Because thousands of obsessed fans have spent their whole lives worshiping Jackson as a Christ-like figure, they can’t possibly accept that he could have been a pedophile, as alleged by HBO’s terrifying new documentary Leaving Neverland:
Fans have therefore devoted countless hours trying to debunk the documentary any way they can.
Most of these debunkings are too ridiculous to respond to, but one gained a small degree of traction.
In Leaving Neverland, James Safechuck describes many places where he claims to have been molested by Michael Jackson as a kid, including different rooms at Neverland (Jackson’s home). One of those rooms was the upstairs of the train station.
Mike Smallcombe (a British Jackson biographer) told Mirror Online:
The deficiency in Safechuck’s story is this – construction on Neverland’s train station didn’t start until the latter part of 1993, and it didn’t open until the first part of 1994, when Safechuck was 16. So abuse in the train station wasn’t possible if the abuse stopped in 1992, as he claims in his testimony, as it didn’t even exist then. There’s a two year difference.”
To prove that Jackson’s trains station wasn’t built until 1993, Smallcombe tweeted the construction permit.
However Smallcombe is assuming the train station was only built after Jackson got the construction permit. But in an interview taped in 2018 (well before this controversy emerged) for episode 094 of a Jackson fan podcast called The MJ Cast, Jackson’s photographer Harrison Funk claims he was told not to photograph the train station because it was built without a permit.
This means that the September 1993 permit Smallcombe cites must have been issued after the train station was built, suggesting it was likely built in 1992 or earlier.
Even if it was built in early 1993, this still does not debunk Safechuck’s claims of being molested there. According to imdb, Safechuck was born February 28, 1978, so he would have been 14 before February 28, 1993 and 15 by March 1993. Consistent with this timeline is Diane Diamond’s Daily Beast article published in 2014 which stated:
According to the source, Safechuck alleges that he “was molested from the age of 10 to about 14 or 15″.
Even if one overlooks the absurdity of expecting alleged victims of abuse to precisely remember the exact date and location of every sexual act that occurred over many years a quarter century ago, there appears to be no holes in Safechuck’s narrative.
UPDATE April 21, 2019: I’ve just been informed that further confirmation that the train station was built long before the permit Smallcombe cites can be found on pages 23-24 of Frank Cascio’s book My Friend Michael.
Then in 1993, my relationship with Michael reached a new level when, for the first time, he invited my family to visit him at his home, Neverland Ranch…I was twelve when my family took its first trip to Neverland over spring break…Now, though, we were at last at Neverland, and it was truly another world…The driveway curved past a train station on the right, a lake on the left.
In response to this article, many Jackson fans are linking to an AP photo of Jackson’s train station showing it under construction as recently as December 1993. However the photo only lists the creation date as December 1993; the taken date was likely much earlier. Many people assume the created date is when the photo was taken but it actually refers to when it’s created on the computer. AP has no way of knowing when their photos were taken since they buy photos from freelance photographers and if one of these worked for Jackson, they may have even deliberately delayed the creation date if, as Funk claimed, Jackson did not have a building permit at the time of construction
Pumpkin Person 
Thank you for putting this story out. It’s disgusting that people who stand to lose income that comes as a result of Jackson such as biographers, the estate are willing to expend so much energy trying to discredit victims of abuse. Abuse that has been accumulating for most of Jackson’s adult life. No doubt the cultists and all of the above mentioned will try and find a new angle. Big thanks!
It’s disgusting how people will lie about abuse to make millions.
NO Funk’s interview does not support Safechuck’s claim as he said the photoshoot he was talking about was in June 1994 not in 1992 when Safechuck says his alleged abuse ended at age 14
Funk’s response to Dan Reed’s recent idiocy:
https://twitter.com/harrisonfunk/status/1120408781450559488
https://twitter.com/harrisonfunk/status/1120412492738572288
and he did not refer to the building permit but the occupancy permit or additional permits necessary because MJ changed the original plan or went ahead without the building inspectors approval.
