Back in June 2015, Lion of the Blogosphere labelled the Dylann Roof massacre an example of low IQ white-trash beta-male rage and also stated that the primary difference between Roof and fellow spree killer Elliot Rodger is that “Rodger was pretty smart and wrote an excellent autobiography”. Earlier Lion had pegged Rodger’s IQ at an above average 115-120, so he likely thought Roof was substantially below this.
Thus, when a recent article claimed Dylann Roof has a 141 IQ. Lion was predictably skeptical, writing:
I find it highly unlikely. The article, irresponsibly, gives no source for Roof’s alleged high IQ, just some hearsay. What test did he take? When did he take it? No info is given. So it’s probably not true.
Although I too am extremely skeptical of high IQ claims, the fact that Roof’s competency to represent himself in trial was questioned makes it likely that he was in fact evaluated by a psychologist and probably took the latest Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale (WAIS-IV), just as Ted Kaczynski had taken an earlier version of the Wechsler (WAIS-R) around the time he was on trial.
I started searching the web for evidence that Roof was evaluated for competency, and found more specifics:
His overall intellectual function was a score of 125, which placed him in the 96th percentile. His verbal compression score was 141, which placed him in the top 99.7th percentile. However, his processing speed was 100, which placed him in the 50th percentile
So 141 was just his score on the verbal comprehension subtests of the WAIS-IV, but because other brain functions like processing speed were much lower (no mention of his scores on working memory and perceptual organization) his overall IQ was 125 (U.S. norms);123 (white norms) [UPDATE May 6, 2017: These scores might be 3 points too high because the WAIS-IV norms were about a decade too old when Roof was tested & thus may give slightly inflated results]
So Lion was right about the 141 IQ being bogus (it was just a sub-score) however Roof’s overall IQ is still higher then Lion’s estimate for Rodgers, who Lion considered smarter.
But why was Roof’s score reported to be 141 in the first place?
Sometimes when one has too big a discrepancy on the subsections of IQ tests, the overall score is considered unreliable so perhaps the psychologist took Roof’s verbal comprehension score of 141 as reflective of his true intelligence, and dismissed the overall score as compromised by his cognitive weaknesses. However the great David Wechsler would have had none of this. He felt that all of the subtests on his scales were needed for the fuller appraisal of intelligence, and would not tolerate such cherry-picking.
Elaborating further on Roof’s intelligence, Lion writes:
…his crime shows a sort of stupidity that belies the idea that he’s especially smart. He supposedly wanted to make some sort of dramatic response to black crime, but then why kill a bunch of old church people? He could have at least gone into the ghetto and killed some gangbangers. He has to be pretty stupid not to realize what a dumb idea it was.
While Roof’s overall IQ is much lower than 141, it’s still higher than 96% of America’s. So why didn’t he realize how dumb his crime was? The psychologist’s evaluation showed that not only does Roof have a high IQ, but was also possibly autistic. Autistics tend to lack social cognition, even when their overall IQs are high, so Roof may simply have been too politically obtuse to realize that killing people as sympathetic as churchgoers would not advance his cause.
Pumpkin Person 
Rodgers autobiog is worth reading.
still waiting pill!
Still awaiting what?
of course it is NOT.
sad!
i’m pretty sure at this point that pill is short.
bradley manning short.
no big deal.
just forget about sex.
can you do that?
try!
Maybe estimating IQs is stupid, especially when you are biased towards one you’re biased towards one more because of their actions.
“The psychologist’s evaluation showed that not only does Roof have a high IQ, but was also possibly autistic. Autistics tend to lack social cognition, even when their overall IQs are high, so Roof may simply have been too politically obtuse to realize that killing people as sympathetic as church goers would not advance his cause.”
I can only see three pages because I’m not downloading the app. Can you later where it says this? Maybe it’s easier to kill old church goers than to go into the hood and kill prime-of-life people? I don’t think he is autistic. Also…
https://www.infowars.com/false-flag-dylann-roofs-barely-used-facebook-page-likely-created-in-2015/
http://www.newnationalist.net/2016/12/15/dylann-storm-roofs-arrest-interview-is-one-big-conflicting-story/
RR, here’s another source:
Dr. James Ballenger, a local forensic psychiatrist, found that Roof showed signs of “Social Anxiety Disorder, a Mixed Substance Abuse Disorder, a Schizoid Personality Disorder, depression by history, and a possible Autistic Spectrum Disorder,” the court filing indicates.
Schizoid personality disorder is not schizophrenia and doesn’t cause delusional beliefs or hallucinations. Instead, those who suffer from it seem detached and distant, and they don’t want or enjoy close relationships with others, said Emily Gottfried, a forensic psychologist at the Medical University of South Carolina.
“They don’t show a lot of outward emotion, and when you meet them they seem pretty flat,” Gottfried said.
In contrast, those who suffer social anxiety disorder avoid relationships not out of a disinterest but rather an intense fear of being judged negatively. Autism can cause problems with social interactions as well and lead to rigid, fixed interests, she said.
These disorders fit a public portrait that has emerged of Roof, that of a loner who developed violent racist ideologies simply by reading white supremacist websites rather than through real-life interactions. Police also had found Roof in possession of Suboxone, a prescription drug used to treat opiate addiction, just a few months before the Emanuel shooting.
