In light of all this discussion about the soul, I thought this interview with Robert Sapolsky was relevant. Sapolsky is a fierce opponent of free will which he defines as a behavior that has just occurred, completely independently of the brain’s history (including genetic history).
Actually, as James Flynn has hinted, the closest science has come to proving Sapolsky’s definition of free will is “non-shared environment” which psycholgists define as the correlation between identical twins raised together subtracted from the correlation between the same person measured twice on some phenotype. Since that former correlation measures both genes and the only environment you were raised in, the fact that it’s still less than the correlation you have with yourself implies there is something about you that transcends both your seed and the garden you were planted in.
Of course Sapolsky would scoff at the idea of calling this free will, as there are all kinds of environmental affects independent of the family you were raised in such as peer groups, that special teacher who inspired you, the media etc. Indeed Jensen argued that shared environment was a great many mico-biological effects like getting punched in the head in the playground to getting less oxygen in the womb. However until non-shared environment can be explained, it continues to be described as “luck” and luck is just unexplained variance. What’s interesting is that while shared environment goes from about 40% of the variance to zero as we move from childhood to later adulthood when it comes to IQ, non-shared environment stays at 20% across the life-span which as Flynn noted, is exactly what you’d expect from “luck”.
Speaking of IQ, our very own Anime (aka Illumanaticatblog) had some random thoughts on the WAIS he wanted to share:

Just ban Anime. He’s basically a very extreme severely autistic person that writes like a chatbot. He doesn’t actually understand anything he says. Its just memorisation.
why do you always make stuff up! Anime and I are more adjusted than you you’re on a smear campaign against credible people and you’ll get what you deserve!
Yea it’s just word salad.
everything he says makes sense to non-retarded people. pill and rr need to be banned for being mean and retarded. also peepee needs to be banned for not allowing my comments about gay action figures.
Yeah most of what animekitty said here actually made a lot of sense. Whether it’s enlightening or can be applied to a coherent theory is different I guess.
Also, should illegal migrants get sanctuary in more liberal states that make fun of the more conservative ones for backwards or prole, such as Canada does to the US? Just wondering. We could kill two birds with one stone!
Not saying they aren’t useful observations though, it just takes time to think about them.
It’s a strange day when Philo and RR agree with each other. Even stranger when Me, Lurker, and Muggsy agree with each other.
https://keithwoods.pub/p/is-ireland-a-low-iq-country
What do you think about this article Philo?
Have you ever said to someone “That’s your fault?”
“What’s interesting is that while shared environment goes from about 40% of the variance to zero as we move from childhood to later adulthood when it comes to IQ, non-shared environment stays at 20%”
This is from twin studies right?
Yes and I’m aware you think they’re meaningless.
somewhat!
Assortative mating is an interesting subject! I would posit that artists are more likely 2 assortatively mate than other fields but that’s just my theory!
I think that a lot of people are just trying 2 find a mate that is compatible with them on a superficial level!
it would be interesting 2 see the trends in mating habits since the sexual revolution!
obviously there’s a lot of trends that led 2 the current modern system b4 selecting your own mate was prominent because arranged marriages or marriages 4 money was fundamental 2 the survival back then!
You could also have souls without free will. That’s the position of about half the religious people in history. Attempting to prove materialism by ruling out free will is…again…philosophically illiterate.
I had this dream last night that I was playing a new video game.
Anyways, Im playing Like a Dragon Ishin right now and its fucking great. What a game. These japanese know how to make great great games.
GOP lawmaker snaps at Trump after having to get ex-president’s approval on legislation (msn.com)
I don’t think theres been a president since maybe FDR that had total and complete control of his party. I burst out laughing when it said trump controls the party and hes not even an elected official.
Well in the old days the donors controlled the republicans. Mostly jews and gentile assholes like the Kochs. But the donors tried so hard to make Nikki Haley win and they failed.
Trump restored my faith in american democracy.
Honest question puppy. If OPrah walked into the ghetto…what would happen? Social IQ question.