Two photos prove that the stations did not exist before 1994:
Steve Starr who took a photo on Aug 25 1993, no station
and AP who took a photo on Dec 14 1993 shows the station under construction.
the AP photo in Dec 1993
http://www.apimages.com/metadata/Index/Watchf-AP-A-ENT-CA-USA-APHS240026-Jackson-Never-/1a534dd64259487095d28af48272c163/11/0
Safechuck lied. There is no ifs and buts about it. He made it up just like he made up abuse in other places. He was not molested just like he said that for 20 years before his family got sued for 800 000 in May 2013 and all of sudden he “realized” he was abused and sued MJ’s Estate for millions to solve his family’s financial problems.
LOL, its so typical for Jackson fans to Lie lol.
How much is MJ paying you for this? Or are you one of the Jacksons, Vulkcan?
So funny how you try and ignore the fact that one of Jackson’s defendefers, IN HIS OWN BOOK, PROVES THE TRAIN STATION EXISTED BEFORE THAT PHONY PERMIT THE JACKSON’S PAID EMPLOYEE PULLED OUT HIS BEHIND.
If you look at the Sept 1993 permit and the actual building you can see they don’t match. So what MJ actually built did not have a permit in Sept 1993. To get the city’s approval he most likely had to get another permit which apparently he didn’t have in June 1994 when Funk did the photoshoot.
In no way does Funk’s interview prove that the building existed in 1992
when Safechuck said his alleged abuse ended.
Another fact contradicting Safechuck: Oprah was in Neverland in Feb 1993.
When she was informed about the train station lie she didn’t defend Safechuck by saying I saw the station was there in Neverland in Feb !
No.
She said trauma cause Safechuck not to remember the exact time.
LOL. As if it was just a whether it happened on Tuesday or Monday
when in fact he issues is years not day. The station was built years
after Safechuck said he was last molested.
When did Safechuck say he was last molested? According to Diane diamond it was about age 14 or 15. Diamond wrote this years before the train station controversy
Ridiculous there is even more documentation that the train station wasnt built yet.
nobody expects Safechuck to remember every incident and every date especially because he is not under cross examination BUT what people do expect is that James could leave out assertions he can’t fully remember, not submit photos to Dan Reed to flash on screen if he doesn’t properly remember, not quote a year the abuse ended if he isn’t sure and not add to the assertion Jackson dumped victims at puberty and THUS *must* have moved on to abuse Culkin and Barnes who have been harassed as a result of this assertion now shot down by Reed himself.
Safechuck talked about these bed locations that would be used all the time and ‘every day’ in the beginning or ‘honeymoon’ phase of the alleged twisted relationship so there is a higher degree of scrutiny that can be applied to the very existence of the building and also note Safechuck asserts he was too young to produce semen when he was being abused and that when he was around Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley on select occasions around and after 93 he stood about a half foot taller than Michael and was definitely post-puberty
the absence of specific photos and description of locations besides Jacksons bedroom wouldn’t have hampered the documentary but they DO add weight to what could be an unfair assessment of Jackson by viewers because its a visceral description, the truth is owed in these situations so people are free to explain that parts of their memory ARE a blur or to just list the things that seem more concrete
I think you and all the other people should really just be honest about this matter….you are not going to believe anything allegations against Jackson. It doesn’t matter to you how many children have or are crying out that they were abused by him….because he is your celebrity of choice
Safechuck and Robson are not children they are grown man with a history of lying in court in interviews and in the movie.
It’s a fact that the station did not exist before 1994, two photos made by Steve Starr and AP prove that in addition to the original building permit. (Funk was not referring to that that was issued in Sept 1993 and the station did not exist back then)
Fact is you will never admit that MJ’s accusers are liars no matter what proof shows that they were liars because you want to believe he was a molester.
But there is not a shred of credible evidence he was. There is proof his accusers lied and wanted money though
When and accusers flat out lies about being abused in a building that did not exist for years he is not a victim, he makes up abuse he knew did not happen just for shock value so he could taint the most iconic part of Neverland he is a fraud. Period.
