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pumpkin person rating: 9/10
I recently watched Luce (2019) and I proclaim it one of the best films of the year. The film is about a light skinned African child soldier who is adopted by upper-class white parents and blossoms into the star of his high school. The white teachers and peers crown him their Golden boy because he is bright, articulate, polite, athletic, and has a nice smile. He is constantly asked to give speeches to the entire school, and much like Obama, held up as an example of the American dream.
However his history teacher, portrayed flawlessly by Octavia Spencer, begins to worry that Luce is too good to be true. As a dark skinned overweight black woman like Oprah, she had to claw her way up the ladder using hard work and brains, not having the luxury of being a light skinned male with upper-class white parents.
Realizing this teacher is a problem, he mysteriously starts charming her mentally ill younger sister, even suggesting the teacher invite her to school to see one of his speeches.
Of course the last thing this dignified teacher wants is for the white suburban school to know she has a schizophrenic sister with what appears to be an IQ around 70, resulting in one of the most graphic and humiliating scenes in movie history.
Was this all part of Luce’s master plan? The film doesn’t say, forcing the viewer to decide whether Luce is a misunderstood victim of society’s expectations, or a charming sociopath manipulating everyone.
The film is so good that a racist might assume it was written and directed by whites, but in fact the director and writers are black. When I learned this, I immediately suspected (correctly) that the director and co-writer was born in Africa, because such talent is more likely to be found among elite immigrants than the native population of any race.
However the Nigerian director (Julius Onah) gives much of the credit to his co-writer JC Lee who looks like a scrawny giggling Australian aboriginal with ripped jeans, though I suspect he’s African American.
Pumpkin Person 
the only “luce” that comes to mind is “claire booth luce”.
iirc she had something to do with newspapers.
mass media used to be more goyish.
but it still sucked.
an interesting question is are there any un-mixed anglo-indians left?
like the bajan red legs they might be dirt poor.
of course if the mixed with kashmiris it might be hard to tell.
at peak there were about 200,000 british in the raj.
did 100% leave?
reminds me how my “alt-right” is just my standing ovation for the mahatma.
mmm…
and verwoerd.
because however much you HATE your brother and sister and father and mother…
they are your brother and sister and father and mother…
Why are you obsessed with blacks?
Maybe puppy is half black.
I think it’s virtue signalling to compensate for his un-PC views on African IQ, like his gushing adulation for Oprah.
what i imagine was the first salvo in the hd war on my brain…
a psychiatirst told me…
my dad told me…
my aunt told me…
“you should call this girl.”
a psychologist told me…
maybe don’t do that.
why?
because physically i’m a sexbot/male model.
Occasio Cortez. Oh yes I would.
Finlands new ok isn’t bad either.
Merkel is hideous just like her globalist politics.
New PM
Dear White People – puppy what the fuck were you smoking when you decided to watch that?!
Watched The Departed last night. 7/10. No one would remember it if ’06 wasn’t such a bad year for movies.
Someone got that as a present for me 1 christmas and I got a refund on it pretty soon.
i think my dog is trying to make a scale model of passchendaele or he’s trying to dig to china to free his fellow dogs…
when people get rich they have fewer babies and get tight on the regular.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-17/the-world-s-most-valuable-distiller-is-running-out-of-liquor
I’ve become fascinated with medical conditions lately. Just googling pictures of things. Cataracts. Cystic kidneys. Mouth cancer. Things like that. Theres a childish fascination.
I used to think I’d hate being a surgeon cutting people up but now I’d say it can be quite satisfying removing a tumour or peeling fungal infections from people.
You’re a freak.
Tree man syndrome. Wow.
This question has nothing to do with the article.
If Native Americans have an average iq of 92 and whites in Spain have an average of 98 then why are Mexicans’ average at 89. Mexicans are on average only 30-35% Native American too. Their average should be higher than 95. What am I missing here?
What you’re missing is that phenotypic expression can’t be expressed additively using genes.
Are you saying that certain genes aren’t expressed when miscegenation occurs. I heard that from Edward Dutton, but would that also explain why they’re shorter than both Native Americans and Spaniards. I don’t think that explains it because mixing white and asian or white and black leads to an average iq between the two groups.
I think it could be 4 things:
1. A diet of mostly corn and beans has lead to cognitive deficits. A diet higher in omega-3’s, saturated fat, and cholesterol would solve that.