She’d mostly be mobbed by people asking her to take selfies with them but the occasional schizo crackhead might yell obscenities at her and the occasional grafter/thug might try to charm or intimidate her into giving them money.
If Trump walked into the ghetto what would happen social IQ question.
Trump would get some people asking for selfies or money, thugs trying to intimidate him for money and a ton of hecklers screaming at hi to get lost.
wrong! the thugs would say “he a gangsta n shit. dat man is ahrite.”
Blacks loved Trump before he ran for President. But after 8 years of being told how racist he is, not so much, though getting arrested may have got him a bit of street cred.
sapolsky’s appearance means everything he says can be dismissed? why? social IQ question.
that is, what specifically about sapolsky’s appearance means everything he says can be dismissed? super-duper social IQ question.
This is probably not what you’re looking for but his appearance is bad suggesting low social IQ and thus limited credibility on how the mind works.
In my opinion we do have free will in the sense that we do what we intend to do. Yes our intention has environmental and genetic causes(duh!)but none of those causes themselves had intention and thus agency starts with us; unless you’re religious or believe a strong version of pill’s theory that (autistic) people were consciously breeded by elites to be servile.
looking for:
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2. he has a beard which is more than being lazy about shaving.
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3. he has long hippie hair
OMG you’re right! LOL!
That actually is a good IQ question but perhaps not for the Comprehension subtest, but for Picture Completion.
“What’s missing from this picture?” (the dye in his beard).
Surprisingly low Picture Completion is more of a sign of autism than low Comprehension.
long hair and beard are Cynical in the sense that primitive humans may’ve found regular barbery inconvenient.
but UN-Cynical in that long hair and beard are totally impractical … today they are the same level as tattoos or designer clothes or clothes with writing or symbols … all very UN-Cynical.
@pp
That notion of agency at least to me sounds redundant and compatibalism tier in term of copium.
Beards are an extremely hipster thing in London. Even the football pundits started growing beards during the hipster era.
Long hair less so. Its not popular these days. You get some hipsters like RR doing man buns though lol. Looks terrible.
RR’s not a hipster you moron. You lack the social intelligence to even know what a hipster is.
“today [long hair and beards] are the same level as tattoos or designer clothes or clothes with writing or symbols”
Nah. Found the bald guy who can’t grow a beard. Don’t worry man, finasteride and minoxidil exist.
Why is TP comparing London to America? See TP, the thing about long hair is that you can do a lot of things with it. I don’t even wear the man bun a lot.
what is it about the way oprah looks that means everything she says should be dismissed? super-duper to the power of sadly IQ question.
This guy Mark Dice doing these alt right videos on youtube. If he keeps doing this he will be treated like Kanye. Mark even mentions the high IQ gypsy ruling class a fair amount.
Also I was wrong about Nikky Haley. Her major donors in New York are 99% jewish – Kravis, Druckenmiller, the apollo/mossad people, and so on. But its also true the Koch brothers gave $100m to her and hes gentile so far as I know.
in another comment you listed druckenmiller as a gentile.
now can i post my gay action figure pictures and videos?
Yeah I thought he was a gentile. Then if you read his wiki profile it mentions is passing hes actually a jew. Worked for Soros so makes sense.
Worked for you too.
pill personality is lying. ban him immediately and forever.
maybe your edit didn’t hold. i checked beforehand anyway.
you’re liar and must be banned forever.
sad.
So puppy says a poll says blacks love Oprah.
My social intelligence says most black thugs would beat up Oprah.
One of us is wrong…time to call Marsha.
quine was an anal philosopher and autistic as usual but his explanation of “free will” is very good. chomsky also believes in free will. but he says it appears to be impossible (to some) only because there are things humans don’t yet or can never understand. sapolsky lacks such humility. in other words chomsky says he knows there is free ill because he experiences it directly and its apparent contradiction of the mechanical universe theory is just another example of things humans don’t yet or can never understand.