MJ had contact with 100s of children out of those only three accused him AFTER their parents told them to accused him and all those parents wanted ot profit from the allegations.
Robson Safechuck never accused MJ when they were kids o the contrary.
They only changed their story as adults, when they both had financial problems.
They repeatedly lied in court, in interviews in the movie too, changed their story and contradicted even each other. They repeatedly tried to profit from their allegations. They have zero credibility.
Also, there is no proof Jackson was attracted to males, there is proof he was attracted to females.
(and yes it’s a proven fact the station did not exist before 1994 Funk’s interview does to disprove that as he said the photoshoot happened in June 1994 not in 1992 and he was not referring to the original building permit issues in Sept 1994 but addition permits necessary afterwards)
Nonsense. What James did was perfectly okay. If abuse victims are not allowed to mention things they don’t recall in the smallest details, because they might possibly mix up dates and locations where they where abused 30 years ago, they can’t talk about anything.
In fact, nobody should be allowed to talk about anything, not even if it happend just a week ago, because the memory is not something linear.
The memory fills in gaps, adds and subtracts details, etc. to make it a smooth memory and story. This was also a huge problem with the testimony of holocaust survivors. They got trashed by holocaust deniers because sometimes the historical timeline of events diverted from how their memories stored it and thus told what they remembered.
I’m not saying abuse victims are on par with holocaust survivors but this is how the memory works. It’s unreliable. Certainly if there is trauma involved. But would you disregard every trauma victim, no matter what happened to them, because their memory takes leaps?
Well, maybe if you’re a huge disgusting asshole that wants to get a serial sexual childabuser of the hook you might want to try to trash the victims.
This is not about a date or memory lapse!
Safechuck repeately said in court including under oath his alleged abuse happened between 1988 and 1992, age 10 and 14, he said that in the BBC interview and in the movie he says he was replaced by Brett Barnes in 1992. Why? He says because he reached puberty.
The station was built in 1994, photographs by Steve Starr and AP prove that in addition to the building permit in Sept 1993. (Funk did not refer to that permit, but most likely the occupancy permit or additional permits necessary if hey changed the plans
Funk could not remember what exactly was why MJ was still fighting the county when the station was already built it could be many things)
Safechuck in 1994 was well beyond puberty and was bigger than MJ!
He never said he was abused at age 16 AND there is no date he mentioned when he and MJ were even in Neverland in 1994 or 1995!
MJ was living in New york in 1994
Safechuck told many many lies not just this one. Robosn too. They made up allegations when both had financial issues. They lied in court to get around the statutes to get money. Their stories are full of contradictions and provable lies.
If he had been a serial boy molester he couldn’t have gone without molestaion for years when otherwise he had access to boys AND the very boys who spent the most time with him are adamant even today he never did anything even remotely sexual.
Fact is none of MJ’s accusers is even remotely credible when you examine their claims and motives.
The grading permit for the station was issued in Oct 1993.
This desperation to make excuses to this serial liar scumbag is pathetic.
Safechuck is making a mockery of child sex abuse.
So wrong analysis
Hope the title gives you traffick Pumpkin, even if a double negative (rebutte the rebuttal) is not a proof (of the allegation) your claim is not wrong because it supports the claim, « world exclusive » being the innocent bait 😊
Stop being arrogant
Help me please Philo
It does not rebut the rebuttal at all. Funk said the photoshoot was in June 1994 not in 1992 and photos by Steve Starr and AP both prove the station did not exist before 1994.
the buidling permit was issued in Sept 1993 but additional permits could be necessary if they changed the plans, MJ could also refer to the occupancy permit.
Just the first photo already says everything…
Only if you project your sick fantasies onto it. MJ had such photoshoots with girls too. So what do they prove? You really think he was so stupid he did such photoshoots in front of a bunch of people to be published if he molested Safechuck?
What says everything is the fact that Safechuck lied about being molested in a building that did not even exist for years after he said he was last molested in 1992.
