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Open thread, week ending July 1, 2018
26 Tuesday Jun 2018
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/29/retirees-returning-to-jamaica-face-extreme-risk-say-police
Keep saying its genetic. Nobody will listen.
RR do you think certain personality types are heritable? And if so, across races?
Are you asking if genes influence personality? The claim that personality traits are heritable rests on the false notion that the degree to which the effects of environmental influences are shared by twins is the same for MZ twins as it is for DZ twins. The claim is false. So claims of “The genetic inheritance of personality traits” are false since they’re derived from twin estimates—the EEA is false.
Puppys enemies list is quite large now:
All the people he banned
The KKK
Phil Donahue
Ellen Degeneres
Riki Lake
The EU antitrust regulators that ruled against Bill Gates
Mel Gibson
And now, sadly, Chris Langan
No chris and i go back. I knew him on the Internet before either of us were famous. He’s the bees knees.
Check out this first of its kind study on the IQ of swedish parliament members and mayors that I have found
Click to access Draft170103.pdf
And this study of the chance of holding a patent in Finland by visual spacial IQ assessed at military induction.
http://cepr.org/active/publications/discussion_papers/dp.php?dpno=12496
And i don’t dislike any of those people, except the kkk.
Why do you dislike the KKK?
Cause they terrorized innocent people
How do you know they were innocent?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_Street_Baptist_Church_bombing
World Cup is very good this year. All the african teams went out the first round. IN YOUR FACE FORMER COMMENTER. HAHAHAHAHA
given that africans have the most athletic ability, why do they suck so bad at football? Bad intra-team cooperation?
Malnutrition + high leg/height ratio
They did bad because the referees and teams opposing them were RACIST.
What’s racist about wanting blacks to have the same rights as whites? The referees had a hidden agenda but they were still on the right side of history in this case. Blacks didnt ask to come to America. They’re not illegal immigrants or even voluntarily immigrants. They were dragged to the U.S. kicking & screaming.
”high leg/height ratio”
are you saying this affects football performance?
If by football you mean soccer, then yes
Because the best players of African descent play for European national teams. The guy who helped French beat the Argentinian national team was of Nigerian descent. Pogba, also another outstanding player, is of African descent. European teams benefit quite a bit from migrant players. No doubt that anatomy plays a part in why African teams are not quite as good as their European counterparts but it can’t be said that they aren’t close to being on equal footing.
I honestly don’t know. Most studies I’ve read show that young soccer players have an abundance of type IIa fibers (e.g., Mextaxas et al, 2014 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4126283/). Cardenas-Fernandez et al (2017) write:
For that, a total of 174 male young soccer players were evaluated anthropometrically. Dominant somatotype of the players was, according to their playing position: meso-endomorphic in goalkeepers, central for external defenders, balanced ectomorph in central defenders, balanced mesomorph in the case of midfielders, and meso-ectomorph in forwards/extremes.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28723818
It’s an interesting question and I’ll take a full look at it soon.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/29/collin-martin-minnesota-united-comes-out-gay
This is the SJW one today.
I suspect there are a lot more gay footballers at the top level. Lots of gossip around some of the German national team in particular.
As a conspiracy theory
Some conservative commentators in the West argue that “political correctness” and multiculturalism are part of a conspiracy with the ultimate goal of undermining Judeo-Christian values. This theory, which holds that political correctness originates from the critical theory of the Frankfurt School as part of a conspiracy that its proponents call “Cultural Marxism”, is generally known as the Frankfurt School conspiracy theory by academics.[73] The theory originated with Michael Minnicino’s 1992 essay “New Dark Age: Frankfurt School and ‘Political Correctness'”, published in a Lyndon LaRouche movement journal.[74] In 2001, conservative commentator Patrick Buchanan wrote in The Death of the West that “political correctness is cultural Marxism”, and that “its trademark is intolerance”.
Jesus. They’re calling it a ‘conspiracy theory’ now. Its FUCKIN OBVIOUS political correctness is about censorship and mind control. Only a brainwashed person would call it a conspiracy theory because it raises the question that if I can’t explain how it came to be, whats your explanation of how it started in a ‘racist’ majority white america.
Even in their own histiography, they can’t explain how PC happened.
