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Below is a Theory of Mind test used in actual autism research. The test consists of six scenarios, each of which is followed by a question or two. Please watch the video only once and as you do, write down the answer to the questions as quickly as you can. Post your answers in the comment section. I will not publish your answers to avoid compromising the test, but if you post a SEPARATE comment asking how you did, I will publish that, and respond to it with your score.
Each of the six items is scored on a scale of 2, 1 or 0, for a maximum score of 12.
A published study of 163 autistic adults who averaged normal Wechsler IQs found they averaged 9.1 on this test (SD = 2.4) while the non-autistic control group (n = 80) averaged 10.4 (SD = 1.5). This shows that when you control for IQ, people diagnosed with autism have an average social IQ of 87 and that a score of 9.1 on this test, equates to a social IQ of 100.
Pumpkin Person 
Are you going to mention your own score?
Oh yes
This is not even funny. Social IQ? What’s next? Sex life IQ?
Being outgoing and fashionable are both personality traits independent of intelligence. Simply put, if you care enough about how other people see you, you’ll do everything possible to impress anyone looking.
Females are very good at this, always up to date with the latest fashion and make up trends. They are gossipers and self concious, that’s why they partake in such activity. They are simply obsessed with attention and many whore for their 15 minutes of fame.
I wouldn’t associate extrovertedness and fashion with the notion of IQ because the notion of IQ is associated to the notion of intelligence and I see no such link between fashion and intelligence. In fact, being fashionable means you conform to the society’s standards of fashion. Conformists generally have lower IQs than non-conformists because of their inabililty to free themselves from their herd mentality.
I really do look down on the mindless conformist drones. Simply put, I have other priorities than looking pretty for people I don’t know.
Puppy was your score lower than the bunny rabbit?
my score is…
let’s make welsh rarebit with actual “rarebit”.
Puppy you just don’t get it. The whole point of a social IQ test would not be to quantify something thats intuitive. Even asking us to do this test is a sign of low social IQ. You should be able to tell someone’s social IQ just from reading their random comments.
Just humour me and take the test.
A psychologist would charge you hundreds of dollars for this service.
Philo will probably score low
Pill probably thinks the bunnies are taking orders from Robert Rubin.
Schizophrenia will do that to you.
this post proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that peepee is autistic.
i saw literally 5 seconds of the vid and knew it was acting…BAD acting…VERY BAD acting.
now give us a vid which isn’t acting peepee the 100% PURE autist!
I agree the acting was terrible & that actually made the first item harder for me
You want excellent acting. See my 9 second social IQ test which should be added to this series:
score me please
10 out of 12. But if I were writing the scoring rules you’d get 11/12. I disagree with how they score one of the items.
What about me?
You also got 10 out of 12. Though you lost 1 point for not paying attention, even though you grasped the social concept. Perhaps that’s where ADD hurt you.
Damn, was it the [redacted by pp, nov 7, 2019]
I was trying not to psyche myself out so I rushed through the exam as fast as possible to get a result in.
yes it was. but you have to rush unless you watch it twice which is cheating.
The first one I had to rewatch to get into a groove of what the questions were like.
Also, this test has too low of a ceiling and a limited amount of questions, which would in turn also make the scenarios increasingly difficult to arrive at an answer. There are less complex instances of social scenarios than there are simplistic ones, although this test seemed to incorporate less difficult elements for the scenarios themselves. They were all relatively straightforward.
If one goes with their gut, they should find the test to be straightforward, as already mentioned.
Also, I meant [redacted by pp, nov 7, 2019].
It didn’t matter. Either one gets full credit for that item.
Impulsiveness deteriorates social intelligence the most. Imagine trying to make interpersonal judgments and failing to think them through…that’s what’s happened with me and is the phenomenon behind my suffering.
Impulse control would’ve taken me great places but unfortunately I have no willpower.
What was my score?
You only answered one question. The test has six items
How did I do now?
10 out of 12
And what IQ does that correspond to?
I don’t think anyone here is autistic but a lot of commenters have a shallow affect. I think it’s just properly referred to as a blank affect or whatever.
