So I’ve once again decided to turn to the mail bag, from which I got the following email:
I am nearly 50 of English and German descent. A Puerto Rican woman of 36 wishes to have my child; she has a lovely heart and I am considering the situation. I discovered that she receives Social Security payments for a learning disability. This surely means she scored below 70 on an IQ test, and her life history would indicate low general intelligence.
She left school around grade 10 and informed me that she largely taught herself to read. She is able to read and write, but I notice that she uses phone voice commands and prefers to seek solutions via YouTube rather than reference articles. I have seen her complete forms and other similar materials; she has had a job as a notary (to be sure there are many types of notary scenarios, I doubt she would be able to cover them all). She has zero awareness of politics and I am quite certain little knowledge of world history and even basic geography. She has been employed but I think her few jobs have come and gone because she experiences frustration; but there is not enough data to make concrete observations (to be sure she did very well at her last job where she needed to work fast and work with the computer interface). She becomes very jealous of other women interacting with me, even in a professional context; I assume this could be related to low intellectual functioning and an internal need for resource protection. Her brother is highly dysfunctional, her mother allowed an abuser to live in her childhood home (infer as you may), and her romantic partners have all been dysfunctional. She has five children, none of whom are in her custody, but she is trying to regain co-parenting with two (however, her rate of accomplishment on that front is slow. Under circumstances that most of us cannot relate, she fell into benzodiazepine addiction, which pretty much sent it all tumbling, prior to that she had one man in her life since High School. All of this sounds bad, and it is bad, but this woman has a lovely heart and survived a lot of childhood trauma (on a plus, she has made a few witty jokes). Needless to say she is looking for a man to care for her; this is bad on the one hand, but for a man my age, it’s better than a fat boss bitch. She has also made a few dinners that require independent functioning and the proper array of timings (not easy, so no sign of a true sub-70 IQ. One thought: it is possible that she is dim, but not a true sub-70 IQ and her parents simply gamed the system for cash but I don’t know when benefits began paying: Disability Benefits for Low IQ | Nolo). She is able to take animals to the vet, go shopping, and do tasks independently. However, she is largely incapable of planning ahead – (gets a job and gets a massive car payment).
Regarding me, I have no kids and am very intelligent. I am not sure how high is my IQ, but my profitable young company is very sophisticate and there is a good chance it can spiral quite well. Let’s say that I have an IQ of 130 and the woman has an IQ of either 70 or 85. What would be the likely IQ range for our child? I do not want to introduce a child into the world with an IQ lower than 112. I recall reading that more genes for intelligence are coded with the mother’s DNA; I don’t know if that is accurate. I also read on r/hapas that Asian men/white female couples produce more amazing children than the opposite pairing, so that would indicate may men play a larger genetic role; or maybe it’s just that more outstanding Asian men get white females and lower white men get Asian women. One thing I can say is that her sister used a sperm bank and chose a South Asian donor and she reports her nephew is super bright. I want to make this woman happy, she has historical issues, but those don’t bother me. It is surely an adaptation to partner with someone possessing a lesser intellect, but I have the web and my work for intellectual discourse; what I don’t have is fun. I see a lot of smart people in miserable situations with unfun wives who get fat and bitch. I am guessing regression to the mean would be from the Puerto Rican average and not from her score because low IQ could result from gestational insult (although her dim brother is cause for concern). My father is 99% percentile ASVAB and my mother graduated from a top 15 law school. My aunts and uncles are mostly very bright (lawyers, Colonels, Doctors, but then the oddball).
Any insights into what I could use to make a general assessment of her intelligence? I am wondering if there is a 10 question exam that is highly g-correlated. I could then slip a few questions here and there. This all sounds terrible, but I just don’t want to burden a child should they not be bright enough to make it in the coming world.
Tough question. My guess is that she’s just using you for your money so I would not even move in with her, let alone father her kids, because depending on the laws in your state, she might be able to claim half your wealth, especially since she’s considered disabled.
I share your skepticism over whether she even is. Another possibility is that she outgrew her impairment. Because the long-term stability of IQ might be as low as 0.7, people who test in the mentally retarded range in childhood or even age 18 should typically regress up (progress) to their population mean in later adulthood assuming they’re not segregated.
As for the IQ of any children you might have, as far as I know the father’s IQ and the mother’s IQ both correlation 0.45 with the offspring’s IQ. However because the IQs of father’s and mother’s correlate 0.45 with one another, the independent effect of both is reduced:
0.31(dad’s Z score) + 0.31(mom’s Z score)
Let’s say you’re about +2 standard deviations (SDs) for a white male, and she’s -1 SD for a Puerto Rican female. Then your kids would be expected to be:
0.31(+2 SD) + 0.31(-1 SD) = 0.62 SD – 0.31 SD = +0.31 SD = +5 IQ points above the mix of both ethnic groups.