The only way to explain it is the ‘conspiracy theory’, Of course, even this watered down version says ‘Frankfurt School’ instead of the more obvious label.
Regarding the Frankfooter school, Adorno was correct to say Americans are mind controlled via consumerism. Proles from the various class spectrum are affected.
Groups who oppose certain generally accepted scientific views about evolution, second-hand tobacco smoke, AIDS, global warming, race, and other politically contentious scientific matters have used the term “political correctness” to describe what they view as unwarranted rejection of their perspective on these issues by a scientific community they feel is corrupted by liberal politics
Wow.
How can you not say there isn’t censorship of science? Im not an expert on climate change stuff so Ill leave that to the side, but most of science as it relates to human beings is banned or you have joke ‘findings’.
Conservatives might disagree about how the world was made or evolution, but they dont ban people from saying it or studying it. On the other hand liberals do ban people researching crime, race, economic issues and genetics.
I genuinely like listening to Donald Trump talking. Even if i didnt have the same views. I remember when I was a liberal I was bored listening to Barack Obama. Most of Obamas speeches could be written by me as a joke. But I cant mimic Trump.
“We as Americans, have to recognise our true strength is in the values we have held so dear. Oppenness, diversity, compassion. These are the values that our future must be built on and nourished. Our children blah bhfcccqw0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000ERROR ERROR
You (Probably) Don’t Exist
penisson is a great example of jews selecting autistic gentiles to promote jewish interests.
eric weinstein makes penisson look retarded.
I’m still waiting on Pumpkin to finally reproduce. He is almost 40 Shepherd the next generation ffs.
I’ve been reading more about this and it seems Fenoopy was more or less right that there are two broad camps in the jewish elites. I had long suspected this, but I didn’t have a term or typology for it.
I already explained it you: the two camps are conservative Jews vs liberal Jews, or put more concretely, Israeli firsters vs diaspora firsters.
These two groups are not at all opposed to eachother and there’s considerable overlapp between them, but each prioritizes its own interests above the other’s
So george soros is a diaspora firster so he supports obama but hates trump
Sheldon adelson is an Isreal firster so he hates obama but loves trump
The neocons are both so they hate both obama & trump but like Clinton & GW Bush
Fenoopy thinks the two camps are tribalists vs communists but that’s nonsense in my opinion
A theory of morality, insofar as you believe it shouldn’t be just ‘feewings’ (because by definition, women would always be more moral, in general, and whites, in general as a race) would have to have some sort of barometer for objectivity. Previously I mentioned how aesthetics is something intuitive, hard to fake, and generally true and so can be a kind of compass. But the ultimate truth, that is intuitive, and hard to fake, is reality. What has happened, what is happening and so on. So second plank Im adding to the fire is truth.
Morality is:
Aesthetical pleasing
Truthful
X
X
X
Over time Ill add to this. Its a complicated topic. Im sure liberals would say that morality should be ‘just’. This is worth considering. What is just? Render unto Caesar what is his, and god what is his kingdom? Is it simply point trading on who has ‘hurt’ who over a period of time? ‘Justice’ seems more the former to me. That is, it is almost like natural law in that people should get what they are, earn, become. Its a consequence. It should not be trading pokemon cards and ‘point settling’ Criminal justice is point settling in many countries, not rendering unto Caesar as such. But revolutions and national independence movements are more the first category.
The point of this is that to me criminal justice should be the Ceaser rule. We kill a serial killer in the electric chair not because he killed X many people. But because a world with a dangerous person such as this walking around, is less viable. That is, the state, as a ‘predator’ is taking out a smaller ‘predator’. This is an ersatz natural order. And of course, in hunter gather communites, exile and death are similar treatment to serial killers.
Neithsche is right. Justice cannot be about ‘protecting the weak’ as such. (a) because only the strong or clever define what is weak anyway, as now and (b) its not very darwinistic and therefore not viable over the long run. I wonder what Niethsche would think of disabled parking spaces. You cant apply the Caeser rule to it, because the space doesn’t ‘naturally belong’.
You would say its just basic decency to aid a disabled person. But thats not objective. Its not truthful, Therefore its not moral.
