
The large brain size of Italian American James Gandolfini may have partly caused his great acting talent. (PHOTO: shutterstock.com)
In his 2006 book Race Differences in Intelligence, Richard Lynn listed the brain sizes of many different populations (originally published by Smith and Beals, 1990) and to my surprise, the brains of Italians clocked in at 1411 cm3, higher than any other European group in the dataset. 1411 cm3 might not sound that extraordinary, but keep in mind that these figures are probably based on very old skulls because (1) you have to be dead before someone can fill your cranium with lead shot or beads and thus directly measure its volume, and (2) craniometry has been taboo since WWII.
Because Westerners before WWII were 1.3 standard deviations stunted in height (sub-optimum nutrition and disease associated with the rise of agriculture), and probably also in brain size, I would estimate that the cranial capacity in today’s Italy is an incredible 1529 cm3.
Of course it’s possible that some other European countries have caught up with or surpassed current Italian brain size (especially the well nourished and healthy Dutch, who have enjoyed an incredible 20th century growth spurt), but I suspect Italians are still the biggest brained for their body size (most encephalized).
Well, I didn’t think much of it. Data on subpopulations is often unreliable because of smaller sample sizes and looking for HBD trends within a continent as homogenous as Europe seemed to be cutting the data too thin. But then I looked at Lynn’s listing of national IQs. These figures are notoriously unreliable, often based on small unrepresentative samples, and even Lynn admits they’re extremely rough, but uses them only to look for larger continent level trends.
Nonetheless, on a scale where whites in America, Britain and Australia average 100, Italy clocked in at 102, making them the “smartest” country in Europe, or anywhere else outside of East Asia.
Both the biggest brains in Europe and the highest IQ in Europe? That’s probably not sampling error I thought, and the strong match between brain size and IQ is great news for HBD, as is the fact that both are paralleled by the incredible accomplishments of ancient Rome.
But the big brains and high IQ of Italians is also bad news for HBD because for a long time, HBDers falsely believed Italians to be genetically inferior (a stereotype the pretend to be liberal media continues to push with shows like Jersey Shore).
When they first arrived in large numbers in the United States, the tall, thin, pale WASP elite felt the newcomers looked primitive. They were disgusted by their darker more hirsute complexions, and were appalled by their shorter and more muscular physiques. Making matters worse, the for the first 50 years of the 20th century, Italian Americans confirmed these stereotypes by scoring further below the WASP mean on IQ tests than today’s Jewish Americans score above it. From Stephen J Cici’s book called On Intelligence…More or Less

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Jayman would disagree
Jayman is wrong. Italianthro destroyed him. Check italianthros website for a comment that Jayman removed.
“Italianthros” ? Sounds like someone whose feeling have been hurt, but I stay open-minded 🙂
Do you have a link ?
“sounds like someone who may have been butt hurt”
Talk about bias….
http://racialreality.blogspot.com/2013/11/calling-out-jayman.html?m=1
I found this very amusing.
Damn. No offence Jay, but Italianthro completely tore your arguments to shreds. What’s funny is that I only stumbled onto your blog now, and found it somewhat amusing. But it’s the classic case where someone completely deconstructs someone elses arguments so thoroughly it’s hard to take anything else said arguer writes seriously. Better luck next time but I appreciate your honesty blogger.
Here, compare these two links. Notice anything?
http://web.archive.org/web/20130421233617/http://jaymans.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/those-italians/
He removed his comment. Hmmm…
Control f “9:57”. There are two hits for that in the archive link but only one in the original jayman link. Hmmm..
I don’t see where Italianthro destroyed him.
He removed his comment. Hmmm…
Control f “9:57”. There are two hits for that in the archive link but only one in the original jayman link. Hmmm..
You must be really obsessed to notice that sort of thing…
You don’t see where he destroyed him because you didn’t compare the links.
“really obsessed”
Why yes. I am obsessed. Obsessed with the truth.
And I didn’t notice it. I actually read the article by Italianthro in which he points it out…
Jayman is horribly wrong on Italian IQ as his his God Lynn.
May be the exemple of the Costa Concardia was a bad one, but actually, Italianthro didn’t proved anything concerning the supposedly non-existent IQ gap between Northern & Southern Italians.
“but actually, Italianthro didn’t proved anything concerning the supposedly non-existent IQ gap between Northern & Southern Italians.”
Why do you think JayMan deleted his comment? Hm
He almost said the same thing as you which doesn’t prove that there is absolutely no genetic IQ gap between N.Italians & S.Italians.
I don’t think you understand….
The point of the debate is to see why Southern Italy has poorer economic development than the North. A gap of 2 to 3 points (if it exists which I strongly doubt) will not explain the disparities. I don’t think you understand that.
I don’t think you understand….
The point of the debate is to see why Southern Italy has poorer economic development than the North. A gap of 2 to 3 points (if it exists which I strongly doubt) will not explain the disparities. I don’t think you understand that.
Sure, IQ doesn’t explain everything. There are other factor like clannishness & everything related to non-biological factors like culture, history, geography etc…
You’re really talking about culture, history and geography?
Please stop talking.
Lynn’s study uses regional differences in the performance of Italian secondary schoolchildren on Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development tests of educational achievement assess regional IQ differences. However, data on Italian regional differences in educational achievement obtained in a much larger INVALSI study of 2,089,829 Italian schoolchildren provide unequivocal evidence that Lynn’s educational achievement measure is not a valid index of IQdifferences. More generally, the lengthy literature review in Lynn’s article reveals uncritical acceptance of reported correlations between any putative index of IQ and socio-economic variables. Any measure of cognitive performance that is correlated with IQ is considered a measure of IQ, even if there is an only a weak correlation. (lol) All correlations between such measures and socio-economic or public health variables are viewed as evidence of direct causal relationships. In all cases, causality is assumed to be in the direction that supports Lynn’s doctrine when it would be equally valid to argue that socio-economic and public health differences cause differences in the performance of IQ tests. In addition to these fundamental logical and statistical errors the present report records numerous other data processing, methodological, and conceptual errors.
Muh Richard Lynn.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236970447_The_case_against_Lynn%27s_doctrine_that_population_IQ_determines_levels_of_socio-economic_development_and_public_health_status
Muh Richard Lynn.
You’re really talking about culture, history and geography?
Please stop talking.
Don’t be that arrogant, I was simply pointing out the obvious fact that IQ & personality traits alone doesn’t explain everything.
“I was simply pointing out the obvious fact that IQ & personality traits alone doesn’t explain everything.”
Right. Culture, SES, and environment all play a part as well. Did you read the paper I linked, or at least look at the table?
Did you read the paper I linked, or at least look at the table?
I thought PISA was trash 🙂
you’re using the common email, that’s why you keep getting flagged by moderation
My mistake. You fixed the email name, but the gravatar name is still too common.
Did you read the paper I linked, or at least look at the table?
I thought PISA was trash 🙂
My mistake. You fixed the email name, but the gravatar name is still too common.
Are you sure to understand how your blog’s moderation work ? May be should ask other bloggers for help.
Yes I’m sure, it sounds wierd because I’m trying not to be too specific since you might consider the names you use for this purpose private
It is trash because of how it’s effected by the environment, school quality, culture etc. I’ve linked you tons of papers and I can tell you didn’t read them because you’re asking questions that you’d know the answer to if you’d only have read what I have provided. School quality is a huge cause of suffering test scores. It’s highly predicated on environment and SES. Read the papers and you’d see that.
It is trash because of how it’s effected by the environment, school quality, culture etc. I’ve linked you tons of papers and I can tell you didn’t read them because you’re asking questions that you’d know the answer to if you’d only have read what I have provided. School quality is a huge cause of suffering test scores. It’s highly predicated on environment and SES. Read the papers and you’d see that.
I didn’t asked questions. Off topic, again.
Dude you don’t even know the reason and context behind the debate so why are you talking abkht about it? PISA is garbage because it’s so easily effected by environment and doesn’t test intelligence. Read. The. Papers. I. Have. Linked. Before. Further. Commenting.
Race Realist the picture you chose does not make for a good gravitar. Good images for gravitars are faces like my gravitar or profiles like Afro’s
PP, why not?
Because people under the influence of EGI are not aware of it.
Professor steve thinks he’s defending Asian American Harvard admission because it’s the right thing to do, not because he’s East Asian
Race Realist thinks he’s defending southern Italians because he’s a good researcher, not because he’s southern Italian
HBD chick thinks she argues Northwestern Europeans are less clannish because it’s what the data shows, not because she’s Northwest European
Razib thinks he’s denying the importance of skin color genes to intelligence because it’s what the data shows, not because he’s south Asian
Lion thinks he’s defending the American-Israel alliance because it’s in American interests, not because he’s Jewish
JS thinks he’s defending Islam because they’re the best, and not because he’s Spaniard and they have Arab genes
Afro thinks he’s debunking HBD because it’s pseudoscience, not because he’s black
Only the most incredibly self-aware people can understand the real motives behind the arguments they make.
Yes I’m sure, it sounds wierd because I’m trying not to be too specific since you might consider the names you use for this purpose private
I will stop using my gravatar. Warn me when your moderation setting will be fixed so I can use it again.
No the avatar was working fine once you changed the email but then you added the same common name in the URL
Just post with the avatar without filling in the URL
Dude you don’t even know the reason and context behind the debate so why are you talking abkht about it? PISA is garbage because it’s so easily effected by environment and doesn’t test intelligence. Read. The. Papers. I. Have. Linked. Before. Further. Commenting.
Calm down. Your studies also uses PISA.
No the avatar was working fine once you changed the email but then you added the same common name in the URL
Just post with the avatar without filling in the URL
Ok
I changed my URL, hope it work
“Because people under the influence of EGI are not aware of it.”
People influenced by EGIs are ultra-biased. I used to be very, very biased myself. Years ago when I first got into this I would defend every single data point from Lynn and Rushton. Then I started reading critiques with an open mind and checked sources and changed my views on certain things. Italian IQ was one of them. I did used to believe it.
“Professor steve thinks he’s defending Asian American Harvard admission because it’s the right thing to do, not because he’s East Asian”
I think it’s the right thing to do.
“Race Realist thinks he’s defending southern Italians because he’s a good researcher, not because he’s southern Italian”
Damn right.
“HBD chick thinks she argues Northwestern Europeans are less clannish because it’s what the data shows, not because she’s Northwest European”
Meh. NW European fetishism is annoying. Muh special people. They are more pathologically altruistic though. I think NW Europeans will not be here soon, as well as North Europeans. Too altruistic. I think South Europe and Eastern Europe will escape but the other parts will fall.
“Razib thinks he’s denying the importance of skin color genes to intelligence because it’s what the data shows, not because he’s south Asian”
I read that whole exchange. He is 100 percent correct. Light skin comes from less sunlight. He really did decimate those guys.
we know the genetic architecture of pigmentation. that is, we know all the genes (~10, usually less than 6 in pairwise between population comparisons). skin color varies via a small number of large effect trait loci. in contrast, I.Q. varies by a huge number of small effect loci. so logically the correlation is obviously just a correlation. to give you an example, SLC45A2 explains 25-40% of the variance between africans and europeans.
oh christ, the retard can’t read. from rushton’s paper: The hypothesis that skin color is a genetic orrelate of IQ was endorsed by Jensen (2006) who suggested that pleiotropy
(genes having more than one effect) may underlie the relationship.
i told rushton several times to stop bringing up the hypothesis unless he outlines why it is trivially false.
http://inductivist.blogspot.ca/2011/12/skin-color-and-desirable-traits.html
“Lion thinks he’s defending the American-Israel alliance because it’s in American interests, not because it’s Jewish interests”
We shouldn’t be anywhere near Israel or the Middle East.
“JS thinks he’s defending Islam because they’re the best, and not because he’s Spaniard and they have Arab genes”
JS you think that? Arab genes are low in Spaniards. Another Nordicist myth.
“Afro thinks he’s debunking HBD because it’s pseudoscience, not because he’s black”
There’s pseudoscience everywhere.
“Only the most incredibly self-aware people can understand the real motives behind the arguments they make.”
No one does anything at all because they want to find truth. Got it.
However, Italians do worse than North Europeans on PISA, a more standardized and very high-n test (though better than Greeks).
Though really Italy is characterized more by its north-south intelligence gradient than by its average. North Italians perform almost as well as the South Germans (the brightest Germans), while South Italians perform almost as bad as the Turks.
… and were appalled by their shorter and more muscular physiques
Italians, like most Mediterranean peoples, are less muscular (or at least have lower hand-grip strength) than Slavo-Germanics.
There is no intelligence difference. PISA is not an intelligence test. Lynn’s data is garbage. Other measures of intelligence show no gap.
Ahah, Akarlin is the author of this garbage post.
http://www.unz.com/akarlin/not-sending-their-best/
According to him, Argentina, a first world 90% white country has an IQ of 85, so you see RR, don’t give much though importance to Italy’s PISA IQ North-South gap, it could be worse.
Lynn would say “Check the ‘Native’ admixture of the people in that country.”
I know a woman from Argentina and one from Uruguay. They told me that it’s pretty racist down there. The one from Uruguay told me that races stick with their own. She told me that one day she was on the bus with her mother and grandmother when she was a child and a black guy started talking to her mother. She said her grandfather said “No, you’re black. She’s white.”
And yea PISA is trash to infer IQ from.
Hum, the IQ 85 makes more sense now. Lol.
the frequency of blue eyes map and the strength map overlap. poles, baltics, and finns are huge too. it’s offensive linemen vs defensive linemen (blacks).
Most WSM winners are from Nordic countries or have Nordic ancestry. The cause is muscle fiber typing. There’s a higher amount of slow twitch fibers in Nordics and East Asians (and Kenyans) which is more conducive to strength and less conducive to ‘explosive’ sports. West Africans and their descendants dominate in sprinting competitions. Yea yea yea white guy won in 1960. So they will be less likely to be in strength comps and more likely to win BBing and physique comps. This is what we see.
Each fiber fires off through different pathways, whether they be anaerobic or aerobic. The body uses two types of energy systems, aerobic or anaerobic, which then generate Adenosine Triphosphate, better known as ATP, which causes the muscles to contract. Depending on the type of fibers an individual has dictates which pathway muscles use to contract which then, ultimately, dictate if there is high muscular endurance or if the fibers will fire off faster for more speed.
Type I fibers lead to more strength and muscular endurance as they are slow to fire off, while Type II fibers fire quicker and tire faster. Slow twitch fibers use oxygen more efficiently, while fast twitch fibers do not burn oxygen to create energy. Slow twitch muscles delay firing which is why the endurance is so high in individuals with these fibers whereas for those with fast twitch fibers have their muscles fire more explosively. Slow twitch fibers don’t tire as easily while fast twitch fibers tire quickly. This is why West African blacks and their descendants dominate in sprinting and other competitions where fast twitch muscle fibers dominate in comparison to slow twitch.
See this discussion on Kenyans and marathon running I had.
They also have the somatype conducive to success at marathoning as well.
Also, Kenyans are the ONLY AFRICAN COUNTRY to ever place in the WSM. This is evidence for my theory that muscle fiber typing is the cause for racial differences in sports.
Look up East Asian PLs and Nordic PLs. They both have high amounts of slow twitch fibers. Muscle fiber typing causes racial differences in sports.
More blacks place higher in physique, BBing comps, etc; more Caucasians and East Asians (and Kenyans) place higher in strength comps.
A white man has won the WSM every year since its inception. West African descended blacks dominate BBing and physique comps. Eurasians dominate in marathon running,
May be Blacks are underepresented because of malnutrition, what do you think ?
Blacks also have a different morphology, they have long limbs proportionaly to their bodies.
Muscle fiber type might not be the only factor responsible for these differences.
Btw, why do you think some groups evolved to have more of a certain type of muscle fiber ?
“May be Blacks are underepresented because of malnutrition, what do you think ?”
More blacks would be winning WSM which we don’t see. There are differences in nutrition due to SES, but someone dedicated to it will get what they need nutritionally.
“Blacks also have a different morphology, they have long limbs proportionaly to their bodies.”
Right. But Nordics are also taller on average which also increases ROM and they still dominate. Though a lot of winners have been shorter and stocky, which is good for these competitions. The Atlas stone competition is a good example. That’s another plus for my theory. And Kenyans also have similar morphology and have placed in WSM. So it’s not about that. It’s about muscle fibers.
“Muscle fiber type might not be the only factor responsible for these differences.”
It’s the main factor.
“Btw, why do you think some groups evolved to have more of a certain type of muscle fiber ?”
It’s easier to survive in certain environments with different types. Think about fast twitch fibers in the African Savannah. Then think about evolution in high-altitude environment and what needs to be done for survival and how selection would occur for that eventual phenotype we see today in Kenyans that has them be outstanding marathoners (their morphology is also a huge part as they also have a longer stride).
Muscle fiber typing largely explains racial differences in sports.
And also think about
Hmm endurance running may be a cause of the evolution of the human body form.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v432/n7015/full/nature03052.html
Look at endurance runners and how they’re built. The difference is muscle fiber typing as well as somatypic differences which then translate into differences in sports. That explains a large amount of the difference.
And also in a survival situation, hormones like adrenaline and noradrenaline get released by the brain which causes fight or flight.
As for slow twitch fibers, it has to do with the lifestyle of the Kenyans in their environment, which I guess can be an example of how culture through how an environment is effects selection. I know a lot more about fast twitch fibers, honestly but I’ll get back to you on slow twitch.
As for Nordics, my opinion is that they had to do a lot of heavy lifting and spend more time endurance running and those that could do both got selected for.
Here’s a good read.
http://run-down.com/guests/je_black_athletes_p2.php
As for Nordics, my opinion is that they had to do a lot of heavy lifting and spend more time endurance running and those that could do both got selected for.
Can you develop ?
Slow twitch fibers use more Afire through aerobic pathways. Breaking down fats and proteins takes longer through aerobic respiration. Moreover, in cold temperatures, the body switches from burning fat to burning carbohydrates for energy, which will be broken down slower due to the aerobic perspiration. Slow twitch (Type I) fibers fire through aerobic pathways and don’t tire nearly as quickly as type II fibers. Also CHO reserves will be used more in cold weather. The body’s ability to use oxygen decreases in cold weather as well, so having slow twitch fibers is ideal. They fire off slower so they’ll be able to be more active for a longer period of time. Those who possess these traits will have a higher chance to survive in these environments. Those with slow twitch fibers also have to use more oxygen. They have larger blood vessels, more mitochondria and higher concentrations of myoglobin which gives muscles the reddish color.
You must be a comedian.
“When they first arrived in large numbers in the United States, the tall, thin, pale WASP elite felt the newcomers looked primitive. They were disgusted by their darker more hirsute complexions, and were appalled by their shorter and more muscular physiques.”
Idiotic.
http://italianthro.blogspot.com/2015/02/white-on-arrival.html?m=1
Why do you not give an estimate? I’m also sure you’re aware that malnutrition, disease, etc contribute to low IQ scores. Why does 100 year old fat matter? Nutrition matters obviously. Italian immigrants were poor upon arrival to America. Then nutrition got better and something funny happened. Look at how much money Italians make in America. And yes 80 percent of Italian immigrants since the 1880s are from the south of the country.
Anatoly Karlan, PISA is trash to infer intelligence from. I guess all of the extreme fluctuations must be genetic changes? Migration can’t explain all of it then you also have to factor in school quality.
I’ve been talking about PISA garbage inferring IQ from the for days now. It’s not an IQ test. Lynn’s data is garbage. Purer measures show no gap. See D’Amico et al 2012 and Cornoldi et al 2010. No gap exists. And yes, comparing children of different ages across regions makes a ton of sense!!!
And Lynn’s data is trash because 50 10 year olds is the number for a whole country. Lol.
“but I suspect Italians are still the biggest brained for their body size (most encephalized).”
You’re a broken record. Show proof that EQ is valid within species, specifically humans. Is EQ what shows the differences in IQ between humans? Or something else?
EQ is garbage. You’ll understand that eventually. I know it’s hard to get rid of theories you hold, but when new information comes out, you have to modify your theory lest you look like an ideologue, frantically searching for anything to confirm your biases. But I guess because Herculano-Houzel isn’t named JP Rushton or Arthur Jensen she doesn’t know anything. A neuroscientist or psychologist, a hard scientist vs soft scientists, who would know more about the brain and brain size?
You’re a broken record. Show proof that EQ is valid within species, specifically humans.
There is disagreement about whether or not brain size should be corrected for body size when examining brain size/GMA correlations. Controlling for body size changes the question from “Is IQ correlated with absolute brain size?” to “Is IQ correlated with relative brain size?” Although these are quite different questions, evidence shows that the answer to both is yes.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2668913/
Is EQ what shows the differences in IQ between humans? Or something else?
Both.
EQ is garbage. You’ll understand that eventually. I know it’s hard to get rid of theories you hold, but when new information comes out, you have to modify your theory lest you look like an ideologue, frantically searching for anything to confirm your biases. But I guess because Herculano-Houzel isn’t named JP Rushton or Arthur Jensen she doesn’t know anything. A neuroscientist or psychologist, a hard scientist vs soft scientists, who would know more about the brain and brain size?
You don’t even understand Herculano-Houzel’s theory. She argued that cortical neuoron number is a better measure of intelligence than encephalization quotient. Her theory was based on the assumption that humans, because of the high primate neuron packing density, would prove to have more cortical neurons than even animals with much larger brains. Her hypothesis was falsified when the number of cortical neurons in whales was found to exceed our own.
I’ve not read that paper in a while. How high is the correlation or what not within humans in regards to EQ? What is the average EQ between humans?
“You don’t even understand Herculano-Houzel’s theory.”
Im pretty sure I do. I just reread her book a second time.
“She argued that cortical neuoron number is a better measure of intelligence than encephalization quotient.”*
It is. Have you read her papers on EQ that I’ve provided? The most telling one is on mice.
Encephalization, or brain size larger than expected from body size, has long been considered to correlate with improved cognitive abilities across species and even intelligence. However, it is still unknown what characteristics of relatively large brains underlie their improved functions. Here, it is shown that more encephalized rodent species have the number of neurons expected for their brain size, but a larger number of neurons than expected for their body size. The number of neurons in excess relative to body size might be available for improved associative functions and, thus, be responsible for the cognitive advantage observed in more encephalized animals. It is further proposed that, if such neuronal excess does provide for improved cognitive abilities, then the total number of excess neurons in each species—here dubbed the neuronal index—should be a better indicator of cognitive abilities than the encephalization quotient (EQ). Because the neuronal index is a function of both the number of neurons expected from the size of the body and the absolute number of neurons in the brain, differences in this parameter across species that share similar EQs might explain why these often have different cognitive capabilities, particularly when comparing.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.20598/full
Please read this paper. I fully understand where you’re coming from but since it seems you’ve not read any paper I’ve provided you don’t see my view.
“Her theory was based on the assumption that humans, because of the high primate neuron packing density, ”
No mammal had a higher NPD than us, we have more neurons crammed into a smaller cortex. The long-finned whale cortex is twice our size.
” would prove to have more cortical neurons than even animals with much larger brains. Her hypothesis was falsified when the number of cortical neurons in whales was found to exceed our own.”
Mortensen et al showed their brains scale similarly to primates. NPD matters as well.
“She argued that cortical neuoron number is a better measure of intelligence than encephalization quotient.”*
It is.
I just told you that whales have more cortical neurons than humans, yet humans are quantum leaps more intelligent. Thus her theory failed to explain what makes people so smart, which was her goal. EQ on the other hand shows humans towering over whales and everything else, proving to be a more valid measure.
Encephalization, or brain size larger than expected from body size, has long been considered to correlate with improved cognitive abilities across species and even intelligence. However, it is still unknown what characteristics of relatively large brains underlie their improved functions.
Just because scientists don’t fully understand it yet, doesn’t make it any less valid
Here, it is shown that more encephalized rodent species have the number of neurons expected for their brain size, but a larger number of neurons than expected for their body size. The number of neurons in excess relative to body size might be available for improved associative functions and, thus, be responsible for the cognitive advantage observed in more encephalized animals. It is further proposed that, if such neuronal excess does provide for improved cognitive abilities, then the total number of excess neurons in each species—here dubbed the neuronal index—should be a better indicator of cognitive abilities than the encephalization quotient (EQ).
This is just a hypothesis. It’s very easy to throw ideas in the air without any kind of empirical verification. No one ever claimed EQ was a perfect measure of intelligence (nothing so simple could be), but there’s no evidence neuronal index is more accurate.
Because the neuronal index is a function of both the number of neurons expected from the size of the body and the absolute number of neurons in the brain, differences in this parameter across species that share similar EQs might explain why these often have different cognitive capabilities, particularly when comparing.
Here they’re proposing one COMBINE EQ with neuronal index. Obviously if you combine multiple measures, you’ll increase validity, but EQ is still the SINGLE best KNOWN predictor of inter-species intelligence.
“Her theory was based on the assumption that humans, because of the high primate neuron packing density, ”
No mammal had a higher NPD than us, we have more neurons crammed into a smaller cortex. The long-finned whale cortex is twice our size.
Again you don’t understand her theory which is probably why she ignored your email.
She’s not claiming NDP = intelligence, nor is she claiming humans have the highest NDP.
She’s claiming NDP multiplied by brain size = more neurons, and more cortical neurons = more intelligence
Since primates have the highest NDP, and humans are the biggest brained primates, it was logical for her to guess that humans might have the most cortical neurons.
But unfortunately whales do.
So it was a good theory, but ultimately she failed to usurp encephalization quotient as the most valid measure of inter-species intelligence.
“I just told you that whales have more cortical neurons than humans, yet humans are quantum leaps more intelligent. Thus her theory failed to explain what makes people so smart, which was her goal. EQ on the other hand shows humans towering over whales and everything else, proving to be a more valid measure.
Maybe you’re just glancing over what I write. I admit I am not an expert here. My speciality is physiology, metabolism and nutrition. The brain isn’t my forte. I admit my limitations of knowledge.
And literally, has there ever been a between species comparison of intelligence? The reason I keep bringing up the water is because the main thing that sets us apart is full bipedalism. That’s what makes unique.
“Here they’re proposing one COMBINE EQ with neuronal index. Obviously if you combine multiple measures, you’ll increase validity, but EQ is still the SINGLE best KNOWN predictor of inter-species intelligence”
Reread the quote.
“Again you don’t understand her theory which is probably why she ignored your email”
Yes I do. How do I not? I’m giving a plausible explanation that you’re not addressing. I read the Mortensen er as paper a few times. They so say they underscore her theory, but if you’d have read the paper I linked yesterday, you’d see the neuron amounts are from the IF, not any other estimation. So, again, I away them to use the IF on the long-finned dolphin brain.
And they are pretty amazing animals as well. So it’s not like it’s unusual. I’ve also repeated my thoughts on it numerous times.
“She’s claiming NDP multiplied by brain size = more neurons, and more cortical neurons = more intelligence”
Mortensen er Al showed that whales had less cortical neurons per bodyweight compared to humans and less npd.
Also most of the neurons in their cortex are at the part of the brain uses for hearing. Echolocation.
“Since primates have the highest NDP, and humans are the biggest brained primates, it was logical for her to guess that humans might have the most cortical neurons.”
Using just a comparison of primates, without her using the IF on whales (which I await) you have to admit it’s better than EQ for primate comparisons. If you don’t it shows your bias.
I await her to use the If. The chart I linked yesterday was on animals using the If no not other method.
” So it was a good theory, but ultimately she failed to usurp encephalization quotient as the most valid measure of inter-species intelligence”
Let’s say it doesn’t hold with whales. Between primate comparison on neurons and cortical neurons is better predictor of intelligence than EQ.
And literally, has there ever been a between species comparison of intelligence? The reason I keep bringing up the water is because the main thing that sets us apart is full bipedalism. That’s what makes unique.
If you don’t think it’s even possible to compare the intelligence of different animals, how can you assert with such confidence that cortical neurons is a better measure than encephalization?
Yes I do. How do I not? I’m giving a plausible explanation that you’re not addressing. I read the Mortensen er as paper a few times. They so say they underscore her theory, but if you’d have read the paper I linked yesterday, you’d see the neuron amounts are from the IF, not any other estimation. So, again, I away them to use the IF on the long-finned dolphin brain.
Well until she uses her IF method on whales and shows they have far fewer cortical neurons than humans, and shows her neuron counting method is superior to the paper that found the opposite, it remains speculation.
And they are pretty amazing animals as well.
If you tried to tell a group of scientists whales are smarter than people you’d be laughed out of the room
Mortensen er Al showed that whales had less cortical neurons per bodyweight compared to humans and less npd.
Her theory was that the ABSOLUTE number of cortical neurons explains inter-species intelligence, not the npd and not the cortical neuron/body weight ratio.
Also most of the neurons in their cortex are at the part of the brain uses for hearing. Echolocation.
There’s always a reason why a model fails to predict, but it doesn’t change the fact that it failed.
“Since primates have the highest NDP, and humans are the biggest brained primates, it was logical for her to guess that humans might have the most cortical neurons.”
Using just a comparison of primates, without her using the IF on whales (which I await) you have to admit it’s better than EQ for primate comparisons. If you don’t it shows your bias.
Humans have an encephalization of 7.6. Chimps have one of 2.4. Rhesus monkeys have one of 2.1. Seems to work pretty well in primates, but there are hundreds of primates and you cite only one example where her method gives more plausible results than EQ (capuchin monkeys supposedly having higher EQs than gorillas).
I don’t feel comfortable endorsing a method that has not been well researched, and I don’t think this has been.
And PP. Rushton showed that Asians have more excess neurons than Whites who have more excess neurons than blacks. He used Tobias (1970) data to infer that. Hmmm….
“If you don’t think it’s even possible to compare the intelligence of different animals,”
I don’t think I implied that, if I did excuse me.
Do you think there is a direct and unbiased way to test actual intelligence differences between humans and cetaceans?
“how can you assert with such confidence that cortical neurons is a better measure than encephalization?”
Because we’re superior where it counts. More packing density in our cortex since we’re primates and most mammals iirc (don’t feel like checking the reference) have the same frontal cortex volume around 37 percent. However humans have the most frontal neurons at 1.2 billion.
The reason I’m pretty confident in this method and theory is because of what the cerebral cortex is important for: thought, language, voluntary movement, information processing, reasoning and perception. Also the PFC is known to be obviously very important to intelligent behavior. The lateral prefrontal cortex is the ‘global hub with a brain-wide influence that facilitates the ability to implement control processes central to human intelligence.’
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3392686/
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-88-470-1974-4_11
“Well until she uses her IF method on whales and shows they have far fewer cortical neurons than humans, and shows her neuron counting method is superior to the paper that found the opposite, it remains speculation.”
Understandable. I address the discrepancy from Mortenson et al. Though I’m sure you know that what I’m talking about, all of the data is done using the same methods.
“If you tried to tell a group of scientists whales are smarter than people you’d be laughed out of the room”
I didn’t say that.
“Her theory was that the ABSOLUTE number of cortical neurons explains inter-species intelligence, not the npd and not the cortical neuron/body weight ratio.”
You’ve not read her book so you’re speaking from ignorance.
She says NPD from primate brains gives us our outstanding cognitive abilities in comparison to other animals.
Herculano-Houzel writes on page 104-105:
Cetaceans are actually close cousins of the artiodactyls, grouped together in the order Cetartiodactyla, in which case the neuronal scaling rules that we found that apply to the cerebral cortex of artiodactyls (and rodents, eulipotyplans, and afrotherians) should also extend to whales and dolphins. We can thus predict the large cerebral cortex of several cetacean species, such as the pilot whale (Globicephala macroryncha), which is about as twice as large as the human cerebral cortex, would still be only composed of around 3 billion neurons. Even the largest whale cortex, at around 6-7 kilograms is predicted to still have fewer than 10 billion neurons.
The not-so large number of neurons that we predict for the cortex of large whales, based on the scaling rules for their cousins the artiodactyls, is at odds with the much larger previous stereological estimate of 13 billion neurons in the cerebral cortex of the Minke whale (Balaenoptera acutorostrata), and the even larger estimate of 15 billion neurons in the smaller cortex of the harbor porpoise (both still smaller than the number of neurons in the human brain, though barely). However, both of these studies suffered from the same unfortunately common problem in stereology. undersampling, in one case drawing estimates from only 12 sections out of over 3,000 sections of the Minke whale’s cerebral cortex, when it is recommended that 700-1000 cells be counted per individual brain structure.With such extreme undersampling, it is easy to make invalid interpretations—like trying to predict the outcome of a national election by consulting just a small handful of people.
So what Mortenson et al say about the harbor porpoises is invalid until the IF is used. I can honestly say that I don’t have the knowledge to assess the Mortenson et al paper just yet.
“There’s always a reason why a model fails to predict, but it doesn’t change the fact that it failed.”
So when theories fail they get thrown out and do not get modified with new information (assuming this is true)?
“Humans have an encephalization of 7.6. Chimps have one of 2.4. Rhesus monkeys have one of 2.1. Seems to work pretty well in primates, but there are hundreds of primates and you cite only one example where her method gives more plausible results than EQ (capuchin monkeys supposedly having higher EQs than gorillas).”
Overall brain size is a better predictor within primates.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6321027_Overall_Brain_Size_and_Not_Encephalization_Quotient_Best_Predicts_Cognitive_Ability_across_Non-Human_Primates
Read this too.
https://books.google.com/books?id=KvIDVlSExS8C&pg=PA195&lpg=PA195&dq=capuchin+monkey+eq&source=bl&ots=Veq5H7E3RH&sig=fNtkX1k2S8koV7NO7dHaS8h4mqU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwisqamlkMHRAhWM7SYKHSD1DlMQ6AEIPzAH#v=onepage&q=capuchin%20monkey%20eq&f=false
Dog EQ is 1.2. Looks like they’re not too intelligent. But wait, a g factor for dogs:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016028961630023X
“I don’t feel comfortable endorsing a method that has not been well researched, and I don’t think this has been.”
Understandable. I await Herculano-Houzel’s results. Her neuronal scaling rules have been on point for every other species and I doubt it will be different for these whales.
By the way, do you agree that even if it doesn’t hold for cetaceans that the absolute number of neurons in the cerebral cortex a better predictor of cognitive ability than EQ within primates?
Your ethnic genetic interests make you lose your temper so easily, that’s quite impressive.
No not really. I don’t have any EGIs. I hate when people spew refuted bullshit. It’s annoying. Especially when I’ve corrected misconceptions numerous times. And I have a short fuse. It’s just a personality traits of mine. If you couldn’t tell I’m a pretty aggressive guy and that helps me with my businesses. I need to be on top of people constantly talking to them and making sure they’re doing what they’re supposed to do.
But anyway, when you have to repeat yourself time and time again because people are too stubborn to take new information, it does get tiring. You can’t validate Lynn’s garbage numbers for Italy because PISA is garbage for intelligence.
I don’t have any EGIs.
That’s not what your behaviour indicate.
But anyway, when you have to repeat yourself time and time again because people are too stubborn to take new information, it does get tiring. You can’t validate Lynn’s garbage numbers for Italy because PISA is garbage for intelligence.
But they are not garbage when they put Italy’s IQ at 102, right ?
“That’s not what your behaviour indicate.”
I care about the truth. I don’t care about people I’ve never met. There’s where your theory crumbles.
“But they are not garbage when they put Italy’s IQ at 102, right ?”
Look at his sample for Italy. I don’t remember off the top of my head. Average iq in Italy is about 100.
I care about the truth. I don’t care about people I’ve never met. There’s where your theory crumbles.
Nope. It’s not because your say so that this is true.
You think I care about people I never met? I care about my immediate friends and family and clients. People who actually have an effect on my life. I don’t care about people I don’t know. I care about the truth.
If I never would have said my ethnicity what would you be saying to me? Pretend I never stated my ethnicity. Then we can have an actual discussion.
You think I care about people I never met? I care about my immediate friends and family and clients. People who actually have an effect on my life. I don’t care about people I don’t know. I care about the truth.
No, but you care about what people might think about your race, and by extension, about you.
If I never would have said my ethnicity what would you be saying to me? Pretend I never stated my ethnicity. Then we can have an actual discussion.
I am not autistic, I would have noticed something. It’s unlikely that a non-italian person would be so passionate about this debate.
“No, but you care about what people might think about your race, and by extension, about you.”
No I do not. I care about truth. I’m pretty successful in regards to what I do as is my family and extended family (2nd, 3rd, 4th cousins).
“I am not autistic, I would have noticed something. It’s unlikely that a non-italian person would be so passionate about this debate.”
Dude the point is all of that doesn’t matter. The data matters as well as what data is used. Discuss the data. Is that what really matters or not?
PISA is horrible to infer intelligence from. How do you know that a non-Italian person wouldn’t be so ‘passionate’ (AKA wanting to know the truth) about the debate?
No I do not. I care about truth.
That’s what you said, but you are probably lying to yourself,
Dude the point is all of that doesn’t matter. The data matters as well as what data is used. Discuss the data. Is that what really matters or not?
I simply answered the question you asked me.
PISA is horrible to infer intelligence from.
I never talked about PISA.
How do you know that a non-Italian person wouldn’t be so ‘passionate’ (AKA wanting to know the truth) about the debate?
Don’t be dishonest, I said it’s unlikely that a non-Italian would be so passionate about such a specific debate, I never said it was impossible. And passionate doesn’t necessarily mean “wanting to know the truth”, it can also mean “standing up for thy ethnic genetic interest”.
“That’s what you said, but you are probably lying to yourself,”
This is really a waste of time to respond to in the context of ‘debate’, don’t you think? Why are you so interested? Talk about the data. You keep assuming that I’m ultra biased. Assuming my motives is ad hominem which is fallacious.
“I simply answered the question you asked me.”
See above.
“I never talked about PISA.”
This is what Lynn’s theory rests on.
“Don’t be dishonest, I said it’s unlikely that a non-Italian would be so passionate about such a specific debate, I never said it was impossible. And passionate doesn’t necessarily mean “wanting to know the truth”, it can also mean “standing up for thy ethnic genetic interest”.”
That’s fallacious. You’re assuming one’s motive. All of this is really a waste of my time to respond to so I will not respond to further fallacious statements from you.
This is really a waste of time to respond to in the context of ‘debate’, don’t you think? Why are you so interested? Talk about the data. You keep assuming that I’m ultra biased. Assuming my motives is ad hominem which is fallacious.
You are being dishonest, again. I never based my argumentation on whether you were subject to your ethnic genetic interests or not.
That’s fallacious. You’re assuming one’s motive. All of this is really a waste of my time to respond to so I will not respond to further fallacious statements from you.
You based yourself on 2 studies to infer that there is no genetic IQ gap between N.Italians & S.Italians, and you keep asserting this like it’s absolute truth, if you were absolutely honest you wouldn’t assert things like that. That’s why I think your ethnic genetic interests make you dishonest in this precise case. But anyway, it’s a simple observation, not the core of my argument.
These studies you used are far from perfect since they are based on only a few hundreds children, and we don’t know how they were chosen. I doubt they were from the poorer areas of S.Italy (i.e with lower IQ, genetic & phenotypic).
Also, I wouldn’t have argue with you on these 2 studies (since virtually all scientific studies have flaws) if there wasn’t so much reasons to doubt about a perfect genetic IQ equality between Northern & S.Italians.
– S.Italy is poorer than N.Italy. Rich areas attract high IQ people, while poor ones do the opposite. Also, dumb people tends to be poorer than smarter individuals.
– S.Italians are more inbred than N.Italians. Inbreeding decrease genetic IQ.
– There is more criminality in S.Italy. Criminals tends to have lower IQ than the general population.
– S.Italians have darker features than N.Italians. Among Europeans, light eyes & hairs are positively correlated with IQ. Worldwide, light skin is positively correlated with IQ.
– Most italian “genius” are from N.Italy. Renaissance started in the north.
Of course you might say all of these differences are 100% environmental, but remember this is never all about environment or genes, both work together.
So when there is so much reasons to doubt that S.Italians are genetically as smart as N.Italians, you need more than 2 studies on a few hundreds of kids who are probably not representative of the whole country. Especially when these studies don’t compare them on actual IQ tests but on subtests like RCPM.
I don’t blame you for bringing these studies to offset Lynn’s. Rather for using these studies to arrogantly assert without a single doubt that there is absolutely no genetic IQ gap between N. & S.Italians.
“You based yourself on 2 studies to infer that there is no genetic IQ gap between N.Italians & S.Italians, and you keep asserting this like it’s absolute truth, if you were absolutely honest you wouldn’t assert things like that. That’s why I think your ethnic genetic interests make you dishonest in this precise case. But anyway, it’s a simple observation, not the core of my argument.”
The core reason for the debate is explaining the economic differences between the N and S. You said that IQ and personality traits (both largely genetic) can only explain so much while other traits show where the rest of the variation comes from. But the other variables that you bring up are cultural.
I have already admitted it could be 2 or 3 points. That’s meaningless in terms of causality for determining why Southern Italy has lower economic development. Environmental factors explain both a ton of the PISA variation as well as the huge disparity between the two regions. You haven’t read the papers I’ve provided so you wouldn’t know that.
“These studies you used are far from perfect since they are based on only a few hundreds children, and we don’t know how they were chosen. I doubt they were from the poorer areas of S.Italy (i.e with lower IQ, genetic & phenotypic).”
I read a study about white Americans’ attitudes towards minority groups when they are shown that replacement will occur in 25 years. The same was 415 white Americans, median age 48 and 212 women. They said it was a representative sample. But wait, it’s only a few hundred people for 196 million people!! Is the study’s conclusion incorrect because “only a few hundred people” were involved?
Click to access 10.1177%400146167214524993.pdf
Read the papers I link and you will get the information you ask for.
<em<Participants of the study were 288 children (146 males, 142 females, aged between 8.5 and 9.6), attending the fourth and fifth grade of primary schools situated in suburban areas of Palermo, Sicily. None of the children was receiving special education services or had documented brain injury, or behavioral problems. As reported by teachers, none of the children were from groups with cultural disadvantage. The data of children that attended Sicilian schools were collected
between the years 2007 and 2008, so they belonged to the same age cohort described by Belacchi et al. (2008) and Cornoldi et al. (2010).
Click to access 2012-damico.pdf
And keep in mind these are on children, where environment effects IQ due to low heritability. I don’t think you understand that.
“– S.Italy is poorer than N.Italy. Rich areas attract high IQ people, while poor ones do the opposite. Also, dumb people tends to be poorer than smarter individuals.”
Do you have any idea about the history of Italy?
“– S.Italians are more inbred than N.Italians. Inbreeding decrease genetic IQ.”
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19485565.1957.9987307?needAccess=true
Some deleterious effects due to inbreeding can be ameliorated in one or two generations of no inbreeding.
Third cousin marriage rate is high, but that shows no negative effects (see Iceland) and actually increases fertility.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080207140855.htm
“– There is more criminality in S.Italy. Criminals tends to have lower IQ than the general population.”
http://www.thelocal.it/20160222/see-where-crimes-take-place-in-italy
Click to access en_tema_868.pdf
“– S.Italians have darker features than N.Italians. Among Europeans, light eyes & hairs are positively correlated with IQ. Worldwide, light skin is positively correlated with IQ.”
http://www.geocities.ws/racial_reality/italians.html
That doesn’t mean there are IQ differences. Do you understand that? I’ve literally shown that Sicilians score higher than N. Italians on some tests but that’s not good enough for you. Overall, they score either slightly lower, the same, or slightly higher. Read the papers and links I provide and and you would see this.
“– Most italian “genius” are from N.Italy. Renaissance started in the north.”
Lol Lynn. That’s what it looks like when Lynn’s ‘analysis’ is put to it. Does that look accurate?
“this is never all about environment or genes, both work together.”
Exactly. You have not even read one of the papers I’ve provided you so you cannot really comment on what I’m saying until you do so.
“So when there is so much reasons to doubt that S.Italians are genetically as smart as N.Italians, you need more than 2 studies on a few hundreds of kids who are probably not representative of the whole country. Especially when these studies don’t compare them on actual IQ tests but on subtests like RCPM.”
First, to test whether we replicated the effect of the racial shift on racial attitudes observed in Studies 1 and 2 in this nationally representative sample of White participants.
…
our analyses will focus on the subpopulation of White participants (n = 415; 212 women, Mage = 48.48, SDage = 16.97)
Click to access 10.1177%400146167214524993.pdf
Guess their data is meaningless.
“I don’t blame you for bringing these studies to offset Lynn’s. Rather for using these studies to arrogantly assert without a single doubt that there is absolutely no genetic IQ gap between N. & S.Italians.”
The only ‘studies’ showing a ‘gap’ are PISA tests. All other measures show that there is no difference, there is a small difference or there is a slight difference in favor of S. Italians. Read the studis and you’ll see about how Sicilians score.
Keep repeating correlations, I’ll keep providing actual data for my case.
I have already admitted it could be 2 or 3 points.
Ok. Then we agree.
I read a study about white Americans’ attitudes towards minority groups when they are shown that replacement will occur in 25 years. The same was 415 white Americans, median age 48 and 212 women. They said it was a representative sample. But wait, it’s only a few hundred people for 196 million people!! Is the study’s conclusion incorrect because “only a few hundred people” were involved?
Read carefully what I wrote, you are being off topic, again. You probably missed this part of my comment: Also, I wouldn’t have argue with you on these 2 studies (since virtually all scientific studies have flaws) if there wasn’t so much reasons to doubt about a perfect genetic IQ equality between Northern & S.Italians.
Do you have any idea about the history of Italy?
This is not an argument, try again.
“– Most italian “genius” are from N.Italy. Renaissance started in the north.”
Yes, indeed.
Keep repeating correlations, I’ll keep providing actual data for my case.
Being able to copy & paste studies, which are in some case not even related to the actual debate, doesn’t mean you are right. To be an actual scientist you have to use your brain. Saying there is no gap because 2 studies with huge flaws say so is retard.
When I asked you to develop your “theory” on Nordics being more selected for slow twitch muscle fiber, you weren’t able to answer, it says much on your reasoning abilities.
“Ok. Then we agree.”
I said may.
“if there wasn’t so much reasons to doubt about a perfect genetic IQ equality between Northern & S.Italians.”
That doesn’t mean it’s true. Correlation, Causation, etc.
“This is not an argument, try again.”
Sure thing Stefan Molyneaux. Answer the question.
“Yes, indeed.”
You’ve not even read Lynn’s paper and what he did to inflate the number of important people for the north, being completely dishonest with his breakdown of Italy into north, central and south. That’s what you don’t get.
“Being able to copy & paste studies, which are in some case not even related to the actual debate, doesn’t mean you are right. To be an actual scientist you have to use your brain. Saying there is no gap because 2 studies with huge flaws say so is retard.”
lol
OK let’s say there is 2 to 3 points. Now what? That doesn’t explain disparities between the two regions. I don’t think you get that. And anything else is cultural, environmental and has to do with SES.
And all of Lynn’s studies have huge flaws so that was a nice laugh.
I’ve discussed and provided enough data for my case.
“When I asked you to develop your “theory” on Nordics being more selected for slow twitch muscle fiber, you weren’t able to answer, it says much on your reasoning abilities.”
Didn’t see the comment.
Also, the Renaissance began in Florence which is central Italy.
This map was done by Lynn ?
I’ve always wondered how we could scientifically measure an historical figure’s importance. Now I understand, it’s Lynn, so It’s not science.
And the chosen period (1800-1950) is terribly biased against Southern Europe.
Italy had her golden age from 1300 to 1600, France from 1650 to 1800 and Spain from 1500 to 1600. At these times, the German Lands, Scandinavia and the British Isles appeared somewhat backward (or secondary) relative to Southern Europe, only the Low Countries were on par with us.
I said may.
Actually, 2 or 3 points is arbitrary, it might be 4 or 5.
That doesn’t mean it’s true. Correlation, Causation, etc.
I never asserted it was. You are off topic.
OK let’s say there is 2 to 3 points. Now what? That doesn’t explain disparities between the two regions. I don’t think you get that. And anything else is cultural, environmental and has to do with SES.
I never said the IQ gap explain everything. Tons of other things matter in that case. But it doesn’t mean it has absolutely nothing to do with IQ as you keep saying like it’s absolute truth.
And all of Lynn’s studies have huge flaws so that was a nice laugh.
I never contradicted you on that.
I’ve discussed and provided enough data for my case.
Which have huge flaws.
Also, the Renaissance began in Florence which is central Italy.
Ok. N.Italy still played a more important role than S.Italy during the Renaissance.
“Ok. N.Italy still played a more important role than S.Italy during the Renaissance.”
True, but there is one important factor to take into account: the Kingdom of Naples has been an overseas possession of Aragon and Spain from the late middle ages to the early 19th century. And the Spanish Bourbons continued their feudalistic quasi colonial rule in the independent the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies until Italy’s unification.
It contrasts a lot with central and northern Italy’s vibrant, rival, politically inventive and ,more importantly, independent city-states and mid-sized states. It’s relatively easy to understand: while the north had small fragile states that had to be very creative to get an edge over their rivals, the south was a peripheral dominion of very powerful states so it had no incentive to find a niche in which it could be competitive and it wasn’t ruled for its own interest.
“Actually, 2 or 3 points is arbitrary, it might be 4 or 5.”
Source>?
“I never asserted it was. You are off topic.”
That’s all you’re really saying to me. “Their IQ is low because of this, this, and that.”
“But it doesn’t mean it has absolutely nothing to do with IQ as you keep saying like it’s absolute truth.”
Prove it.
“I never contradicted you on that.”
Lynn’s papers are much more flawed with idiotic conclusions.
“Which have huge flaws.”
You’re only saying that because it disagrees with your conclusion. You’ve also not responded to them.
“Ok. N.Italy still played a more important role than S.Italy during the Renaissance.”
Who the hell cares? This is about socio-economic disparities currently between the north and south which the affect test scores, the main point of Lynn’s thesis.
Source>?
I simply say that a gap of 2 or 3 point is arbitrary, it might be 4 or 5, or 6 if you prefer.
That’s all you’re really saying to me. “Their IQ is low because of this, this, and that.”
You are lying, I never said that.
Prove it.
I don’t assert anything. You are saying differences between N. & S. Italy doesn’t have anything to do with IQ, it’s you who have to prove it.
Lynn’s papers are much more flawed with idiotic conclusions.
Prove it.
You’re only saying that because it disagrees with your conclusion. You’ve also not responded to them.
I already explained why these studies were far from perfect. See my previous comments.
Who the hell cares? This is about socio-economic disparities currently between the north and south which the affect test scores, the main point of Lynn’s thesis.
I wasn’t talking about Lynn thesis here. Simply pointing out an obvious fact.
“I simply say that a gap of 2 or 3 point is arbitrary, it might be 4 or 5, or 6 if you prefer.”
That’s what actual IQ tests show. Not garbage PISA.
“You are lying, I never said that.”
Correlation doesn’t mean causation. You know that. That doesn’t mean there is lower IQ. I’ve shown you what, four or five studies?
“I don’t assert anything. You are saying differences between N. & S. Italy doesn’t have anything to do with IQ, it’s you who have to prove it.”
I’ve shown that school quality is a large part of the difference. I showed that environment and culture have to do with test scores. You haven’t read anything I’ve provided to you on that nor have you read any of the studies I’ve provided about IQ tests except oh low n size. So then do you not accept Lynn’s worldwide numbers because they’re on children with a sample size of 50?
“Prove it.”
OK here’s one.
He writes:
The diffusion of genes from the Near East and North Africa may explain why the populations of southern Italy have IQs in the range of 89–92, intermediate between those of northern Italy and central and northern Europe (about 100) and those
of the Near East and North Africa (in the range of 80–84) (these IQs are given in Lynn, 2006). This also explains the north–south gradient of IQ in Italy in which the regional IQs do not show a clear dichotomy between north and south but rather a gradient in which IQs decline steadily with more southerly latitude.
This is retarded because non-European admixture is lower than the average for Europe, with Germans being 1.2 percent Africa (.8 percent for the Dutch) and Poles being 1.8 percent Asian.
“I already explained why these studies were far from perfect. See my previous comments.”
Muh sample size. That doesn’t negate the conclusions.
“I wasn’t talking about Lynn thesis here. Simply pointing out an obvious fact.”
I pointed out an obvious fact that it began in central Italy. What does that have to do with today and IQ differences and economic disparities?
That’s what actual IQ tests show.
Nope. Only subtests like RCPM.
Correlation doesn’t mean causation. You know that. That doesn’t mean there is lower IQ.
I perfectly understand. You don’t. It works both way, you think it only work once (culture causing IQ).
I’ve shown you what, four or five studies?
2 studies on a few hundreds children on subtests and not actual IQ tests.
That doesn’t negate the conclusions.
When there is so much reasons to doubt of the conclusions, you need more than 2 studies on children tested on a subtest and not actual IQ tests.
I pointed out an obvious fact that it began in central Italy. What does that have to do with today and IQ differences and economic disparities?
It has to do with the genetic IQ gap.
“Nope. Only subtests like RCPM.”
And the CAS and other standardized tests with larger ns than 2-300 school children for PISA. Read. The. Papers. I. Link.
Thus, at best, there is only 14 percent of income variance thatcould be attributed to IQ differences. Lynn would have us believe that putative regionalItalian IQ differences could account for a reduction of about 50 per cent in the per capitaincome of the southern Italian regions as compared with the northern regions
No intelligence differences exist. As I’ve sasid, even using his correlations, the variance is extremly low.
“I perfectly understand. You don’t. It works both way, you think it only work once (culture causing IQ).”
No I do not. I understand that genetics and culture are linked. But it’s also a learned behavior. Culture, school quality (environment) and SES all effect IQ. Read. The. papers.
“2 studies on a few hundreds children on subtests and not actual IQ tests.”
I mean overall refuting Lynn. Even then, using a much larger sample of 2000 school children for measures of achievement doesn’t show these ‘gaps’ that Lynn’s data shows using 2-300 children. Now you may say “oh now you’re saying that a few hundred children is not a good sample and now wanting a higher sample”, but if you were to read the papers I have linked, you’d see that he omits or doesn’t have data for certain Italian regions which the INVALSI examinations do.
“When there is so much reasons to doubt of the conclusions, you need more than 2 studies on children tested on a subtest and not actual IQ tests.”
You don’t read anything I provide so you wouldn’t know any of what is extremely wrong with Lynn’s papers.
“It has to do with the genetic IQ gap.”
How large is this gap? Show me papers to support your claim.
Here’s the thing:
You’re just saying there should be a ‘genetic’ difference based on these correlations, when other factors explain them. You keep saying “I FEEL that there should be a gap and these correlations point to it so there is! You only show RCPM and CAS along with showing INVALSI measures with a higher n size that also has regions that Lynn has no PISA data for but you’re still wrong!!”
And the CAS and other standardized tests with larger ns than 2-300 school children for PISA. Read. The. Papers. I. Link.
None of these are IQ tests.
No I do not. I understand that genetics and culture are linked. But it’s also a learned behavior. Culture, school quality (environment) and SES all effect IQ. Read. The. papers.
From what you said, it’s pretty clear that you do.
You’re just saying there should be a ‘genetic’ difference based on these correlations, when other factors explain them. You keep saying “I FEEL that there should be a gap and these correlations point to it so there is! You only show RCPM and CAS along with showing INVALSI measures with a higher n size that also has regions that Lynn has no PISA data for but you’re still wrong!!”
So when PISA show no differences between N. & S.Italy it’s not trash anymore ? C’mon, you are the one relying on your feeling and deciding which test is a valid mesure of intelligence depending on whether it will favour your hypothesis or not.
You really have no idea how hard it is to converse with someone who won’t read papers therefore they don’t know what they’re talking about.
“None of these are IQ tests”
Look guy. Lynn used PISA as a proxy for IQ. The samples he used had 2 to 300 children. When the INVALSI was looked at and converted to IQ, there was no gap. Lynn clearly is wrong. A gap appears when there’s a small sample but with a more robust sample there is none. You literally don’t know this and keep repeating the same shit that would be answered if you were to read what I provide you.
“From what you said, it’s pretty clear that you do”
From now on, I’m literally not going to respond to what I’ve already responded to and what can literally be found in the papers I pink.
Do those variables not affect intelligence? Please enlighten me.
“So when PISA show no differences between N. & S.Italy it’s not trash anymore ? C’mon, you are the one relying on your feeling and deciding which test is a valid mesure of intelligence depending on whether it will favour your hypothesis or not.”
Dude. Read the papers. This is literally all of can tell you because you think I’m using my emotions.
I’ll explain this one last time but after this I will not respond to things you’re just bringing up again and again that I’ve previously responded to.
Lynn says that economic development in the south is due to IQ. However on purer measures of intelligence there is no gap, a small gap or s Italians score higher. He uses PISA samples of 12 year olds that have to 2 to 300 children. More robust samples of the INVALSI examinations show either no gap or slightly higher.
And quite possibly the biggest blunder here: <em<Lynn compares data with children of different age groups across different regions. Yes, great methods!! Lynn is a joke dude. So his point rests on PISA and its small sample size and testing and comparing children that are different ages. Idiotic. And the PISA gap is mysteriously closing. Hmmm…
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289612001080
We claim that the evidence presented by the author is not sufficient to say that the IQ of Southern Italians is lower than the one of Northern Italians; that his analysis does not prove that there is any causal link between what he defines as IQ and any of the variables mentioned; that there is no evidence that the alleged differences in IQ are persistent in time and, therefore, attributable to genetic factors.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289610001121?via%3Dihub
Lol Richard Lynn.
You really have no idea how hard it is to converse with someone who won’t read papers therefore they don’t know what they’re talking about.
I actually did.
Look guy. Lynn used PISA as a proxy for IQ. The samples he used had 2 to 300 children. When the INVALSI was looked at and converted to IQ, there was no gap. Lynn clearly is wrong. A gap appears when there’s a small sample but with a more robust sample there is none. You literally don’t know this and keep repeating the same shit that would be answered if you were to read what I provide you.
I don’t care about Lynn’s data. The INVALSI isn’t an IQ test. You keep repeating the same shit that would be answered if you were able to correctly use your brain.
Dude. Read the papers. This is literally all of can tell you because you think I’m using my emotions.
I’ll explain this one last time but after this I will not respond to things you’re just bringing up again and again that I’ve previously responded to.
Lynn says that economic development in the south is due to IQ. However on purer measures of intelligence there is no gap, a small gap or s Italians score higher. He uses PISA samples of 12 year olds that have to 2 to 300 children. More robust samples of the INVALSI examinations show either no gap or slightly higher.
And quite possibly the biggest blunder here: <em<Lynn compares data with children of different age groups across different regions. Yes, great methods!! Lynn is a joke dude. So his point rests on PISA and its small sample size and testing and comparing children that are different ages. Idiotic. And the PISA gap is mysteriously closing. Hmmm…
You are anwering to arguments I never made. Keep talking about Lynn while I didn’t mentioned him.
“I actually did.”
What did you gather from them?
“The INVALSI isn’t an IQ test. You keep repeating the same shit that would be answered if you were able to correctly use your brain.”
I keep repeating the same shit because you’re not getting it. Low scores are due to SES variables, environment and culture. You’re ‘arguing’ from ‘feelings’ and correlations that southern Italy must have a lower IQ, whereas you’re saying ‘it’s INVALSI, achievement!’ I bring up Lynn because he’s the one who brought this u[ in the first place. Lynn’s ‘IQ’ data supposedly shows ‘genetic’ reasons for a ‘lower IQ’ in south Italians. I’ve shown six trillion times that there is no genetic difference and that non-European admixture is lower in Italy than in the whole rest of Europe, so any so-called ‘genetic differences’ are not the cause for ‘lower IQ’, achievement, or economic development. You’d have seen that if you’d have read the papers as you claimed.
“I don’t care about Lynn’s data.
You are anwering to arguments I never made. Keep talking about Lynn while I didn’t mentioned him.”
So what do you base your assertion of low southern Italian IQ on, feelings? Untrue Lynn correlations? His correlations are wrong, as I’ve shown, so then that means his conclusions from his correlations are wrong as well. But I guess that doesn’t matter. Feeling > facts, right?
So you don’t care about Lynn’s data, what are you basing your assertions on? Feelings?
Cocorico, you are a racist nordicist piece of shit, go tell a south italian that he is genetically inferor you’ll see… and my grand dad is south italian and smart as hell
Anatoly Karlan, PISA is trash to infer intelligence from. I guess all of the extreme fluctuations must be genetic changes? Migration can’t explain all of it then you also have to factor in school quality.
I agree that PISA/SATs/GREs/LSATs are achievement tests, not IQ tests. Nonetheless, as Anatoly implies, PISA is standardized and relies on very large samples, so it sometimes serves as a better IQ proxy than IQ tests themselves, which are given to smaller less representative samples. Further, the Raven progressive IQ test is not nearly as culture reduced as once thought, as scores have increased by 30 points over the 20th century, even though any gains in real intelligence (caused by nutrition) were likely much smaller.
And PISA and other similar tests are heavily predicated on environment, culture, SES, and school quality.
Please read the Italian IQ papers I’ve linked. You’d see that if you did.
Why do you say Flynn effect gains aren’t real for a large part if IQ is still as correlated to life outcomes ?
And why do you always separate nutrition from global health ?
Afrosapiens I’m going to look more into the CAS test. I’m very intrigued. I’m also going to buy a neuroscience book on intelligence that came out last year so it’s very recent. University of Cambridge “Neuroscience and intelligence”.
I think it’s this book I’ll let you know this afternoon.
http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2016/05/what-role-does-neuroscience-play-in-understanding-intelligence/
Do you find it easy to understand the technical concepts of neuroscience ? To me it’s like even the wikipedia page is written in an obscure dialect of English.
It’s obviously outside my area of expertise and I admit that. I’m slowly beginning to understand it slightly. I also have a friend with a degree Inn neuroscience that I can refer to.
It’s just learning new terminology. It also increases vocabulary (reading DOES INCREASE G IN CHILDHOOD) and you’ll be more knowledgeable for it.
I’ll probably look for introductions to neuroscience to get my feet wet.
Have you seen this ?
“There are major advances using neuroimaging to predict IQ scores from structural and functional connections in the brain. Just after I finished writing my book detailing these advances and noting that none were yet successful, a new study found a way to create a brain fingerprint based on imaging brain connections. They reported that these brain fingerprints were unique and stable within a person. Amazingly, they also found these brain fingerprints predicted IQ scores—truly a landmark study. Fortunately, I was able to add it to my book in time. One implication of this kind of research is that intelligence can be measured by brain imaging. Interestingly, a brain image now costs less than an IQ test. If a brain imaging method to assess intelligence also turns out to predict academic success (as it should), an MRI scan might replace the SATs at a much cheaper cost than an SAT prep course (and you can sleep during the MRI).”
http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2016/06/researching-intelligence/
I need to see the study.
Fascinating. I’ll find it later on Sci-hub. Going to order that book when I get paid tomorrow. I really gotta stop buying new books. I’ve bought over 50 in the past year. I also need to subscribe to some journals. Can yoy give me that link you gave me last week for journals?
There’s also a nice amount of the beginning of the book on Google books.
Here’s the site for journal rankings.
http://www.scimagojr.com/journalrank.php
I don’t know about the US but French college libraries are opened to the public at very low cost. Science journal subscriptions are really expensive, I only subscribed to a few ones, the rest I read it or borrow it to the firm I work for.
Yes but the very chapter that mentions neuroimaging is not accessible.
“I need to see this study”
I could be wrong, but I believe this is the study he’s talking about, published at the end of May.
Click to access COBIDAS-Final%20For%20Vote.pdf
But here’s a more interesting one published in August.
Despite the various objective abnormalities that these neuroimaging studies demonstrate, by GOS-P standards the child featured in these analyses has had a good outcome. As previously mentioned testing at age 12 revealed an above average FSIQ of 109. This child was also adequately functioning within a regular public school classroom placement. Given the ROI volume loss and numerous focal lesions, a conundrum emerges as to what significance to give to the abnormalities or should this be discussed in terms of potential compensatory changes and resiliency that have occurred over the 4 years since being injured? From a “systems biology” perspective, living systems do so through adaptation, so what neuroimaging shows should not just be where pathology may reside, but also how the system adapts.
This is one traumatic brain injury.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4977319/
I also remember reading twin studies showing that white matter in the frontal lobes IIRC has a .85 correlation with IQ.
Here’s another good one. Semen quality correlated with intelligence.
Click to access 2009semen.pdf
Here’s another.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2775227/
The study is the first to analyze genetic and environmental factors that affect brain fiber architecture and its genetic linkage with cognitive function. We assessed white matter integrity voxelwise using diffusion tensor imaging at high magnetic field (4 Tesla), in 92 identical and fraternal twins. White matter integrity, quantified using fractional anisotropy (FA), was used to fit structural equation models (SEM) at each point in the brain, generating three-dimensional maps of heritability. We visualized the anatomical profile of correlations between white matter integrity and full-scale, verbal, and performance intelligence quotients (FIQ, VIQ, and PIQ). White matter integrity (FA) was under strong genetic control and was highly heritable in bilateral frontal (a2 = 0.55, p = 0.04, left; a2 = 0.74, p = 0.006, right), bilateral parietal (a2 = 0.85, p < 0.001, left; a2 = 0.84, p < 0.001, right), and left occipital (a2 = 0.76, p = 0.003) lobes, and was correlated with FIQ and PIQ in the cingulum, optic radiations, superior fronto-occipital fasciculus, internal capsule, callosal isthmus, and the corona radiata (p = 0.04 for FIQ and p = 0.01 for PIQ, corrected for multiple comparisons). In a cross-trait mapping approach, common genetic factors mediated the correlation between IQ and white matter integrity, suggesting a common physiological mechanism for both, and common genetic determination. These genetic brain maps reveal heritable aspects of white matter integrity and should expedite the discovery of single-nucleotide polymorphisms affecting fiber connectivity and cognition.
http://www.jneurosci.org/content/29/7/2212.full
This was the perfect opportunity for you to take a stance on the Italian IQ debate. Why didn’t you discuss it?
”The large brain size of Italian American James Gandolfini may have partly caused his great acting talent”
Most In-famous actors are
very intellectually stupid
or
morally dishonest/ cold opportunistic
[ usually both ]
So…
And
most of in-famous actors are not very talented.
Seems many of the greatest actors or treated/considered like that, Meryl Streep por example, tend to have ”strong” personality, factor that is confused with ”great interpretations”. In other words, strong personality-people’s who are naturally melo-dramatic and/or tend to have
– great voice
– great presence
– spirited-minded
are natural actors.
But
If ”to act” is the same than ”mimic, emulate other persona, invariably perfect” so most actors are not very good to do their own profession because most part of the time they are just emulating themselves. Some of the greatest recent interpretation in cinema, for example, Heath Ledger, can be very problematic because significative personal dissociation can produce self-identification traumas as seems happened with this actor.
And remember
head size is not perfectly related with brain size
and
brain size is not perfectly related with IQ
that is not perfectly related with intelligence, ufa!!
Inuits no have produced greater intelligence because too much cold is problematic to over-develop it and i believe quantitative traits/size tend to go before than qualitative traits.
I believe the smartest of actors tend to be ”theater-actors” and/or tend to choice for intellectual movies than popular ones.
All of the major civilizations of antiquity have one major thing in common and it’s not race: they were in more tropical environments compared to the north. The so-called Nordic master race was barbarians while Rome was cultured. The Romans and Greeks thought lowly of the barbarians to the north and many writings attest to this.
Clearly more tropical environments were more conducive to societies we see today and not muh freezing cold temperatures where people get iq 5000 with 100 pound brains.
I said southern temperate regions like China, the Mediterranean, The Middle East, high altitude places in the America and Northern India rather than Tropical like Africa, Brazil, Australia and the Malay Archipelago.
I think the reasons for it are that those places are ideal for agriculture. And it seems like they had a very high density of hunter-gatherers just before the neolithic. Since civilization is a function of the carrying capacity of a given environment, it is logical that civilization first flourished here.
Also, and that’s something many people ignore, most of non-Mediterranean Europe was dense forest before the movement of large scale deforestation in the early middle ages.
”The so-called Nordic master race was barbarians while Rome was cultured. The Romans and Greeks thought lowly of the barbarians to the north and many writings attest to this.”
The problem about your conclusion is that there are some evidence proving partially the nordicist theory, older romans and greeks really were a different people than current italians and greeks.
“The problem about your conclusion is that there are some evidence proving partially the nordicist theory, older romans and greeks really were a different people than current italians and greeks.”
Lol. No there isn’t. Read this. This guy got smashed.
http://www.unz.com/article/what-race-were-the-greeks-and-romans/
I think the reasons for it are that those places are ideal for agriculture. And it seems like they had a very high density of hunter-gatherers just before the neolithic. Since civilization is a function of the carrying capacity of a given environment, it is logical that civilization first flourished here.
True. And it doesn’t invalid the hypothesis that N.Europeans have higher genetic IQ than S.Europeans. Much like the fact that for the lasts centuries Europeans were ahead of East Asians doesn’t mean that Europeans are smarter than Orientals.
Geography play an important role in the development of civilizations, it’s not all about IQ & brain size.
Of course environment matters. Culture does as well. Etc. Etc. Diamond was partly right with his thesis. Not fully.
People seems are fixed with geographic-ethnic idea.
”northern europeans” for example. Seems near to impossible for most humans to live in very cold current Scandinavia during glaciation. Original people who preceed ”northern europeans” indeed come from ”southern areas”. of course, speculative.
fixed = obsessed
Read this.
http://www.unz.com/gnxp/our-magnificent-bastard-race/
“And it doesn’t invalid the hypothesis that N.Europeans have higher genetic IQ than S.Europeans. ”
But things like “genetic IQ” are so disconnected from any reality that it is pointless to take them into consideration. And no one does outside HBD.
But things like “genetic IQ” are so disconnected from any reality that it is pointless to take them into consideration. And no one does outside HBD.
What I call “genetic IQ” is simply the IQ score someone would have if raised in the XXIst century first world with proper education.
Alright, then say ‘current optimal conditions IQ’ or COC-IQ.
Alright, then say ‘current optimal conditions IQ’ or COC-IQ.
“Genetic IQ” is simpler.
This is off topic but do you have white/non-black ancestry ?
I don’t know, I look African, my hair is very kinky, I have endless legs, a cute bubble butt and my torso leans a bit forwards. But I have somewhat slanted eyes, this trait exists in West Africa but it could just as well be a sign of Native American and by extention, Sasquatch ancestry.
Fix your posture.
It looks like you have either thoraic khyphosis or anterior pelvic tilt.
Look up the video “Assess and correct”.
No, I’m normal, I just didn’t put it correctly. I was just describing the common tendency for Africans to have their upper body a bit forwards relative to the lower part. It is very appreciated in modeling. I don’t look like I’m bent over or anything abnormal.
I’ve been told I should model. How would I go about that?
I got in the industry in high school through a friend’s mother who was the director of an agency, she told me that physiques like mine were in high demand and is really should give it a try. Otherwise there are lots of castings in every big city. But you get more chances if you already know the right people. There are lots of opportunities, it is a diverse industry, catwalk models are just the tip of the iceberg.
Before making any step, make sure you have a professional photo book, a professional instagram and get on internet model directories. It is important not to be just good looking, you need to have an expressive face, good body language and an atypical trait like Cara Delevingne’s eyebrows.
A few more tips:
-You need a lot of self control (underwear shoots with hot chicks, unsubtle gay photographers)
-Be prepared to shoot in uncomfortable situations, l have shot in very cold hangars and once with a python on my shoulders
-Modeling is silent acting, you only have your body and face to transmit the message the director wants you to convey.
-Be prepared for epic fun and good money.
And since you’re a trainer, there is no better commercial than being a model trainer.
Oh and I forgot, you need to have a perfect skin, I mean baby skin. Unless you have freckles.
Thanks for the tips. I definitely have the physique when I’m dieting. I’ll definitely look into this.
And I think genetic or first world IQ or whatever is dumb. Because people evolved in different climates and locations so different phenotypes get selection that have that organism survive in that particular environment. So it matters in first world countries but not in terms of ancestral evolution. Every society selects for something. I think Cochran said that. Well first world American-style societies seem to select for obesity, hedonism, no self-awareness of the world around their bubble, etc.
Hmmm. Think about the type of selection that may occur if tensions stay the same way for a while…
“Thanks for the tips. I definitely have the physique when I’m dieting. I’ll definitely look into this.”
You’re welcome. Have you got an idea of what type of modeling you wanna do ?
“Because people evolved in different climates and locations so different phenotypes get selection that have that organism survive in that particular environment. So it matters in first world countries but not in terms of ancestral evolution.”
That’s basically Flynn’s theory about what IQ tests measure, although he doesn’t evoke natural selection. He says IQ only measures skills that are relevant in industrial and post-industrial societies and that are for a large part unnecessary in pre-industrial societies. He also claims that IQ is indirectly taught in schools and through exposure to technology and modern ways of thinking.
Maybe the great difference between us and other-animals is not have a bigger brain, or more convolutions, or more neurons, exactly…
but Where our minds are headed. Again, more ” space ” to think about things that are not directly tied to our survival, the vast majority of other organisms have this *
If reality is not only your navel, then the less instinctively obsessed we are more open to understanding the whole of reality we will be, which other organisms can not because they always understand the world by their instinctive perspectives, they can not have The luxury of thinking about something else if the world they perceive is reduced to their immediate needs. On the other hand, the human being can put himself in other perspectives beyond his own, perhaps a development from the theory of the mind, of projecting himself into other identities beyond himself, human / beings and impersonal.
The other organisms may be able to do this, perhaps the theory of the mind is only a sensory extension, more a “subjective impression” than a reality, that is, we do not project ourselves in the other mind, that would be physically impossible, but we can Infer based on various patterns that are being quickly captured or retrieved, what they are thinking, thinking of doing, etc … I am using translut ..
In this case empathy would be recognition of mutual similarities between you and the being or the other, rather than ” projection ”.
The basis of our reasoning is the simple act of empathy, of projecting ourselves from other perspectives. However you need to ” feel empathy ” before, of course. So by having curiosity + ability to sustain this potential intellectual development from curiosity, we can recognize with varying degrees of efficiency / precision the working patterns of other entities, but also of ourselves. And the instinctive perspective must be separated, when the hunger to live is even stronger than the hunger for self-knowledge, for genuine self-knowledge, when we develop the simple / basal self-recognition of patterns, let us say superficial and fatalistic.
We are intellectophags.
Humans are still strongly centered on their instinctive perspectives [ and always will be], only that our instinctive perspective is larger, with more knowledge/internalized and useful information that is not directly associated with our immediate needs of a naturalistic nature.
Humans have 2 more folds in their cortex compared to long-finned whales. We have 6, they have 4.
You can be physiologically capacited to be smarter and not to be intellectually objective.
Please rewrite that.
Re-interpret you.
Be/born [physiologically] smarter is the same than Act smarter, all the time* It’s causal or correlative*
Sorry, I cannot interpret broken English when it’s that bad.
Yea I agree with you. But humans have two more folds in their cortex compared to long-finned whales.
” But humans have two more folds in their cortex compared to long-finned whales.”
You already told it…
again, even this is true, i’m not disputing, there is this possibility that ”born physiologically capable to be smarter, at priori, but start to act stupid”, intelligence is between this transference, be and authenticate what you are..
remember complexity is not exactly efficiency, 😉
in other words, it’s not brain size, or greater number of neurons that may make you smarter BUT how all of this work together TO produce smarter behavior whatever what.
Right about complexity and efficiency. Brain metabolism matters as well.
“in other words, it’s not brain size, or greater number of neurons that may make you smarter BUT how all of this work together TO produce smarter behavior whatever what.”
For primates overall brain size and not encephalization is the best measure for intelligence. Aka number of neurons in the cortex and PFC.
”For primates overall brain size and not encephalization”
Because encephalization is not a literal thing, palatable, but a ratio between body and brain size.
But AGAIN
it’s not JUST one or other thing mutually separated, it’s all of them BUT working well…
“Because encephalization is not a literal thing, palatable, but a ratio between body and brain size.”
EQ is said to explain between primate differences, but overall brain size best predicts intelligence in primates, not EQ.
And that ratio shows a difference, this difference supposedly shows why humans are cognitively superior to other animals. Overall brain size explains it best.
“it’s not JUST one or other thing mutually separated, it’s all of them BUT working well…”
Need more neurons and high NPD to work well….
”“it’s not JUST one or other thing mutually separated, it’s all of them BUT working well…”
Need more neurons and high NPD to work well….”
You just repeat with other words to say what i said, and seems misunderstood…
need ALL to work well… i mean VERY WELL, and i’m talking about quality and not size/quantity.
”But the big brains and high IQ of Italians is also bad news for HBD because for a long time, HBDers falsely believed Italians to be genetically inferior”
Be less intelligent is not to be genetically inferior in fatalistic way you are saying.
He’s saying that’s what people thought of Italians 100 years ago. Obviously the environment was shitty (I’ve explained numerous times) and iq increased as nutrition and other variables did. And obviously they were wrong. Iirc they said the same about Jews as well.
Hey pp can you tell me how many comments I’ve made on your blog? I’m curious.
”When they first arrived in large numbers in the United States, the tall, thin, pale WASP elite felt the newcomers looked primitive. They were disgusted by their darker more hirsute complexions, and were appalled by their shorter and more muscular physiques.”
Because most of italians who immigrated to the north america were of southern Italy while most of italians who immigrated to the south america namely Brazil had relatively lighter appearance. lighter eyes and many them look germani-sch. I’m descendent from italian immigrant from the Veneto, indeed, most of northern italian who immigrated to the south america came from the Veneto.
“Because most of italians who immigrated to the north america were of southern Italy while most of italians who immigrated to the south america namely Brazil had relatively lighter appearance. lighter eyes and many them look germani-sch. I’m descendent from italian immigrant from the Veneto, indeed, most of northern italian who immigrated to the south america came from the Veneto.”
Italian immigrants in South America are largely from southern Italy. They did the most migration. 80 percent of italians immigrants in the past 150 years came from southern Italy.
In Brazil majority of italian immigrantes came from North of Italy. Argentina seems 50/50 or little more to the north of Italy.
Source?
First you.
Over half of the Italian immigrants came from Northern Italian regions of Veneto, Lombardy, Tuscany and Emilia-Romagna. About 30% emigrated from Veneto.[18] On the other hand, during the 20th century, Central and Southern Italians predominated in Brazil, coming from the regions of Campania, Abruzzo, Molise, Basilicata and Sicily.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Brazilians
Looks like it’s half and half with more coming recently from the south.
PP, was there other bloggers who were there at your first 45 minutes speaking gig at NYC in May 2015 ? How much money did you make of it btw ?
Yes there were other bloggers. I made very little when you deduct travel expenses, but i got to spend time in NYC and watch broadway plays
Who are these bloggers ?
They might not want me to say
Please change the email you register with. It’s getting flagged by moderation because its too common a name
Please change the email you register with. It’s getting flagged by moderation because its too common a name
I changed it, hope it work. I’m not sure to understand, do you mean that my email was too common or that it’s to common to use a name for an email ?
They might not want me to say
If they went there it’s because they wanted more exposure, right ? I don’t get why they wouldn’t want you to share their blogs.
Email too common
Should have less moderation problems now
Because they were humiliated
Because they were humiliated
How ? Were they HBD deniers who you humiliated in a debate ?
Booed off the stage.
Booed off the stage.
Why ? Were they boring or too politically incorrect ?
Booed off the stage.
Why ?
Why were they booed of the stage ?
Because their theories were unpopular with the audience
What were these ?
Theories that threatened the ethnic genetic interests of the audience.
What was the racial composition of the audience ?
I don’t want to say.
Why ?
Dildos says I’m autistic.
That’s cute. I guess now I’ve heard it all from our resident comedian.
Xie also claims that xer is “the most socially intelligent!”, “not out of my intellectual depth here!”, “not a slut!”, “not fat!”, “don’t have clinger on issues!”, “not bipolar!”, “not stupid!” and “not a sperm urinal for truck stop valets!”.
Eventually Dyslexia, xou are going to have to read The Secret, recommended by Oprah Winfrey, and change xour life, from the comfort of your bedroom. $5.99. Visualise yourself as being in your depth, well loved, and respected. Not as the xie-troll.
Although I’m afraid also that this world will lose the laughter we need in these dark times.
“The message of the Secret is really the message I’ve been trying to tell people on my show for 21 years”.
– Oprah Winfrey, 1st black female billionaire.
All young bipolar idiot women in America need to visualise themselves as black talk show billionaires.
The economy would go through the roof.
I can say with an economics degree and many jobs that involved economic knowledge, that there is more empirical backing to The Secret than most mainstream academic economic theories.
I would go further and say more people directly became billionaires reading The Secret from the comfort of their living rooms than reading a mainstream economics textbook.
#Truedat
#Dealwithyourfailings!
#Getrichquick
#Autismfeelsnice
why are you always insulting me? what’s your problem?
“why are you always insulting me?”
Because you give him the reaction he wants.
when you start in big law you can afford me. i charge $10,000 an hour. and i insist on using a condom. and no oral.
also…you have to buy me dinner your town’s most expensive sushi restaurant.
i’ll pay for the plane ticket, the viagra, and the amphetamines.
…dinner at your…
no oral because i don’t want throat cancer.
Eww
That’s enough Internet for today. Bye.
““The message of the Secret is really the message I’ve been trying to tell people on my show for 21 years”.”
Translation:
“Watch more brainwashing garbage.”
Deal with Dysentery!
Q What causes African suffering?
(a) bad unruly environment
(b) unclean water
(c) civil war
(d) Other Africans that cause those phenomena?
Bill Gates is still trying to figure out whether curing people of diseaserisms is gonna stop OH SO MANY suffering.
He can’t figure out – you can get rid of malaria…..
And replace it with rapists!!
People cause diseases in this day and age, not inanimate ‘viruses’.
Think about that statement.
Sailer has an excellent article showing neanderthal higher IQ dna is in all non-black races of man.
The Sub Saharans, are the only race of man that stand out.
I could have told you all that without $40bn in genome stat analysis walking down the street on a cold January afternoon.
Sub Saharans are the only race of man with no neanderthal dna.
How’s zat HBD denail workin out for ya?
https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/sarah-palin.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=1600
Deal With Dildos real mother before she was put up for adoption.
You have to prove that it’s causal. Has this been proven? It is a possibility.
http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1031849&binId=1.1164511&playlistPageNum=1
Listen to his analytical mistakes as someone who is merely too neurotypical to ‘get it’, even though he has a high IQ.
1. He assumes Obama could have ‘reached out more’ to republicans – a good deal of whom have offshore accounts and pictures of them with hookers and children in hotel rooms in jewish safes – to get his way. Strike 1!!!!
2. Laments Syria red line. I.e No land invasion! Strrrikkkkke 2!!!
3. Can’t figure out gun control means ‘taking guns away from soft psychopath blacks’. Can’t work it out. Can’t. Indeed in denial. Although I agree assault rifles and glocks have no place in civil society.
This is why the system is imploding. Even high IQ people can’t analyse because they have Zion won’t give data or is brainwashing them.
All it will take is one Philosopher to expose the Illusion, because the deeper the warping of human narrative experience gets, the clearer it becomes to those outside it.
I think Italy is a very interesting case. That’s why I first brought it up.
I observe Italian football managers are generally the best managers, which takes brains.
I think what kills Italians is their clannishness/corruption more than their intellect problems.
Much like what makes China a forever emerging market is its autism (although Singapore and Hong Kong have done well being western tax shelters).
Or what stultifies Russia – low empathy. Russians are probably the highest IQ gentiles I suspect in deep tendency. If you took away the booze and gave them western nutrition standards instead of the GDP pc @ PPP malaysian standard of living they have now, I expect they top the charts.
Unlike the Russians, the Italians have empathy and ‘humanity’. I think that was the decisive edge.
I’ll go further and say Russia achieved it greatest breakthroughs as a collectivist nation precisely because it forced everyone together. 50 years before Gargarin’s Walk, most of Russia was closer to Mongolian living standards than Prussian.
Communism was an astonishing technical achievement actually now that I think about it. No communism, no space programme….reversion to Mongolia.
I think what kills Italians is their clannishness/corruption more than their intellect problems.
N.Italians aren’t that clannish, only S.Italians.
Much like what makes China a forever emerging market is its autism (although Singapore and Hong Kong have done well being western tax shelters).
Chinese are about as clannish as S.Italians.
I think China looks clannish now under communism, but I recall they were the first civilisation to introduce meritocracy via the Confucian civil service.
And I suspect there are a lot more people of working class background in China’s politburo than the West’s (((Council of Foreign Relations))).
I think China looks clannish now under communism
Can you develop?
Different political system different selective pressures
XIX USA were essentially much more “clannish” than today, of course not super clannish but incomparably more than today or better, wasp-clannish because today USA become jewish-clannish.
But I don’t think China become more clannish with communism even we know all older-comunist style societies look like national-socialist. Maybe communism increase some specific clannish trends among Han race.
this is right or was right until recently.
the PRC equivalent of the SAT was the SOLE determinant of admissions. now it may also include how rich your parents are. corruption.
america’s, and even more canada’s, elite polticians are retards in comparison to the PRC’s.
PP
What is the difference on brain size among southern central and northern italians?? Brachis have bigger brains than doliichos on avg?? I remember a study showing that biggest brain size was found in France and Scandinavia I don’t know where I read it?
PP
What is the difference on brain size among southern central and northern italians??
I doubt such precise data exists that’s reliable.
Average cranial capacities of indigenous populations, sex-combined means. Black: 1450 cc. and over; checkerboard: 1400-1449; crosshatching: 1350-1399; horizontal striping: 1300-1349; diagonal striping: 1250-1299; dots: 1200-1249. From Beals et al., 1984.
Northern Europeans have larger craniums.
Southern Italians are more Mediterranoid than northern Italians who are more alpine = bigger heads and “atkanto Mediterraneans”.
The higher IQ in Europe are found among Germans and Scandinavia. Probably also in France without huge immigration. At least in terms of achievements, behavior and levels of civilization they appear to be better than others.
There is a study that found a avg IQ around 107 among Germans. Remember that many of Lynn compilations no have bigger samples.
Northern Italians are just as southern European as southern Italians.
107 was found in one city.
And French IQ is decreasing and no it’s not due to immigration. The Flynn Effect is beginning to reverse in first world countries.
Simply no
Just to start Venetians are not the same than lombardians as well Emilia Romagna…
You’re crazy cuck!! Extremely contradictory and dishonest. You are not just deny salient differences between northern central and southern Italian, you are saying that they no have any differences. You’re fooling yourself im deep way.
Also deny enormous impact of en masse immigration to France is very dangerous level of genuine mental illness.
Pisa scores out Germany in good position instead 20% of Germans have foreign background, presumably very higher among new generations.
I hate to agree with the queen of Brazil but Northern Italy is similar to France in terms of Gallic and Germanic influences whereas Southern Italy is Italic and more broadly Mediterranean. But more Northern is not better. The North of England is just a bit richer than the South of Italy, but their is hardly a trashier place in Europe.
In France, the North is comparable to the US’s Rust Belt, lots of tall blue eyed blonds there but catastrophic social situation and image. They have the reputation of being alcoholic, consanguine, dumb, illiterate, violent… And everybody in Paris dreams of cities like Nantes, Bordeaux, Toulouse and Montpelier, our Sun Belt.
You feel the necessity to quote me…
The reciprocal is not true.
Less cry ape!
I can read this blog and despise your boring and ultra pedantic “opinions” very easy
Try u thug
It’s good for self esteem
Maybe the trashy genes….
“You’re crazy cuck!! Extremely contradictory and dishonest.”
“Less cry ape!”
Have you noticed you insulted the two persons on this sub-thread.
Do you know civilized ways of dealing with people ?
He called me a “mundane subhuman” on the other thread…
Lol, he’d be more efficient at trying to hurt our feelings if his insults made sense.
“Simply no”
Simply yes.
Though Aut-Righters look at the decline and just assume that it’s due to current immigration.
“You’re crazy cuck!! Extremely contradictory and dishonest. You are not just deny salient differences between northern central and southern Italian, you are saying that they no have any differences.”
Cultural, yes, but not genetic.
Don’t be like dumbass Aut-Righters who says that this shows for all populations. I discussed this one last night with a few of them. They really don’t understand it. But it was interesting:
The study examined DNA methylation — an “annotation” of DNA that alters gene expression without changing the genomic sequence itself — in a group of diverse Latino children. Methylation is one type of “epigenetic mark” that previous research has shown can be either inherited or altered by life experience. The researchers identified several hundred differences in methylation associated with either Mexican or Puerto Rican ethnicity, but discovered that only three-quarters of the epigenetic difference between the two ethnic subgroups could be accounted for by differences in the children’s genetic ancestry. The rest of the epigenetic differences, the authors suggest, may reflect a biological stamp made by the different experiences, practices, and environmental exposures distinct to the two ethnic subgroups.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170110120638.htm
Interpretations? This could only be due to the genetic differences already between Mexicans and PRs so adding the culture would be redundant, right? Because I find it hard to believe that a Puerto Rican raised in Mexico will still act like a PR, though I doubt this is what they’re implying. Gotta read the paper.
“You’re fooling yourself im deep way.”
Northern Italians are cluster with Meds, not with Nords.
“Also deny enormous impact of en masse immigration to France is very dangerous level of genuine mental illness.”
Lol man. Get to reading the what I provided on French IQ and the Flynn Effect.
This increase has occurred throughout western Europe and a number of studies have shown that immigrants from North Africa and south-west Asia typically have an average IQ of around 85 to 90 (Lynn, 2006, Lynn, 2008, Lynn and Vanhanen, 2012 and Rindermann and Thompson, 2014; for a large meta-analysis see te Nijenhuis, de Jong, Evers, & van der Flier, 2004). This conclusion has been confirmed by Kirkegaard (2013) who has shown that in Denmark the number of non-European immigrants increased from approximately 50,000 in 1980 to 400,000 in 2012 and the IQ of non-European immigrants in 18–19 year old military conscripts was 86.3, relative to 100 for indigenous Danes. These immigrants are likely to have had some impact on reducing the average IQ of the populations, but it is doubtful whether the increase in the number of immigrants with lower IQs has been sufficiently great to have had a major effect.
And:
Replacement migration in France involving populations exhibiting lower means of IQ and higher rates of total fertility, such as Algerians, Moroccans, Tunisians and Roma (Čvorić, 2014 and Lynn and Vanhanen, 2012) may be increasing the rate of secular losses at the level of g, consistent with speculations advanced in Dutton and Lynn (2015), however the additional loss in g due to this process is anticipated to be very small. Based on a simulation, Nyborg (2012) estimates that in Denmark, replacement migration may be reducing heritable g by .28 points per decade, which would increase the overall loss in g to 1.51 points per decade ( Woodley of Menie, 2015), this still being only 37.75% of the loss observed in the French cohort.
Also keep in mind that the researchers of these two papers that these quotes are from would like there to be a migration explanation, but:
You say “NO!!!!” Like a dumbass Aut-Righter without even looking into it because you’re thinking with emotions.
“Pisa scores out Germany in good position instead 20% of Germans have foreign background, presumably very higher among new generations.”
Blah blah blah.
“I hate to agree with the queen of Brazil but Northern Italy is similar to France in terms of Gallic and Germanic influences whereas Southern Italy is Italic and more broadly Mediterranean. But more Northern is not better. The North of England is just a bit richer than the South of Italy, but their is hardly a trashier place in Europe.”
Trust me I know. There’s a large French influence (French people are Meds as well, despite what certain people say) in Northern Italy. But North Italians are still Med. And yea, Lynn just took to between-country differences to give more fluff to his North/South cline. \
A Japanese researcher also says the same is seen in Japan; a N/S gradient:
In Table 2, except for infant mortality, all variables correlate significantly with the prefectural latitude. People living in the northern part of Japan are taller, more intelligent, and less crime prone. They divorce less often, have lower fertility.
PP this guy says IQ and income correlate at .25, that true?
Another genetic conclusion. The Jomon is the culprit here. I’ve no idea about the admixture in the south of Japan but I’ll look into it.
And I think the hypothesis of farmers spreading more high IQ alleles is plausible and that this could also explain ful-on nutritional differences between populations, however the best argument I’ve come across (which isn’t even that good) is from the guys at the Alternative Hypothesis. The video got removed (it was garbage, not missing anything) but I went through all of his shitty claims and dumb conclusions.
“East Asians have lower rates of diabesity so I’ll make the leap to say that East Asians and Europeans are ‘less sensitive to carbs’ than other populations!!”
So stupid. Their diet quality is what matters. But people with no knowledge of nutrition and just wanting to prove something look for cherry-picked data (I cited a much better study on the macro breakdown between whites, blacks and ‘Hispanics’).
It really triggers me when people spew bullshit that people then spreading as truth, especially when what people say I directly deal with every day. Ignorant people shouldn’t talk about nutrition if they don’t first have a basic understanding of it.
But yea, that hunter-gatherer/farmer hypothesis is garbage to explain nutritional deficiencies and disease rates. It’s first-world living—diseases of civilization—that cause these differences. I gotta write a post on that I’ll probably do it this weekend.
Idiots who know nothing about nutrition (TAH) shouldn’t talk about it.
Here’s that Japanese study.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289613000949
”Fake civilization is for fake men who sucks your balls even they are heterosexual… I’m extremely polite only with people who deserve it.. Don’t wait you are this people”
And yes sometimes I’m impulsive with people who don’t deserve it. Recently I was really bad with iluminaticat because he told I’m pathological liar.
It was stupid and absolute incorrect observation, I’m the opposite. I lost my head and attack him saying something most people here agree with me but keeps secret.
I really don’t understand what he’s writing here even because many times he’s off topic talking about artificial intelligence.
Even some people must to say for him that most of your posts are not understandable and he need improve it if he want to be understood, a constructive criticism, I was above psychoticist and I act in impulsive way… What you to do all the time here. A impulsive lawyer, thank you white mental slaves, you are magnificent.
If there are three demented people as you here, I say people, u are different, and this three demented people are trash–ing the place I will just show the mirror for them and specially when i have notorious reasons {by no reasonable reason this people start to terrorize oponents}
”Feel with it” at least ba-nal, Don’t said nothing original or relevant and she started to attack me by no rational reason. She think she’s perfect?? No weaknesses? No defects or faults?? Yes as a abomination as you monkey of color she think she’s miss perfect snow fapes. She’s materialistic, aware about it and proud. Subhuman.
But she’s not aware about herself ideally enoug, if she were “paradoxically” speaking she would start to see herself more humble, correctly/ factually humble and proud way, I say correctly..
RR deserve all criticism as you. The most dumbest people here. A self-important trailer metisse who appeared here only few months before and think she’s the queen of this blog, a sociopathic proto-human color of shit with absolute lack of real character and a funny cuck, a monographic goy who never think for himself, he’s always as if he had working in their monography work to take your diploma, a eternal bibliographic references and tortuous factual understanding about things he insist to debate. Both three subhumans = lack of self awareness enough to be like me, sorry nigger.
If since the first time you were polite with me evidently I would reciprocal but not and it’s very interesting because in the moment of angry people tend to say exactly what they think about others.
In the real life “u” despise feel with it because instead “u” are this monument of spiritual diseases “u” still are a snob classicist and virtue-signaling, piece of shit. In the real world u will look badly for RR and RR88 will be reciprocal because he’s a clannish racist who hate nigger as u and even more about your typos because u are a suckcesfull blacks and I know RR just hate that a ignorant, arrogant and aberrant black “man” be socially superior than him.
Recently RR say
“I don’t think afros are more prognatic than euros”
Your avatar photo is showing exactly what he believe lol!!!!
Maybe RR88 is a delayed zombie. Just by now he started to become zombified. At the time!!! 😉
Your verbal illusion ape don’t impress me , even it’s important be very cautious with superficial but prolific thinker as you before to judge your real reasoning skills, decisive ones. Recently a new reader here call me a dumbest commenter. Why?? Just because my English. Just because your English and other superficial stuff maybe many people here think you are fantastically clever. Sorry if I’m this boring guy who destroy the self-deception of people.
You live in France, “your” country, you don’t have a pale idea about your own niche??
Based on this very possible conclusive statement I conclude I’m a cat and you’re a house-dog. I know my territory, I know most of crucial elements that made my territory, I know walk in my territory, I understand my territory in gradual but consistent way, step by step, I’m objective to understand it. U don’t… U have a version of France on your primitive mind.
Just like this clip of Lilly Alien.
What reasonable people see violence and overwhelm* associated with blacks u see white racism. What real reasonable people see a chain of patterns converging to the “white nationalist” conclusions: ” blacks consistently scoring lower in aptitude tests with exceptions, tend to behave badly/euphemism than most of other ethnic racial groups [ in time of ‘peace’ ] ” u see ” environmental factors explain why “some” blacks behave badly and score lower in aptitude tests”.
U first comment directed to me was
“I don’t understand the floppy English of Santoculto” and others praise…
Hbdears have tried popularize the idea that “there are smarter blacks and they are good” … But many if not most of smarter whites and east Asians are not virtually good people so why smarter blacks will be mesmerizingly better?? Most smarter people are very proud by their higher/sized intellects and many them are secretly megalomaniac. Others are explicitly megalomaniacal.
Many smarter blacks in higher positions tend to “become” extremely arrogant and bourgeois. A common pattern many people can take note.
I was joking about you being a pathological liar santo. I am sorry it was taken wrong. I do not think the same of jews as you do. I am not really social a person so I have met very few but I still do not see it. Maybe I am blind or not objective? I do not see how more mass in the frontal lobes would do that, make them liars. Mugabe keeps calling PP a liar. I don’t think PP is a liar. Maybe people think jews are liars because they are ambiguous or just better at language. People can’t understand them so they must be tricking people? I don’t know but I am I tried to tell my brother that the US and Greate Britain were allies not enemies and he hit me because he said I knew what he meant and I said that to annoy him. He is stupid, stupid, stupid. I said Obam does not control the intelligence agencies, even if Obama said something like Britain is the enemy that does not mean the NSA is not working with Scotland yard. He hit me for saying that. That must mean I am a liar and have lots of mass in my frontal lobes. I was stupid for trying to tell him the facts and reason with him. I don’t know?
Anyway I am trying to understand intelligence to make artificial intelligence. PP’s blog is interesting. It helps me understand intelligence better. My new hypothesis for understanding intelligence is the brain as an attention network. the thalamus is important for deciding what to pay attention to. Working memory is an attention network also. The frontal lobes remember if what you are doing works or not. You remember what works and what does not work. The most important things should be paid attention to first. I think that once I understand attention I will understand intelligence. Attention is quality control.
I am currently reading this paper:
General Attention Mechanism for
Artificial Intelligence Systems
Click to access Helgi_Pall_Helgason_PhD_CS_HR.pdf
”I was joking about you being a pathological liar santo.”
when i was joking, most part of the time, i show signs that i’m not saying seriously…
Next time try to do the same, help a lot.
The fact i don’t understand or don’t have will to understand by now what i have wrote here don’t mean you’re not a interesting person/thinker.
” I do not think the same of jews as you do. I am not really social a person so I have met very few but I still do not see it. Maybe I am blind or not objective? I do not see how more mass in the frontal lobes would do that, make them liars.”
Higher verbal intelligence and without a wise filttering is cronically vulnerable to produce, i do not say, pathological liars, but ”rationalizers”. I don’t think most jews are pathological liars, what i said…
true pathological liars lost their capacity to understand the world and start to nurture their self-deceptions at hard way, AND there are ”healthy brlliant liars”, people who are brilliant as story-tellers… this may be the case of many, most jews, namely ashkenazis**
”Mugabe keeps calling PP a liar.”
Dissimulate would be a better definition, by now.
”I don’t think PP is a liar.”
All of us have, was or will be a liar for something. S’he’s a liar TOO.
”Maybe people think jews are liars because they are ambiguous or just better at language.”
Well.
”People can’t understand them so they must be tricking people ”
People understand them very well… so ”they’ (really, THEY) try to convince people that they are just like them and use all things they have in their hands to work in this mega-project of en masse self-deception.
And ”deplorable” ones are even better to understand them, why
think about EMPATHY
Jews act just like ”white nationalists” would act in the near past. Similar minds understand better one each others. Real-believers libs are completely different from their real-aware elites. They are perfect exactly because they are mentally different and in the bad way than their monstrous elites, the same for conservative elites, IF most of liberal elites are indeed conservatives, they are libs only in pub[l]ic.
”I don’t know but I am I tried to tell my brother that the US and Greate Britain were allies not enemies and he hit me because he said I knew what he meant and I said that to annoy him. He is stupid, stupid, stupid. I said Obam does not control the intelligence agencies, even if Obama said something like Britain is the enemy that does not mean the NSA is not working with Scotland yard. He hit me for saying that. That must mean I am a liar and have lots of mass in my frontal lobes. I was stupid for trying to tell him the facts and reason with him. I don’t know?”
I don’t understand your argumentation by now.
”Anyway I am trying to understand intelligence to make artificial intelligence. PP’s blog is interesting. It helps me understand intelligence better.”
Really*
ok.
”My new hypothesis for understanding intelligence is the brain as an attention network. the thalamus is important for deciding what to pay attention to. Working memory is an attention network also. The frontal lobes remember if what you are doing works or not. You remember what works and what does not work. The most important things should be paid attention to first. I think that once I understand attention I will understand intelligence. Attention is quality control.”
Yes, attention can be easily translated to ”perceptiveness” but also objectivity, generally associated with instinctive needs, without it we are just prey waiting for predators.
”…what YOU have wrote”
jeeeeeeee….z
“The most dumbest people here”
Im one person. I’m not dumb though. Look at every comment I write here. Does that sound like something a dumb person would write?
“A self-important trailer metisse”
???
“appeared here only few months before”
Been commenting here for over a year now.
“think she’s the queen of this blog”
???
“sociopathic proto-human color of shit”
Nope.
“never think for himself”
I do every day. You hardly understand English so you wouldn’t know.
” he’s always as if he had working in their monography work to take your diploma, a eternal bibliographic references and tortuous factual understanding about things he insist to debate.”
I understood about half of this. Remember the time I showed better understanding of how plant eating dinosaurs have bigger bodies? I fully understand everything I discuss here.
Take a look at all of my posts here in this thread. Please tell me how I don’t understand them. Especially the one on muscle fibers.
” In the real world u will look badly for RR and RR88 will be reciprocal because he’s a clannish racist who hate nigger as u and even more about your typos because u are a suckcesfull blacks and I know RR just hate that a ignorant, arrogant and aberrant black “man” be socially superior than him”
??? How do you know what I think? I don’t hate people for their race. That’s ignorant.
“Recently RR say
“I don’t think afros are more prognatic than euros”
Your avatar photo is showing exactly what he believe lol!!!!”
Please provide a link.
Rantoculto, please respond to my post next time and keep your idiotic opinions to yourself. Thank you. I come here to debate and discuss things. Not the bullshit you were just talking about.
”Im one person. I’m not dumb though. Look at every comment I write here. Does that sound like something a dumb person would write?”
You’re a JOKE, really.
exactly because i still read what you wrote that i concluded you’re dumb, essentially dumb because you lack the most important thing, self-awareness and i think Cocorico perceived it too…
I don’t say you’re dumb at classical way, but your try of mental gym here is one of the funniest thing this blog have provided.
I’m doing what every people like me must to do…
show a mirror to the mentally inept as you all the time, just to start, the time of the freedom to the stupidity must be finished.
Unfortunately i’m alone here to say for people as you
”you don’t have any interesting and potentially correct thing to say here… adieux, sayonara”
or
”i know most of your statements are not based on facts but on feelings you even know you’re being controlled”
complete fraud.
”The most dumbest PEOPLE here. A self-important trailer metisse who appeared here only few months before and think SHE’s the queen of this blog, a sociopathic proto-human ”color of shit” with absolute lack of real character
and a funny cuck [you eRRor]”
don’t blame me for your own incapacity to understand this simple sentence.
“concluded you’re dumb, essentially dumb because you lack the most important thing, self-awareness and i think Cocorico perceived it too…”
He can’t discuss the data. He can only say hurrr you’re biased. That’s not debating. I’m clearly not dumb. I’m pretty well off for myself. How bout you?
” but your try of mental gym here is one of the funniest thing this blog have provided.”
Can you go more in depth? What’s funny about having serious and on topic conversation? Only a few people here do it.
“Unfortunately i’m alone here to say for people as you”
What does this mean?
“you don’t have any interesting and potentially correct thing to say here… adieux, sayonara””
Lol. Who here actually talks about the topic and doesn’t go off topic? A few people only. I do say correct things. Go through my posts about muscle fibers and tell me what is wrong. Cocorico couldn’t.
“I know most of your statements are not based on facts but on feelings you even know you’re being controlled”
They’re based on facts. