In 1995, Oprah’s net worth ballooned to $340 million, allowing her to qualify for Forbes annual ranking of the 400 richest Americans. She had already been the richest woman in entertainment for several years, but the Forbes list put her in a new category, along side the big boys like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Stephen Spielberg. Even though she was dead last on the list, it didn’t matter; she was on the Forbes 400. One of the 400 richest people in the richest country in the history of the World. The only black and only performer to make the list that year.
You could tell she had a new confidence, and she even started dressing more business like and got a new hair style:
At one point she jokingly refered to herself as “Miss Forbes list” and at another point she clapped her hands together and said “y’all know I got a lot of money”.
Even a highly intelligent relative who had nothing but disdain for daytime talk shows and rolled his eyes whenever I mentioned Oprah, suddenly had a new found respect for her, simply because she made that list. At the time it was unimaginable that a mere daytime talk show host, let alone a black female one, could make that list. Even better, with Oprah’s hot new contract, Forbes predicted she’s become a billionaire (unheard of for blacks in those days).
Every year when the leaves changed colours I would bike to the local corner story to get the annual Forbes 400. “Is Oprah a billionaire yet?” I asked the clerk in 1996, “no $415 million”
“Is Oprah a billionaire yet?” I asked in 1997. “no $550 million”
“Is Oprah a billionaire yet?” I asked in 2002. “no $975 million”
At this point Forbes was just being stingy. Round up to a billion already, you’re killing me.
Finally in 2003, Forbes made it official. Oprah was the rarest of creatures: A black billionaire and for three straight years she was the ONLY black billionaire (especially in the United States).
However in the years since black billionaires have become more an more common. No longer the unicons they were in 2007, there are now roughly half a dozen black billionaires in America alone.
Sadly, instead of making our elite more integrated, the rise of black billionaires has meant billionaires are less elite.
In 1982 only $90 million made you one of the 400 richest Americans and roughly $2 billion made you #1, but today you need over $2.9 billion just to make the Forbes 400 and over $200 billion just to be number one.
A new generation of blacks had finally reached the promise land, only to find that the promise land has moved and they’ve been priced out.
And for the first time ever, even Oprah, whose $2.6 billion fortune has stagnated since ending her hugely successful talk show ten years ago, failed to make the cut. Luckily, this rare failure has been eclipsed by the news that Donald Trump has also has been priced out of the Forbes 400 this year. It’s the first time in a quarter century either of these two iconic names (which had become synonymous with wealth itself) have failed to make the rich list.
End of an era indeed.
Flaminhotcheetos said:
Hey pp I have a request. Can you estimate the average IQ of different MBTI types (with respect to 100 of the overall population average) based on these:
https://preview.redd.it/9jir9yf76ds51.png?auto=webp&s=e781bb67f695d54ceaee079928b393b09da3fa5d
https://www.personalitycafe.com/attachments/imageproxy-php-jpg.684626/
Ganzir said:
What exactly is this saying? For everyone 100 ESFJs there are 0.24 gifteds (so one in 417), but 3.4 gifteds for every 100 INTPs?
I’m an INTP, incidentally.
LOADED said:
upward mobility made whites smart.
Flaminhotcheetos said:
For the second one, here is a post:
overall population distribution:
Click to access 20025HO.pdf
I used to think I am INTP when I used letter typing but I am not comfortable with typing anymore after finding out about the function typing since none of the 16 permutations seem to be a good fixed fit.
Some Guy said:
Frankly, I’m more impressed by that clerk 🙂
Anyway, I’m picturing this like the kid in Willy and the Chocolate Factory finally winning that golden ticket. Then you ran back to your room at home with the walls covered in pictures of Oprah and calculations of skull circumferences. Heartwarming!
Do you know who this was by the way?
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/81555-largest-human-skull
Ganzir said:
“The largest skull documented in medical literature belonged to a man with a cranial capacity of 1,980 cm³ (120 in³). Although the shape of his skull was normal, the cranial capacity of a human skull averages at between 950 – 1,800 cm³ (57.9 – 109 in³) depending on age and body size.”
I bet I could beat that. I ought to make arrangements to have my skull extracted and sent to Guinness after my death.
pumpkinperson said:
Yes it was a bit like the golden ticket. Maybe it was Turgenev’s skull. His brain weighed 2021 g (1854 in vivo) which equates to 1921 cc. But considering he died at 64, his brain likely shrunk, meaning his cranium was even larger.
Ganzir said:
My genes are like the golden ticket as far as intracranial volume is concerned
Although I must be packing heat in other physiological traits related to intelligence too, since my I.Q. is higher than expected even for someone with a cranium six standard deviations above the mean (normalized), assuming a brain size-I.Q. correlation of ~0.4.
Ganzir said:
Pepe, do you donate blood? I did so for the first time about a week ago, and my only regret is that I didn’t start sooner. I got an e-mail recently saying that they’d found a recipient!
LOADED said:
rap music actually does do the talking for me. i control the rap media.
dealwithit said:
Hopefully I’ll be on the Forbes list one day. I just need to buy more NFTs..
the tree of good and oprah said:
NFTs, hahahaha.
too much raul paul. a tall streetshitter who lives with his black husband in the caymans.
sad,
if you can pay cabbies in whatever crypto, then all other cryptos die. said:
the so-called “technology” behind NFTs and cyptocurrencies will be adopted by banks, REITs, etc…like SBNY has done.
but the assets themselves…BTC is the rabbit that wins the race. the technical superiority of other cryptocurrencies doesn’t matter. what matters is if you can buy vodka with crypto. the network is the thing. not the thing.
illuminaticatblog said:
I have understood the mechanism of intelligence for several weeks now. I have a high meta-intelligence. Oprah is a high meta-learner. Because the mechanism of intelligence is figuring out what works and what doesn’t. She does this well. High intelligence is doing this in parallel. She knows many ways things could go.
I knew about the mechanism for years but only now fully get it. I knew that when the brain gets things wrong it should rearrange things until it gets it right. This learning mechanism should be in a hiearchy. Everything was in place except I had no idea how spatial intelligence worked.
The parietal and frontal lobes are connected. I now understand how modulation between them creates imagination and spatial intelligence.
illuminaticatblog said:
Bryana said:
Good afternoon, Pumpkin Person
My son was administered the WISC V some months ago. After the test he was placed at a profoundly gifted program, but when I asked for the results, the responsible psychologist refused to share with me.
We live in New York since 2005 (well, he was born in 2015, but you got it). His name is Gregory and he was 6 years and 5 months at the time of testing.
I insisted to see gregory’s scores, but she told me the best she would do was to show me his raw scores. Anyway, they dont mean anything to me as I can’t interpret it.
One of my friends told me about your website and how you would help me understanding this situation
Follow his raw scores:
Block Design 54
Similarities 39
Matrix Reasoning 31
Digit Span 41
Coding 74
Vocabulary 48
Figure Weight 34
Visual Puzzle 27
Picture Span 49
Symbol Search 42
Information 30
Picture completion 27
Letter Number sequencing 29
Cancelation 110
Comprehension 30
Arihmetic 33
Ps.:The reason he was tested was because of his amazing mathematical, verbal and memory skills.
Kindly,
Bryana
pumpkinperson said:
Hi, thanks for asking. My Wechsler research focuses more on adult testing so I don’t have the latest children’s manual which is required to convert raw scores to scaled scores. But remember those raw scores as anyone with a WISC-V manual should be able to help.
The psychologist was probably worried that if she told you the scores, you might have unrealistic expectations since scores that young are not yet stable and a lot of early bloomers regress precipitously to the mean by adolescence.
James Austin said:
PP, I think you should take a look at it… I found an extended WISC V manual and holy shit… IT EQUATES TO A FSIQ OVER 210. How is it possible? Possibly smartest person alive???
Ganzir said:
“How is it possible?”
It isn’t. It’s a meaningless projection
James Austin said:
Hey Ganzir! Don’t be envy! You might not be so intelligent, as well as he’s probably not really 210, but he is for sure smarter than you!
James Austin said:
Ganzir, I understand its a projection, but its not meaningless. I doubt any 6 yo kid would score 31/32 on Matrix Reasoning. It’s WAAAAY rarer than what terence tao scored on RAPM (also a matrix reasoning test)
31/32 is arouns 150 for 16 years old, while Terence Tao scored 130 on RAPM. It might be a projection, but surely means something
It seems like you’re envy because you’re not that intelligent by any means. I scored 10/10 on PATMA and was profissionaly tested 159 on WAIS IV and I say for sure this kid is waaay smarter than me
ted cruz is bullied on facebook. said:
when a fat irish traveler named after mike tyson keeps winning…
maybe boxing isn’t what it used to be.
sad.
Teffec P. said:
It’s all about MMA nowadays, but Fury is a monster. 85″ reach. Also red-pilled af.
does heavyweight boxing draw from a larger pool of talent today? said:
or maybe the opposite is the case.
the height and weight of heavyweight champions has gone up enormously eveN since big george forman.
so that the champs of today would DESTROY the champs of yesterday.
lennox lewis and the klitschkos from shit poor ukraine started this trend.
the other great fat champ was larry holmes.
if only mezzogiornese could look like arnold, rr wouldn't be so angry all the time. said:
so as mugabe has said before the most recent other great white heavyweight, marciano, would be DESTROYED by today’s heavyweights, BUT…
at cruiserweight he’d still TOTALLY DOMINATE.
he was a freak. still best ENDURANCE of any boxer at any weight class. he was ADDICTED to exercise.
he was just as good in the 15th round as the 1st…UNLIKE his competitors.
he was like if a marathon runner became a boxer.
the message (from Marthon Man) i sent to the swedish embassy:
LOADED said:
Boomers never had values.
Teffec P. said:
Forbes is very accurate. A car manufacturer is definitely wealthier than the patriarchs of centuries-old banking dynasties who own Forbes. If you disagree, you’re an antisemite. Simple as that.
pumpkinperson said:
No one’s claiming Forbes is 100% accurate and they might have missed (or turned a blind eye) to a few Jewish fortunes here and there, but overall Forbes tells the story of ENORMOUS Jewish wealth. Despite being 2% of America, Jews are 35% of the Forbes 400, and a far larger percentage of billionaires with media and political influence.
Also keep in mind that Forbes lists individual wealth only. Some fortunes are divided among so many family members that no single individual qualifies, despite the family as a whole being super rich. Also, with the explosion of technology, globalization & meritocracy,, it’s hard for old money to stay on top, especially with estate taxes and regression to the mean.
i guarantee oprah hates poor black people more than she hates rich white people. said:
it’s interesting how the classism of anglo-america-zion extends to the nazis too.
so the nazi base is described as “lower middle class”. why not “working class”? because that would just be a lie not semantics.
semantics:
what’s not said is that the “lower middle class” of germany in 1930 was what in the US today is called “upper middle class”.
so you get the yuge following among uiversity students in a time where such were a very small % of their cohort. and you get 50% of MDs as members of the nazi party.
nazism was an avante-garde, radical chic, intellectual movement.
it was NOT eastern ky trailer dwelling NASCAR fans…
the point of this false identification is…
“nazis are bad” is easy to SELL.
easier to SELL than poor people should be put in gas chambers.
…
bolshies hate the bourgeoisie.
nazis hate jews (and the haute bourgeoisie).
neoliberals hate poor people (especially when they lookm like them.)
plus ça change.
banned by alex jones said:
this was the point of premogeniture (only one child inherits.)
if a rich man has two chirren. and his two chirren have two chirren. and…
then the fortune has to double every generation just to keep up with the chirren.
any no matter how good your genes and your spouse’s genes…you’re gonna have some stupid kids…eventually.
unless you belong to the mugabe family.
illuminaticatblog said:
what about the Intelligentsia?
pumpkinperson said:
https://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/09/demographics-of-top-50-pundits.html
Teffec P. said:
I mean there’s a difference between a source of wealth like that of the Vanderbilts’ and the business of literally conjuring, accounting for, and reallocating wealth itself. They own the auditors and anyone who uses money, PP! Technology will make it easier for those with money to retain it in the long run. It allows for competition and the rapid accumulation of vast wealth now, but at a certain point, it will be so powerful and inaccessible that those with exclusive access to it will use it to keep us in our place. This has already been going on in a less obvious way.
True elites don’t care much for merit/competence. If they did, racial quotas wouldn’t be a thing. That’s not to say that talent doesn’t play a role in social mobility, but you’d be surprised at how much success depends on whom you know/are related to and “playing the game” (doing the bidding of those who already have power), as you call it. True power is hereditary, and those with it know it.
“We’re all different from you. You see, we were born different. It’s in our blood. And nothing that you do or say or steal… or dream up can ever change that.”
pumpkinperson said:
I mean there’s a difference between a source of wealth like that of the Vanderbilts’ and the business of literally conjuring, accounting for, and reallocating wealth itself.
Maybe. I don’t know much about banking so I can’t assess your theory that it’s impossible for hundreds of people to be richer than the descendants of ancient bank moguls. All rich lists are just an approximation so you can always quibble about any one person be over or under-estimated, sometimes by orders of magnitude. But the fact that Jews are dramatically overestimated and blacks are dramatically underestimated on the Forbes list fits with HBD and Jewish influence.
illuminaticatblog said:
Pumpkin look up Edward Bernays. You posted a list of propagandists, not intelligentsia. These aren’t learned people doing research advancing science and philosophy. You show bias pumpkin of what power is. That is why I am board of 135 IQ topics. Do more 145 IQ topics. Genius level topics. You are becoming stagnant pumpkin. sorry 😦
The Philosopher said:
Puppy I’m trying not to use language that will get another comment banned. But I find the idea that the jews actually want to be promoted in these lists as very…socially uninformed. Rich people want LESS attention. And if you are powerful enough you will not have stupid forbes journalists going through your finances.
pumpkinperson said:
Puppy I’m trying not to use language that will get another comment banned. But I find the idea that the jews actually want to be promoted in these lists as very…socially uninformed.
They are promoted on the list whether they want to be or not. Despite being 2% of America, they’re 35% of the Forbes 400. By contract blacks are 13% of America but only 0.5% of the Forbes 400.
Rich people want LESS attention.
Journalism is when the powerful don’t want attention, but you give it anyway.
And if you are powerful enough you will not have stupid forbes journalists going through your finances.
So you must think Jews are very unpowerful because they’re absurdly overrepresented on the Forbes list.
The Philosopher said:
Anyways Paul, I have a theory that matches that theory you have about controlling the money supply, but it involves access to central banks.
Teffec P. said:
Most people don’t realize that the Federal Reserve isn’t federal; it’s private – and its proceedings are less than transparent. Central bankers effectively rule the world. And “central bankers” isn’t an antisemitic dog whistle, ADL; a few of them are gentile.
Also someone like Putin is easily wealthier than Musk.
pumpkinperson said:
Also someone like Putin is easily wealthier than Musk
You sound like a Russiagater
The Philosopher said:
You dont get it Puppy. Forbes are friends of the powerful and wealthy, not their regulators or whatever. Do you even understand the role of the media at all?
pumpkinperson said:
So Jews must not be powerful since they’re the ones whose wealth Forbes most often exposes. Forbes just pretends Jews are 18 times overrepresented on the Forbes 400 to coverup for the gentile elite that has the real money. Thanks for clearing up my confusion.
Teffec P. said:
Those aren’t the big Jews, PP. Bloomberg is a pissant.
Also are you implying that black people are somehow intrinsically worse at making money, you racist POS? Human evolution affects only melanin and the 100 meters. Get over it.
pumpkinperson said:
Those aren’t the big Jews, PP. Bloomberg is a pissant
Hilarious. You finally get some excellent journalism confirming your theory that Jews run the World but you refuse to believe it because it’s the WRONG Jews. At this point Jewish conspiracy theories have achieved their own negation.
Teffec P. said:
I already explained that we’re talking about BANKSTERS. Most people aren’t autistic racialists who would get anything political or anthropological out of a thing like the Forbes 400. You even said yourself that net worth and power aren’t the same thing, but now a carefully curated list of rich non-bankers (plebs) debunks Jewish conspiracy? Nigga please.
pumpkinperson said:
I just think you’re violating Occam’s razor. Assuming there must be some secret class of God-like Jews to explain Jewish influence when the known Jews on the Forbes 400 are more than numerous & politically & media active to explain it.
pumpkinperson said:
Quora disagrees with teffec & pill. David S Rose writes:
There are no trillionaires in the world—nor anyone with even one tenth that amount of money. But since Forbes only has access to public information (and insider gossip), there is also no doubt that their estimates are imperfect.
That said, anyone with wealth even approaching the top half of the list would be publicly known to many people, so it is all but inconceivable that they have completely missed one of the top, say, 50. But by the time you get down to #400, I wouldn’t be shocked to find that there was a legitimate billionaire or two who had managed to escape the eagle eyes of the interns who pull together most of the research.
Teffec P. said:
Jew says Jews don’t control money supply
LOL
pumpkinperson said:
Except the Forbes list is overwhelmingly Jewish.
The Philosopher said:
Forbes NEVER calls them jews. To the average person they are just more white men.
pumpkinperson said:
Because Forbes is not trying to expose Jewish power, they’re just looking for the truth & letting the chips fall where they may. If the list were just propaganda it would not be so dominated by Jews and so lacking in blacks. These stats tell me they care more about being correct than being politically correct.
NFTs have AIDS. said:
who is “paul”?
raoul pal?
pumpkinperson said:
The p in Teffec P. Pill uses odd appellations (e.g. calling you Robert instead of the last name Mugabe).
The Philosopher said:
Forbes has the right constitution of the moneyed elite by race but it has the wrong people in the list. Why is that so hard to understand? There may well be 50 really high net worth people missing in my view.
pumpkinperson said:
I can agree with that but I consider that a very low error rate given all the difficulties involved. My point is the Forbes list is a close enough approximation of reality to be useful in research.
The Philosopher said:
They dont have a very low error rate, they have a very high one. Theres simply no way to know who the wealthiest are unless the IRS or requivalent regulator audits everyone. At the moment they barely audit 1% of UNHW people. Not even private bankers working in offshore tax havens know wealthy their clients are.
pumpkinperson said:
50 out of 400 is low. Even 2 IRS agents who audited everyone and each independently made their own list of the 400 richest Americans would disagree in dozens of cases on who should be on the list. Estimating wealth is as much art as science.
The Philosopher said:
Its not art vs science. Its reality vs not reality and the forbes list is kind of like a very limited view of the rich. The sample is big enough to say that jews constitute 35% of UNHW people but how far the scale goes and who should be in the list is basically a secret.
pumpkinperson said:
But the reality is theoretical because unless every billionaire 100% liquidates at the exact same time, there’s no way to prove how much any of them have. It’s like IQ. If we made a list of the 400 smartest Americans as measured by the SAT, we’d have different people than if we made a list of the 400 smartest as measured by the WAIS because both are just approximations of this elusive trait we call intelligence, but both lists would be statistically equivalent in that both would have the same ratio of Jews to blacks etc.
It doesn’t matter who the 400 richest Americans really are. All that matters is who Forbes says they are, because Forbes is the arbiter of wealth, just like an umpire is the arbiter of who wins at sports.
Bruno said:
The ratio of Jews to blacks would be undefined in both cases 🙂
"the beauty of me is i'm very rich." --- trump said:
i used to subscribe to Forbes before it became stupid. there was a 400 issue and the blurb for trump said, “we love trump. he returns our calls…he complains he’s much richer than we say he is.”
trump is another case of a weird billionaire. peter thiel is too. as mugabe has said before, it used to be in the 50s and 60s and 70s in america that the UHNWs were considered weird, people you wouldn’t want to be. then reagan and the death of howard hughs so bono can say, “the guy with the big house on the hill. an american says, ‘someday i’m gonna be that guy.’ the irishman says, ‘someday i’m gonna get that guy.'”
for example: blacks are really good at making sandwiches compared to jews??? said:
the SAT vs wechsler ratio would not be the same. unless by “same” you mean “qualitatively the same”. jews and blacks have a unique “intelligence profile”. so the SAT and wechsler might favor or disfavor this profile in calculating the FSIQ.
illuminaticatblog said:
Mugabe and animekitty have unique profiles as well. That is why g is not FSIQ. I’m 14 points higher on g but performance is way low. why? I don’t know. Mug is culturally intelligent and uninhibited. It is a personality feature that contributes to social IQ. uninhibited means trying new things. Being unafraid to think certain thoughts.
The Philosopher said:
“All that matters is who Forbes says they are, because Forbes is the arbiter of wealth, just like an umpire is the arbiter of who wins at sports.”
Wrong again. Forbes isn’t something like a credit rating agency or an umpire. Its basically an informed opinion. I’m sure if you asked the journalists themselves they would say they suspect others should be on the list but they have no access to the info.
pumpkinperson said:
Actually it is like a credit rating. You’re far more likely to get bank loans & investors if you’re on the list.
actually indian whisky is worse. said:
mass media has done articles on “hidden billionaires”.
if your billions come from one public co, it’s impossible to hide.
if your billions come from “investments”/”investments management”, it’s a lot easier.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/photo-essays/2011-08-03/bloomberg-markets-hidden-billionaires
Name said:
PP,Jews much more than 2% of the population. I think the census is under reporting their numbers so there wont be any backlash or something against them.
pumpkinperson said:
How the hell would you know? Did you do your own poll or something?
in the 40s full jews were actually 5% of americans. said:
i believe name is correct. the 2% figure is for people who identify as jews. including half jews or quarter jews who do not identify as jews might get it up to 5%.
this is the % of americans who can make aliyah.
pumpkinperson said:
I wouldn’t include quarter Jews. But including half-Jews only gets you to 2.4%:
https://www.pewforum.org/2021/05/11/the-size-of-the-u-s-jewish-population/
Name said:
PP, I didn’t do my own poll. It’s a guess, that is why I said “I think”.
the poison mushroom said:
and it’s interesting how the nazis’ understanding of themselves has been accepted by hollywood…
hollywood does not portray literal nazis as ugly, gross, or ridiculous.
which is how nazis portrayed jews.
nazis are portrayed as…angelic, but evil…not subhuman or superhuman…but inhuman.
illuminaticatblog said:
but he did have a good voice. said:
yes. and he was a midget with a club foot. but…
he was also a PhD in literature and married a divorcee who had been married to a Quandt and had a bajillion chirren he killed in the bunker.
there is a rumor he had an enormous penis.
his sportpalast speahc was as good as any of hitler’s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportpalast_speech
actually…one of the lessons of WW 2 is…in a manner of speaking…
germans are slow to anger. but once roused. they will destroy you.
the victors write history...but that doesn't mean you should believe it. said:
…his sportpalast speech…
exhorted the German people to continue the war even though it would be long and difficult because—as he asserted—both Germany’s survival and the survival of a non-Bolshevist Europe were at stake.
funny how the cold war started IMMEDIATELY after WWII…why would the US choose the USSR over nazi germany as ally? why didn’t it ally itself with germany? why did britain declare war over half of poland (a country that hadn’t existed in 1914)?
the victors write history...but that doesn't mean you should believe it. said:
…his sportpalast speech…
exhorted the German people to continue the war even though it would be long and difficult because—as he asserted—both Germany’s survival and the survival of a non-Bolshevist Europe were at stake.
funny how the cold war started IMMEDIATELY after WWII…why would the US choose the USSR over nazi germany as ally? why didn’t it ally itself with germany? why did britain declare war over half of poland (a country that hadn’t existed in 1914)?
The Philosopher said:
Am I banned again?
The Philosopher said:
Allegedly the saudi royal family is worth a trillion. But yes Puppy is finally right about something when he says that its for the whole family. The thing about middle eastern custom though is that the leader of the clan has a lot of de facto power over the other members access to the money. So Mohammed Bin Salman can be roughly equated to being a really wealthy guy. Wealthier than Bezos anyway de facto.
pumpkinperson said:
The richest are not necessarily the most powerful as you know. Attacking a rich list for not including every powerful person is like attacking a thermometer for not telling us blood pressure.
The Philosopher said:
Whatever happened to Mikey Blaze? Is that his name? The mixed race guy that went to Hollywood.
Tez said:
I don’t mean it as an insult in any way but I will simply never understand your obsession with Oprah, PP. What makes her so special? Did she cure your dog’s cancer or something?
pumpkinperson said:
I just find it fascinating that the world’s biggest brained black became the world’s only black billionaire (for several years) and the world’s biggest brained woman became the worlds most influential woman & both were the same person.
why so many mining cos on the TSE and ASX compared to the american exchanges? said:
canada’s and australia’s stock exchanges have so many mining cos.
why are mining cos (including oil and ng cos) generally a shitty investment?
or why have they been shitty investments for so long?
don’t they hedge?
it would be funny if it weren't so evil... said:
the office of general secretary of the communist party (stalin) and fuhrer (hitler) are NOT new!
medieval kings and later tsars and elizabeth i had even more power.
in other words, what is labeled a “dictatorship” by the CIA, is just a recrudescence of monarchy.
but they don't use them, or they don't exist. said:
it’s interesting how derivatives would make mining cos not shitty investments.
Der Mythus des zwanzigsten Jahrhunderts said:
another example of family achievement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Olivier,_1st_Baron_Olivier
but as far as wikipedia says, there’s no advantage they both had except blood.
LOADED said:
Anime and mugabe are not very bright.
Ganzir said:
Pepe I made a tinder profile two days ago, estimate my chance of getting laid before I turn 23 (next September)
i think you meant grindr. in which case 100%. said:
by a man?
Ganzir said:
no
save it for later. said:
still waiting for ganzir and pill personalities to explain why mining cos are such shitty investments.
hint: there’s a mathematical + economic + social IQ answer. the right answer includes all 3.
another IQ money question said:
whisk(e)y producing countries: scotland, ireland, japan, the US, canada.
of these the candian whiskies are the cheapest. why?
because it's the only way to sell it? said:
if you think about it, the normalization of so many of what were in olden days termed “sexual perversions” is actually homophobic and transphobic.
that makes no sense mugabe. stop smoking hegel. — peepee
it’s the difference between:
1. i can only tolerate you if you’re normal.
VS
2. i tolerate you even though you aren’t normal.
the former is evil. the latter is good.
was trying to post on sailer how... said:
despite possible intentions…
American Gigolo is the most pro-family movie ever made.
IQ test question: why?
brad davis died from AIDS because he was short. said:
hint: WATCH American Gigolo.
Teffec P. said:
Did you watch Squid Game, PP? I used to think the Japanese were obsessed with Hello Kitty and shit because of nuclear fallout, but even Koreans have bizarre and somewhat childish taste in media. Is “bizarre” what genetic inferiors call genetic superiors?
The Philosopher said:
We’re just going to have to disagree puppy about forbes. You have maybe bottom 10% social IQ demographic, and I’m in the upper half so its clear you lack the social intelligence to understand how rich people think. I’m sorry. I tried explaining it but you kept saying the journalists were all powerful.
pumpkinperson said:
LOL! My social intelligence is high enough to actually become a rich person, unlike you who still lives in your parents’ basement because you’ve been fired 15 times. Your social intelligence is so low you claimed smashing another guy over the head with a beer bottle was a good way to impress women. LMAO! Who thinks that? What kind of inbred backwoods shithole were you raised in?
What part of how rich people think do I not understand? That many of them want to hide their wealth? DUH.
You don’t understand how journalists think. They want to find hidden stories.
There’s also a huge number of rich people who flaunt their wealth because one of the biggest benefits of money is status which is hard to have if no one knows you’re rich.
I never said journalists were omnipotent. I agree with you that around 50 rich people are missing from the Forbes 400, you’re just too mathematically slow to realize that’s a low error rate. It would imply a correlation between real wealth and estimated wealth that’s over 0.8 (higher than the correlation between the most respected IQ tests)
The Philosopher said:
Puppy you and I have both acknowledged you have autism. Please stop pretending youre more socially sophisticated than me when its a medical impossibility. Many thanks, The Philosopher.
pumpkinperson said:
I’ve acknowledged that I have several autistic traits but none of the many psychologists I’ve seen have ever considered me autistic. You on the other hand were considered autistic by two independent psychiatrists.
But let’s say I lean more autistic and you lean more psychotic. That would simply increase the odds of you being socially intelligent, it would guarantee nothing. The average psycho might be more socially intelligent than the average autist (and even the evidence for that is very slim), but the bell curves of both groups show huge overlap. Assuming all autists are socially dumb makes about as much sense as assuming Yao Ming must be short since he’s East Asian.
The Philosopher said:
“smashing another guy over the head with a beer bottle was a good way to impress women. ”
Correct. Next.
pumpkinperson said:
“smashing another guy over the head with a beer bottle was a good way to impress women. ”
Correct. Next.
I rest my case.
The Philosopher said:
“I agree with you that around 50 rich people are missing from the Forbes 400, you’re just too mathematically slow to realize that’s a low error rate”
You realise I made up the number 50? I said that as an anology. For example, if most of those 50 constituted the top 100 of the list, it completely changes the character of the list. You just don’t get simple arguments puppy. Then how can you handle me?
pumpkinperson said:
You realise I made up the number 50?
No really? I thought you did an investigative report! Of course you made it up, like everything else you claim, but even a broke watch is right twice a day.
I said that as an anology.
It’s spelled “analogy”.
For example, if most of those 50 constituted the top 100 of the list, it completely changes the character of the list.
Even that’s a very low error rate. You don’t get correlation at all, (maybe you should learn) because if you could, you’d know that given a 0.8 correlation between real wealth and estimated wealth, the vast majority of the 50 richest people would not be among the 50 estimated richest people.
You just don’t get simple arguments puppy. Then how can you handle me?
Pretty sure I can handle someone who spells like a 12-year-old, but thanks for the warning.
illuminaticatblog said:
for 50 people on the top, 25 would be 50% of the unknown given a 0.5 correlation. (?)
pumpkinperson said:
There are 330 million Americans. Let’s say 218 million are adults. The typical top 50 person is top 25 which is one in 8.72 million level, which is +5.13 SD on a normalized curve. If real wealth correlated only 0.5 with estimated wealth, the average top 50 rich person would have an estimated wealth of 0.5)(+5.13) = +2.57 SD which means less than 1% of them would be on the Forbes top 50.
But the correlation is way higher than 0.5.
The Philosopher said:
“For example, if most of those 50 constituted the top 100 of the list, it completely changes the character of the list.
Even that’s a very low error rate. You don’t get correlation at all, (maybe you should learn) because if you could, you’d know that given a 0.8 correlation between real wealth and estimated wealth, ”
Your verbal reasoning is so poor. If I replaced most of the top 100 with completely new people thats called being wrong about the list. And you made up the 0.8 number. In reality you have no idea what the real list is which is exactly the point we’ve been trying to make to you.
pumpkinperson said:
But the actual list is not knowable. It’s an abstraction. Unless 100% of your wealth is in publicly traded stock or cash, no one can ever say, categorically, that they have a net worth of X at time Y. Example:
On the question of the value of Jackson’s image and likeness, the court determined a value of roughly $4.1 million. This is about $1 million more than the Estate argued was correct at trial, but about $3 million more than the Estate reported on the Estate tax return. However, it is about $400 million less than what the IRS examiner came up with. Why were the IRS and the taxpayer so far apart? According to the court, the IRS was including assets that should not have been included in the “intangible” of likeness and image, and were already accounted for elsewhere in the assets of the Estate that the taxpayer and the IRS agreed upon. In addition, the IRS’s expert included assets that simply were not foreseeable at the time of Jackson’s death.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/irswatch/2021/05/04/the-king-of-pop-prevails-in-tax-court/?sh=3e2122af29d3
This topic is too subtle for a concrete thinker like yourself.
IDontHavetheManual said:
Pumpkin, what would be my WAIS-III PRI if my PSI is 90, VCI is just over 130 and WMI is about 125 (FSIQ 119)?
IDontHavetheManual said:
* POI
pumpkinperson said:
There’s no way to calculate from the info you gave. The full-scale IQ is not a composite of the index scores on the WAIS-III like it is on the WAIS-IV. Some subtests used to calculate index scores are not used to calculate Full-scale IQ.
10% of americans have some andaman pygmy affinity. said:
here you can see pew finds 3.7% of americans are what cyber nazis would call jews.
https://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/chapter-1-population-estimates/
jews did not out marry much until recently.
the association of jewish soybean farmers is a hard club to get into. said:
so you see of “whites”, jews and part jews are more than 5%. but their population, like that of italians is very unevenly distributed across the US. so that the cop who arrested mel gibson happened to be jewish wasn’t actually as impossible as it might appear.
actual "bodycam" footage of mel gibson arrest promoted by youtube. said:
was Sheriff’s Deputy James Mee actually jewish?
a few months ago there was more on the wiki page.
Gibson said to the officer, “Fucking Jews… the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world. Are you a Jew?”
so mugabe was fooled by wikipedia again…but the opposite.
sad.
The Philosopher said:
Mel was totally set up.
very very weird story. said:
“My client is being retaliated against because he is a Jewish deputy,” Lorant continues.
this story is so weird i can’t come up with an explanation immediately except that the deputy and his jewish lawyer are lying for money. but i’m not confident about that either. it’s an IQ test question.
https://people.com/crime/deputy-who-arrested-mel-gibson-accuses-sheriffs-of-cover-up/
very very weird story. said:
and is bodycam footage of arrest illegal to release everywhere or just in california? and this would be weird because if someone is filming you with their cell phone in a public place you can’t tell them to stop, it’s legal.
very weird.
US state with fewest jews = n dakota said:
it is quite a coincidence. even in LA the number of jewish cops has got to be miniscule. in nyc it used to be a lot more. victor niederhoffer’s father was a cop. there was a jewish cop from nyc in the documentary People Like Us.
LOADED said:
Mug you are the most idiotic schizophrenic internet user there ever was and ever will be. log out of your computer for once and get a breath of fresh air.
i detect bullshit. said:
maybe i don’t know boxing, but…
when they say, “fury is a ‘technical boxer’. wilder isn’t.”
i think, what you’re really saying is, “fury is white and wilder is black.”
but maybe they’re right.
CCNY was a great basketball team in the 50s iirc...and it was jewish. said:
here’s the scene, but my browser…it’s a black screen…but i can hear the audio. maybe it’s adblock.
https://www.pbs.org/video/people-us-trouble-paradise/
or so i have read. said:
as with cops in nyc so with norway inter alia.
that is, when judged by income alone nyc cops are in the top 5% of americans and when judged by income alone norway has no class system.
but when you look at things in addition to income you find…
nyc cops are low life thugs and norway has a rigid class structure.
to a decision on it said:
my dad did advertise once that i know/remember of in some local cable tv version of tv guide. it doesn’t exist anymore.
mee’s lawyer’s website: https://www.lalaw4u.com/
“lorant” idk. i just know that “etan” is a jewish name, an israeli name.
illuminaticatblog said:
Thought Block is a problem of “self-reference”. A piece of the mind is literally disconnected from itself and fails to generate. Now it may be that something is still connected but it depends on what actually is coming out where a person will suddenly just stop. Low working memory exacerbates this like me.
The Philosopher said:
You sound like an alien most of the time Puppy. I knew you were autistic just from reading your blog and comments. Its obvious.
pumpkinperson said:
Of course I sound like an alien. That’s my appeal. I blog about measuring skulls & study humans like they were lab rats. It shows even more social intelligence that someone with such a weird personality has adapted so well to society, unlike you who has been fired 15 times & still lives in mommy’s basement.
The Philosopher said:
No you haven’t adapted well to society. You evolved for society and to be a pliant servant of Master. There was nothing you needed to do.
pumpkinperson said:
How am I pliant servant for Master? Please explain your logic.
Teffec P. said:
PP needs quantifiability. The world is a complex place, and if great wealth is unmeasurable/classified or if intelligence is more than IQ, the gears in his brain stall and his tummy gets upset. Not even talking shit. Such a mindset has its pros, and it’s better to err on the side of rigid adherence to data than magical thinking. There’s just more to it than meets the eye sometimes. Don’t be a shill, PP! Elites don’t love you.
pumpkinperson said:
I’m in the business of doing science and science depends on empirical data. Maybe there are secret Jewish banksters with more money than Bezos, maybe there’s a Sasquatch, maybe aliens built the pyramids, but unless you can prove it, I can’t use it.
I suspect the reason you and Pill reject this is you subscribe to the Great man theory of history. If I say America favours Israel because Jews are statistically overrepresented among the elite, your brain hasn’t evolved a way to process that.
Humans are emotional story tellers so we need a big villain we can put a face on.
You need a grand narrative like the Rothschilds controlling everything like some wizard behind the curtain & when Forbes doesn’t give you that, you reject their entire lists as useless.
Humans are more persuaded by vivid anecdotes than by data, so even though Forbes’s data overwhelmingly supports your theories of incredible Jewish dominance, you’d rather believe there’s one big Jewish trillionaire controlling everything than hundreds of Jewish mere billionaires adding up. Classic example of the Great man bias.
Teffec P. said:
It may be hard for you to understand that conspiracy exists because you have childlike innocence. Or you may be right. Compound interest isn’t a thing and it’s unlikely that people with lots of power don’t see to it that they own those who convey info. People who seek and obtain high-profile positions in government and finance aren’t grasping narcissists. History isn’t shaped by those with power. It’s all honesty and COLLABORATION, not edicts and CONSPIRACY. Hierarchy and greed don’t exist, and nothing happens behind closed doors! Even though intelligence is the ability to adapt, people who get lots of money and power never could nor would shape the world to their advantage!
As a staunch HBDer, you should appreciate that media and academia are corruptible and that elites are full of shit. Come on, PP! It’s not all a fucking coincidence that so many “credentialed” people are in lockstep with complete bullshit.
pumpkinperson said:
So your argument is the truly powerful have the power to hide their power (including wealth).
And yet for some reason *you* know who they are.
They’re so powerful they can manipulate Forbes, yet they’re not powerful enough to keep their names out of the internet conspiracies you read?
If all our information is so manipulated by these powerful conspiracies, what makes you so sure the information you read is immune?
They’re controlling Forbes because they don’t want us to know the extent of Jewish wealth & yet they didn’t know or care that the people they left on the list are overwhelmingly Jewish per capita? More likely they’re hiding in plain sight, allowing themselves to be on the Forbes list but cancelling anyone who makes the ethnic connection.
Maybe the World is run by secret Saudi trillionaires who spend billions spreading conspiracy theories that Jews run everything. Once we decide it’s all fake news we can makeup any narrative we want which is why I don’t like going down these roads.
And if these secret elites you speak of have so much power, why do they need to be richer than Bezos? If I controlled the money supply, the last thing I’d do is put billions of dollars in my personal possession risking scrutiny and suspicion. Much wiser to take out a modest sum and live comfortably under the radar while enjoying all that power. Do you think Putin puts the $70 billion his team allegedly stole in Swiss bank accounts under his name? No he likely spreads it out over hundreds of cronies who are loyal to him in return and allow him to maintain power and stay at their private mansions anytime.
Of course I’m biased because the Forbes list has been useful in supporting my theories.
The Philosopher said:
You accept everything fed to you by the media and follow your role dutifully. A good example is how you don’t question the forbes rankings. You have autism which means you follow Masters rules no matter how destructive they are.
pumpkinperson said:
You accept everything fed to you by the media and follow your role dutifully.
Then why did I oppose the Iraq & Afghanistan war? Why did I reject Russiagate & why do I believe HBD?
A good example is how you don’t question the forbes rankings.
What a dumb example. No mainstream media has done more to expose the ethnic composition of the ruling class than Forbes list. By attacking them you’re a tool for master.
You have autism
According to do independent psychiatrists, you’re the one with “autism”. You’re chronically unemployed which is the biggest correlate of “autism”.
The Philosopher said:
No they don’t expose the elites. How hard is it to understand this?? Me and Paul have told you that they probably leave the big hitters alone possibly by agreement. Forbes NEVER mentions the fact that the list is 35% jewish. The only people that would suss that out are people that read HBD blogs which is <1% of the population.