The newly unsealed motion also states that the defense “offered evidence of an autism diagnosis by a highly-qualified autism expert” at a closed-door hearing to determine whether Roof was competent to stand trial.
Is Roof wrong about rac-ism? Or is his psychosis a symptom of the former?
For example, many people turn psychotic due to actual or perceived pressure. Right now there are many psychotic people engaging in antifa riots and Magic Negro lives matter.
Complicated topic.
I thought verbal comprehension was a proxy for social intelligence, and that’s where he scored the highest.
As you said autistics don’t do well on this subtest, so it seems a bit contradictory with saying Dylann Roof might be autistic ?
I should have clarified: Roof did well on the Verbal Comprehension index, which is not the same as the Comprehension subtest. It’s the latter that autistics tend to struggle with. In fact it’s not even clear if Roof took the Comprehension subtest because on the WAIS-IV, this has been relegated to an optional subtest that is not even used to calculate any of the indexes or full-scale IQ unless one of the core subtests gets spoiled and the core subtests that are used to calculate the Verbal Comprehension index are Information (general knowledge), Vocabulary (word knowledge) and Similarities (verbal abstractions)
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“He supposedly wanted to make some sort of dramatic response to black crime, but then why kill a bunch of old church people ? He could have at l’East gone into the ghetto and killed some gangbangers”
I think that’s the point. I guess he was shocked by the unfairness of crimes committed by black people. (Crimes are commited against innocent people). So he did want to kill innocent black people to shock what is unfairness. Old black women that is to say a category which has few chances to be engaged in crime is for him a good target. I think he wanted to show clearly the cruelty of his crime.
This is very smart actually. Horrible but smart.
“Sometimes when one has too big a discrepancy on the subsections of IQ tests, the overall score is considered unreliable”
The difference between my verbal and processing speed is 46 points.
I read somewhere that a 20 points discrepancy is a learning disability.
Maybe my IQ is really 121 because of my SAT scores?
That would make higher than 90% of people.
I got 147 on pumpkins autism scale.
But discrepancies make things unreliable?
lion is right. idiots don’t even know what “IQ” means. they use it like it could be measured as accurately as height. this is the marketing working.
i heard the same claim for timothy mcveigh.
the only famous criminal who really did have a very high IQ is Ted Kaczynski. he went to college at 16. and not just any college. harvard.
he is the world’s most famous living Cynic.
unless the article gives the test and the date it’s just retarded gayness.
You can read the court document yourself. He was tested on the WAIS-IV in Nov 2016, I believe, by supposedly a very well respected psychiatrist (not a psychologist) with 45 years experience.
The WAIS may have a g loading as high as 0.93, which means it might correlate with g almost as well as stadiometer scores correlate with height. the main problem with post-crime testing is malingering to avoid jail, but seeing as Roof scored much higher than expected, that was likely not an issue here. It may have been an issue with Ted K who scored 130 on the WAIS-R after I corrected for old norms and converted to white norms. Some people feel he’s a lot smarter, even though 130 is extremely high.
very weird.
will do.
the only famous criminal who really did have a very high IQ is Ted Kaczynski.
How about Ted Bundy and Ed Kemper?
And race racist.
court appointed psychologists are incompetent and corrupt peepee.
you should NOT believe the 141 verbal comprehension score either.
all evaluations after the crime are 100% meaningless.
i thought maybe there was a test in roof’s past like there was for ted k.
apparently not.
the whole thing just shows that astrology is more scientific than psychology.
sad!
although given the report it does seem certain that roof is NOT stupid.
which is surprising considering how shitty his parents were. the genetic and environmental effect are against his not being stupid.
I’m not surprised he has a full-scale IQ as high as 125 since extreme prole upbringing combined with possible autism & mental illness can make one seem way dumber than they are. What surprises me is the 141 on the verbal comprehension index since that index consists of Information, Vocabulary, and Similarities. That’s an incredibly high score on verbal tests for someone who left school in the 9th grade (though later got his GED) and is a pretty mediocre writer (although somewhat insightful).
He even says why he chose Charleton and why he chose the location he did; so his choice in killing church-goers wasn’t because he was too “politically obtuse to realize that killing people as sympathetic as church goers would not advance his cause.”
Isn’t verbal IQ the most heritable portion anyways? How did he turn into a looney racist killer?
He does have a high verbal because he got the right answer to the illusion. [sentence redacted by PP, May 7, 2017]
In my opinion, you need a superior IQ to see the Danish. I have never met anyone who was educated and had a professional background that crucially also seen the Danish after coming through the propaganda mill.
In fact, I’d say not going college helped Dylan see reality more instinctively.
What one looks for in verbal intelligence is not vocabulary but propositional logic. And he has it from what I can see, even if its very undeveloped in terms of reading and appropriate finesse around expression.
RaceRealist, why he chosed this location ?
Isn’t verbal IQ the most heritable portion anyways?
I don’t know. In the Minnesota study of MZ twins reared, performance IQ was more heritable than verbal (0.71 vs 0.64). See table 4
Click to access Bouchard.pdf
Of course the new version of the WAIS that Roof took no longer has verbal and performance IQ. Verbal subtests are now divided into verbal comprehension and working memory scales. Performance subtests are now divided into perceptual organization and processing speed scales.