Schizophrenics have as difficult a time as autists do in terms of emotional cognition, identifying facial expressions, etc.
I have a tough time socially to an extraordinary degree. I think I’m a rational misanthrope.
Confidence is key for all social interactions. Doesn’t matter if you’re socially dumb as long as you can dominate the other person…at least that’s how primates compared to other mammals operate.
Most people are socially unaware and dumb anyways. They’re just great manipulators is all…
I mean, there’s so many environmental factors in social development from self-esteem to life experiences and the like. Cognitive intelligence is a lot easier to determine than social ones.
Social intelligence is cognitive. All intelligence is, by definition
Ah, yes, you’re right. My bad.
is there any data on how men did vs women?
None that I’m aware of
so, whats my score
12 out of 12
Average test score in Baron Cohen is 15/50. Average diagnosed autistic people have 35/50, 32 being the threshold because 80% of autistic were above 32. Only 10% of autists are above 42. And I am 46/50.
At the same time, the videos didn’t look difficult to interpret for me at all. So I d like to know more ….
Thx.
12 out of 12
Hahaha hahaha this test is dumb and these results show it. Bruno has stated many times he cant make out the emotions on peoples faces when shown pictures..
Bruno, despite his spectacular overall IQ, seems to have a low visual IQ. By his own admission he sucks at drawing & has trouble forming mental images so it’s not surprising he might misread facial expressions. But that doesn’t mean he lacks the higher level ability to understand intention which is what Theory of Mind tests measure.
But I agree the test is useless for measuring beyond the average level of social IQ. The test can’t prove you’re socially smart, but it can prove you’re not socially dumb.
Social intelligence can be attributed to various different things happening at once, thus requiring many subtests. Theory of MInd only represents one facet; just one facet but a large one indeed. There are other parts of social intelligence that need to be tested, like knowing when to speak (impulse control), how self-aware an individual is in terms of one’s standing in a social interaction or multiple social interactions (dominance), and many others that influence social behvaiors in general.
I think my strong-suit is my intonation and ability to express my emotions properly. Some people can have great theory of mind but have a shallow or flat affect, meaning they can’t express their emotions well, either in a conversation or a social setting in general. I struggled with that earlier in my life but I have greatly improved.
Theory of Mind type of thought patterns can also be heavily improved as well through practice. There’s also something to be said about not being “too” socially intelligent…if a person seems to be too self-aware or too socially dominant or charismatic or whatever, people get skeptical, just as with any other cognitive trait.
like knowing when to speak (impulse control),
knowing when to speak is part of social intelligence, but adhering to that knowledge is more a personality trait in my opinion. No matter how socially intelligent you are; you can’t control your impulses if those impulses are too strong.
Other than that, good post. Social intelligence (like intelligence itself) is not a one dimensional trait.
But bruno has also said he was diagnosed with autism. So he must have a really low social iq. That’s basically the definition of autism.
I don’t recall him ever saying that. He did say he scored extremely high on some autism questionnaire but those don’t measure social intelligence per se, but autistic personality traits like obsessive focus, interest in numbers, etc.
I agree Bruno can sometimes give off a “Data from Star Treck” vibe, but he strikes me as too funny, self-aware, and politically savvy to be socially dumb.
And while low social IQ is very common in autism, it’s not the same thing. In theory an autistic person could have a very high social IQ and of course many non-autistics have low social IQs (retardates for example).
Why is this comment banned? He has actually said he has autism..
it wasn’t banned. Just a delay in publishing because I was responding to other comments first.
I agree with all that . I can’t form images. I draw like a 4 yo. I don’t store any memory that is not semantic. But the test was only dialogues in situations. That’s only meaning and I understand sarcasm without problem . That’s also why nobody – except very close people – see I am socially awkward if I don’t point it out. Similar test without dialogues would have been harder
So it sounds like you have a relatively low non-verbal IQ, so if you took the older Wechsler tests (before they reorganized the scale), you’d be a classic verbal IQ > performance IQ case, much like Daniel Seligman.