So I think maybe we create another category for ‘acts of politeness, and decency’, but don’t allow the label ‘morality’ to be attached to these acts and thoughts and presumptions. These are subjective. Things like mercy:
“The quality of mercy is not strained.
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
‘Tis mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes
The thronèd monarch better than his crown.
His scepter shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
But mercy is above this sceptered sway.”
Mercy is not an objective phenomenon. It can’t be put into an algorithm for AI. On this basis its a special case because some people would have the opinion that certain actions always warrant mercy. There is some ‘decision rule’ nature to it.
The fact that you have to intellectualize your morality implies you’re a psychopath. For non-psychopaths morality is emotional.
Its the opposite Im afraid.
A related issue is one of epistemology. A question arises: how should a thing be defined.
Im using a bullet point list to define ‘morality’. I.e. it meets these conditions, therefore it is morality.
Is a bullet list the best way to go about this? Theres a split in western legal theory between the napoleonic bullet point way and the ‘precedent’ common law way.
If you are an alien visitng from Venus and you ask what is moral? Will you be happier with a person who responds with a bullet point list or a person who gives you a few examples?
Maybe we need to grade understanding on the aliens part. At the junior novice level, his understanding should be bullet points, and then later as through lived experience on Earth, he would make more intuitive decisions based on examples and principles. And so epistemology is a question of the person and how he can learn rather than whether the thing is ‘learnable’.
Well, the problem with ‘feewings’ pumpkin is that some people have ‘feewings’ to hurt people just as much as some people have ‘feewings’ to help refugees.
Both people will go to court and say my feewings made me do it.
Pre the 1960s, the 1st guy is ‘moral’ if you poll an audience. Post the 1960s, the picture is more muddied.
So basically being born before or after the 1960s defines whether you are immoral or not.
This is not logical Pumpkin.
Its not moral Pumpkin. Think about it.
The more compassion you FEEL for more people, the less psychopathic you are.
Of course you’re right that media can manipulate by showing only the pain of refugees and not showing the pain of the American workers displaced by them but this only works if the audience is nonpsychopathic
Of course psychopaths can be brainwashed too, but you have to appeal to anger not compassion
peepee speaks 9 languages and has read all the world’s holy books.
An ontology of something resolves to decision rules usually. Decision rules that are vague and arbitrary are things we all wouldn’t like. About physical laws or court decisions.
Being schooled in a 1930s classroom and a 1990s classroom seems pretty arbitrary to me. You then start getting into a swamp about whether people born in the 1500s were even less ‘moral’ than people born in the 1600s, assuming whigean progression in ‘moral learning’.
And so you get the kind of ridiculous statement that society today is the most moral in world history.
And tomorrow, society will be even more moral.
Im not trying to be cute. Passage of time shouldn’t be a factor. What im really saying is that we have to ask why perspectives changed over the passge of time and whether it was logical to do so. And if its not ‘logical to do so’, what is your criteria for grading ‘better morality’.
I have 2 bullet point criteria. You have ‘what Oprah said’.
any one know a publisher im trying to write and promote an e book How to get a girl pregnant in 30 days the 4-4-4 rule
Lets move away from Napoleon and go Anglo. Lets take a real life example – attitudes towards the gay community.
When I was growing up, peoples worst insults were ‘faggot’ and ‘you are gay’ and gay people were in the closet or became priests to ‘iron them out’ as the Bible said that.
Im not religious.
But I sometimes get these feelings and sometimes I don’t.
Today, I think we all agree most younger kids of the same town, same IQs, same age and so on have different attitudes to gays, which are basically media conditioned, instead of religiously.
What Id like Santo to explain or Puppy is whether the people I grew up with are truly more immoral than the people afterwards. To me the people I grew up with are less brainwashed to ‘feel’ those feelings towards gays. By puppy emotional criteria, these people are more ‘moral’.
This is the crux. I keep asking Santo this, and he basically says its about ‘deceny and respect;. As I said above, I don’t think these notions are morality.
Yes, but women feel more than men in general for people. And whites more than say, north africans. So you would then agree white woman are more moral than minority men, always in general?
It follows, most judges and politicans should be white women to ensure a moral order.
Basically being born a woman who is white determines whether you are moral in Puppy land.
You might be right though. But I’d like a logical explanation for why empathy is the highest form of morality.
