I stumbled upon this nice discussion about the human brain with UChicago neuroscientist Bobby Kasthuri. People like commenter RR have argued that the human mind is too miraculous to be explained by biology but it’s more likely that the biology is just incredibly complex. For example, let’s say the average human brain has 86 billion neurons, and each neuron might be connected to 10,000 other neurons. That’s 860000000000000 connections! The reason brain size is moderately correlated with IQ is perhaps because the bigger the brain, the more room there is for more neurons and more connections. In addition, smart brains have more fatty substance surrounding the connections to make them transmit information faster which also takes up space.
But the larger point is if we could map all these 860000000000000 connections we could capture not only your intelligence, but your hopes, dreams, memories, fears, anxieties, passions, sexual fantasies…your very soul, and maybe one day we could upload your consciousness, your “soul” on a computer. An interesting philosophical question is whether we’re uploading you; in my opinion it would not be you because in theory, this could even be done while you’re still alive without you knowing it, which makes it a separate entity.
Anyway, the interview doesn’t go into all that sci-fi stuff but it does discuss the practical problems of mapping brains. You can listen here.
Trumps latest interview is very good. I’ve never seen a person so deft verbally even if the facts and situation make him look poor. Biden will get eviscerated in the debates.
The interview was a disaster your moron. Poor Pill lacks the social IQ to see what everyone else can see so easily:
and yet the mind body problem isn’t even touched and melo, rr, and daniel dennet either have AIDS brain or are robots built in a mossad labratory.
it’s funny how melo and rr think anglo-american-anilingus professors of philosophy are in fact philosophers, whereas pill and mugabe know they are low IQ autistic babies.
The Johnny Depp trial is quite entertaining. Great celeb gossip.
The best way to save the environment is to cut down the number of people. Thanks to idiots like Bill Gates this is now impossible and we could even see District 9 type scenes in Europe as [redacted by pp, July 20, 2020]. What is he thinking???
Why does the public forget the arrogance and contempt of late 90s Bill Gates? Why do they fall for loving grandpapa type, philanthropist Bill Gates? Bill Gates is so, so awkward around regular people. He has no real affection for them, just affectation to conceal his wickedness. I hate it when he acts like a humble retard.
Wheres G-Man? Long time since I saw him.
Youre the most retarded person on this blog. Why does Pumpkin let you write your opinions on mundane topics that have no relevance whatsoever on this blog I will never know but he should stop.
I’m here man…I’m never leaving forever. A lot is going on in the real world so I can’t hang out online too much.
supposing brown retard is conscious, he can become an idealist just by making the nintendo game, “real” world analogy, which he refuses to post because brown-tard.
why if one is not a “respecter of persons” should he be a “respecter of things”? only for the same single reason, that he FEARS those persons or things.
brown retard thinks things are really real because he fears them.
my penis for example.
i challenge peepee to explain the above to rr and thus prove rr can’t identify bullshit even when it’s on his head.
this means that when i say, “this is real and not a dream or an hallucination and i mean that babe” what i’m really saying is, “dreams and hullicinations can’t hurt me. how many times have i died in a dream? but the real world, its persons and things, can hurt me.” that is, it’s real because i FEAR it.
one learns from vedanta, the upanishads, the gita, etc. that purely mental phenomena, like FEAR, should be taken in the same way one takes what he sees and hears and so forth. such incommunicable phenomena as fear and pain are part of “the show” before which atman, brahman, Sein sits.
that is, the mind itself, and the brain are themselves like one’s hands or eyes and ears, merely tools, like a glove one slips out of when he loses his body at the very end and leaves this world.
and it’s not just the latter day religion of the aryans that sees this. the european interpretation of semitic religion makes the distinction between creature and creator, the same as between maya and brahman.
but it is a mark of being a “man” that he is NOT a respecter of persons OR things. he knows he is the measure of all things.
respecter of persons:
n.
someone who treats people according to their rank, status or importance
what matters isn’t what others think of you, but what you think of them.
melo fears my penis qua indicator of masculinity he lacks. “his masculinity” is used as a synonym for junk yard. and hans frank is an example of this fearlessness, or the refusal to be cowed. savitri devi criticized hitler for being too nice.