RR he gave no coherent reason for targeting the victims that he chose
“RR he gave no coherent reason for targeting the victims that he chose”
I have no choice. I am in no position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is the most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it into the real world, and I guess that has to be me.
How is that coherent reasoning RR?
“I am in no position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight.” is pretty coherent. Coherent being defined as ‘logical and consistent’.
Roof told FBI agents when they arrested him after the June 17, 2015, slayings that he wanted the shootings to bring back segregation or perhaps start a race war.
From Chicago Tribune.
If his reasoning was that his shooting would cause a race war, then his actions were logical and consistent, i.e., coherent.
The victims he chose were so innocent that instead of inspiring other whites to join his cause, he just made the cause look more evil. Why do you think so many people think it was a false flag? Cause they can’t believe a genuinely politically motivated crime could be so politically obtuse.
Oswald thought killing Kennedy would help America embrace true communism.
The brainwashed can have high or low IQ.
Inconsistency is insane and incoherency is indoctrinated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald#Childhood
In 1944, Marguerite moved the family from New Orleans to Dallas, Texas. Oswald entered the 1st grade in 1945 and over the next half-dozen years attended several different schools in the Dallas and Fort Worth areas through the 6th grade. Oswald took an IQ test in the 4th grade and scored 103; “on achievement tests in [grades 4 to 6], he twice did best in reading and twice did worst in spelling.”[8]
What about the heritability of the VCI and PRI? Aren’t those a) both more g-loaded and b) more heritable than working memory and processing speed? IIRC, the WAIS allows for the computation of an index known as the GAI, which is more g-loaded than FSIQ. If so, Roof’s GAI might be even higher than his FSIQ which would weaken Lion’s case further.
What about the heritability of the VCI and PRI? Aren’t those a) both more g-loaded and b) more heritable than working memory and processing speed?
Probably
IIRC, the WAIS allows for the computation of an index known as the GAI, which is more g-loaded than FSIQ.
IIRC the General Ability Index is like the full-scale IQ except it excludes the working memory and processing speed subtests. Even though working memory and processing speed are probably less g loaded than the other indexes, I doubt excluding them makes the composite more g loaded because g is what’s common to all cognition, so the more different kinds of brain power you measure, the more g loaded the composite tends to be, ceteris paribus.
If so, Roof’s GAI might be even higher than his FSIQ which would weaken Lion’s case further.
His GAI probably is higher than his FSIQ, because from what I’ve read, he did worst on the 2 indexes not included in the GAI. But in my opinion, FSIQ is a better measure of intelligence and perhaps also a better measure of g.
“The victims he chose were so innocent that instead of inspiring other whites to join his cause, he just made the cause look more evil.”
Again, if his intention was to begin a race war, then his actions were coherent. He stated why he didn’t go into the ghetto. Am I the only one who reads links around here?
“Why do you think so many people think it was a false flag? Cause they can’t believe a genuinely politically motivated crime could be so politically obtuse.”
https://www.infowars.com/false-flag-dylann-roofs-barely-used-facebook-page-likely-created-in-2015/
http://www.newnationalist.net/2016/12/15/dylann-storm-roofs-arrest-interview-is-one-big-conflicting-story/
Again, if his intention was to begin a race war, then his actions were coherent. He stated why he didn’t go into the ghetto.
He was politically stupid to think shooting innocent people in a church would start a race war.
So you don’t see how a guy who waved around a confederate flag who walked into a church and killing innocent people could start a race war?
….I’ll be nice.
Killing innocent black church ladies is a pretty dumb way for a white nationalist to try to start a race war RR. Politically it’s a gift to the left because it reinforces the liberal narrative of evil whites victimizing innocent blacks. Think about it RR.
“Killing innocent black church ladies is a pretty dumb way for a white nationalist to try to start a race war RR. Politically it’s a gift to the left because it reinforces the liberal narrative of evil whites victimizing innocent blacks. Think about it RR.”
He laid out his other option “go to the ghetto” and explained why he didn’t go (he was alone “in no position … to go into the ghetto and fight”). He explained why he chose Charleston; because it had the highest ratio of blacks to whites one time in the country’s history.
Watch his confession.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dylann-roof-confession-tape-i-went-to-that-church-and-i-did-it-829729347998
He says that one reason he did it was because “someone had to do something” and he brings up blacks “raping 100 white women a day” which was an “FBI stat from 10 years ago”.
People misunderstand the data and assume ‘sex assault’=rape. All rape is sexual assault but not all sexual assault is rape. So a meme went around saying that black women rape 100 white women a day in images such as this:
It’s, in truth, a horrendous misuse/misinterpretation of the statistics:
http://www.businessinsider.com/stupid-racist-meme-rape-black-men-2016-10
Looking at FBI table 43, we see that blacks rape 4900 women per year:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-43
So we have three lines of evidence for his motivations: his writing, his confession to the agents, and his testimony in court. Which one holds more weight?
I also couldn’t help that when listening to him talk, he sounds like he’s….kinda slow. Maybe on a SSRI drug? A lot of mass shooters are found to be on some sort of SSRI medication. Could it be linked here?
