Loved ones keep begging to go out for a walk and get some fresh air. They say it’s not good for me to be hiding in the house all day and that I need exposure to the sun. I went for a half hour walk yesterday but spent most of my time on the road because I didn’t want to pass other humans on the sidewalk. But even when no one else is around, I’m still not sure if it’s safe to walk. What if this virus stays in the air just waiting for someone to walk through it?
This whole thing could have been minimized if we had just stopped international travel a few weeks earlier. Virtually every case in my city was brought here by someone traveling abroad.
I wonder if our failure to contain this thing is evidence of dysgenics?
It’s during times like this we see who are the truly intelligent. It’s the people who can adapt the situation to our advantage by making masks, test kits, ventilators, developing vaccines, and pushing common sense public policy.
The great writers, artists and philosophers may think they’re the most intelligent, but they’re not the ones who can save us.
this is the best picture i could find for rr online.
https://www.deviantart.com/kikichunt/art/mop-head-17253895
this is the best picture of peepee i could find online.

No that’s a photo of you, given your crush on Denzel
yetsreday hakuho won his 44th basho and with no audience.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2020/03/22/sumo/basho-reports/hakuho-outlasts-kakuryu-win-44th-emperors-cup#.XnkHs-l7nVM
so now the freaks of sport are:
gretzky, some guy i can’t remember, and hakuho.
that is, it’s not just that they’re the best in their sport.
it’s that the next best SUCKS in comparison.
trying to ‘member.
obviously “some guy” isn’t secretariat, because even gretzky sucks in comparison to big red.
that is, it’s not just that they’re the best in their sport.
it’s that the next best SUCKS in comparison.
I’d include Cobb
This interest in sumo you’ve had is very weird.
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Take it easy on the amphetamines. Once you get hooked you’re FUCKED. Quitting was the hardest thing I’ve ever done.
Who the fuck is this guy talking to? I definitely don’t take amphetamines, dunno why you would imply that.
This interest in sumo you’ve had is very weird.
no! you have autism and AIDS.
the point is it’s EXTREME and SIMPLE.
like sprinting.
sumos sacrifice 15+ years of life expectancy to win.
it’s like if professional restling was REAL.
the jhu “dashboard” claims new cases are falling everywhere except the US.
but falling to zero new cases for 24 hours may not be enough to end the quarantine.
the chinese still haven’t ended it in wuhan. they want 2 weeks of no new cases.
of course the 3 month was higher than the 10 year about a year ago so a recession was fated anyway, but…
now there’s deliberate over-reaction by the fed and the feds in all countries.
and then there’s the finger wagging at china.
the ultimate origin of the virus may have yuge consequences for sino-american relations.
as tcuker carlson has said, “they’re are lots of things i can’t say and don’t…eating dogs is DISGUSTING!”
20,000 years before there were cows and pigs and goats and chickens (and cats) and wheat and rice and beans and…
there was the dog.
to be human is to love a dog.
larry summers has always agreed and paul krugman agreed 15 years ago.
“What if this virus stays in the air just waiting for someone to walk through it?”
It lives for a few hours in the air.
This shit sucks. Gyms are closed, I got laid off my one job yesterday because NYC shut down all nonessential businesses which means less work for me. So that’s two jobs in one week because of coronavirus. Thankfully I have another backup but I think I’m going to work as much as possible for 3 weeks then hunker down until June. This is really scaring me. (As I type this I see the second Burger King commercial about coronavirus.)
This is a new world now. A Corona world.
Laid off? I thought you were self-employed?
Yea and gyms are closed. I anticipated something like this happening a few weeks ago so I started something else in the day time while but since NY/NJ closed down there’s less work so I got laid off. My fridge is stocked with meat, beer, cigs, I have green. I have money saved. I think the best course of action now is to stay in for a month or two and assess from there. This is getting really bad and it’s only going to get worse by April.
I just want a pizza badly. They just said on CNN it’s okay to order food as long as the delivery guy leaves it at your door, but what if the cook has the virus?
So just order pizza. I’m very cautious too and have overthought things the last week like that but fuck it, I’m going to try to live relatively normal but I’m going to be very cautious. I really think this could change how we live and interact with each other.
cigs?
a personal trainer who smokes?
why do you keep them in your frig?
the hysteria is going to kill more people indirectly than the virus would have.
the madness of crowds.
i’ve had pneumonia twice. you’re both being fags.
the best evidence is from south korea. this thing only has a 0.6% kill rate for south koreans. why would italians be so much more vulnerable? they wouldn’t be. the kill rate for italians < 60 is less than for chinese and koreans.
so i'm guessing it's due to a lifetime of smoking and having a beard…hence 75% of the italian kills are men.
