t think we disagree on that much. I have no doubt that a lot of the major actors talk to and coordinate with each other. I just think that the coordination tends to be more about establishing high-level agreement on a handful of issues/objectives than about establishing a detailed game plan that everyone rigidly follows.
The left/right debates are fake in the sense that they don’t offer an attractive choice to free-thinking people. Jewish influence (and the influence of liberals in general) has produced a stifling etiquette that prohibits honest discussion about a litany of important issues, of which Israel is only one. The result is being stuck with a political Left and Right whose positions on these subjects have little basis in reality (and pose zero threat to the status quo).
pumpkinperson said:
No you don’t disagree that much. Your analysis is the same as Pill’s except with much more intelligence and much less autism.
The Philosopher said:
I think jews do disagree on domestic policies sometimes. Not on things like deregulating Wall Street, obviously they want banker liberation.
I mean things like abortion, guns, drug war, socialist policies, environment, civil liberties, education and so on.
I do think Krugman and other left wing jews like Bernie and Marianne Williamson genuinely disagree on economics with right wing elites like Schwarzmann and Druckenmiller. I remember in Schwarzmanns book he said Rahm Emmanual, Obama’s chaperone, confronted him in private about being a republican donor and pushing extreme right wing economics. So I disagree with Jimmy there. See puppy I’m not as extreme as you think.
On foreign policy you will even see some disagreement e.g. The Iran Deal. Robert Rubin contradicted Chuck Schumer and the neocons on that.
illuminaticatblog said:
pill is stupid
fox news keeps saying socialism is bad and they are right wing
it is because pill is european that he don’t understand US politics
everyone who is extreme right hates socialism in the US
socialist want to turn yur kids trans n sheet, pill is retarded
illuminaticatblog said:
pill is aso pro-deepstate because he don’t give a shit
in the US if you are anti-deepstate you hate the government because they are the same thing but pill thinks you can separate the two because he is an imbecile.
illuminaticatblog said:
moron pill does not recognize that in the US soicialism = deepstate
why you think people don’t like government, moron pill?
Lurker said:
IMO Ashkenazi Jews aren’t necessarily super-intelligent in the sense of being able to simply absorb information or ideas faster than others, but they are very “education-oriented” and very liberal, so that would explain their ability to be slightly higher IQ, and be verbally tilted as well. It seems like spatial intelligence is relatively higher in races that aren’t education and studying oriented in a civilizational sense… so for example, Inuits might be pretty spatially acute but being great at understanding complex societal rules or incorporating knowledge from a vast array of written knowledge was not beneficial for them, so they are not geared towards the “verbal”.
East Asians and Europeans seem to be more balanced as well, which might be explained by them both being necessarily modern societally-adapted and capable of incorporating ancestral and contemporary written knowledge (verbal), but not being relegated to depend on such roles to gain a relative advantage as Ashkenazis were, with their need to adapt to outsider societies and also work in mercantile fields, backed up by their religious teachings of insider knowledge/practice vs. outsiders (Goyim). Also, Europeans/East Asians adapted to society but also created it. Therefore, it would make sense that their average intelligence wasn’t too tilted towards verbal or spatial (as they are also the ambient measurement everyone else is compared to)
Anyway, I think a big part of the conspiracy rests in the fact that while Ashkenazis do have cognitive advantages, they also seem to tend to want to monopolize. It’s almost like their cognitive advantage is tied to a competitiveness. They study more because they want to win, and because they want that power, they continue to study and are legitimately knowledgeable, but also, being imperfect humans, and perhaps because of some associated dark triad traits with liberalism or competitiveness, they tend to conspiracize, monopolize, blackmail, manipulate, etc. more than others.