He wasn’t on a SSRI, but he did take Suboxone before the shooting:
http://www.naturalnews.com/050117_Charleston_shooting_Big_Pharma_psych_drugs.html
I’ve worked with people who’ve taken drugs like this in the past and, even when they’re not high on it, they still sound “slow”.
I have no idea why Lion is so bullish on Rodger’s IQ. His entire “manifesto” seemed bizarre and full of inconsistencies and half-formed thoughts. His entire justification for the massacre and quasi-ideology was nonsensical– seemed slightly above average at best. As evil as Roof was he had an endgoal, as fantastic as it may have been.
Rodger was not high IQ. He was terrible in school. I’d say about 110-115. He is also clearly psychotic.
I have no idea why Lion is so bullish on Rodger’s IQ.
He didn’t think Rodgers was especially smart, just a lot smarter than Roof. He pegged Rodgers at 115-120.
Lion thinks writing skills are a major sign of intelligence so he was impressed that Rodgers wrote a long biography.
He also seems to give social class a lot of weight, so that may have caused him to underestimate Roof.
I think the available evidence suggests that Roof had a higher level of intelligence or “g” than did Rodger. And the length of his biography is pretty meaningless. There was no core thesis, it was poorly organized. 115-120 is wildly high– 110-115 seems more likely. I would say Roof likely had a much higher genetic ceiling too– Rodger came from an incredibly privileged background, while Roof, not so much. Roof was likely mentally ill and undersocialized, living in a terrible environment. Rodger hadn’t completed so much as a semester of college by age 23.
I think the available evidence suggests that Roof had a higher level of intelligence or “g” than did Rodger.
I agree.
Lion is just letting his own biases get in the way of a conclusion that is frankly as clear as day. Social class and IQ are linked, but not as closely as he wants to think. Rodger’s father was a failed filmmaker, and his mother was some sort of trophy wife. That’s not an “elite” background, even if Rodger tried to portray himself as a “descendant of British aristocrats” (which he wasn’t). Not too get too psychoanalytic, but Lion’s entire blog reeks of class insecurity. Throwing out the data to fit his cognitive biases is 1) lazy and 2) horrible science.
I’ve said it before, but I’d peg Rodger at 110-115– a little less than a standard deviation above average, so enough to be frustrated with his underachievement, but not enough to brainstorm ways to get out of his situation– attending a state school in a low COL part of the country, using his (fairly well) developed writing skills to earn some academic credentials/credibility, etc. I came from a lower-middle class immigrant family, and I was able to work my way up by applying to a reputable state school, majoring in a fairly lucrative field, and earning a professional degree from a decent state school en route.
that’s an interesting phenomenon.
red heads.
it’s color-ism for sure. gingers have no soul.
so the blacks that claim it’s just skin color can sftu.
prince harry is the only hot ginger…according to milo.
tabitha soren was hot when she was on mtv. not anymore.
it’s funny. the best looking dog is a ginger. but not the best looking human.
I like strawberry blond 🙂
I heart ginger women long time.
and jimmy. i did mention that it was odd that gentiles named dimon and diamond should make it to ceo of great banks. i suggested this was because there is a taboo on inquiring about ethnicity in the US. that is, it may be they were favored because some believed erroneously that they were jewish. my own limited experience is that i am more aware of who’s jewish than most jews are. weird but true.
jews are at most 2.5% of the US population hymie, maybe 5% if half and quarter jews are included. so just as with homosexuals…if there’s a question as to identity…they’re probably gentiles…they’re probably straight.
which isn’t to say it’s hard to tell. almost always it’s easy to tell…for me. dimon and diamond might be jews, might not. it’s hard to tell. that’s a red flag that they probably aren’t jews.
the jewish facial skeleton is distinct, or he shares it only with some sicilians. short/weak chin, long upper lip, thick lips, long nose.
the romans were known for their long and aquiline noses.
so i think jimmy is right.
if the ashkenazis really are smarter than other jews for genetic reasons, they get this from their italian ancestry.
what it’s like in canada, idk, but italian americans are still very clannish and differ behaviorally from other white gentiles. they’re very outgoing, talkative, in your face, etc.
but…when i was 24 i would have known macaroni was fubar.
he married his mother.
yeah. older women can be attractive. but…
she…must have something wrong with her.
marriage?
she can’t have kids.
when young women marry old men it’s gross…but at least the old men can still have children.
afro just plays at being a roman catholic. sad!
The Church, nevertheless, in urging men to the observance of the precepts of the natural law, which it interprets by its constant doctrine, teaches that each and every marital act must of necessity retain its intrinsic relationship to the procreation of human life.
It is as if from some mysterious crack, no, it is not mysterious, from some crack the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God.
afro also plays at being a roman. as opposed to a gaul.
the romans were great engineers. the best.
they roman empire is the longest lasting empire…by far.
the romans were NOT great at pure thought. the greeks and the germans were their superiors.
the romans were practical.
they were motherfuckers.
the roman spirit has not been repeated. not in contemporary italy. the germans have come the closest.
amazing…that a jew puppet like charlie rose can repeat it…only half joking…
the leader of the free world is…angel merkel.
le pen’s genius isn’t perceived by afro.
it’s blindingly obvious outside frog-land.
sad!
Criticizing Macron’s personal life is all you can do because you don’t have serious arguments against him. By the way, Le Pen is divorced, not very Catholic for someone who pretends to defend France’s Christian roots.
I’ve had an affair with an older lady, I don’t think Macron had the same state of mind as me when his relationship started. She was his literature teacher, he probably has admiration for her. My relationship started as an ego boosting challenge, to prove myself and my pals I could handle an older married lady. It didn’t exactly turned out as I wanted but the sexual side of the experience is something I don’t regret.
And your “only Germans can think”, “the French are this, the French are that”, “Afro this, Afro that” is getting old and ridiculous. You are clearly not in a position to deal with the topics you mention.
You are clearly not in a position to deal with the topics you mention.
i agree. you aren’t.
sad!
And lol at Le Pen’s genius
Now people are not only wondering if she’s genuinely dumb, they also ask what substance she takes.
you don’t get it afro.
if she were “genuinely dumb” it wouldn’t matter.
i mean maybe she is fucktarded…
it’s irrelevant.
the one un-attractive feature i’ve noticed is she has short teeth, baby teeth.
it doesn’t matter.
france fucks up again!
the mountain is coming afro.
it will erupt in the ile-de-france.
sad!
Shut the fuck up, only 10% of Parisian voters did vote for Le Pen. She makes ridiculous scores in Ile-de-France. The very reason why a fascist uprising will never happen is that she’s strong in marginal areas where she gained popularity with a more socialist than nationalistic rhetoric. The largest town where Le Pen beat macron is probably not more populous than 50k inhabitants.
In the ten largest cities, she made this scores:
The game is over for Le Pen, Mélenchon is going to be the new anti-establishment candidate.
proved it…when my own mother said milo was gorgeous…a gorgeous fag…
1. yes! afro is right. the orthognathism of white men makes them look like pussies. this was in a louis theroux documentary.
2. but how many women have i heard describe men as “beautiful”…and they meant…i’m on that!
so yeah. dark skin and monkey features are more manly…but women don’t always want more manly…sometimes they want pretty…pretty boys…if only tom cruise were 6’3” he’d have all the bitches.
alain delon is the paradigm.
What monkey features are you talking about? Contrary to whites and monkeys, us blacks have lips and we’re hairless, and most monkeys are pale skinned under their fur.
And contrary to you I know what women find attractive in black guys because I had a appreciable number of white chicks as playmates. In short, it’s a mix of manly and youthful features that turn them on. Dark skin, nice size, muscular built, strong jaw, masculine demeanor and coolness that come with a baby nose, full pink lips and smooth body are common characteristics that women can like in a black dude and that whites lack.
Another factor is that being black helps being socially dominant, we never blush, look more confident, we don’t get pale if we’re sick so we can easily look on top. And women like dominant men, I can hardly imagine a black dude being a gamma male in his social circle whereas the cute whiteys you posted fit the role perfectly.
I never said white chicks were unanimously crazy over black dudes, but the attraction or curiousness is strong in spite of all the racism and radically different phenotype.
you’re black yet you have pink lips?
do you wear lipstick afro?
what is a “baby nose”?
i do have my own beauty tip. hardly any one follows it. some don’t need to. the tip is…keep your nose clean…so to say…the pores of the nose get clogged with grease…this is hard work…you have to squeeze your nose…if you do it right you will bleed a little. no amount of washing does it.
Yes lips tissues are pink, but as a white guy you don’t know what lips are. A baby nose is a cute flat round nose like mine. Some whites get surgery to flatten the horrible peninsula they call their nose.
And thanks for the nose tip but each square inch of my skin is flawless. Don’t need advice from an old creepy Californian alcoholic.
as a human being i know what lips are.
dog lips are better.
sad!
funny!
afro thinks he lives in a ralph lifshitz commercial yet he never talks about his dog or dogs.
sad!
telling!
whale penis leather was a thing among the rich and taste-less recently…the world’s softest leather supposedly…i used to joke that russian billionaires coveted my irish setter’s lips…really the world’s softest leather.
it doesn’t matter…no amount of moisturizer can compensate…the world’s most beautiful creature is the irish setter…not french! sad!
but an irishman!
who can kill squirrels!
so…yeah…objectively speaking…thomas aquinas is the highest IQ person ever…but his thought was framed aforehand…
smartest original schoolman was a mick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Scotus_Eriugena
I love her.
She is 18 years old.
so the only pop songs about male sex symbols have been about “pretty” male sex symbols.
delon and dean.
i always wondered…why would she be into me?…i can’t stop thinking about her…why would she ever have the same affliction?
to be a true hetero…you learn to appreciate…
the other side.
you see afro…most white women, in america at least, think this guy is one of sexiest men ever…
even though he was “pretty”.
the point being that what makes a woman or a man maximally attractive (physically) is NOT maximal femininity or maximal masculinity.
a woman who has all feminine traits exaggerated in UN-attractive.
a man who has all masculine traits exaggerated is UN-attractive.
beauty is balanced on a razor’s edge.
The Razor’s Edge
who’s delon for?
le pen!
still pretty good lookin’…age 80.
Marine Le Pen n’est pas une menace, c’est une connerie…
france’s sexiest man said.
http://www.europe1.fr/culture/gerard-depardieu-marine-le-pen-nest-pas-une-menace-cest-une-connerie-2898713
afro shaves all his body hair and slathers himself in moisturizer…
sad!
afro dear…
attraction is concrete…
being a man is more than lotion…
women want men…
not lotion…
I don’t shave, I’m naturally hairless, that’s common in blacks and so is moisturizing.
Find a woman instead of trying to give me advice. Everything has been perfect for me when it comes to love and sex, and I can clearly see why the same can’t be said of you.
i’ve already found a woman ^^^.
just broadening my horizons jimmy. just being honest.
my aesthetic is as conservative as it gets. and un-considered.
not a joke. not a pretense.
most beautiful woman…easy…
bergman in casablanca.
she was still beautiful in her 60s, but in her late 20s…
who’s her equal?
and it wasn’t just…body, flesh, bones, etc.
there was light behind those eyes! there was a person!
she’s IT.
she’s mt everest!
your right, you are so right.
in afro’s terms…
ingrid was THICK!
what he means by that idk exactly.
she was a big girl.
not fat. big.
that’s what men really want.
real men.
a girl who looks like a 12 year old boy…ne asian…
vs
a girl who can squat 2/3ds what you can?
squat girl wins!
iranian reason?
sad!
seriously…
whatever the “iran deal”…
iran is gonna get nukes.
iran = persia…
motherfuckers!
they’re still mad that they lost to the greeks…
2,000 years ago!
this should be a course at UCB…
ENG 451 The Comments of Jorge Videla/Mugabe/etc.
I do think you need to be a bit schizo to make novel conclusions. For example I’ll think about McDonalds than I might think about that movie with Michael Keaton in it playing Ray Kroc, who was slavic in heritage and compare him to lets say, Andy Grove who was also slavic and had a similar temperament. And from that draw some conclusions.
Kroc could have picked any diner, but he loved the efficient system the McDonalds bros created, who themselves did not want to expand with it. As we know, Grove didn’t invent the Intel Pentium IV processor, but I imagine he was the brains behind the process.
A process is an invention. Ask Henry Ford. Arguably techniques like animal husbandry, crop rotation or using paper for exchange of value is more significant than satellite tv.
From this we can conclude that when focusing on ‘innovation’, we may need to focus on processes than atoms or bits.
but I imagine he was the brains behind the process…
grove was jewish and not a technical person at all. the technical person was gordon moore, phd in chemistry, worked in shockley’s group.
You could spend hours reading about history in age of empires. Didnt know that Ethiopia turned out to be the mythical home of the Christian king ‘Prester John’ rumoured to live beyond Arab lands.
My hunch is that there was indeed a Prester John type missionary who travelled there and converted the Ethiopians to Christianity as there are no other Christian influences near that region outside of the Coptics in Eygpt I understand.
A bit like Saint Patrick in Ireland.
The North Africans are definitely not the same race as the North Africans. If you read the history there, the Ummyad Berber dominant Caliphate fell to the Ottomans and waves of arab invasions.
Crazily enough, once the Portugeese found Ethiopia, the Portugeese and Pope helped Ethiopia remain free from the Arabs. They retained this independence up until Mussolini decided to invade in the 20th century i.e. over 800 years.
The other interesting thing about Ethiopia is its large Jewish population. I don’t know how that happened. Very interesting country indeed.
#same race as the arabs
a famous french poet died there. he worked as a trader of some kind. afro should know which one. and pushkin was descended from an ethiopian. a famous american doctor and author is from east indians who settled in ethiopia. forget his name. bob marley worshipped it’s former dictator. there were jews in yemen too and ethiopia isn’t far from yemen. my 1960 encyclopedia categorizes them as caucasian. of course also categorized polynesians as caucasian. this was before molecular genetics.
Haven’t played Age of Empires since middle school. Need to find a cheap version that works on Windows 10.
“I do think you need to be a bit schizo to make novel conclusions.”
My ability for abstraction is divergent but I now better understand how you think.
INTJ
Ni (convergence)
Te (inductive)
Fi (personal)
Se (photo-realism)
The Le Pen bubble pathetically burst tonight. Good job France!
Macron is expected to get between 65.5% and 66.1% of votes. This is a frank victory.
Nice!
LMAO.
please tell me the above is a joke.
if only the petainists had such propaganda…
this is the thing…
given jerry lewis…
i don’t think it’s autism…
i can’t tell when the french are joking.
sad!
ROFL! The internet will go crazy.
france is in for a rude awakening.
according to varoufakis the french elite are only pro europe because they think they can pull a fast one on the germans. they think they can take over brussels.
the french are fucking delusional as usual.
I just seen in the news that Merkel says she wants to make things easy for Macron or the anti-EU will grow stronger in the near future. And since we’re gonna be Europe’s number one economy in a few decades years, it’s about time for Germany to get ready for the changes to come.
I’ll be glad if Germany plays fair but I’d prefer that France solidifies the Southern bloc with Spain and Italy so that we could really get rid of the Prussian mindset in EU institution.
Why is this comment in the dungeon?
Why is this comment in the dungeon?
I accidentally left 2 comments in moderation. Yours and one by Iranianofreason. Both have now been published.
I’m laughing when I think about the far right retards who were fantasizing about France electing Le Pen and joining the dumb blondes club along with Putin’s Russia and Trump’s America.
But we’re smart, and we chose the Golden Boy’s club like our Canadian and Italians bros did with Trudeau and Renzi. Now I guess the populist wave is over and the stupid Anglos are gonna sink alone.
i’m making bank with CABK and ISP.
wish i weren’t.
as i’ve said…
italy is next!
what’s that called?
“italexit”?
the euro project can work…if…there are large transfer payments between the rich and the poor euro states…
that is to say…
the euro is retarded and will break up.
but french people are retarded, so they don’t see it.
sad!
pro-europe french = collaborators.
what’s the first thing every french soldier learns?
how to say “i surrender” in german.
another great pretty boy that white women love is gregory peck. but peck was 6’3″ and had a very manly voice. the voice is by far the most under-rated physical feature.
the phrase “petty boy” used disparagingly by women really just means short or effeminate or stupid. it also applies to any supposed sex symbol with curly hair. curly hair is worse than red hair.
Its so obvious its a jim jones cult. Nothing the cult rests on is reality or logically follows from the predicates.
Open borders is not rational, even if you were autistic and thought race was the colour of someone’s socks or ‘bad luck to be born in Somalia’ transubstantiation argument. Same with the wars for Greater Israel for ‘democracy’ and to stop ‘genocide’.
You genuinely have to have a sub 110 IQ to be in thrall to Russia hacking the election narrative. That one is even getting guys like Jimmy Dore and the young turks pissed off.
Its getting clearer and clearer for the 120IQ above set.
Dylan Roof passes the most important IQ test because he saw through an Illusion by the media, academia, Hollywood and music videos. He saw in his own way a impending darkness.
One last war to decide the fate of the human race. Good against evil. It’s going to happen in our lifetime gentlemen. Will the former strongest race of man go down to the high IQ berbers? Let’s see.
Yes morality exists. Objectively. Its in the aesthetic. Look at the destruction of the sickness.
lion is right again.
the soviet union succeeded economically given its ethnic composition. boy did it!
but there was one yuge problem with the soviet system…
its wage structure was way too flat.
so novices were making half what masters made.
some inequality is GOOD.
really GOOD.
but there’s a point where it becomes BAD. really BAD.
and for the hard-core stalinists i say…
human nature is NOT what you think it is or wish it were.
IT IS WHAT WHAT IT IS.
think about it afro.
it’s not what you want to think…
but it’s the truth.
the greeks are followed in thought by kant, hegel, marx/engels, nietzsche, and heidegger.
descartes and sartre are just commentators. standers-by.
sad!
newton was NOT french…and he had red hair to boot.
post the short corsican…
the french follow.
they never lead.
sad!
our germans are better than their germans!
http://nautil.us/issue/23/dominoes/how-the-computer-got-its-revenge-on-the-soviet-union
You spit too much junk on this blog.
fucking french people…
God!
sad!
34% of french citizens voted for a candidate that they thought was an anti-jew Nazi
one third !
amazing
I think a race war in France is inevitable
Lol, more delusions from dummy Jimmy.
First of all, 22% of the French who are eligible to vote did vote for Le Pen. That’s less than abstention and invalid votes.
Secondly, and to Jimmy’s disbelief, 75% of FN voters believe the Jews are French like the others.
Thirdly, Le Pen’s voters are mostly poor, illiterate rural white trash from the north east and French-Algerians from the South-East. Le Pen’s score is ridiculously low among the urban middle class which is France’s dominant demographic.
In big cities, Le Pen usually got les than 15% of eligible adults to vote for her.
The map speaks for itself:
There’s gonna be a war, for sure… Within the Front National. Seeing the mood of far-righters on the internet I can tell for sure that Marine Le Pen will have a hard time saving her party from implosion. They say she’s been too politically correct, that her performance at the debate was a complete disaster (the polls said she was supposed to get 41% of votes before he debate, she collapsed to 34%, that’s -20%). She looked really sad and tired these last few days and something tells me she’s gonna have a nervous breakdown because she has become France’s laughing stock with her antics.
As a beautiful coincidence, today is a holiday to celebrate victory over Nazism and collaboration, the sky is cloudless and the streets are filled with smiling people. We’re not only miles away from war, we’re having a couple days of complete serenity that we badly needed.
The first sociological studies about the election just came out and one thing is clear: the media invents non-existent divisions.
They spent weeks talking about Macron’s France of winners and Le Pen’s France of losers when in actuality, every single social category voted for Macron although it is clear that the most successful segments commonly voted for Macron (usually +80%), the fascist tide is far from having taken over the disadvantaged population.
So everything’s alright.
Mr. Roof’s IQ is probably in the high teens of the 100th mark, no less and no more.
the french are so fucking delusional…
music?
handel, bach, mozart, beethoven, wagner…
get real!
the french…
SUCK!
SUCK!
SUCK!
sad!
SAD!
when the french think, they think in german.
it’s so funny that afro doesn’t get it.
1914 — germany tries to rule the world…fails!
1939 — germany tries to rule the world…fails!
1999 — germany tries to rule the world…SUCCEEDS!
Its kind of comical.
Much like derivatives ‘lowering risk’ by spreading it to powder kegs across the world.
Stopping Frexit, doesn’t mean stopping Italexit, Netherexit, Spexit, Portugexit in perpetuity.
All it takes is one of the powder kegs to go off. And its ineivtable.
So Spain leaving would mean everyone else leaving de fact.
And the necromancer will keep forcing everyone to keep their straitjackets on with wilder and wilder policy all the while needling the people with open borders and neverending war on Slavs/Arabs.
Its not sustainable at the meta. And thats why I think Jimmy may be wrong that they are cold blooded about all this.
Lol, it’s not happening anytime soon. The EU isn’t as unpopular than what the Anglo media pretends. The idiocratic wave is is an Anglo thing, us continentals are much smarter.
Le Pen lost a lot of votes with her anti-European and anti-Euro discourse, it was in disconnection with people’s priorities.
Look at the polling. Its majority unpopular in greece, france, italy and bizarrely finland. The former is because of letting people like you in.
NO OFFENCIA POR FAVOR
☻ – what afro thinks a french person looks like in his cog diss unreality.
Ps i like mctaggarts phrase ‘unreality’. As opposed to illusion.
An illusion can be an exaggeration of reality so its not an antonym for reality.
I suppose wittgenstein would say im not allowed accept ‘unreality’ because ita not approved by the commissar on words and hasnt beeb proven in its efficiency of meaning transfer.
What a fuckin joke that guy. Russell should be embarrassed he let 20th century philosophy turn into scrabble dictionary studies and legal studies.
Mctaggarys essay on the unreality of time is a classic.
Please no cute usernames. You’re “The Philosopher”
Nope, the only countries where more people think they would fare better outside the EU are Cyprus, Slovenia and the UK. No country in the Eurozone has the a majority or a plurality of anti-Euro respondents.
In France, Macron’s voters voted 1- for the EU, 2- against unemployment 3- for education. Le Pen’s retards voted 1- against immigration, 2- against terrorism 3- against crime.
As a whole, the French voted 1- for the EU, 2- against unemployment, 3- against immigration.
Euroscepticism isn’t even among Le Pen’s voters top priorities, whereas the mainstream is pro-EU. Talking about the Union and the Euro just made Le Pen’s incompetence show.
Oops, the Euroscepticism is a small plurality in Italy too. Well, the Italians wouldn’t be difficulty to convince to stay. They emigrate in large numbers in Europe to work, they’d end up like Argentina if they had to pay their Euro-denominated debt in Lira, they couldn’t anymore send the migrants in other European countries. And they couldn’t afford the Italexit bill. This is a perfectly ridiculous idea.
Merkel doesn’t control anything. No permutation of human history has allowed a woman to control that much without inheriting it as a queen.
Not because men and high IQ psychopaths are against the idea of a woman being in control per se. But because the cognitive, emotional and testosterone attributes needed are not there. Even for lesbians like hilary.
QED.
This is something the shakes the foundations of jewish 3rd wave feminism. The reason men are on top, is not because men believe men should be on top per se. But because nature endows men and women differently and those endowments lead to power and submission respectively.
Denmark knows this. Seinhem knows this everytime she went on her knees for magic negro athlete.
They know it. But THEY LIE> THEY ALWAYS LIE. THEY ARE REFLEXIVE LIARS. THEY WERE THE QUACKS, FRAUD SALESMEN, FRAUD PREACHERS, CULT LEADERS E. JESUS. THEY HAVE DONE THIS FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
Why do magic negroes and foreignors get votes afro? Answer.
prof shoe’s latest post proves he does NOT understand norms of reaction. just as i said.
Note the data here have only been analyzed using summary statistics coming from each sub-cohort.
which requires the FALSE assumption that hits for one cohort are hits in the absolute sense.
legit hits would be for a geographically diverse cohort. combining local cohorts is meaningless.
which requires the FALSE assumption that hits for one cohort are hits in the absolute sense.
legit hits would be for a geographically diverse cohort. combining local cohorts is meaningless.
If you get 2 hits in cohort A, and 3 hits in cohort B, then assuming you have 5 fits overall would indeed require one to assume these were absolute hits, instead of just dependent on each cohort’s specific time and place. If that’s what he’s assuming he’s wrong, but I haven’t read his blog post.
red hair is a celtic trait apparently.
afro’s fantasy men:
How come pumpkin isnt apologising for insulting psychotic community? I dot get it.
I have a weird situation where im more intelligent than most psychiatrists in some respects. So if a psychiatrist says im ‘mildly psychotic’ i have a hard decision to make – are they saying that because my ideas sound crazy and theyre too housetrained and or im simply shooting from the hip within a normal boundary of himan instinct
Or am im off the reservation and cant notice it.
Decisions. Decisions.
Thats the oddest thing. Knowing your right aboit most things but being cursed with paranoid type.
Decisions. Decisions.
Theres definitely a screw loose. But in my reaction, not the reality maybe.
As i said. In one eye i see clear as a hawk. And the other is definite distortion or fish eye lens.
Sailer is on fire. He seems to be becoming mainstream. A kind of secret reference for anyone with a functioning brain to read secretly.
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Some of your comments are a bit too edgy. Also to avoid moderation, please return to your original username. It’s a lot of work having to redact your inappropriate username.