Now the average white American has an IQ of 103 (U.S. norms) and the average Puerto Rican is 15% Native American (IQ 91) , 21% pure black (IQ 83) and 64% white (IQ 103), so in theory there IQs should average IQ 97 (they actually average 90); thus the offspring of white and Puerto Rican couples should average exactly at the U.S. mean defined as 100 (could have saved myself a lot of time by ignoring race and just treating you both as just Americans)
Thus your kids should average about 5 points above this mean so IQ 105 on average (but there’s a lot of error around this estimate) . As for a quick test, for measuring your wife, I would use the PATMA. In my limited experience, it gives results within 10 points of the person’s true IQ.
I do not think there is anything extremely fatal to getting into a relationship with the person who wrote the letter about the 36 yo female because IQ is generally not at all indicated by factors such as impulsivity or poor social class.
What matters is whether you can get along. A damaged person automatically has handicaps but this is not what will determine the status of a child’s life. It is whether that child can be taught to be independent and self-reliant. Whether they get good friends and have a secure bond with their parents.
The skills necessary for Life are personality-related, health, and nutrition-related. Having a purpose in life. What is the future you want your child to have? Taking care of all their needs to give them a strong will to survive.
In our society, the biggest problem with life is being an outcast and failing to live with those around you. My sister has an IQ of 92 but she is an artist and has a daughter who she had with a man with an IQ of 140. My niece has the highest social intelligence of any kid I’ve seen. She gives her everything she needs. And Grandma is with her 24/7. She has friends in kindergarten and 20 people came to her 5th birthday party. She has an entire community around her.
My mom is going to give my sister her $160,000 house. It is paid off and on 2 archers on land in the countryside. I have a learning disability that lowers my IQ by 22 points but no one told me what to do when I left school. But I have a $74,000 house on a 30-year mortgage. My learning disability is opposite to my sister’s. Her processing speed is 120 mine is 75. I take meds and she does not. She is a secretary and I am jobless. She dropped out of high school and I did not. But everyone gives her stuff and she has friends and she can drive a car.
My mom was a good parent but had no direction in life. My dad sold our food stamps for weed my mom said and cigarettes were everywhere in his trailer. I have not seen him since 6 years old. But my grandmother bought us everything. She gave me $10,000. She had 5 kids. My oldest maternal uncle was born in 1936. My aunt born in 1947 made $50,000 a year as a school teacher for 30 years. My mother’s mother was from Montana born in 1917 and her father was born in 1903. They had serval properties in the state I live in.
The important thing is for parents to stay together. That is what makes it possible to raise kids properly. My niece’s dad left but she has an extended family so we all take care of her.
Anime how much traffic do you accumulate on your blog? im sad to say this but i think youve lost in life. as in society would deem you a loser and frankly a lot of people with common sense would 2.
are you on welfare? i know you said you didnt get much education other than community college i forgot if you finished did you finish? do you work at all? how much income do you make?
sorry for the personal questions and feel free to give general answers but ew need to know to correctly assess what your life is like and your competency in short.
i know life has been tough on you i dont blame you for not being able to accomplish a lot of the things you set out to do.
i think you overperformed everyone in a lot of ways! you are a very smart guy but you have issues 2.
i think the root of your problem is you internalize 2 much.
i externalize when appropriate at times but i do have a problem with internalizing 2 much as well and then externalizing it when i get frustrated and pent up.
i think you will have this problem if you dont correct things now. your blog is a good source of doing this and i think youve made grounds on correcting this problem however….
dicks like Pill and others in society will always put you down and force you or coerce in other words 2 internalize 2 much and fare inappropriately in social situations.
wishing you the best man i might quit commenting on these blogs soon! i hope Pumpkin posts this because theres some good stuff in here for sure that you can implement 2 your advantage.
i want to get in contact with you somehow lemme know if youre interested!
have a good rest of your day/evening!
your PATMA test appears to be offline and I can’t find an alternative anywhere, fyi.
Yes it’s offline while I put the questions in order of difficulty and add an 11th item since some readers are above 150 IQ
[self-hatred redacted by pp, 2023-05-21]
First of all – why do you think shes so attracted to you? You sound like someone that isn’t very humorous or lighthearted reading your letter. Are you good looking? Are you r selected in any way? If not, she is probably using you as some sort of retirement policy. Because I think having 5 kids already is extremely excessive personally and is a very plausible reason for why she would need support for one she gets to keep.