We have free will in that we do what we want but Sapolsky might say that since we don’t choose what we want, it’s not true free will. By his definition the only thing that can have free will is God (which he doesn’t believe in either) because God is the only fully self-made being.
free will can happen if everyone has free will then no free will would be obstructed!
if one individual were 2 not have free will and everyone else did the lack of free will with that individual would determine the ridiculousness of the sentiment and thus reduce free will 2 absolute nothingness!
recall soros’s other protege was an alabama man, jim rogers.
druckenmiller is a very unjewish acting jew if he is a jew.
and remember jews will call people jews who aren’t jews. i know this from chess. jews claimed smyslov and spassky were part jewish. they weren’t.
Yeah Soros has worked with gentiles in the past seeding their funds. Rogers talks a lot of bullshit. Looking back I can’t believe I listened to the guy.
I also observed the same thing about Druckenmiller. He doesn’t have the classic jewish personality.
The classic jewish personality is Howard Stern.
I will comment on the free will video soon but in the meantime I want to post this chart on alignment of people on the blog:
this is the thanks i get?
sad!
from now on it’s just gonna be gay action figures.
this is the thanks i get?
LOL
I like emo.
mug be so emo
Avril Lavigne – Hello Kitty (Official Video)
This be my dog becky
she has red hair too
Becky is from ooz-becky-stan
In concurrence with what anime said: I think adding more subtests that don’t simply cover the grounds covered by the existing ones is one possible improvement to IQ tests.
Regarding free will: I believe people have wills, but I do not think there is anyone on this planet with a truly free will.
In finance. If you did a ‘hall of fame’. About 80% of it would be ashkenazi jew. The only guy that seems to outperform jews is Warren Buffet, who himself was trained by a jew who Buffet claimed had a ‘200 IQ’ i.e. Benjamin Graham.
Its interesting in business jews have such an affinity with finance rather than heavy industry, professional services or even tech.
Maybe you could say law and media businesses are also dominated to some extent by jews though. But they only get involved in those businesses not to make money but to do political things. The original purpose of jews back in the day reading law was to get jews the same rights as gentiles.
But they only get involved in those businesses not to make money but to do political things
HAHAHA! Imagine being socially retarded enough to think Jews don’t care about money. Next Pill will tell us they don’t care about Israel either. If this useful idiot did not already exist Mossad would have to invent him.
Sadly Puppy failed the social IQ test. He incorrectly predicted that blacks would celebrate Oprah if she walked into the ghetto.
I can think of hospital A & E being a more likely destination after a ghetto visit than a street party.
Yes I failed the social IQ test because I disagree with your imaginary outcome of an event that never happened. Great scientific research!
As Jimmy, Melo, Loaded, and not one, but two of your own psychiatrists have noted, you’re socially impaired. All you do is bash underdogs like blacks, women, fat people, gays, autists, while praising the genius of Jewish Wallstreet and inherited wealth like Donald Trump.
You definitely passed both “social IQ tests.” Black people LOVE Oprah. Anyone who has spent time with black people knows this. More black men like Trump than most Liberals would be comfortable admitting, but as a whole, blacks don’t like him.
Yeah Pill shows bizarre social reasoning. For example we all know women like guys who act manly and will defend their honor, maybe punch another guy out if the situation calls for it.
But Pill thinks women are attracted to guys who smash other guys over the head with beer bottles. Afro and I tried to explain to him that such extreme depravity would be more likely to scare a woman than turn her on but he just doubles down with 100% confidence.
as usual all personalities are wrong. sad.
only a small minority of women would have this reaction.
She was turned on by the gun and possibly by him beating the other guy up, but he beat the other guy up with his fist not smashing a beer bottle over the head.
Next Pill will argue that women are attracted to Leatherface.
Serious question: Why is your taste in movies so prole? Italian gangster movies from the 1980s? You talking to me? You think I’m funny, you mean like a clown?
Mug of Pee’s idea of classic cinema:
Meanwhile Pumpkin Person watches sophisticated Armenian directed Canadian art house films like THE SWEET HEREAFTER which Mug of Pee couldn’t appreciate if his life depended on it:
Mug of Pee’s idea of classic cinema
correct! that is THE great scene from THE great movie of the last 34 years.
it’s REAL LIFE HORROR peepee. that’s the way the real life tommy was supposedly.
it’s HORRIFYING!
THAT’S THE POINT!
AS SISKEL AND EBERT INTER ALIA POINTED OUT: GOODFELLAS IS THE BEST MOVIE ABOUT GANGSTERS BECAUSE IT’S THE MOST REALISTIC AND NOT GLAMOROUS. YOU’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE ANY OF THE CHARACTERS.
NOW GET YOUR SHINEBOX AND FIX YOUR FUCKING BLOG!
But jews help each other a lot in finance to an extreme degree. Soros couldn’t get a job until he wrote to a jewish brokerage. All the PE guys come in together on deals and lend to each other to prop each other up. In banking its a bit different though.
But basically if you went to Goldman Sachs in the 80s and 90s and said you were a jew you basically got an elite job.
History of jews in finance begins from loan sharking. What i never understood is how jews enforced bad debts on gentiles in the middle ages. What if people refused to pay? It would look really bad for jews to punish them. Shakespeare wrote a play called the Merchant of Venice on a gentile stiffing a jew on a debt and then using sophistry in court to get out of it. The play portrays the gentile as the hero.
Why didn’t gentiles just take the money and beat the crap out of jews.
Gentiles are too nice maybe.
Yes whites are EXTREMELY nice. My white mother could have had almost any man she wanted but chose to marry a nerdy 90 lb immigrant because he was the nicest man she had ever met.
My mother is a saint!
The nerdy white guy who got me my promotion is so nice that when a stray cat wandered to his backyard, he welcomed it into his family with the other cats. I knew right then and there he was a good person.
whites can be nice only when agreeable! If you find a disagreeable white person they’re the meanest people you will ever meet!
I took in a stray 13 years ago. She ended up having 3 kitties. (Still have mommy.)
”Why didn’t gentiles just take the money and beat the crap out of jews.”
Er….they did.
They did, but sporadically and with inadequate thoroughness.
Ironically, it was Christianity which saved the Jews from being systematically plundered and brutalized. Early in its long history the Church ruled that while the Jew could not be a citizen of the imperium, he was nonetheless a human being and could not be maimed, robbed, or killed without good reason.
I listened to the interview.
He is wrong about quantum mechanics.
The future is not predetermined by the past, that is not how physics works.
The only constant is the conservation of energy but not where the energy will go in an absolutely determined path.
What happens is the consciousness looks into the future and then determines which future will be chosen.
Free will is built in from the beginning because no future, absolutely no future was absolutely going to happen.
First of all, One future of the infinite future was chosen, and then the sub-choices began to emerge. These choices were atemporal meaning they came from both the past and the future.
Have you seen the discussion between Kevin Mitchell and Sapolsky? I disagree with Mitchell on a fair few things in this discussion, but I do think he is right.
https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/determined-robert-sapolsky-free-agents-kevin-j-mitchell-book-review-philip-ball/
https://nautil.us/yes-we-have-free-will-no-we-absolutely-do-not-431904/
http://www.wiringthebrain.com/2023/12/undetermined-response-to-robert.html?m=1
rr doesn’t unnuhstan how his hairstyle is UN-Cynical like tattoos, make-up, jewelry, marked clothing, overpriced clothing, afro’s medallion, etc.. yet he has to use beard oil to keep the skin under his beard from drying out and itching and he shaves the corners of his head yet not his whole head and face.
the point is rr’s hairstyle has no utility, use value, practical value. now one can buy razors and hair clippers very cheaply. no need to pay a barber.
i’m not bald and i’ve never tried to grow a furry animal on my face. but i know after a few days of not shaving i can’t stand it and kill it before it takes over my face.
grizzly adams may’ve had an excuse. rr doesn’t.
GS partner london young of steve shoe comment fame was a fan of The Wire.
peepee: well that’s not prole because it’s about black criminals not wypipo criminals.
mugabe: PROLE!
directors’ poll Goodfellas #28. only one english language movie i’ve never seen was ranked higher at #22.
critics’ poll Goodfellas #63. three movies i haven’t seen and were all obviously selected for POLITICAL reasons.
https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/greatest-films-all-time
i have taste. you don’t. and you never will. sad.
you don’t even have good taste in horror movies. by far the best ever is The Exorcist. it was nominated for best picture. it was re-released in theaters. it had an extra who was an actual serial killer paul bateson. its music is the best.
I’m not saying it’s not a good movie, it’s well acted, well directed and well written.
But it’s prole in that proles LOVE it; especially proles over 50.
I overhear them when I go to bars in the less exclusive parts of town “you talking to me? I’m funny, you mean like a clown”
Of course critics love it too but when I look at rotten tomatoes I see that 94% of critics like it, but 97% of the audience likes it:
94/97(100) = 97 sophistication quotient
By contrast 86% of audiences liked The Sweet Hereafter but 98% of critics did so
98/86 = 114 sophistication quotient
The Last Jedi: 91/42 = 216 sophistication quotient
sad.
In all respect pp it did not follow any line of the hero’s journey at all and ruined the entire franchise.
mugabe is winning
read my comment peepee IT’S MUCH HIGHER RANKED BY DIRECTORS!
are directors more prole than critics?
ONLY A PROLE SAYS “OOO! PROLES LIKE THAT, SO IT MUST BE BAD!”
you still can’t name the other prole movies on my top 10 list. because there aren’t any. yet my taste in movies is “so prole”.
you can’t even do basic first order logic.
sad.
there exists a movie mugabe posted a famous clip from which proles like therefore mugabe’s taste in movies is prole.
^^^peepee no Y-chromosome having UN-logic^^^
Liking only movies that are 40 years old is prole. Mug of Pee reminds me of the prole woman who thinks she’s upper class because she’s reading a book, not knowing that she’s being laughed at for not reading a kindle. Citing Good Fellows when you could be citing The Sopranos is like reading a book instead of a kindle. Notice how Mug of Pee has never watched HBO, has never seen Six Feet Under, has never mentioned a single work of art that is even remotely intellectually challenging.
proles are just sentimental white people! Sentimentality comes from looking at the past! Conservatards are this way!
liberals are future oriented!
This is such a weird argument to have. Who actually gives a fuck who’s more prole than who? You’re both equally pretentious.
once again peepee shows her idea of prole is prole.
kindles are prole.
liking new movies is prole.
sad.
peepee just digs her hole deeper every time.
sad.
There’s nothing less prole than walking into a coffee shop with a small elegant kindle,
I liked A Bronx Tale better.
I agree PP and Mug are pretentious but Melo if you don’t think you’re the MOST pretentious your self awareness might be really low and your pretentiousness higher than I thought!
i almost forgot peepee has no memory.
only one english language movie i’ve never seen was ranked higher at #22.
means only one english language movie released after Goodfellas (which) i’ve never seen was ranked higher at #22.
“sophistication quotient”
The Last Jedi would be good as a stand alone movie but it ruined the other two movies. The last jedi should be the last of the three movies not the second movie because the third movie needed shit put in (palpatine) to make it plausible but not a good film.
Judging a movie by how well it fits into a franchise instead of on its own merits is prole
Lego Movie 2014
96/86 = 111 sophistication quotient
best prole movie ever
about how the workers overcomes lord business with love
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_lego_movie
because all movies are PROLE mugabe hasn’t seen many, but the only movies he’d promote which aren’t esteemed among the very best still have very high ratings and are NOT prole.
these are American Gigolo and The Right Stuff and The Blues Brothers.
that errol morris’s first documentary Gates of Heaven is one of the greatest movies ever made is something only ebert and i agree on it seems. he ranked it third in 1981, so he changed his mind and up-ed it. siskel ranked it fifth. both agreed American gicolo was one of the best of 1980.
26: Copacabana
“Goodfellas” (1990)
of the 100 best scenes in movies ever.
YES!
THAT!
is great cinema!
https://www.watchmojo.com/articles/top-100-movie-scenes-of-all-time
that was actually a different scene which is famous for its technical difficulty. it was parodied in Family Guy.
i guess they had to have only one from THE movie of the last 34 years and THE best gangster movie ever made.
the POINT of the movie is very non-prole, unlike other gangster movies:
being a gangster is NOT something anyone should wanna be and gangsters are often “NOT nice” people.
pesci won best supporting actor for THAT scene!
SOAR-ee (phonetic spelling of canadian mispronunciation of “sorry”) …
Taxi Driver was ranked higher by critics NOT by directors.
i never liked scorsese’s movies. he just seems like a very energetic/manic guy who is obsessed with movies. he doesn’t have the talent of coppola.
but coppola’s best is Apocalypse, not the gangster movies. that’s in my top 5 ever.
i’ve said this many times but peepee was born without a memory sadly.
peepee’s prole idea of who bill gates et al are is funny.
she thinks they’re just doin’ their high IQ thing which is only interrupted by proles.
WRONG!
bill gates will rip your head off and shit down the stump.
if you cross bill gates’s border it’s a horror movie for real.
for more see what germany did 1941-45.
it was the most and best educated country on earth ever.
it’s like victor bout vs max boot.
sad.
American Gigolo 73/50
The Right Stuff 96/90
The Blues Brothers 72/92
Gates of Heaven 90/81
so only The Blues Brothers is prole according to peepee.
Seems like a lot of capable people have the letter ‘o’ in their name, be it in their first name, middle name or last name.
Ancient great or super achieving people might have had ‘o’ in their names too…we dont know a lot of their full names.
I was in a hurry that is why i didn’t post examples yesterday when i posted this comment. But i thought you guys may have figured it out.
Anyway, here are some examples: Napolean Bonaparte, George Washington, Both Roosevelts, Lincoln, Hoover, Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, Leo tolstoy, Even joseph stalin, adolf hitler, and mao (i didnt say great people i said super achievers), Elon musk, Mark Elliot Zuckerberg, Steve jobs etc
“Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people”
-Eleanor Roosevelt
it was first said by Socrates actually and all the ideas that come from you Name are ineligible in worth when compared 2 anyone else who makes contributions here!
your comments are just vast generalizations about things you should be specific in what you have 2 say!
and you repeat things that are not yours and take credit 4 it lack of originality and creativity on your part!
anyways ideas are formed by people and can’t be separated from their originators meaning people!
this is why this quote holds little value!
I thought some screws were loose in your head but seems like most of them are. Heck your head doesn’t have any screws at all. Or one might even say you don’t have a head at all.
yeah and some screws in your head are bolted 2 tight! Either way your writings are not good imo!
see?
no your writings still are subpar!
see again?
No you’re just being a smartass again
Stop embarrassing yourself lol! You are proving my point over and over.
there’s no point there you’re delusional!
You will never stop embarassing yourself? Okay fine have it your way…
free will idiot
this blog isn’t about who is smartest or most intelligent but who can shout their opinions the loudest!
some things written here seem good in the moment or in the general short term but are terrible in the long term and vice versa!
this blog is like a game of chess at the end of the day!
a lot of strategy is required 2 see who will come on top and why!
social adjustability is very important 2 winning in life but many of you lack that!
2 return your rate of investment and turn it into wins is a key indicator of social standing and ability!
therefore you have 2 maximize the amount of energy you dedicate 2 things!
in the end though the biggest step 2 this is not being neurotic and being time oriented!
time management and emotional regulation are important 2 managing and regulating anything!
consider that the next time you try 2 accomplish your missions!
I disagree with nearly everything that Wittgenstein and his logical positivist fanboys ever wrote, but ‘free will’ is a linguistic pseudo-problem.
Conscious beings make choices. Are those choices causally determined? Of course they are, and in that sense, they are trivially unfree.
The question is whether my decisions and judgments are determined by forces external to my person. The answer is: no, and anyone who claims otherwise merely wishes to excuse his own moral shortcomings.