Even if it doesn’t kill you it can hospitalize you & leave permanent damage.
but then in both cases i wasn’t hospitalized. i was just given antibiotics.
and a doctor told me later that it was probably just the flu and i was misdiagnosed.
my brother’s had it 3 times supposedly.
i have a history of asthma and i have very long lungs because long torso, so this may predispose.
for pneumonia in general:
In persons requiring hospitalization, mortality may be as high as 10%, and in those requiring intensive care it may reach 30–50%.[21] Pneumonia is the most common hospital-acquired infection that causes death.
so the TRUE figure depends on how representative the tested population is.
It hit Italy so hard because of the age of the population and 99 percent had other ailments. (They also have a high population of smokers.)
I’m thinking about locking in soon.
also, they hug and kiss a lot
And there were adverts to “Hug a Chinese person” a few months back. Look at how that turned out…
Then again:
Cao et al (2020) conclude: “The East Asian populations have much higher AFs [allele frequencies] in the eQTL variants associated with higher ACE2 expression in tissues (Fig. 1c), which may suggest different susceptibility or response to 2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2 from different populations under the similar conditions.” Asian men smoke more cigarettes than Asian women (Ma et al, 2002, 2004; Chae, Gavin, and Takeuchi, 2006; Tsai et al, 2008). In your lungs you have what is called “cilia fibers’ and these fibers move debris and microbes out while they also protect the bronchus and trap microorganisms. COVID-19 attacks these same cilia fibers that degrade when one smokes. Therefore, the fact that East Asian populations have higher allele frequencies in ACE2 expression tissues along with higher rates of smoking may be why Asian men seem to be affected more than Asian women. In any case, smokers of any race need to exercise caution.
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2020/03/22/life-in-the-time-of-corona/
a wannbe caveman mentions he has “money saved up” and is worried about the bat flu is FUCKING PATHETIC.
CUT YOUR HAIR AND SHAVE YOUR BEARD NOW YOU FUCKING GIRLY MAN!
YOU COULD NEVER BE A LEGIT CAVE MAN!
that is, a true caveman has no savings except maybe smoked meat…but he doesn’t need any savings and has no use for money, because he can live off the land…
https://archive.li/2yiUO
I wonder if China’s failure to contain this thing is evidence of chinese dysgenics?
ftfy
Poor Pumpkin Person. He has to choose either black or yellow. The Chinese hate blacks the most. Hell, they hate humanity.
Pumpkin said that intelligent people aren’t racist. I guess China isn’t smart at all. Esp. if they’re racist against all mankind.
I think apes are getting smarter because the dumber ones are more likely to get poached or put in zoos.
Apes just entered the Stone Age a few years ago…
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150818-chimps-living-in-the-stone-age
These types of scenarios are so lazy. “X is Y cuz Z died out which didn’t have what X had.”
rr must appreciate that if anyone always reasoned by marquess of queensburry rules he’d be homeless.
the heart knows what the mind cannot understand.
How would someone “turn such a situation to their advantage,” I wonder?
Racial awareness and stuff. Because as HBDers we are so conscious of race we forget we’re the absolute most socially intelligent people out there.
There are no real autistic HBDers or racialists. This is obviously the reason as to why we can navigate a significant portion of the world with ease. People who don’t see race are generally autistic, like Trevor Noah, Jews, and John Oliver. Other liberals have covert racism but not any actual racism. Liberals are fundamentally prone to identifying with it for other reasons aside from race. Liberals do value equality over everything because that is how they thrive in their hedonic treadmill.
You didn’t even answer his question. What’s your viq loaded 10?
I said people that are racially aware will be the ones to come out on top. My reading comprehension is just fine, thank you.
I was thinking abstractly when answering that question but I think there’s grounds to say that people that are more aware of things going on in the general public will be more likely to thrive! That’s a pretty easy statement to make too.
Hmm I guess by being a charlatan and selling “quick fix” cures like people in the nutrition world are doing? What a shitty field.
Why are all my comments moderated in the last thread. Even the ones just on the economy?