Even so many many men, in fact most men in western countries are k selected providers for their kids and don’t mind that kind of transaction to a relationship.
Another question – would having the kid bring her family into your life? Would she have to move in with you? Would you like being around such a person. It sounds like you have a soft spot for her.
Final thing is – whats the alternative. Its clear you are bored of your life and lack intimacy from other women. I think of ways you might attract better quality women honestly but its hard work at your age. If you don’t want to work for it, then this may be an easy way to have a partner, especially one you can kind of control provided your social intelligence is also superior to hers. (Big Q).
Animes answer to the man’s question:
My brain blah blah blah blah.
why do you feel so alone pill?
have you never been to a birthday party?
an actual Jewish rapper he attended USC just like my sister:
it gets lonely at the top! 😦
Loaded you were born in 1997 right?
Pill might be born in 77 and ian·Mugabe 67.
I was born in 1987.
Most stuff I remember between 2004 and 2014.
R. Kelly – Ignition (Remix) (Lyrics)
Where Is The Love – Black Eyed Peas (Lyrics) 🎵
Eminem – Not Afraid
i remember 2004 to 2014 very well i graduated in 2014 from high school. i had a lot of good memories during that time period but a chaotic life ever since.
2015 was my favorite year!
I moderated your comment because you give out way too much personal information. I admire how open you are but don’t take it that far.
ok fine ill word it like this….i was born in 1995 but closer to 1996 than 95. better?
if you redact that dont redact the fact that im 27 almost 28 so Anime can do the math for himself.
i wasnt born in 97 my sister was! im older than my sister by a year and a half.
i have a half white brother born in the early 80s i think 1980 iirc.
Her IQ sounds average, that’s the last thing you should be worried about here. You’re signing up for crazy in-laws and, much more important, children with self-destructive personalities. Get ready to play prison warden when they’re in their teens.
If delinquent kids sounds better than no kids, go for it. Plan for discipline problems and you may escape the worst of it.
PP, I just gave good advice there, so please pass it along to the e-mailer.
I’ll tell him to check the comment section if he hasn’t already.
Please don’t take this as throwing stones, because I can’t throw stones, but your comment section is a cesspool and if I were your reader I’d get about five comments in and give up.
I appreciate the feedback. Something needs to be done.
Not necessarily, just be aware that you may need to send the guy a link to the specific comment.
I’ll copy and paste and email it to him to make sure he sees it. Did you write it from a place of personal experience?
No, I just have a high opinion of my own opinions. In this case it’s an easy observation, personality dysfunction clearly runs in the woman’s family so the kids will be dysfunctional too.
Yes, we need to ban Loaded and Anime.
Anime is fine. He isn’t spammy enough to be a problem. No idea what your problem is with him. Even if he was autistic (he’s not), I don’t see how that warrants your bullying.
Loaded definitely needs to be banned. The dude is off his rocker. I’d say Mugabe too, but his comments at least have substance to them…sometimes. So I guess he isn’t really an issue.
If Pumpkin wanted higher-quality discussions and a comment section, he’d have to make higher-caliber blog posts. He’s pretty proficient, mathematically speaking. He should do more stuff like https://randomcriticalanalysis.com/.
This isn’t to say that he should always write content about stats; his political posts are sometimes intriguing, but they should be slightly more academic and thoughtful, no matter the subject. He’ll attract more intelligent readers that way.
Melo i make a greater contribution than you tbh. you just agree with RR and mimic and repeat things that have already been established.
no common sense. sorry.
Melo is a very good contributor. You have the social intelligence to realize he has a point. You do act a little crazy sometimes, one minute calling me a sand N word and the next minute saying you love and respect me.
thats true i am a bit of a psychotic individual but this is a safe space for thoughts like that!
its what makes this place so unique and so enjoyable!
“Aeoli Pera
said:
May 21, 2023 at 10:11 pm
Not necessarily, just be aware that you may need to send the guy a link to the specific comment.”
What are your estimates of the average IQs of the Edenic subtypes? You have already written 180(SD 15 I presume) for Star children and 155(SD 15 I presume) for melonheads in general.
What are your current estimates for Amuds, Mousterians, arch-melons, snake melons, Big eyed melons, owl melons, pig melons(if you consider them a distinct subtype), and star children?
im a big eye melon but IQ is irrelevant for people like these. unlike you (id guess youre Thal front and back) i have large amounts of empathy and extroversion.