2. The people reproducing the most are cartel gang members because they are rewarded for being ruthless and savage. All the money being made in illegal drug smuggling is probably leading to low IQ criminals reproducing more.
3. The Aztecs had a lower IQ than other Native Americans. This isn’t likely because of the structures they built.
4. Most of the Spaniards that reproduced with Native Americans were low IQ. Although I don’t know why this would be the case. In fact, I would assume that most of the people taken on the ship to America were more competent than the average Spaniard.
“Are you saying that certain genes aren’t expressed when miscegenation occurs.”
No. I’m saying that genes don’t stack in an additive manner. Just because mexicans are genetically 30% native american does’t mean their IQ should reflect this. It’s more nuanced than that. There are actually a plethora of examples showcasing that ancestry does not accurately predict IQ. This is because IQ itself is dependent on Exogenous stimulation to actualize itself.
Or more simply put: genotype does not equal phenotype.
So for example because 20% of the differential between African IQ and European IQ is about 6, American blacks should have an IQ of about 76, but this isn’t the case at all.
And despite what Pumpkin will try to tell you, nutrition does not affect this.
How does the admixed Italian population come to hold an average IQ score identical to that of Austrian, German, and Dutch populations, and above various other European populations? How does the Spanish population hold an average IQ score only one point above the Argentine population, when Argentina was settled by ethnic Castilians (already admixed) who proceeded to reproduce with the Indian population, producing a modern castizo population in Argentina, and on top of that, subject to waves of Italian immigrants in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries? How do similarly admixed Uruguay and Portugal come to beat Ireland and Greece? (I’ve not mentioned former Soviet-bloc countries because I know white supremacists will repeat nonsense about them being “Jew Bolshevik controlled.”)
How does Indian Peru best “mestizo” Mexico and Colombia? Why is there such a disparity between Indian Peru and Indian Guatemala (11 points) despite the similar genetic structure of their populations, and the historic technological superiority of Mesoamerican Indians to Andean Indians? “Among self-identified Hispanics, the average NA admixture is 32.7%…(see Table 1), slightly lower than the 34.1% found by Bonilla et al. (2004a) in their southern Colorado sample. Among self-identified NAs, the average NA admixture is 71.8%…, a value significantly larger than observed in Hispanics (P \ 0.001).” Native Americans have more Amerindian admixture than the descendants of Mexicans, and far more than Puerto Ricans and Cubans, so how does it come to pass that their IQ scores are approximately equivalent, measured as slightly higher or lower in different assessments?
” I heard that from Edward Dutton,”
There’s your problem.
“And despite what Pumpkin will try to tell you, nutrition does not affect this”
Elaborate? Where’s that quote from?
Meaning nutrition can’t explain all of the contradictions with an additive model on IQ.
And I agree about non-additivity. Richardson uses the analogy it positive and negative charges which supposedly add up to one’s IQ score. Plomin is a good example here.
“The people reproducing the most are cartel gang members because they are rewarded for being ruthless and savage. All the money being made in illegal drug smuggling is probably leading to low IQ criminals reproducing more.”
Mexican drug cartels kill in the ruthless ways they do because they’re descended from the Aztecs and similar tribes who practiced ritual human sacrifice.
#justsostories
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2019/07/07/just-so-stories-cartels-and-mesoamerican-ritual-sacrifice/
If the average Mexican grew up in a country as rich as Spain both their average IQ & average height would be substantially higher. Suboptimal nutrition stunts the Mexican phenotype
Bullshit. So you think native Americans are less malnourished than Mexicans?
Do you even think about the shit you say?
If it’s environmental then raising the IQ of Mexico is as simple as improving nutrition and doesn’t require environmental selective pressure, a eugenics program, or a capitalist society that is intrinsically eugenic. Is it really as easy as improving their nutrition though? The same can’t be said for black people. Many government programs have attempted to improve the nutrition of blacks in America. Will these same programs work for Mexicans?