And no Funk interview does not prove that the station existed in 1992.
He said on twitter the photoshoot he was talking about was in June 1994
and photographs by Steve Starr and AP prove the station did not exist before 1994.
Starr confirmed it to Mike Smallcombe that he took the photo in Aug 1993
and you can see AP’s photo and the date here yourself:
http://www.apimages.com/metadata/Index/Watchf-AP-A-ENT-CA-USA-APHS240026-Jackson-Never-/1a534dd64259487095d28af48272c163/11/0
Says everything that Safechuck made up abuse he knew did not happen and htis is not the only proven lie he said. He concocted allegations by copying the ideas of NAMBLA pedo Victor Gutierrez, 15 parts of his lawsuit are basically identical to Gutierrez’s book. He was not molested.
But he is soo cuuute
Pumpkin, if you have a high matrix reasoning score (120+), and have high Arithmetic (120+), and have a high WM and Processing speed, but have average scores for the other fluid reasoning subtests, are you still set for difficult math (Calculus, pure math, abstract algebra), computer science, other STEM fields.
Pumpkin person can you estimate my IQ off an online argument?
Micheal Jackson wasn’t a rapist, prove me wrong!
Forgive me if you’re just trolling, but if you think arguments function on “proving someone wrong” then you need to educate yourself more
This is not true, You can watch this youtube video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdmcV_SXZ28, which includes some footage from August 1993. They are mentioning of building a railroad. There is aerial footage with no train station in existence.
Just because they film the part of the property where there is no station doesn’t prove it’s not outside the shot.
Train station was built before railroad
I saw the you wrote people with IQ’s of 106 make 6 figures.
Considering I scored 106 on the perceptual reasoning index, does this that imply that if i were to do something perceptually loaded, that i’ll make six figures?
The station did not exist before 1994 and two photograph proves that one by Steve Starr and one by AP.
The building permit was approved in Sept 1993 and the station did not exist before that. Funk was either mistaken or MJ talked about the occupancy permit or another permit he needed because they altered the original plan or he had issues with the county because the building inspector did not sign off
Funk made it clear the photoshoot he was talking about was in June 1994
not in 1992,
Mike Smallcombe did not put words in Steve Starr’s mouth and AP did not falsify the date of the photo.
RE: Latest Dan Reed antics Pic taken Aug 25 1993 by Steve Starr. No train station. Just spoken to Steve, he confirmed he flew over Neverland in Aug 1993. “That date is accurate. It may be a day or two after it was taken to allow time for processing & captioning color slide film”
Steve Starr added: “I have a few of the original slides and that’s the date stamp. I made one long overflight in a small Robinson helicopter from a nearby airport. Neverland was tightly secured on the ground. I was the Saba Press Photos bureau manager in Los Angeles at the time.”
The reason Starr was flown over Neverland to take the pictures at that time – because the Chandler business had broken in the news on August 23, 1993. I surely shouldn’t have to address this again.
No, this does not support Safechuck’s claim at all.
Harrison Funk already said on twitter the photoshoot he was referring to was in June 1994 not in 1993 let alone 1992 when Safechuck said he was molested.
Funk could refer to occupancy permit, or if they changed the plan after
the initial permit was approved they needed another one or MJ could refer to the building inspector’s approval
you apply for a permit, and with each step, the building inspector has to sign off before you can continue..you can’t use the finished product until everyone has signed off, plumbing, electrical etc, or you can get in trouble
you have to start with the zoning board , to make sure it is an allowable use, apply for a permit, with the plans, and they periodically inspect the work being done and sign off on what you have done as meeting code, final inspection/sign off when work complete
Photographic proof by AP and Steve Starr shows that the station did not exists
before 1994. Starr took the photo on Aug 25 1993 and AP took it on Dec 14 1994
Creation Date:
December 13, 1993 12:00:00 AM
Submission Date:
August 05, 2009 04:33:13 PM
Source:
AP
Credit:
ASSOCIATED PRESS
http://www.apimages.com/metadata/Index/Watchf-AP-A-ENT-CA-USA-APHS240026-Jackson-Never-/1a534dd64259487095d28af48272c163/11/0
Mike Smallcombe asked Steve Starr who confirmed the photo was taken on Aug 25 1993.