“LOADEDsaid:May 23, 2023 at 11:01 pm
im a big eye melon but IQ is irrelevant for people like these. unlike you (id guess youre Thal front and back) i have large amounts of empathy and extroversion.”
You are right. I have the appearance of a stereotypical amud.
I am 6’4”, mesocephalic, with a prominent occipital bone and very gracile compared to Mousterians. My only trait that does not conform to the amud type is that I have an adipose face on a thin body. That may lead some to classify my appearance as “Cave bear syndrome neanderthal” rather than Amud. However it is the corollary of a large amount of buccal fat tissue rather than eurymorphic cranial bones like Gregor Mendel’s.
do you have very high openness? are you Indian? that would explain the gracile away.
i have extremely high openness to the point of no return honestly. its almost catastrophic.
I am very gracile compared to the hyperrobust mousterian type and the hyperrobust commenters on this blog like Ganzir and Bruno. In terms of robustness, I am average compared to the general white European population. I am Nikolai Valuev compared to the average Indian. I am a Serb with a Flemish Calvinist(an unusual religious affiliation in Habsburg loyalist Rubens country) great grandmother. I consider the big five traits rather ill-defined and devoid of the entertainment value immanent to the edenic taxonomy. However, both my intellect and my creativity are above the 99.999th percentile, if that’s what you mean.
do you have broad shoulders? thats awesome man the last part i mean. also i have a Tuscan Crusader relative somewhere in my distant past just like Mugabe wouldve expected!
i am a mesomorph naturally but i used to be ectomorphic and am now endomorphic due to being obese.
i am very big eye melon!
I have never done a precise measurement of my shoulder width.
I assume that it is larger than the shoulder width of 95 % of the general male population based on my shirt size. According to some data I found my XXL shirt size is a 95th percentile shirt size. That may be an underestimate of my shoulder width because of my low 21 BMI. I am also taller than 95% of the American male population.
I agree with your Big eye melon classification. You are a charismatic, extroverted person with above average intelligence.
The greatest limiting factor to your social success is your 5’4” height. A taller version of you could become a Ba’athist dictator and be worshipped as the pater patriae of a middle eastern country.
lol
pp, do you have a research schedule?
what does it look like?
whose IQ is at the top of the research list?
No I do not
Pumpkin do you listen 2 my rap songs? please be honest and also answer a damn question from me 4 once!
Never. I’m a huge fan of classical music. Mozart, Vivaldi, Puccini, Pavarotti. I love it all.
Classical music is not as good as rap in terms of aesthetics. just watch the music videos and youll find out how much of an artform its capable of being!
there are some raps that are almost Vivaldiesque or Mozartesque in beauty!
I like Beethovens Ode to Joy and Vivaldis Four Seasons. Huge fan.
« Never. I’m a huge fan of classical music. Mozart, Vivaldi, Puccini, Pavarotti. I love it all.«
That list sounds very much like Oprah & Loaded buying your blog sounds very much like horror dystopian fiction lol
Oprah doesnt listen to classical music lol. Probably soul and R&B type stuff like Aretha Franklin
Oprah loves classical music, I’m sure of it. Speaking of which, I think Oprah has the best chance of winning the 2024 election against Donald Trump.
Pumpkin lets a make a deal ill stop posting rap videos if you stop censoring my comments!
sounds 2 good to be true doesnt it? because its not!
Once in a while is okay but not every day
I’m also trying to increase the civility in the comment section so if you could help with that too
i would gladly you are a companion of mine Pumpkin i love you dearly.
lets make amends. i promise you civility as long as you can promise to be impartial and help protect my credibility against users who choose to discredit it!
Did you measure her skull yet?
lol. thats the new lifestyle.
Pumpkin i think now would be a good time to sell your blog!
if you read old books [n word redacted by pp, 2023-05-23] is just used to mean “negro” without any pejorative connotation.
the reason is negro has two long vowels and thus is 2x as long as [n word redacted by pp, 2023-05-23] .
it’s like saying “bob” instead of “robert”.
so intelligent people still use [n word redacted by pp, 2023-05-23] and refuse to play along with the current taboos…soon to be superseded taboos.
Your standards for me are much higher than for Robert. No way would you have posted this if I wrote it.
“so intelligent people still use [n word redacted by pp, 2023-05-23] and refuse to play along with the current taboos”
Lmao.
youre an idiot dude. you lack a lot of self awareness. youre also very sensitive due to autism and lack any self restraint when targeted.
build resilience for 1nce.
AS MUGABE SAID!
fuck da police