Morlock,
First world modern nutrition increases both height & brain size & brain size has a moderate effect on IQ. This may partly explain why 21st century Americans are taller and higher IQ than 19th century Americans & why even unmixed African Americans are 1 SD taller & higher IQ than their cousins in West Africa
King meLo, the median income in Mexico is about US $5,000 and the average is about US $9,000. Most Mexican people are living on beans and corn because it’s cheaper. They’re not getting all the amino acids and essential fatty acids you would get from eating meat. Since your brain is mostly made of fat, eating fat is important for brain development. Native Americans hunted and their diet consisted mostly of meat.
pumpkinperson, so since Mexicans are 11 points away from the average and a lot of that can be ascribed to poor nutrition it would be easier to assimilate Mexicans then. Although the drug cartels are going to inhibit much progress from being made in Mexico. Also, most illegal Mexicans aren’t average, most are on the lower end of the bell curve so improving nutrition for them probably won’t lead to assimilation. Improving nutrition in Mexico by getting rid of the cartels which hinder progress from being made might help.
Also, I don’t think native Americans score 92. Richard Lynn put them at 86 (white norms)
Dude Mexico has more meat consumption per capita than japan and is more than an SD lower in IQ
Also the native Americans that Mexicans descend from didn’t really hunt. They created their own civilization, where a lot of Mexico’s current diet stems from culturally.
That would make more sense, but are you sure a group with an average IQ of 86 could make a civilization like theirs. I mean Native Americans had those big sacrificing pyramids. I don’t know much about Native American or Mexican culture but they at least have houses and buildings.
Their current test scores likely underestimate their genomic potential
“Their current test scores likely underestimate their genomic potential”
Whats the evidence that races/individuals have “genomic potentials” for IQ?
Here’s a classic article: https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-limits-of-social-policy/. Only the first half of it is relevant.
Glazer gets a lot of things wrong, but his main point is correct. High levels of government assistance without social incentives to work, support a family, etc. are a disaster.
I think welfare should primarily come on the labor side: higher wages, getting rid of “right to work” laws, and protectionism. And you have to stop importing unskilled labor.
Clueless dorks like Yang who think the only issue is how much disposable income everyone has are oblivious to the fact that people care much more about their contribution to society being taken seriously.
Hardhats in Youngstown, OH are pissed off because they’re making $45k a year doing back-breaking work while the robotic sperg at McKinsey who can’t even catch a football is making $250k. A $1k/mo check is a massive Fuck You.
I wish I knew about HBD in high school. Could’ve saved myself a lot of suffering.
Long story short, I made the mistake of attending a university that’s over 80% Northeast Asian. Originally enrolled in STEM, but eventually had to transfer to business. I simply couldn’t compete in the higher level math courses. My career prospects have certainly suffered because of it.
I later took STEM courses at a mostly-white university, where I was always at the top of my class with minimal effort.
Do you think it was more due to work ethic/culture or talent?
As a business and accounting student, I’ve noticed that yes, the Chinese and Koreans on average do better in school/recruiting, but they work twice as hard.
That’s not to say that the average NE Asian isn’t more visuospatially talented than the average Anglo, but the SAT largely controls for this, I think.
How do you know they work twice as hard? Not saying you’re wrong, just wondering if you actually observed this?
it might not be 2x but here’s what i’ve noticed:
– Asians make up 20-25% of my major but networking events are at least 50% Asian.
– They go out fewer nights per week. Probably half as much as my white friends. They almost never binge drink.
– They study further in advance and are more likely to ask classmates for help when they don’t understand something. They also tend to take initiative in group projects.
– Their time-management skills are a lot better. They almost never pull all-nighters, and when they do they’re generally enrolled in an absurd amount of unit hours.
I didn’t have much interaction with them, so it’s hard to say. Probably a bit of both.
It did seem like they helped each other out a lot though (e.g. working on problem sets together in the library).
How do you quantify how much harder one works? Hours put into something? Do whites only work hard for 4 hours while Asians work hard for 8 hours? Help me out here.
RR stop nitpicking, it’s tedious.
You asked the same question.
And he answered it
Thanks for the recommendation, but I’ll stick with watching “Zulu” and “Naked Prey”.
Anyone have a strong, informed opinion about Iran?
At this point I don’t think there will be war. But if Trump starts one then im hoping sanders/warren win the election.
https://lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com/2020/01/04/i-totally-support-trumps-operation-to-kill-suleimani/
Sometimes I question whether he should be more explicit and put an israeli flag on his website.
Now do you finally understand that a lot of people can push their EGI without being part of a conspiracy, or do you think lion is also “in on it”?
Obviously hes not in on it. But he should reflect on how the same elites that push the anti white stuff are the same elites that push war with Iran – his elites.