Morality is a religious/philosophical term. I know little about those topics so i try to use the word psychopathy instead of morality
Psychopaths literally have differently wired brains and so it’s harder to get them to feel compassion
People from the hick town you grew up in were not necessarily psychopaths, they just weren’t exposed to as much media that activated their compassion for blacks, jews & gays
True psychopaths are those who are exposed to sympathetic images but still feel no compassion, though some non-psychopaths might feel no compassion, if like you, they suspect they’re being manipulated
Compassion for the evil, is a vice, not a virtue.
What determines evil and good.
Morality,
Back to the original proposition.
yeah!
that’s a yuge problem for the prevailing explanations of the nazis…
no political group has ever been more empathic…for animals.
the nazis made PETA look like a carolina pig farmer.
Hitler and other nazis were actually not psychopaths:
maybe it’s genetic.
my mother still cries thinking of her dogs. she can’t control herself. she wishes my brother an i had been dogs.
deal with that!
try competing with an irish setter in a beauty contest!
lose!
i would too if i had a memory. thanks alcohol.
my dad is gonna die in the next 48h from cause unknown…
except he refuses to eat and is very thin as a result…but not concentration camp level.
not yet.
fucking doctors can’t admit when they don’t know.
He probably has some neurological condition related to your high GRE scores & your brother’s fast choice reaction time, kind of like the Jewish high IQ diseases cochran hypothesized
what do you know about my brother peepee?
Only what you’ve stated here.
anyway…
the doctor said my dad has died.
everything points to my dad’s and his brother’s problem NOT being genetic.
[redacted by pp, july 2, 2018]
Sends love to Mugabe’s brother and dad. ❤
Morality is normative. It’s an intentional mental state. People “intend to be” moral to others; this means it cannot be the target of selection since morality is linked to desire and desire (both of which are mental states) are irreducible to brain states.
i’m sorry to read that, mugs.
i offer my sincere condolences.
Democrats asking for the abolition of the Immigration Border Patrol Agency. This is madness. I never thought they would get to that point. They now might as well say, the USA does not exist anymore, only United Latina and North America. Whoever is still voting democrat needs to reassess who the party is really working for. Hint: Danes.
Trump also supports Danes, just not the diaspora ones. You can’t become president without supporting one camp or the other
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/abolish-ice-new-rallying-cry-progressive-democrats-n885501
Wow.
The article unsuprisingly seems to be goading dems to support the position.
Not very suprirising NBC is not as keen on a $15 minimum wage or binning NAFTA which would be much more humanitarian.
free trade makes everyone richer.
i learned this from ayn rand.
Between 1,000 A.D. and 1800 A.D.
40 percent of the European population was killed off at 1 percent a year the most violent people. 30 percent of the population was replaced by the nobility having more kids than the peasantry. That is why so many people today have nobility last names.
morality is internal, not external
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA0XGVjQtQM
Swank and Phil,
What are your thoughts?
Especially at:
3:01, 5:02, 6:15, 7:17.
mine were that continental Africans include east africans from war zones and extreme poverty.
The argument against CAT scores is interesting, but you could say that african american scores on the CogAT7 doesnt have a representative sample or Afros old point that African american avarage IQ is higher with coming generations.
looks like england in the final for the first time since 1966. but will lose badly to whoever gets there from the other half of the bracket. i’m rooting uruguay but expect france. france vs england in the final. awesome!
Yeah its their best shot in 50 years.
Mugabe/Name redacted by pp, June 30, 2018 ,
Why dont you belive in the Wilson effect?
Take up the White Man’s burden—
Send forth the best ye breed—
Go send your sons to exile
To serve your captives’ need
To wait in heavy harness
On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child
Take up the White Man’s burden
In patience to abide
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple
An hundred times made plain
To seek another’s profit
And work another’s gain
Take up the White Man’s burden—
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better
The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah slowly) to the light:
“Why brought ye us from bondage,
“Our loved Egyptian night?”
Take up the White Man’s burden-
Have done with childish days-
The lightly proffered laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years,
Cold-edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
“The White Man’s Burden’ was meant to both encourage and warn the United States. In Kipling’s view, imperialism was not just a way for countries to grab power; it was also a form of humanitarianism, a way to help less fortunate people around the world. Kipling’s poem explained that as an advanced nation, the United States was responsible for educating and civilizing the native peoples it now controlled. ”
I always assumed the poem was about British involvement in India or Africa. Not the US involvement in Cuba.