RE: Latest Dan Reed antics
Pic taken Aug 25 1993 by Steve Starr. No train station. Just spoken to Steve, he confirmed he flew over Neverland in Aug 1993. “That date is accurate. It may be a day or two after it was taken to allow time for processing & captioning color slide film”
Steve Starr added: “I have a few of the original slides and that’s the date stamp. I made one long overflight in a small Robinson helicopter from a nearby airport. Neverland was tightly secured on the ground. I was the Saba Press Photos bureau manager in Los Angeles at the time.”
The reason Starr was flown over Neverland to take the pictures at that time – because the Chandler business had broken in the news on August 23, 1993. I surely shouldn’t have to address this again.
Safechuck lied. He made it up.
Funk’s response:
You may try to twist public opinion of someone’s character who is no longer here to defend himself but you will not twist my words in defense of my friend Remove your lies Dan.
https://twitter.com/harrisonfunk/status/1120412492738572288
The photo shoot that I was referring to happened in JUNE, 1994, definitely NOT BEFORE. I refuse to engage with the people attempting to twist my words to fit their agenda.
https://twitter.com/harrisonfunk/status/1120408781450559488
Pumpkin, why should we believe this and not an FBI investigation that spanned 13 years, if I remember correctly? Was he not exonerated? Why should I believe in what appears to be a flimsy attempt at concocting a story?
And to me, you seem to be as emotionally invested as a Jackson supporter would be. You claim it’s an absurdity for a victim to remember an exact date, but a year is not an exact date. It’s not absurd to expect someone to get a year right for something as negatively impacting as what he claims.
If Jackson was exonerated, then I can’t buy into this media court nonsense. It’s annoying and emotionally manipulative. Michael can’t defend himself, and this is clearly about money. Safechuck may be the most bearable out of the two, but I haven’t seen anything evidential from the two. I can’t engage in plausible fantasies.
It’s not just the year it’s Safechuck’s and Reed’s entire narrative that MJ lost interest in boys when they reached puberty. This is Safechuk in 1994 when he was 16 when the station was built. He was well beyond puberty to say the least. He never said in 5 years since he filed his claim that he was molested at age 16!
He also lied about being molested in beds in the castle and the arcade.
Brad Sunberg and Allan Scanlan, two employees who knew Neverland in and out confirmed there were never beds in those buildings.
Safechuck made it all up.
It’s hilarious that you believe MJ could build that entire station without any building permit and somehow got the construction company to do something that illegal.
Ridiculous.
The building permit was issues in Sept 1993.
Station did not exist before that.
Construction started after Sept 1993.
Funk did the photoshoot in June 1994.
His memory and his wording do not trump photographic proof and common sense.
Vulcan its clear to me some people have certain agenda. Pumpkin has always had a problem with white people and white entertainers.
if someone actually raped oprah, oprah should pay him damages.
Only because she would use her high IQ to rip your nuts off. When asked what to do if someone tried to rape her oprah without missing a beat responded “wait until they take their pants off than grab their testicles”. The audience roared with approval
Pumpkin, do you think Muhammad Ali’s actual IQ was 78 (85 if it’s real norms). Some sources say that he could have been malingering to avoid going into the army.
Also, what would you tell someone who has an above average Processing Speed and Working memory, but average Verbal and Perceptual IQ, for a composite IQ of 120?
I wrote an article on Ali’s IQ so you can just read that. As for your second question, I wouldn’t tell them anything because there hasn’t been enough research. But my guess is they’d be good at a job that requires multi-tasking.
I guess it takes a really high IQ – and I’m being half-serious about this – to be perfectly fine with going after a great black icon, as a black person. I’m not sure if I would even go there; again, not very tribal, but I take the indifferent route, and won’t think negatively of black figures considered paragons, until evidence is too much to bear.
Oprah is a successful, crazy, liberal, which together is pretty much a marker for high IQ. She was also friends with Weinstein, and you really need to have a high IQ to be completely oblivious about Weinstein’s character. Rather, because of her high IQ – as is typical for people with high IQs that are liberal – they confound themselves with their undying affection for nuance and subtlety, as it’s how they’re able to talk down to people. They’re too high-minded to think with a basic, and non-contrived, understanding of things.
So for that, I will give Oprah an IQ of 134. I don’t want you to have the satisfaction of 99th percentile.
Are you black?
Yeah
“and you really need to have a high IQ to be completely oblivious about Weinstein’s character.”
You also really need to have a high IQ to understand the subtle humor in Rick and Morty.
this is why black women find italian men too wimpy.
not to mention…short.
🙂
Pumpkin what do I do with a perceptual iq of 106?
HELP ME!
How about you worry about doing well in school and taking advantage of IQ’s malleability while you still can? You do this by reading and practicing basic arithmetic and geometry.
Read books. Do mental math; there are tons of apps on iOS for that. And get Euclid’s elements of geometry. All while studying for the SAT. Stop wasting time.
I’m taking a iq test again in two weeks.
I’ll tell you my results Bill.
I’m reading the thing you recommended.
On lumosity, I score 99 percentile on the arithmetic, so my mental math isn’t bad.
I’ve memorized 100 most common sat words these past couple days.
I’ll continue to read brothers Karamazov.
Is iq really malleable at this age?
You’re 15 right? By about 18 is when the range for your adult IQ will be set, I believe. 18-25 is really when your adult IQ takes shape – fluid IQ peaks at about 25. This may not be the best time – you’re really making a last minute effort, at this point – but better late than never. So yes, your IQ is still malleable at this age, but not by much and your time is running out.
Also, download brain workshop. Working memory is probably the most malleable aspect of your IQ. There is actually a meta-analysis done that shows that it can be improved slightly for adults, even. Since you’re still a kid, you might be able to gain more from it. Also note that this will take years. Make this a journey along with your academics. Do the best you can before you turn 18.
To use Brain workshop properly, press C to choose the game mode; arrow-key all the way to interference, and press space to get it to 100%. Do a session a day, preferably. It’s just like going to the gym, so don’t expect results until maybe 3 months. Working memory is probably the most important thing when it comes to academic performance: its your learning and execution of knowledge. Practicing mental math does a similar thing, but this is the best way; do both.
And whatever you get from your results, treat that as your starting point and DO NOT be discouraged if its low, or even complacent if it turns out to be high.
Good luck.
Since you said you’re pretty good at mental math, try reading this book:
Alright brother i’ll do all the things you’ve told me to do.
Obviously, this is personal for me, and some may say that I’m not the right messenger. But my perspective is not just that of a former candidate and target of the Russian plot. I am also a former senator and secretary of state who served during much of Vladimir Putin’s ascent, sat across the table from him and knows firsthand that he seeks to weaken our country.
-Hilary Clinton
Is this russia thing still being pushed. Thought the Mueller report exonerated trump from being a russian spy.
If you want my opinion I think theres a massive conspiracy against the western and amerian public, yes 100%.
[redacted by pp, April 24, 2019]
There are many conspiracies against the American public & most are largely independent of each other. There’s no single master running them all
Pumpkin, if a figure weights subtest is taken untimed, will most people solve all of the questions correctly?
Most would do a lot better
Is there any quantitative reasoning test you know of that isn’t timed, and that can be taken online?
Pumpkin don’t ignore me. 😦
I read that you scored much better on the perceptual reasoning than on vocabulary just like me.
Help me out brotherrrrr.
I told you to do something visual. What do people tell you you’re good at? What are you interested in?
Well I know you can’t really go into detail about what I should do without the subtest scores, but soon you will because I’ll be sharing you my results on the new iq test I’ll be taking.