I made comments on how mugabe is a communist and that deserves moderation?
did you ever take that bain iq test?
there’s a YUGE lyric…
and if i didn’t think it was worth one single try…
i’d jump right on a big bird and then i’d fly.
discuss amongst yourselves the Cynical meaning of this lyric.
I didn’t make money from it – I thought about shorting stocks but at the end didn’t do it ! – but I sold off every stocks I had and so did my mum and my girlfriend. I think I was a bit confronted in this movement thanks to LoB piece of advice. That has been a very fortunate move. I think I am good at keeping but lack the drive to be very rich (I missed the bitcoin opportunity despite having seen the opportunity in 2009). But among the three of us, it’s quite a big amount of wealth that have been saved.
I also bought 120 FFP1 mask in a DIY store (first time
I went there, I thought about buying FFP3 on amazon but didn’t !) and 5l of hydro-alcoholic gel in a pharmacy .
I often think about all the people losing their income and jobs and it makes me sad for them. I have the empathy but in an abstract way because I don’t read faces and feelings.
Contrary to many Introverts/autist people, I love the crowd. And even if I can do without it for a long period of time, I don’t like the probability that Parisian life will be less « close », because people will be scarred of each other for some time … I love reading in terrasse and hearing people conversations and watch them walk in the street. Same in airports.
Good example of the conspiracy in the media
^^^GAY^^^
Interesting study:
“Racial IQ Differences among Transracial Adoptees: Fact or Artifact?”
https://www.mdpi.com/2079-3200/5/1/1/htm
the author is guilty of p hacking
Elaborate.
Pumpkin, have you seen this?
At the restaurant, the cook and the delivery person sign their names, and check a box indicating that their temperature is normal. They have to measure every hour.
As you travel around the city, your temperature is taken and you scan qrcodes indicating where you’ve been.
I have difficulty imagining the USA implementing these measures.
East Asian countries have crushed the spread of the virus. The western world has not.
I’m not sure china has it under control. They always lie about official stats. Also, I bet north korea has an epidemic and its just not been reported.
i see 4 possibilities for this thing:
1. it goes away and no one knows why. this is what happened with the spanish flu.
2. global shut down for a month and it goes away.
3. global shut down for a month and it comes back.
4. no global shutdown and it goes on and on and on and on…
tolstoy died from guilt.
this is a great song by a fag…from the bottom of the depression.
what i think of HER.
HER the movie or what?
Best movie is American Psycho. I love Patrick Bateman, the ultimate paranoid psychopathic serial killer.
Other movies to watch are the Johnny Depp “Sleepy Hallow,” “Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies,” “the Last of the Mohicans,” and finally “the Da Vinci Code.”
Just a short list. The ultimate misanthropic cinephile. If you need more, lemme know, I’m dat plug nigga.
Would be interested to see Bill Maher viewer numbers over the past say 5 years and whether they’ve been going up or down.
I used to watch it regularly back when I was a liberal.
“I used to watch it regularly back when I was a liberal.”
When was that?
I didn’t know what autism was until basically my mid 20s when I was already working in London. And only then did I realise that a friend of mine since my teen years definitely had it. I always had an interest in psychology though. It was my first choice on my college application list.
Trump has botched handling the virus but since americans have the attention span and memory of gnats nobody has noticed.
They just don’t get it. Nobody ever wonders why children tease gay children???? Why is that the universal default? Surely there must be some reason behind it…Dr Phil tries to get us to empathise with people with severe mental illness.
I don’t have a problem with the people. I have a problem with the illness. Just like I don’t like AIDS or cancer or whatever.
If you feel the need to look at other men in a certain way what the fuck do you expect reasonable sane men around the world to think? Of course they are going to make fun of you.
Your over the top homophobia makes it pretty obvious you’re in the closet yourself. Ironic you lack the social IQ to see that.
Where do you draw the line? Are straight guys who like getting rimmed/pegged mentally too?
Its a pity santo isnt around. Id like to ask him how he felt on this day.
EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP! I just got the coronavirus.
Oh my God what happened?
This exchange has happened at least 3 times.
Where Marsha has said “EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP! I just X”.
And then Pumpkin has replied “Oh my god what happened?”
Mugabe may be onto something here.
Way more than 3 times. That’s my stock reply to her drama.
but purtpotedly Marsha (or whoever this individual is) has a genius IQ. very interesting….