"According to do independent psychiatrists, you’re the one with “autism”. "
Wrong again. I've been tested for autism and found not to have it. Can you say the same thing? No, of course not because you would be confirmed for autism if you got tested. Both psychiatrists changed their mind after getting to know me better. The main reason they though I had autism was because I am very politically incorrect. They couldn't understand that I say my honest opinions because I'm confident and not afraid to offend Master and incur his wrath unlike you who is a complete sheep and "worships" a cheap magic negro they put in front of you to brainwash you into liking blacks.
pumpkinperson said:
No they don’t expose the elites. How hard is it to understand this?? Me and Paul have told you that they probably leave the big hitters alone possibly by agreement.
You’re missing the forest for the trees, which is a sign of autism. Who cares if some of the details are wrong when the broader picture is overwhelmingly correct. You’re making the perfect the enemy of the good which is an autistic thing to do.
Forbes NEVER mentions the fact that the list is 35% jewish.
The point is scholars who want to explain the ethnic interests of elites now have a credible non-bigoted source. Without the Forbes list you’re reduced to pushing centuries old conspiracy theories that make you look like a loon.
Wrong again. I’ve been tested for autism and found not to have it. Can you say the same thing?
I’ve taken those same pseudoscientific autism questionnaires and while I have more autistic traits than the average Joe, not enough to be diagnosed as autistic.
Both psychiatrists changed their mind after getting to know me better. The main reason they though I had autism was because I am very politically incorrect.
They told you what you wanted to hear so they could keep taking your money.
They couldn’t understand that I say my honest opinions because I’m confident and not afraid to offend Master and incur his wrath unlike you who is a complete sheep and “worships” a cheap magic negro they put in front of you to brainwash you into liking blacks.
You’re the one who believes all races are equal (just good at different things) & denies evolutionary progress. I’m more politically incorrect than you are, I just happen to find Oprah fascinating for statistical reasons that are above your head.
Some Guy said:
You squares with your Forbes list, all the cool kids study the ethnic demographics of the Bloomberg list:
https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/
illuminaticatblog said:
Autist/schizo are just personality types to phill, pumpkin. no need to worry if they are not scientific enough for you.
illuminaticatblog said:
phill just thinks incompetence/error rate is less likely than conspiracy. if people are not on the billionaire list.
he is not wrong. it is just the tendencies of his personality (schizo)
illuminaticatblog said:
now I can’t tell what my brother is (schizo/autistic) but he is not comatose all the time.
Autists have this blank stare like they don’t know what is going on and schizos have this wild look. schizos have distorted reality. schizos are uninhibited.
The Philosopher said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-executives-told-bill-gates-to-stop-emailing-a-female-staffer-years-ago-11634559950?mod=e2li
Poor bill caught with his hands in the cookie jar.
Ganzir said:
My level of g is about as rare as a height of 6’6″, in both cases relative to white American adult males. Does anyone here know anyone who’s 6’6″ or taller? Anyone taller than that themselves?
critical oprah theory said:
mugabe: colin powell was a war criminal. he should’ve died by hanging.
peepee: he was a war criminal, but he was black, therefore hanging him would be racist.
pumpkinperson said:
While the rest of U.S. media was praising Powell’s UN speech, Oprah did A TWO DAY anti-war show that was so controversial, Bush & Powell tried to pre-empt in some markets:
mugabe is der fuhrer of the non-shithole aryans. said:
people who DON’T:
1. live in peepee’s basement.
2. comment on peepee’s blog.
(this is a compliment and not a complement.)
they have nothing interesting to say.
the point is... said:
the nazi worldview is still a legit worldview, despite the incredibly evil shit the nazis did while in power.
theories of history:
1. great men (or great women like jean d’arc or elizabeth i)
2. class/exploited and exploiter (marxism)
3. peoples/interbreeding populations (nazism)
the reality is a combo and a transcendence of all of these.
aka an “aufhebung”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aufheben
the holy cause for the cannonization of mel gibson... said:
miracle #1: the ONLY jewish cop in malibu was the ONE cop who arrested mel gibson.
i wish i could spell. said:
cannonization vs cononization
=
weaponization of SSPX vs autistic spell-checkers.
SSPX is afro’s and mel’s church.
but afro has an excuse.
SSPX is very common in france.
but mugabe would totally go through the RCIA if the SSPX people took over rome.
he’s waiting.
if you have a tattoo i assume you're a moron. said:
so my relatives peepee calls “white trash”…
no tattoos.
wear t-shirt.
high IQs.
my aunt’s husband makes 90+k per year in retirement too.
even though he was just non-techical federal employee.
and he owns land in north dokota he has to pay taxes on, and owns land in pdx.
i’ve learned by painful experience that my “white trash” relatives aren’t very trashy (relative to authentic white trash)…and are only my relatives by marriage.
maybe it was the last time i spoke to him in person... said:
he described some guy in the DA’s office who was about to retire with yuge pension who was a total incompetent…
my dad quit being a prosecutor when reagan…
because he thought the sentencing was EVIL…
so even if the guy was guilty, he felt he couldn’t participate.
my dad also hated trial lawyers/ambulance chasers. he thought they were psychopaths.
so he wasn’t left with much.
he became a divorce lawyer.
but he decided that was evil too.
like father like son.
and btw... said:
my dad was under no illusions, so to say.
he knew there were straight up evil criminals…he met one.
dude had fragged his co in ‘nam.
Teffec P. said:
1-question IQ test:
Which is most likely?
A. PP is an idiot
B. Practically every mainstream academic and media member is an idiot
C. People who control academia and media see to it that people willing to “play the game” are the ones who aren’t cancelled
pumpkinperson said:
C.
illuminaticatblog said:
D.
the true elite don’t care about being canceled by academia and media – they are above the game
The Philosopher said:
WTF I can’t answer Paul’s question truthfully?
pumpkinperson said:
You have autism as confirmed by the initial judgement of two independent psychiatrists so it would be irresponsible for me to let you answer such a socially demanding question. It might cause a seizure.
The Philosopher said:
^^This is how Puppy sleeps at night with his autism
pumpkinperson said:
Nah, I would never sleep with you. Don’t need the AIDS.