Its a very interesting poem knowing what we know now 100 years later.
Teddy Roosevelt apparently agreed with it.
[redacted by pp, July 2, 2018]
whatever….it’s correct.
no one AXED ya’ll to do a slavery.
Step 5: Group Discussion
Read the “found” poems with partners or group members and discuss what statements they make about imperialism. If you worked individually, how many of the chosen key words and phrases were the same, and how many were different? How did different people use the same words/phrases? What types of responses do you think your poems would have generated if written in the late nineteenth or early twentieth centuries?
[redacted by pp, July 2, 2018]
I remember talking to a guy in work last year and he said he really would like to read more about the frankfurt school. I didn’t say anything in case we’d have an argument in the office.
I remember my manager said he watched hidden figures and it was a good movie. And I said, ‘yeah Ill probably go watch that eventually’.
In my head I said: “this person is a danger to himself and his family”.
This is really funny. An indian company with a boilerplate diversity video. Hahaha. They actually have a white guy as their only example of dviersity. HAHAHAHAHA. I couldn’t stop laughing.
Every company I have worked for has a video on their recruitment section like this.
They should basically, instead of wasting money on these videos saying to the world they are not racist, just say 1st line of their recruitment: WE HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE FOR THE JOB.
But thats not enough for our danish friends. They need affirmations. Like any cult does.
And so, we need a video explaining why diversity in an Indian company makes it successful,
Identity politics is the kind of politics that leads groups of people to split and remove themselves from an empire.
This is precisely the intention behind it.
The other part of it is sensitivity training for barbarians and people with very different personalities and beliefs so that no matter how strange they are, you have to sit there and say, “this makes me stronger”.
Obama got elected for making great speeches. I can’t remember 1 thing he said in them beyond “I have a dream, that a little white etc etc” type medley.
Trumpy is the anti Obama.
Actually its more accurate to say Trumpy is the anti Clinton/Bush.
George HW Bush voted for hilary. He admitted it.
No you were right the first time. He’s the anti Obama. Obama hated Bibi. Trump sucks Bibi’s cock. But despite sucking Bibi’s cock and leaving all his money to Israel, Jewish Americans still prefer Obama because he’s more stabilizing and because Trump’s nationalist policies make Jews and all minorities very nervous.
I wonder what Gates thinks about Trump leaving all his money to Israel. “I prefer to leave my money to people who actually need it,” Gates would probably say.
why does india suck so hard at all sports?
1+ billion people and…
suck!
they can’t even beat australia at cricket.
why?
severe malnutrition + genes for small body size
I read in the inductivist site they had the smallest hand grit on earth . Strongest people are Icelandic and Mongols. It’s interesring to see it’s not categorized by macro-race .
“genes for” small body size would indicate success at certain sports based just on their body type.
“I read in the inductivist site they had the smallest hand grit on earth . Strongest people are Icelandic and Mongols. It’s interesring to see it’s not categorized by macro-race .”
Grip strength correlates highly with overall strength but it’s still not a sufficient tell. See:
Why do you hate them for sucking at sports or because they have a low IQ?. Would you rather have indians have a high IQ or excel at sports?. I am guessing no. You will hate them even more then. So be happy indians are low IQ or suck at sports and everything.
Before Trumpy i have to be honest and say I bought all the nonsense about free trade. I remember reading Paul Krugmans blog and he said the TPP will prob increase GDP by 0.1% and he didn’t understand why it was an important thing.
Krugmans new trade theory is a significant improvement on Hecksher Ohlin or Ricardo.
But actually the best view is the most cyncial. “Free Trade” de facto means american MNCs making stuff in Mexico/China and ‘trading’ it back into America The amount of taxes lost with transfer pricing and all the accounting gimmicks as well as the jobs and social decay far offsets the increase to shareholders bank accounts.
Most sharesholders are pension funds. And most pension funds are run actively and therefore are a scam.
Then ‘economists’ who are mentally retarded and autistic sit around and say – trade has increased 400% since the 1980s, why is the middle class getting smaller?