A lot of high IQ people (Marsha, Lion) live in NYC where coranavirus risk is especially acute.
If you think “Marsha” is a “genius”…hahaha
Remember kids there are no women on the internet.
If Marsha’s a whore, she is not a genius.
Eh that’s not entirely true. I think some women use their sex appeal to gain power. Which is intelligent. But Marsha is clearly a troll account. If not, then she’s just psychotic.
I was going to ask you puppy to email marsha and get her back on here. It would be more interesting if Marsha actually left comments more than 5 words long in order to demonstrate her alleged 170 IQ.
Did you find a good home for your AIDS baby?
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.bQVVt7J-bai1E1P1ykCBEAAAAA&pid=Api&P=0&w=294&h=171
The fucking market selloff continues. As Sailer noted, this pretty much proves that the efficient market hypothesis is one of the dumbest ideas ever.
What wasn’t priced in before today? Or is it momentum trading/jimmy’s algos.
canada has no “elite” colleges. not even mcgill.
but if i were an 18 year old canadian i’d choose UBC.
UofT is an elite institution
AGREE.
I thought colleges were supposed to be elite institutions.
yeah…there were kids in my school who plaeydd at being old money…my city has a polo club and a $30,000 a year golf club…
that’s NOT me.
Social media in this very day and age and almost all content put out by humans is the most toxic and sadistic quality of posts anyone can make.
It’s a universal truth that our descendants will see and be ashamed of. Hopefully at least.
J.K. Rowling and other authors have a very creative imagination. So do movie-makers. Also social media influencers. In a capitalistic world, you realize the geniuses of the modern-day are multifaceted and polymathical creators of content. Such creativity in this world and most of it is used for the competitive drive of humans. Saddening.
Your comments don’t even make sense….
Your verbal IQ is just too low to understand.
What is everyone’s opinion that the coronavirus originated from the United States? Apparently what some conspiracy theories claim is that there are five strains of the coronavirus in the US, while there are only two strains in the rest of World. They argue that since the coronavirus is most genetically diverse in the US, it must be the origin point from which all other strains developed from. Doing my own brief independent research, I couldn’t verify if this was true. There are other claims as well, but they seem mostly coincidental, including that the US military participated in some Wuhan military athletic competition (and performed surprisingly bad) right before cases started to appear and that China and Iran were hit particularly hard (no longer the case for China).
But this conspiracy theory is gaining traction in China and Iran, and it seems like it will only continue to grow in significance as things play out.
The virus came from the unhygienic open markets in China, just like the SARS virus. There’s even an old research paper kicking around saying that this exact practice is a ticking time bomb for other viruses in the future.
Blaming in on the US Military is a clumsy, heavy handed attempt at propaganda. This is coming from the same state that arrested and silenced doctors who first warned about the virus spreading.
Yup 2007 study that stated the coronaviruses like to go under genetic recombination and that if the Chinese keep up with their love of exotic animals as food there could be a real problem.
No doubt a Jewish plot. Obviously breadcrumbs are being left for Chinese authorities to make them conclude that the US is culpable. The Chinese are their biggest threat for world domination and they’ll use the US to do their dirty by starting yet another world war.
This may not be ironic.
Yeah its not the US that made this. It doesn’t make much sense to use a biological weapon that could blowback onto your own people.
Now, AIDS in the US gay population is probably a more realistic conspiracy. I.e. I’m of the belief the US authorities gave AIDS to gays just like they gave syphillis on purpose to blacks (look it up).
“What is everyone’s opinion that the coronavirus originated from the United States?”
“But this conspiracy theory is gaining traction in China”
Nice try CPC.
What is the IQ of a misanthrope?
145+. I’m living proof.
Hahahahah. Good ol Loaded.
What haha, I’m a misanthrope what can I say? People are bad, real bad. I am good, real good! No denying this social construct.
So Dirt Rally 2 is getting a 55GB update today. What on earth could possibly require that much data? Thats the size of a new game.
Anyone play Destiny 2?
Almost downloaded it. I liked the first one I just don’t know if I want to invest. It sucks I love video games just as much as when I was a kid but I simply don’t have a lot of time for it anymore
I’m kind of ashamed to admit it but I’ve been really into fortnite lately. My buddies nephew downloaded it on my ps4. I got bored one day and tried it out. And I’m really good at it. Which I guess is not a surprise because I’ve always been good at Shooting games
Destiny 2 is basically a much better version of Destiny 1. But they rip you off on all the expansions and DLC content. If you buy all the content it will keep you occupied for the whole year though.
So I finished my contract at Citi and got a new job at my country’s Central bank supervising investment banks. Yay.
I’m pretty certain Donald Trump was the first time in living memory that bankers haven’t named the presidents cabinet for him.
I’ve always wondered whether insider trading really should be a criminal act.
I don’t think very much would change. The best information would go to the highest bidder like it does now (i.e. PMs who manage gazillions of dollars).
And the asset prices themselves would probably be more stable bc they contain more information.
I guess it dis-incentivizes being loyal to your company and it might promote a conflict of interest at the highest levels, but I’m sure you can legislate around that. And genuinely good/bad news is bound to come out at some point anyway.
Pumpkin can you please send me something regarding high processing speed and abilities that come with it. I already looked into babe Ruth .
Processing speed is correlated with risk-taking according to a lot of studies. It’s a risk to do something quickly so it would naturally fit.
I’m guessing high processing speed and low fluid reasoning is dangerous.Pumpkin please provide links on high processing speed that are interesting.
I have modest processing speed at 114. 120 digit symbol and 105 cancellation. Probably would of done better on cancellation if it wasn’t for my adhd like/anxiety self conscious mind that drops my iq by 20 points.
“The IQ game is the use of assumptions that are implausible as well as arbitrary to arrive at some numerical value for the genetic heritability of human IQ scores on the grounds that no heritability calculations could be made without…such assumptions. The reasoning is…circular.” (Howard Taylor, The IQ Game)
This isn’t circular.
Is this internet blackout shit true?
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/mar/25/kanye-west-donald-trump-support
This guy is a legit schizo and hes very amusing.
So the economist magazine reports Lloyds of London is facing huge payouts to industry over the virus. I told you Robert this stuff was fucking insurable.
i never said it wasn’t you retarded faggot.
i said:
1. a guy on tucker said pandemic isn’t covered by business interruption insurance.
2. big companies can only insure themselves. no insurance company is big enough to insure them.
but in some libertarian paradise without a fed…the biggest companies would be insurance companies…because they’d have to play the role of the fed and the feds…and so libertarian paradise corresponds to a world where actuaries are cool…
but libertarian paradise is a pipe dream of some chinese heroin addict who boils dogs alive.
The US stimulus is a good response but I think the virus in the US is just getting started. Thanks to trumps idiocy of saying they shouldnt test because the number of cases will look bad I bet the US has this pandemic going for at least a year.
Lion of the Blgosphere has more or less stopped posting because of frustration with idiot commenters denying Corona which is annoying because he was one of my main sources of legit information on this topic. i wonder why so many HBDers and other related types are suspicious of the Coronavirus, especially considering many of them are smart and have science backgrounds.
with that said, i can imagine an alternate reality where I would not be reading blogs like Lion’s and this one, where my innate suspicious instincts towards the media and certain authorities, and low conscientiousness would probably cause me to disregard the whole Corona thing as a hoax. which it obviously isnt, but because it hasn’t become apocalyptic level bad and i only know a few fellow students who got sick, none of them a close friend, it wouldnt seem that serious to me.
Lions who want prole reduction numbers know that this corona germ is inflicting the most pain on the groups that HBDers and LoftB followers with a Darwinian bent dislike with a passion. To a certain extent, those who are easily privileged just because of wealth inheritance are equally disliked in a crisis such as this, along with those who actively want to be like them.
By the way, high IQ Askenazis aren’t much spared from this corona gem. The so called “diamonds in the rough” types who are lauded for their “intelligence” and their over-representation in the Ivy Leagues purportedly at the expense of others, including those who are of better pedigree and long standing wealth, found themselves in this tragedy in the various regions of NYS and NYC.
now retarded people think that quantavius easing will cause inflation because retarded.
it’s NOT as if there isn’t precedent.
JAPANIFICATION isn’t just an idea motherfucker!!!
mugabe would bet everything on…
the term “japanifiaction” will increase by about 10x in the next two years.
I will be posting my DNA ancestry results in the comment below this one. You may find it interesting because I tested with both 23andMe and AncestryDNA. If you want to know what the DNA results for a “pure” Polish person looks like, in the sense that all of whose grandparents and great-grandparents were born within Poland, this is for you because mine were
These are my dna results. In FtDNA, it also states I’m >2% Ashkenazi and >1% Native and Siberian.