Silly Pumpkin, don’t you know the mind is literally magic? It’s necessary for the mind but also differences in the mind can’t be selected for by selecting for differences in the brain somehow. Clearly the mind couldn’t have evolved, it must be that all animals just ended up with certain minds and then their bodies evolved to adapt to that mind. We happened to get a good mind, therefore we evolved opposable thumbs, vocal cords etc since so we could take advantage of our minds. All of our ancestors were always as smart as us, they just didn’t have the physical dexterity etc to translate it into building stuff. Yes, even our fish ancestors!
(Note: this is a joke, although no more silly than many of the comments on this blog)
Stop making fun of RR like that. RR is making incredible scientific advances in our understanding of the mind.
Pill is the prototypical retard. He shares his stupid thoughts on everything that is irrelevant to what we’re talking about on this blog. He is a nut job. None of his comments actually hold any weight.
His criticisms of black people are completely discredited by the fact he is a black person in a white persons body always saying stupid shit and getting away with it cuz he has the social awareness to make it seem relevant when it actually pertains to nothing.
Pill is such a bullshitter.
Loaded you just don’t get it. Youre too retarded and frankly, immature. Come back when you hit puberty.
I have a perceptual problem. It has to do with my processing speed being 89 points well my perceptual reasoning is 128 points. This is a discrepancy that is unexplainable without a wired diagram. The transmission of signals between my eyes and brain must be lopsided. And transmission signals within my brain also. But not only am I slow at processing but my working memory is low (95). Verbal is at 121. This makes me feel stuck when contemplating new ideas. it makes me feel like I have ADD because I cannot flesh out ideas inside my own head that I can draw. My mind is being blocked somehow, I cannot work out what to do step by step. My ideas are just too complicated and my working memory is way to low. It is a puzzle, my mind is being blocked and I feel stuck all the time. Why do I feel stuck?
This miswiring I have in my brain is a learning disability. 39 point difference between my highest and lowest scores. I do not know what this means. What do you think it means pumpkin?
I have located my perceptual problem to the upper right periphery of my vision.
It is highly difficult for me to focus in on that area long periods.
It is some kind of “Visual field neglect”.
For some reason, a blockage has occurred that obstructs the path of normal functioning. The path needs to reroute itself causing all sorts of problems.
I will find out more soon.
I took an IQ test and got
Perceptual reasoning 128
Verble reasoning 121
Working memory 95
Processing speed 89
Highest to lowest is a discrepancy of 39 points. 39 points continue a severe learning disability.
The reason for such discrepancies is my vision. I have what is called “visual field neglect”. A pathway is damaged so I have trouble in my upper right field of view. I cannot control my eyes properly so look down a lot never to the upper right.
I suspect the ventral side of my brain is damaged as perceptual reasoning is based on the Doral channel yet is fine.
I can feel the activity around the damaged pathway. It actively blocks my thinking process. I cannot manipulate my thoughts internally. I can manipulate external data but can’t generate from within. This mostly comes from what the ventral stream does which is objects. I cannot manipulate objects in my head coming from inside it. I cannot makeup or draw objects.
My brain feels stuck and I am not sure what to do about it.
I have this horrible OCD shit on my brain the whole time. I have to keep convincing myself about something. Its really fucking annoying. This is one of the main reasons I play video games. Just to stop that weird shit in my brain.
I can see why robert wants to get drunk all the time.
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the so called “mind-body problem” is the same as the “problem of other minds”.
i know what it is to be conscious, and when i wake up from a dreamless sleep i know what it’s like to have been unconscious. so is my dog conscious? if my dog is conscious, is an ant conscious? is phobos, one of mars’s two moons conscious? how can i ever know? no one can experience someone else’s mind, not even if that someone else is john malkovich. and this is not a mere fact, but the nature of having a mind, that one can’t experience any mind but his own, at least not directly, immediately. so supposing so-called “artificial general intelligence”, a true android, were developed, and i could monitor everything that went on in his artificial brain, how could consciousness itself had been produced artificially?
then there is the statment of my chemistry prof. “atoms are perfect.” and aristotle’s theory of “substances”. and einstein’s statement, “The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is at all comprehensible.” so by “idealism” i mean plato’s idea-lism. that is, the one thing natural science has demonstrated over and over again is that the physical universe is an idea, a mathematical object.
and then one sees that his philosophy of mathematics applies to his philosophy of mind. most mathematicians are platonists in that they regard the facts of mathematics as discoveries in a real world. but a minority are not platonists and regard mathematics as a creation of the human mind. but is there a difference between these two? if the stuff of this sublunary realm is mind stuff, in whose mind does it all reside?
i prefer heidgger’s theory of truth, ἀλήθεια, the light of Sein shone on the eternal mind’s own creation.
And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
A pulse in the eternal mind
“but is there a difference between these two?”
One is an epistemic approach while the other posits some kind of fundamental mathematical ontology.
What Mugabe fails to realize, because faggot, is that nobody disagrees with idealism on the level that all knowledge is realized through the mind.
That’s just obvious, but also very weak and ultimately subservient to physicalism.
If his IQ was in the double digits, he might be worth responding to LOL.
total misinterpretation as usual because low IQ russia-gater.
just word games.
no one with an IQ over 100 is a physicalist.
“That’s just obvious, but also very weak and ultimately subservient to physicalism.”
When someone posits the epistemic view of math as an axiom, they have already arrived at a conclusion just like someone who posits the ontological view (mathematics being the most fundamental level of reality or something along those lines) as an axiom arrives to his or her own conclusions from the get go. It is so easy when we have established the desired end goal as the axiom!
At base level, the brain is just a bunch of circuits that loop together.
The hard problem then comes as this:
electric Loops made of atoms when stimulated produce the sensations hot and cold.
why theses sensations at all in loops?
if loops are consciousness we can map all loop structures to corresponding states
but why? what causes the loop state to become qualia?
Yeah I talked about this in the philosophy part of my guest post. A lot of the “mind-body problem” is just as result of ignorance that stems from the complexity of the issue at hand.
Still waiting on RR unfortunately.
there is no complexity. only a low IQ person would say that.
“There is no complexity. only a low IQ person would say that.”
-some retard, 2020
Your guest post was 3000 words about nothing. I still don’t know whether you believe the same things as RR.
If Philo knew how to read, people wouldn’t think he was so idiotic.
Dumb and dumber remind me of those kids in school who would say they had a girlfriend, she just went to a different school.
low IQ brown midgets and [redacted by pp, July 20, 2020] may confuse “neutral monism”, “objective idealism”, and “panpsychism” with “physicalism”.
but at least they’re on the right track. “physicalism” is either self-contradictory or meaningless. but whichever it’s absurd and only espoused by low IQ autistic babies for political reasons.
Oh my god here we go again. The Financial times is reporting that Russia hacked the UK elections to give us Brexit. Hahahaha. Somewhere a half filipino british guy is clenching his fist and cursing those darn ruskies!
Well since Philo doesn’t believe it, that must mean it’s true. It’s like using the PCR to predict the trajectory of the stock market.
I mean don’t all relevant governments try to influence other relevant (and irrelevant) governments? The only ones who don’t get to play around are the irrelevant governments who only get to be toyed around with.
Exactly! Philo is so stupid he believes in a deep state conspiracy but thinks Russiagate is too far fetched! Like how dumb can you be?
I don’t think it is necessarily about stupidity. More like one sided views of things enforced by certain ‘rules’ that people set for limiting themselves- it can get even otherwise smart people to do strange stuff.
And for the record, I agree with Philo about the deep state stuff. I am likely among the most conspiratorial out of the lot here.
That’s fine, I’m just saying to have that lack of self awareness and then have the audacity to question someone’s intelligence is appalling.
Trust me Pill isnt smart at all…i mean at all at all.
you’re only saying that because he’s not a pakistani.
the second defense counsel has asked that the charges against his client be dropped. the gag order has been lifted and all the defense attorneys want cameras in the courtroom and body cam footage released to the public, because…they know what i knew a week after the event.
That’s fine, I’m just saying to have that lack of self awareness and then have the audacity to question someone’s intelligence is appalling.
indeed!