Only one funny thing I remember : I had my visual abilities tested in a process where army look for scientists and engineers who want to fighter jet pilot and my vision was the maximum 99.99% tested. But I told them fear being in a plane 🙂
1) I have a good social life
2) in terms, of visual IQ, no question on the spatial Mega test seems har to me. You gave me 4 out of
4 in the visual test. And at Mensa, I had the maximum spatial score but the ceiling was low . So I think it was only a 2.5/3 sd .
My guess is you have extremely high g + extremely high verbal + low spatial.
So when the spatial test is extremely g loaded (i.e. Mensa test, the Gestalt test I gave), your high g compensates for your low spatial.
But when the spatial test has only a moderate or low g loading (i.e. drawing), the low spatial ability becomes more evident.
If bruno has a 99.9 percentile Iin candidates to be a pilot in vision then he doesn’t have visual problems. From reading bruno’s comments and hearing some facts about his life and how he interacts with people there is little doubt that bruno has autism.
Bruno has a very rigid way of talking and never picks up on my sarcasm about him being ‘arrogant’. He also said he has no imagination. Not just a memory but forward looking or prospective image generation. Lack of creative and imaginative traits is another key part of autism. Finally bruno says he learned 14 languages or whatever studying really obscure things like Finnish. Only an autist does something to that degree for no professional reason.
If bruno has a 99.9 percentile Iin candidates to be a pilot in vision then he doesn’t have visual problems.
I’m not saying he has bad eye sight pill, I’m saying his ability to think about visual stimuli is not as good as his ability to think about verbal stimuli. That’s a cognitive profile not a sensory one.
From reading bruno’s comments and hearing some facts about his life and how he interacts with people there is little doubt that bruno has autism.
Depends how you define autism. His social IQ is not low.
Bruno has a very rigid way of talking and never picks up on my sarcasm about him being ‘arrogant’.
He realizes you’re goofing around but you lack the social IQ to realize when a joke has played itself out. Even Lion and his commenters are complaining about your poor comic timing and failed attempts at satire.
He also said he has no imagination. Not just a memory but forward looking or prospective image generation. Lack of creative and imaginative traits is another key part of autism.
His funnier comments show verbal creativity like when he brilliantly mocked RR for asking people to define everything. Even Afro praised Bruno for his humor.
Finally bruno says he learned 14 languages or whatever studying really obscure things like Finnish. Only an autist does something to that degree for no professional reason.
It’s also something an extremely high IQ person would do.
And i have never been diagnosed with autism or asperger. It’s only the Baron Cohen test.
He also said he has no imagination.
True.
Not just a memory but forward looking or prospective image generation.
True.
Lack of creative and imaginative traits is another key part of autism.
Yes but I would say you don’t need images to be creative and invent things and even stories. There are graphic artists (sculptor, paintor etc) without images.
Finally bruno says he learned 14 languages or whatever studying really obscure things like Finnish. Only an autist does something to that degree for no professional reason.
It’s also because it doesn’t take me any attention. I don’t try to be perfect (look at my English). Just having fun at being able to turn the radio or tv on or talk to people in their language. They are very amazed and grateful when you speak rare languages and you look like a « God » or « Magician » to them.
The baron Cohen test is a gold standard. Simon baron Cohen is recognised as the leading thinker on autism. If his test says you have it and I say you have it, then you definitely have it.
It’s not like I call everyone autistic but with bruno or anime it’s very obvious.
If you want to define autism as a high score on the SBC test then that’s fine, but you realize that not everyone who scores high on that scale will have a low social IQ right? The average social IQ will be low, but you’ll get a bell curve distribution with some “autistics” way above the “autistic” mean and even above the non-autistic mean.
Because Bruno has high general IQ, that props up his entire profile, even areas where he might be relatively weak.
I’m not familiar with the actual test items on the sbc. I just saw a documentary with him in it. But if the test is testing for autism it should find low social iq in the same way a test diagnosing stupidity should find low conventional iq.