Have you looked at your ancient origins ?
I am 42% Hunter Gatherer. 50% farmer. 8% metal age Invader. Despite being R1B wich is typically metal age invader .
For Geography, It’s says 62% Iberian of wich 32 points Basque. 14% British Isles. 13% Scandinavian. 7% Italy. 3% outside Europe : 1% sub-saharian Africa . 1% Middle East. 1% Central Asia. No French …
Another site says I am 45% French !
It changes often … doesn’t seem highly reliable.
Is hunter-gatherer cromagnon man?
“Is hunter-gatherer cromagnon man?”
Depends which site he used. Bruno which site did you upload your genome?
Yeah, my ancient DNA, Bruno, puts me at 58%, 24% farmer, and the rest is non-European. No documentation of any hunter-gatherer dna, tbh.
Cro-Magnon is the Caucasus or western hunger-gatherer. There are also two other sub-groups Scandinavian/Baltic H-G and eastern H-G. The Eastern constituted the ancestors of metal age invaders.
Familytreedna doesn’t explain but I believe Eastern H-G is packed with Metal age. But Baltic H-G goes with W H-G. So cro-magnon would be one of the two groups.
Looking at the stats, it’s seem that southern people have only 5% H-G (a bit more for basques around 15%) wich must be Cro-Magnon and balts and Scandinavian have around 40% and 25% respectively (probably the Baltic one). In remember reading the expression polish and Italian H-G. Both were in Spain but disappeared with farmers and metal age invasions …
Sorry, meant to say 58% Metal Age Invader. I did an Ancient Ancestry report from Genomelink and they verified that I only have a measly 2% HG DNA.
iirc the basque have a much higher cro-magnon admixture than surrounding peoples or any europeans except the fins and balts.
yes obviously. hg means europeans prior to invasion by beautiful italian women farmers and the invaders are the indo-europeans/aryans…a small fraction of every extant people.
@Bruno
“Cro-Magnon is the Caucasus or western hunger-gatherer.”
Nah. Cro-Magnon refers to the samples from the Cro Magnon rock shelter. Back before ancient DNA studies were a thing, people used to think that all Pleistocene hunter gatherers of Europe were a general common population, but modern genetics show that the Aurigncian-Magdalenians of western Europe were distinct from WHGs. This is primarily because the Aurignacian component, while west Eurasian, isn’t WHG, It is a different kind of west Eurasian which first mixed with WHGs to make Magdalenians and then got flooded over time by more WHGs to the point where WHGs made the majority of western European hunter-gatherer ancestry by the mesolithic. The Aurignacians became a minority component in their own lands. So far, pure WHGs have been found in Italy in both Grotta Continenza and Sicily during both the upper paleolithic and early mesolithic. Eastern Europe is a different story entirely with ANE intruding into what seemed to have been WHG lands to produce EHGs. Today northern Europeans have more EHG than WHG as far as I know.
CHG was WHG + basal Eurasian + ANE. More specifically Dzudzuana (WHG + basal) + more basal + ANE.
My answer was for the taxonomy of the site
« ancient origin » classification only. They have only 4 categories : metal age, Farmer, Hunter Gatherer and Non european.
I am 0% non european on ancient origin.
I ve tried all those sites :23andme, familtrytree, ancestrydna, myheritage and gedmatch and a bunch of others less known specialized in Y-Dna or MtDna. 2 by buying the tests. Other by transfer.
My H-G is confirmed also by the differents gedmatch apps. It’s astonishing to be so highly primitive while not Estonian nor Finnish !
And my Mtdna is subsaharian african ! Sometimes I think about this woman who must have been brought as a slave by phenician or Roman and who is my x mother’s mother …. while my Y-Dna is Viking settling in Inverness or Hebrides …
@Bruno
To get a more insightful understanding, you could ask Davidski from Eurogenes to turn your autosomal DNA data into global25 coordinates, then you can use your coordinates to model yourself as various combinations of ancient populations. These coordinates are available on the global25 datasheets. The smaller the fit the better the result is. Typically you want a fit value of less than 3. Getting large ones like 6+ don’t tell you much other than basic qualitative stuff.
Keep in mind that the input and the target (you) should not be more than 10,000 years apart. Or else the results, even with decent fits, may not necessarily relate to actual composition. If you wanted to go deeper then you could do something like this:
-Model yourself using bronze age samples
-Model those bronze age samples using neolithic samples
-Model neolithic samples using mesolithic samples
-Model mesolithic samples using late upper paleolithic ones.