Lion denies the role his elites have in pushing the anti-white agenda for the same reason Chomsky denies the role his elite has in pushing the pro-war agenda.
Both of these men use their verbal IQs to create a narrative that absolves their elites. Chomsky does it on the left; lion does it on the right.
Not because they’re part of s conspiracy but because that’s just what high verbal IQ manipulative ethnocentric people naturally do.
Now if any one ethnic group has a surplus of high verbal IQ ethnocentric manipulative people, they’ll have a huge effect on society because high verbal IQ people write our most popular blogs, get cited by the most prestigious journals, have the most money to buy politicians, dominate the media, think tanks & government.
Now if some of them decide to conspire here & there on top of all that (and they do)it just serves to multiply an effect that is already very large in its own right.
But these conspiracies are just the icing on the cake. They’re not the cake. Capiche?
I thought “elites” were one entity because they share the same agenda otherwise they would fight each other. If not they should be fighting right now, elite vs elite.
If I was elite I would fight the plans of other elite that go against my agenda(s)
You can tag any ethnicity or group as elite.
Google will probably dominate the A.I. field.
(it is powerful thinking about what they have now, private and gov)
Puppy house abstracted a set of characteristics to the point where everything loses all agency.
Agency != conspiracy
Two people can push the same agenda without ever communicating. You get that right?
The particular case of iran being designated an existential threat to the usa is a conspiracy. I get what you’re saying. Basically what you are proposing amounts to : [redacted by pp, jan 6, 2020]. Like I told robert I dont think that’s helpful. There are specific individuals in the state department, advising trump or in the intelligence agencies pushing this turd along.
But when the media supports the narrative, I don’t think your default assumption should always be that they’re “in on it” or taking orders from the deep state. Just as Lion can independently decide he wants to push a certain narrative, far more powerful media (who share Lion’s bias) often do the same.
No mainstream media are in on it. Specifically the nyt and wap. Not every individual journalist but key people at both.
I think Phil’s right about the media. Bias alone can’t account for the fact that all facets of the MSM are in lockstep on almost every issue. You need communication.
Here’s how I think it works: every so often the NYT has strategy meetings where they talk about the major stories they should run. Their staff is pretty ideologically homogeneous to begin with, so they leave these meetings in strong agreement on the top 5-10 key issues.
Then CNN and WAPO et al turn to their buddies at the Times for guidance on reporting their big stories.
But pill’s saying the NY Times is conspiring with the deep state, not just with itself. Not just using them as a source, but there’s a conspiracy between the deep state & the elite media to portray Iran as an existential threat to the U.S.
I think it’s more subtle than that
Theres nothing more that needs to be understood. The elites in finance, media and deep state know each other and especially more so if they all happen to be jews. This recent crap about russia hacking the election is a good example. Rubbish like that cant be made up by just 1 person. It requires co ordination to make it even seem plausible to people. Same with Iraq WMD. Same with assad gassing babies.
Socializing != conspiracy
Sources != conspiracy
Conspiracy implies the media & deep state sit in the same room & say something like “how best can we market this lie?”
It depends on what you mean by deep state. If you mean government officials that presidential admins don’t appoint, then yes, the media conspires with them to some extent. For example, I think the media got its Russian hacking talking points from Feds that weren’t hired by the Trump admin.
He’s wrong about Iran, though. afaict the MSM has been very skeptical of the whole thing, probably because it was the Trump admin’s idea, not the deep state’s.
For example, I think the media got its Russian hacking talking points from Feds that weren’t hired by the Trump admin.
To me that’s biased sourcing, not conspiracy
But when the media communicates with Feds, it’s probably through individual sources. The Russia thing was probably started by some cat lady who didn’t like Trump.
Caffeine Im talking about in general Iran being considered a ‘threat’ and a problem, not this latest stuff. When you think about it, its a little bizarre that the most powerful country in the world is so concerned with a developing country theocracy thousands of miles away with no navy or air force or any allies to speak of.