But there’s a lot more to autism than just low social IQ:
https://autismcanada.org/about-autism/diagnosis/diagnostic-criteria-dsm-5/
It’s defined more by social interactions than social intelligence per se & it’s also about repetitive behaviour. On average autistics have very low social IQ but there’s enormous variability
Yes I think Philo and PP agree on my case 🙂
True 46 or 47 in Baron Cohen is extremely high … and when I read the horrible descriptions of asperger kids, i have experienced the darkest and most nefarious aspects of it. But thanks god, my g, helps me get out of this and be like « normal ». Philo underestimates what general capacity can do for someone even in daily life activities. That’s why even if i don’t have PP definition of G as resourcefulness, I know that reasoning is an incredible source of possibilities.
I get 39 AQ10- 8.0 on the Aspie tests site .
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A friend of mine is the head of derivative swaps for all interest rate in a big IM bank. He makes 5M since his nomination 18 yo …. His mother was a taxi driver and father had a pub in a ski station. He is very ugly. He did french best management school HEC and an engineering school in statistics (Ensae). He happily married a beautiful blonde german whose job was selling bathroom in a supermarket before meeting him …. He always told me I should have done his kinda of job (because of the money).
5 million pound a year. Living in London but with a flat in Paris and Frankfurt.
i’m still telling peepee she should do these sokoban puzzles.
as long as the number of moves to solution is less than 100 i can do it stat.
if it’s more than 100 it takes me big time.
but you gotta do the “aymetric du peloux”
http://www.game-sokoban.com/index.php?mode=catalog&cid=264
autists think a ferrari can drive over a mountain faster than a horse.
this is sad.
bum bum bum…
satellite of…
Starset – Let It Die (Official Audio)
Hahahaha! Anime with the burn!
I’m pretty sure I’m not autistic. How did I do?
10 out of 12
Why did I miss 2 points?
I guess that lines up pretty well with me though. Although I’m not autistic I’m not usually acutely aware of subtle social cues. I’m usually indifferent in most social situations. They’re just not interesting most of the time.
I don’t want to discuss the scoring rules lest I invalidate the test.
You grasped the concept of all 6 items but you sometimes failed to get full credit for reasons I consider somewhat arbitrary.
I doubt the test discriminates well at its upper end.
Well yeah, the test won’t discriminate well because more than 15 percent of the control group population will get a perfect score, if you apply the 1.5 SD.
Excuse me, meant to say 1.5 𝙥𝙤𝙞𝙣𝙩(s) per standard deviation, not 1.5 standard deviations. That was my fault.
Might I inquire also as to how I did?
10 out of 12
Found the source. Don’t see how you have me 2 points for question 2. Not that my answer was wrong I think , but the scoring key tends to be somewhat narrow in the scoped of accepted answers
not sure if we’re looking at the same scoring rules, but your answer clearly qualified as a 2 according to the rules i’m reading.
It may be then that you are correct about the difference in scoring keys. You may whish to redact the following (or not publish the comment altogether): [Was the key not identical to the one presented in [redacted by pp, nov 8, 2019]]
Even if it is the same key, it may be that you are still correct; I have no experience in scoring psychological tests, so it is possible that I am overestimating the required closeness of the answer given to the answer delineated in the key.
yes that’s it. Not sure why you felt your answer was unworthy of full credit by the rules they describe.
*tips fedora*
There’s no way this guy got a 10 based on the way he’s writing. He must’ve had to watch the video’s 12 times each to catch on to the social cues.
I don’t have, and have not for that matter ever had, a fedora. Each video was watched only once before answering. I agree certainly that my social IQ is perhaps low compared to my performance in other areas, but it is not I think, low as such. I might add that, in support of this, I have previously undergone a psychological assessment wherein autism was explicitly screened for and there was no indication of its presence.
Sulv after reviewing the scoring rules more closely, I see that you were right. Your score has been reduced to 9 out of 12. I’ll be reviewing the answers of others to see if anyone else needs a downgrade.
Also, assuming the mean was computed from the sample with no further adjustments, mightn’t the sample mean underestimate the population mean owing to the truncation of the right tail? That is, the mean of the sample corresponds to the expected value of a truncated distribution, which when truncated at the right tail (it is truncated at both technically, but the 0 is far enough from the mean that the left truncation is negligible) should be smaller than mean the underlying distribution. Truncation should also reduce the variance.
Also, do you know the correlation between social IQ and IQ in general?