It doesn’t go much deeper than that because there are very few pre-late upper paleolithic samples and they are tens of thousands of years apart from one another. But if you get lucky, you could have a good idea of how your ancestry evolved from the late upper paleolithic/mesolithic to the present, that too with a decent degree of confidence. Old gedmatch calculators give results that translate to fit values of over 10 so they aren’t telling you much.
Thanks Flaminhotcheetos. l’ll try to do just that !
Also, MyHeritage corroborates my FtDNA results. Interesting stuff, amirite?
I like it LOADED but I don’t know whether to think of you as my brethren or not. Are South Asians Caucasoids or not? Look at this image.

Well, South Central Asians are caucasoid for sure. I would say North and West Indians as well! But south and East Indians are more likely to be Australoid or have Australoid influence. Overall, I’m very Caucasoid though, with a significant amount of Turkish and Pathan ancestry, both probably arriving from the Caucus itself!
Do you know if you have any Caucus ancestry seeing as though your main derivative is from Eastern Europe?
“Are South Asians Caucasoids or not?”
Since pluralism is true regarding the race debate, there is no one concrete answer the the question of what race is and if it is relevant in real life contexts. It does presuppose however, that there is one correct answer to the question. Spencer takes it further and makes it “radically pluralist” meaning that pluralist tenets are accepted, but adds that there is no single dominant answer to what race is but there is still one dominantly correct answer. Spencer then successfully argues that the main “race talk” as he calls it is his OMB race theory.
Now what does the OMB say about South Asians and does the OMB theory say about them?
The OMB itself talks about South Asians as being part white and part Asian but not Asian alone. The OMB placed Pakistan and India in Asia, so there is a mismatch between what OMB race talk means when it refers to Asians and what East Asian means in OMB race theory. So the group of people that the OMB attempts to pick out—Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Pakistanis, Indians—is different from the group of people which are counted as East Asian—Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Filipinos. So, Spencer says, South Asians are East Asians according to OMB race theory because they are racial admixed.
Rosenberg et al 2002 also showed that Kalash Pakistanis are 99 percent Caucasian but the OMB would classify them as only Asian.
So the answer to the question depends on the racial theory one uses.
some south indians are more akin to abos and melanesians or a mix of caucasoid and abo. this according to spencer wells and facial skeleton. and i’m NOT talking about andamans.
In my initial ancestry results from Ancestry DNA, I got 2% Melanesian, specifically Papuan. My uncle looks very Melanesian too on my mother’s side, though with some Caucasoid influence present.
does rr have any idea how utterly ridiculous he is?
if yes then he’s hilarious.
if no then he’s very sad and needs “help” desperately.
RR is like Chris langan level genius. Always trying to figure out the universal meaning behind a concept that involves all his sources of knowledge. And then he comes up with these crazy associations, or what I call linkages, that testify his universal reason behind everything.
Its a bit scary now that Trump is president because he has ADD and won’t be a good crisis manager.
I wanted a president who was racist AND competent. Preferably competent at being a racist and pursuing racist policies.
Ridley Scott and his creative motives for deadly organisms in outer space thinks Trump is an idiot for underplaying the Coronavirus scare like a sci-fi horror skit.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/mar/27/ridley-scott-coronavirus-donald-trump-nutcase-boris-johnson-rationing
i remember in my research group there was this indian post doc who had the abo facial skeleton but he had an effing yuge head. YUGE!
the effing yuge head was what the best all had…white dudes with yuge heads too…
1. as thiel has observed, “scientists who aren’t phsysicists may suck at math (relatively)”…
2. organic chemistry is especially HATED by math centered people (like me), BUT…
3. synthetic organic chemistry is the one field which seems to combine super-human PIQ with super-human memory (VIQ) of all the reactions which might be useful…
“making molecules” is a trade more than a science…
but it’s very very hard!
i mean if you can make molecules…
the sunthetic o-chem profs are the most…
this guy is biologically impressive…
wouldn’t be surprised if they also had large penises.
My mom got her post doc in organic chem in the US. One in Karachi before that too. Now she’s a director of a sector of a large, international biotech company thanks to her getting her MBA years after her post doc. The company is trying to make a breakthrough in Alzheimer’s medicine.