My psychologist believes I’m smart enough to go to college and he went to Harvard.
Can you maybe boil it down to one career putting into consideration my perceptual iq of 106 and by below average verbal, ps and wm?
And what are the chances ill score 89 again.
I mean based of my writing to you think I have a verbal iq of 83?
interesting:
auditing strike & mike last night and neither could calculate what fraction $500k was of $20m.
weird.
to me they sound smarter than any MSM “front office” journalists.
and i’d still bet they ARE…on what peepee calls “official IQ tests”.
just multiply both by 5 morons!
or just 0.5 goes into 20 40 times…1/40th is 2.5%…etc.
the arithmetic subtest is the LEAST flynned iirc.
maybe because calculators.
i remember this in high school. kids just said “duh!” because calculators…i assumed at the time.
peepee is one of those weird black women who prefers chinamen.
she might be into filipinos or japanese or thais or malays. idk.
but it’s sick!
sick!
Pumpkin, why is it that people tested by the WAIS people also showed a negative practice effect? Wouldn’t the WAIS people only administer the test when the test subject are in the best conditions they possibly can be in? Also, the average practice effect score wouldn’t be the increase most people get. Since only about 57 percent of the population improved, wouldn’t the average increase of that population be more valid of a practice effect to expect?
Also, on the similarities subtest, what if you had the correct reasoning for a question, but you didn’t explain you answer properly, is that technically an underestimate of your verbal reasoning, since most people who know the answers can probably explain the answers correctly.
Pumpkin, do 120 IQ kids have to work hard in school? I see many people who have high IQs saying they pretty much fucked around in school, would this be the case of the 120 IQ kid?
Nope. I’m in the 120s and high school was still challenging at times. College was an immediate fail if I didn’t study. Even an easy elective like Health in college was a bit demanding just to get an A. You could easily slip and fall.
To be one of those “I never studied but I still made As (and Bs)” kid you really need a 135+ IQ. No way around it.
Do you think this includes math? Or is math ability less plastic/more effort per improvement??
I didn’t find math up to calculus conceptually difficult, but math is more about employing strategies. If you don’t have a full grasp on the interconnectedness of strategic components, then you’re going to have a rough time. This will require constant studying. Why cal 2 was so disastrous for me; I put last minute efforts into studying – did book problems, but it was simply not enough. Math is about being attentive, and that requires so much practice that I’ve never seen an Asian who was obviously very smart not treat studying math like serious business.
Math is about detail in the lower levels. I do quite shittily on tests in my advanced Algebra 2 class because I don’t really pay attention, nor do I really own (understand where they came from) the concepts, and I generally BS homework. I kind of gent on in class, but I only get the easy problems correct- harder problems require work.
How hard does a high school kid with a 120 IQ have to work?
Does practicing mental math really improve working memory?
At your age, practicing math is one way to improve working memory, but it’s not a sure-fire thing; another would be to do Dual-N-Back training using http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/ software, with interference set to 100%. Your best bet to improve working memory will be dual-n-back.
You can only improve what you have the potential to improve. IQ tests don’t give you a potential, but assess your current intellectual ability. Having a plotted trajectory from a very young age to now is how you determine whether or not you still have room to grow. If you don’t have at least two tests from two different stages of your life before 18, then you can only assume that you still have the potential to increase. Don’t waste these precious years. Be studious; work hard. The change will be obvious, I think. If you show considerable academic improvements, I think it will be a testament of your improved IQ.
@Billy If I may ask, how hard did you work in High School in your science and math classes. In an advanced Math class, I can generally not pay attention, BS my homework, kind of grab a gist of what’s happening in class, cram and get a C, same with Science. Is this normal for a 120 IQ kid. I’m a big picture thinker, and I’m shit with details. Math concepts aren’t too hard, I forget tiny ass things, which if I didn’t forget those, I’d get 80s from doing what I’m doing. My teacher commented on my horrible work ethic and said my approach to math sucks (which it does).