About 0.45
Might you know what psychometric (as opposed to simply questionnaire based) tests are used, or show differentiation such as they might be used, to determine likelihood of ASD?
Autism is usually diagnosed using questionnaires. The test I’ve presented here is a rare example of an actual social intelligence test but it’s used in research not diagnosis afaik. Some of the wechsler subtests touch on social IQ among other things
Half the people here got perfect scores even though half of your regular commenters have autism. Taaaaatthhhh maaakkkthhh senstthhhh!
That’s because the most autistic people here (you and Mug of Pee) are afraid to take the test
Like I said in a previous comment theory of mind is only one dimension of social intelligence, though. Some people, for example, are great at understanding another’s emotions but fail to correctly respond to it.
This is where I tremendously struggle. I can read the other person like a book but I can’t appropriately respond with a socially acceptable action. I think many people have the opposite going on for them, where they lack theory of mind but when they understand something, they can act appropriately and make the right decisions.
it all very much depends on the context of what’s happening, what your needs are from another person and what their needs are from you, and so on. there’s so many different things going on that there’s never a correct answer for anything.
social intelligence is so subjective, and realistically is dependent on previous assumptions we have about other people, boxing them in into not being able to act the way they maybe want to….something i’ve personally struggled with a lot. not to mention people use heuristics for most social situations anyways, like catching someone in a lie for example.
the main takeaway from this test is how much you can understand what is going on in social situations and how well you can make accurate judgments about the inner-workings of the social mind.
Some people, for example, are great at understanding another’s emotions but fail to correctly respond to it.
Excellent point! A lot of what we call social intelligence is being quick witted enough to have the right reaction or comment at the right time. Social interactions are fast paced.
Thank you, Pumpkin! Social scenarios are something I’ve studied quite a bit like intelligence, they’re so complex, one needs to look at many instances of displaying high or low social intelligence and scenarios to come up with accurate conclusions about them.
I think personality can be factored in to give a conceptual understanding of social intelligence because it will directly affect how the person will interact with a person in different social scenarios. There’s a spectrum of dominance/submissiveness that mediates how a person will interact and then intelligence and confidence are also traits that impact how a person will also act as a personality trait in how one chooses to interact with the world around them.
So yes, in short, personality and intelligence dictate the ability to be social.
So
Pumpkin, do scatterbrains take longer to grasp things as compared to their IQ group because of their scatterbrainness, which just sends your thought to random places in your brain.
It depends how you define scatterbrain and how you measure it. It’s not a scientific term so there’s no literature on the subject.
Scatterbrain as in thoughts being all over the place. No clarity in thought, always a feeling of cobwebs.
I thought it was ?/12. I gave 6 answers. I was dxed with Asperger’s this May at the age of 62 .
each question is scored out of 2, hence the total score is out of 12.
What social IQ is 6/12 if 9.1= 100 ?
No 9.1 = social IQ 87
10.4 = social IQ 100
Apologies PP . If 9.1 =87 what does 6 equal ?
It ought to be about 56.
How did I score?
9 out of 12
[updated by pp, 2019-11-09: this person actually scored 11 out of 12]
On which did I lose points? I found the scoring criteria, and I think 10 is the worst that you could award.
On which did I lose points? I found the scoring instructions, and the worst one could award is 10 I believe.
did you not see the update I made to your score earlier today? corrected my typo.
I hadn’t seen it. sorry, didn’t mean to ask that twice
How did I do PP?
12 out of 12
Interesting as I do technically have Aspergers, though I think I was misdiagnosed like so many introverted kids. .
I really want Phil and Mugabe to take it.
And if they’re worried about peepee not being objective, I’ll score it for them. I like their comments.
Curious to know my results (no rush, of course). Thank you for doing this! 🙂
How did I do? 🙂
Being blank on the outside is not the same as drawing a blank on the inside.
There seems to be an inner life that the condition “autism” blocks from understanding.
Autist have an inner life but is undetectable to them in others.
They are not overly logical but can be. Being overly logical can make non-autists seem autistic because it limit the emotional window.
They are not emotional immature but can be.
My mom gives me a blank stare most of the time because she is emotionally unresponsive and does not understand what is going on. I know she is not normal.