The russia stuff is obviously a deep state/media/CIA hoax story that only low IQ idiots like Melo bought. It came from nowhere but at multiple sources in at the same time in a concerted and planned manner. To this day the 15 intelligence agencies or whatever say the DNC was hacked by Russia. Evidence is there all right – that it was a conspiracy.
the US has no legitimate presence in the middle east because it has been oil independent for years.
now if the israelis or saudis want to pay the US to be there that’s fine. the saudis do pay the US via absurd military spending. they buy all their military equipment from the US and defense contractors are among the biggest political donors.
so it’s almost entirely israel, but the saudis and corruption in the US have a small part too. afaik the israelis don’t pay the US as much as the saudis. they get all their military equipment free. this again because jews are 9 out of 10 of the biggest donors and hold high positions in the government.
the europeans may need middle east oil. so they could pay the US too. but they don’t.
as it is the US has zero interest in whatever iran may be doing in its natural sphere of influence just like iran has zero interest in mexico or canada.
it’s satanism. the fish rots from the head. violence is the only solution, but the alt-right are mostly fags and feds so it doesn’t happen. and terrorists are retarded and gay. they always target innocent people.
and of course it’s not just campaign finance but the promise of lucrative sinecures for politicians once they leave office and the fourth estate, mass media, which influences voters and can do an effective “2 minutes hate” on anyone who doesn’t support israel to a cringe degree.
because gentile journalists will be fired stat if they go against israel and more often any gentile journalist who wasn’t stupid, cowardly, and corrupt would never be hired in the first place by the (((people))) who control the hiring and firing in all mass media other than murdoch.
who wasn’t stupid, cowardly, and corrupt
and/or corrupt, not and. Very few elite journalists are all three.
Trump was an idiot to reject the iran deal obama gave him. It makes no sense. The only thing that made it happen was jew pressure on trump.
trump knew most jews would oppose his xenophobic campaign, so he strategically attacked the iran deal to get just enough jewish support to get elected. That’s how he ended up with this odd coalition of the alt-right + pro-Israel extremists.
I dont want to keep [redacted by pp Jan 6, 2020].
You can keep doing whatever you want. We both know what both your therapists said about you.
And what is said can not be unsaid.
What you should both do is read about the history of the media and in particular how Allen Dulles used the mainstream media as a propoganda tool in Operation Mockingbird.
The mass media is, was, and always will be a tool by elites to communicate/brainwash worker bees.
This weird idea puppy has that its a normal for profit business or some sort of civic organisation dedicated to journalism [redacted by pp, Jan 6, 2029]
In fact if mass media didn’t exist, Robert Rubin would create it.
The mass media is, was, and always will be a tool by elites to communicate/brainwash worker bees.
We get that dumb dumb.
We just don’t believe they’re a branch of the deep state
As per my understanding, the concept of the deep state does not refer to a formal cohesive organisation within the state, but rather to an informal network.
We could think of the relation between various actors as a graph. Each actor representing a node and each edge representing a relation (financial, legal, social, etc.). If the deep state exists, we would be able to understand it as a cluster of interconnected nodes. The question of whether, for instance, Rubin is a member of the deep state could then be reveled by membership (or lack thereof) to the deep state cluster. This would be true also of the media apparatus in general.
The media is not here to inform you. GET THAT OUT OF YOUR HEADS. Why are you even thinking like that?!!!!! Like Chomsky said himself – its there to subordinate you.
^^^^
THIS IS A DOCUMENTARY
ITS NOT A MOVIE.
DO YOU UNDERSTANDING??????
Im actually still dazed and confused how Carpenter got this past the ((studio))) executives. Surely they must have read the script and thought about themselves?
These are features I have come across in talks about the spectrum of autism.
1. motor control problems
2. hyper-sensory awareness
3. overtly logical mind
4. mental age of a child
and pill keeps saying “that’s not helpful” because he knows that [redacted by pp, Jan 6, 2019]
Don’t go there
He knows what?
he thinks you’re jewish & create conspiracy theories so that anti-semites blame only the conspirators, not Jews in general.
from an hbd pov the other interesting thing is that iran is viewed as a threat because iranians/persians aren’t stupid.
lynn estimated the iranian IQ at 84.
how many countries with an average 84 IQ have won the math olympiad and have two fields medal winners?
we both know that peepee lies because she is a black lesbian psychopath.
Pumpkin, would math ability be best described by Arithmetic + Figure Weights + Matrix Reasoning, or only Figure Weights, or Figure Weights and Arithmetic but not Matrix Reasoning.
I would guess arithmetic + matrix, but arithmetic by itself is a pretty good proxy for math IQ
Pumpkin, when it comes to verbal activities such as law or writing or philosophy, can matrix reasoning make up for similarities?