I know.
NOT ENOUGH FREE TRADE!!
I remember George Bush tried to privatize social security. Hahaha, what would Bush not do for the jews?!
It kind of defeats the purpose of it, if you say a fund manager gets to gamble with retiree money.
Its value as an annuity payment far exceeds any possible gains from active management.
https://reason.com/
To be fair to the libertarians they seem smarter than most MSM. I don’t agree with them on a lot but their reasoning, if you accept their la la land ideas, does make sense. This is not a site run by danes IMO. Theres an ideological consistency here.
“She also wants to abolish ICE, but that’s not really a socialist-specific idea: We libertarians want to abolish ICE, too, whereas Sanders, who can’t quite bring himself to support the elimination of a government program, does not.”
One supports abolishing the border because of being mind controlled by high IQ trolls, and the libertarians actually think its a good principle not to have a border.
I genuinely can’t decide which is the dumber group of the two.
Theres something I never got an answer to from libertarians. If you say borders stop free movement, How will you know you will have de facto free movement without a state?
I.e. if states didn’t exist. What do you think the reaction to refugees would be by native people?
I would guess a lot more like Zulu dawn.
If you just turn up in most asian countries you are deported immediately.
Another thing libertarians dont ever answer is limited liability. If corporations become legally incorporated as limited liability entities and so on, why should a state enforce it? Its pretty socialist to say a company shouldn’t have to pay its debts and the slate it wiped clean in a bankrupcy.
Patents and intellectual property rights is another good way to tease our autistic friends.
It’s only socialist if those types of contracts wouldn’t prevail in a ‘free market.’ So if every sales contract came with a ‘limited liability’ clause and all customers agreed to it on purchase, there’s no socialism at all.
There is a such a thing as a natural monopoly in intellectual property, i.e. the genius his or herself.
So the genius could contract with all parties interested in the genius’s work to limited distribution, sale, etc. of the work.
It all comes down to whether people would freely agree to all these terms via contract.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYgJL0d4eGs
Theres an italian economist female, cant remember the name that wrote one of the few articles I ever read in college worth reading saying the best economies have a government that acts like an entrepreneur – i.e. brings people/resources together for the whole.
State management is not an empirical economic failure. Korea/Japan are great examples.
Basically for 30-40 years Allen Dulles people have sowed US economics academia with plantation owner extremists. And the jews, having become wealthy, became neoliberals overnight.
But if you were objective and not paid to say what Master says, you would clearly see its obvious the government should get involved a lot. In fact, it works best when the highest IQ people work for the government, not the private sector and are patriotic.
Japan would never have modernised if its best minds during the Meiji Restoration worked in silos for Toyoda or Mitsubishi or whatever their predecessor entities were. The smartest people were the civil servants bringing the prussians in to teach them everything and to reform education and healthcare.
I think Im right in saying Japan had the worlds first nationalised healthcare.
The japanese industry groups kaizen were basically co planned with civil servants. There is a pretty grey line between government and corporation in asia. In times of war, these entities are forced to make armaments and such for soldiers. But in peace time, they’re pretty much told what to make as well. Its partly to do with ‘hivemind’ genetics/culture.
So when Milton Friedman says to asian countries to deregulate, they literally can’t conceive of what he means.
They did listen to him on deregulating their financial system. That worked out very well for Japan hahahahaha.
Friedman is right. But he doesnt know why hes right. The boy should have said, if you the indian is living in a shanty town and can’t read and wipes his ass with his hand, even if he has incentives, how can he act on them?
Therefore, you need some redistribution.
But not between nations….
Yeah the kid is stupid. 100% inheritance taxes are extreme. But you do need progressive inheritance taxes. The problem is that if Bill Gates leaves 60bn to his daughter, she probably wont have any incentive to produce or work.
Friedman would say, the idea of giving his daughter economic freedom was the incentive he had to work in life.
But I would just say it was autism on his and Gates part.
Anyone not autistic would know Gates would have worked with computers as an obsessive anyway.
Its far better you take some money from Rockefeller and fund a public library programme for young Bill Gates nerds to follow their passions, than let Abby Rockefeller donate all her money to Africa or some other weird cult.
i’m gonna have to shake down the doctors tomorrow.
my brother is fredo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaABMX3oZr4
Friedman doing stand up comedy. Hes very good. Just goes to show jews are the funniest people.