The report about me says I internalized my anger and feel like a failer in all my attempts at winning social approval. I am emotionally immature and depressed.
The real problem in autism is the asymmetry in internal communications of the brain. Sometimes this shows externally but it is a relationship between internal and external.
If you cannot balance the internal and external symmetrically you have autism/problems understanding people.
autism is a form of rigidity with respect to others, shows physically.
“This shows that when you control for IQ, people diagnosed with autism have an average social IQ of 87 and that a score of 9.1 on this test, equates to a social IQ of 100.”
I might not be reading this correctly but wouldn’t a 10.4 equate to a social IQ of 100? A 9.1 is the average for those diagnosed with autism and so a 9.1 equates with an 87, right?
Yes that’s right. I’ll have to edit that later tonight.
6 items? The video only asked one question.
No it asks 6 questions. You must have stopped watching before it ended
Score?
I will score the rest of you over the next several days
Lies
@sulv Was the 56 based on 9.1=100 or 9.1= 87 ?
Using the fact that 10.4 = 100.
That being said, I think there might be a slight issue since the reference sample did not have an IQ of 100. (That is, PCI of 106.4, VCI of 111.2)
I think it’s now being said that 9.1= 100 which would,I think , increase the 56 by about 5-10 points .
I agree Bruno can sometimes give off a “Data from Star Treck” vibe, but he strikes me as too funny, self-aware, and politically savvy to be socially dumb.
—> that’s very interesting Pumpkin, because Spoke (I ve never watched a full episode of star streak) is a living thing that simulates gladly a machine . But Data is a more powerful machine that would like to understand and feel like humans. Many people – »competition » at work – have told me they had the hopeless feeling of fighting against a Robocop. That probably comes – like visual – from my lacking the normal human rumination (and it’s content : imagined senses, memories, feelings tagged to people and things) ….
PP, score plis, thank you sir
Plis
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Pumpkin, are we allowed to pause at each question and take some time to think?
I don’t think the control group did that so it’s probably more accurate not to
My slow processing speed would get me a score of 4 if I did not pause to read the question.
I did a typing test once. the average was above 100 wpm. mine was 14 wpm
my dexterity sucks (Typing quotient 77) but I do block design at least 120
(are you going to use this information for some post pumpkin?)
Not that information. I did have plans to do a post on longterm IQ stability using your wechsler scores (since you have results from both childhood and adulthood) but I don’t recall where you posted them.
my block design being high and dexterity being low does not seem congruent.
Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children-Third Edition
Age 12 – Date 10/29/2001 Scale Score IQ
Verbal Tests
Information 16 130
Similarities 12 110
Arithmetic 12 110
Vocabulary 15 125
Comprehension 16 130
Digit Span ?
Verbal IQ – 125
Performance Tests
Picture Completion 15 125
Coding 8 90
Picture Arrangement 16 130
Block Design 13 115
Object Assembly 13 115
Symbol Search ?
Mazes ?
Performance IQ – 120
Full Scale IQ – 125
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where’s your adult wechsler?
Kaufman Adolescent & Adult Intelligence Scale
Date 01/16/04 Scale Score
Definitions 11
Rebus Learning 11
Logical Steps 12
Auditory Comprehension 13
Mystery Codes 14
Double Meanings 14
Crystallized IQ 112
Fluid IQ 113
Composite Intelligence 114
01/16/04
Structure of the Intellect (DFU DMU)
Measure Percentile
DFU 66
DMU 94
Structure of the Intellect (CMR NSI)
Measure Percentile
CMR 84
NSI 90
tested in November 2015
WAIS 4 Sub-test Raw Score Scale: 20 IQ
Similarities Raw 32 scaled 14 120
Vocabulary Raw 47 scaled 14 120
Information Raw 24 scaled 18 140
Comprehension Raw 29 scaled 13 115
Block Design Raw 61 scaled 15 125
Matrix Reasoning Raw 22 scaled 13 115
Visual Puzzles Raw 21 scaled 13 115
Picture Completion Raw 8 scaled 6 80
Figure Weights Raw 24 scaled 16 130
Digit Span Raw 23 scaled 7 85
Arithmetic Raw 15 scaled 11 105
Letter Number Sequence Raw 21 scaled 10 100
Symbol Search Raw 23 scaled 6 80
Coding Raw 67 scaled 9 95
Cancellation Raw 28 scaled 6 80
Excellent. Thank you!
My social IQ is between 56-66 . Yes or no?
The distribution is skewed which makes your social IQ seem lower than it is. The reality is you did better than 3% of the control group. If the control group is representative of the general non-pathological population, this equates to a social IQ of 72. In fact the control group is slightly higher and less variable than the general population in Wechsler IQ (and presumably social IQ too), so comparing yourself to them might underestimate your social IQ somwhat.
And of course this test is very short & thus of limited reliability and unknown validity
Don’t take the results too seriously
[redacted by pp, nov 9, 2019]
so the problem is this isn’t just intuitive, because the situations are too unrealistic. what were the average IQs of the two groups, and did they have the same IQ profile?
The autistic group averaged a Perceptual Reasoning IQ of 109 and a verbal comprehension IQ of 103.
The control group averaged a PR IQ of 106 and a VC IQ of 111.
1) So as the autistic group was 0.5 sd below the control group in VC, part of the 1sd difference in social intelligence must be attributed to that.
2) the control group having a 0.7 IQ above the average, there average social intelligence must also being a bit higher than the average. So 10.4 May in fact – typo apart – be more than 100 (103 with 0.45 correlation)
3) To extract the autism effect, we could pondere the score by g (opposite of 2). For example someone with a social intelligence of 100 and an IQ of 115 should in fact have a social skill of 85 (You don’t take the correlation to extract the social skill aspect)
4) this test has a ceiling of 115 for people with a 108 IQ, so IQ could deflate the test up to 123.
4) so if your commenters averaged – let’s guess 10.8 – but have an average IQ of 127, then their average social intelligence is around 108 (103+5) but their social skills (given their intelligence) would be more like 93 at most . That’s why the social intelligence here is not bad despite many people being much more very in the introverts, shy, aspie, repetitive and compulsive vibe than average …
I wann do this test. But i looked at first scenario and im totally baffled. So….maybe i wont do it….
Interesting. Even though you’re one of my favorite all time commenters and one of the funniest and most articulate people here, I’ve sometimes questioned your social IQ because of your (initial) blindness to ethnic motives. But that’s just a bias on my part, given that I’m an EGIer.
And a reminder to people who have been leaving answers. I don’t post your answers for obvious reasons so please leave a follow up comment asking for your score if you want me to post it.
Pumpkin, I have a high processing speed, but it still takes me a long time to complete tests. What does the literature or personal experience say about this?
So how did I do?
12 out of 12
How did I do?
3 our of 12
What does that correspond to approximately?
Also, I got a 13 on Comprehension subtest, does the comprehension subtest test more of a philosophical type of social IQ, while this test is more concrete. I’m awful in actual social situations, people who describe themselves as socially inept are social geniuses in my eyes.
okay. I just finished the test. So how did I do?
what is a better test of fluid reasoning, similarities or comprehension?
What’s my score?
6 out of 12
thank you for the quick reply.
The average of the 14 scores you have postes is 9.3,slightly more than autistic people, despite the average IQ for your commenters being around 127. So probably the “social” aspect of commenters “social intelligence” is lower than the autist group (and probably the average score is higher because there is an auto-exclusion of low scorers who either don’t take the test or don’t want you to release it).
Maybe philosophers has a clue about this amicable agora. I’m glad being part of it however autistic the group is. And i have the distinction of representing the hypostatsis of autism along with Anime (even in Afro said there was no way I would be autistic).
How’d I do?
11 out of 12
That was quick, thanks! I enjoyed this.
Items 2 and 5 were particularly fun to try to take apart.
Score please? I don’t think I did that well!
9 out of 12
Will you post the scoring key some time later, or must that remain secret?
Never mind, I found the scoring key. I self administered some other questions by reading the transcripts and writing down my thoughts. It seems I can do okay if I make an effort to describe what each person is thinking. I guess that’s what normal people do naturally..