1:90-2:10 is a comedy classic. Its like something I would say in a parody.
Friedman says the only thing stopping blacks being wealthy is the government hahaha.
If people weren’t coerced by the Supreme Court/Lyndon Johnson like they are now, we’d basically still have Jim Crow….and we actually do have it de facto in education, housing and many non corporate positions. What is he talking about? Hahaha.
If there was no government in america and you had something like individual state governments. We might even still have slavery in some parts of america.
Yeah libertarians say some counterintuitive things. Ayn Rand said the only reason we have monopolies is government.
He’s not wrong. Even from a historical perspective, multiple centuries of State-enforced slavery have an effect on a population’s future generations. Not only that, but State-enforced attempts to keep a population poor, unrepresented, and unheard, have an effect, as well. Why people ignore this, I don’t know.
wrt monopolies…
The government itself is a monopoly on force. Patents are an explicit monopoly backed by the power of the government.
The optimistic view of Marx is that civilization must use violence to incentivize the ‘right’ types of people to direct the population and to incentivize the other types to work to support the population. At the start, more raw power is necessary and there’s less of a surplus, so the winner-take-all favors chieftains and whatever, and as more ‘soft diplomatic’ skills become necessary, we get Kings and nobles, and then ‘entrepeneurs,’ etc. And the incentive is protection and power — not unlike being made. If you get ‘made,’ the entire apparatus of the state and its gang protects you from competition, etc.
Eventually this process will favor, I don’t know…’working class popular kids’ or people who are like WWE wrestlers….
maybe Donald Trump is the beginning of the revolution.
If there was no government in america and you had something like individual state governments.
You’re not arguing against Friedman’s point. He would agree. You’re just talking about other governments, and so, yes, they would generally be up to the same coercion.
^^ More Jewish nonsense.
The government forced the end of Jim Crow in the south, not the people. The brit abolished slavery for the portuguese and spanish effectively too or in newly independent Brazil.
Monopolies exist naturally as well.
Monopolies exist naturally as well.
No they don’t. That’s just more rhetoric utilized to justify more government encroachment into industry and the creation of new ‘monopolies.’
‘Well shucks, it was gonna happen anyway!’
But hey, I’m open for EMPIRICAL counter-examples: name ONE producer achieving lower average total costs vs the ENTIRE industry and then establishing a permanent monopoly WITHOUT ANY regulatory help.
And you say others are brainwashed.
Of course, the “free market” is nonsense because all markets are creations of the State in one way or another.
I’m not saying libertarians are silly. I’m just saying that you’re even sillier, Ronnie.
*aren’t
Friedman is making a kind of onthological error here. Hes saying government should be colourblind, but stands there as a jew who benefited from the civil rights act. I don’t think Friedman or libertarians recognise that there would be ‘regulations’ or impediments to people engaging in economic activity in a non state world. If you go to Africa, plenty of tribes discriminate against each other and in fact you need the state to enforce colourblindedness like in Singapore by rota.
But the error is even more profound if you don’t consider colourblindedness a virtue. Which I don’t. I think people have a moral right to discriminate and be ‘racist’.
In fact I think being tribal caused civilisation in the first place and a modern economy. Rome was built for romans. Its pretty obvious to me.
Rome just happened to benefit a lot of people in the years later.
An onthological type error is taking something that exists and assuming its existence would be the same if it didn’t exist Puppy. Very important you understand this logic lesson.
my dad’s situation is why you should never leave anything important to fredo.
it’s not enough to obey.
ala stanley crouch…
if someone tells you to do something…
don’t do it.
man…i actually went with my dad to the death bed of some ancient negress. it was her kidneys…black folk need lawyers…
whatever…
Unless Ed Meese is talking…
it happened irl…In Real Life…
i pulled up to the stop near lewis & clark law school and i saw a plate…
TSMonk
no kidding.
i honked and gave a thumbs up.
we love you black people.
as long as you’re a fucking genius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4X5folutT8
Monk’s IQ was probably 80-90. He was obviously stupid, muggy. Get your facts straight.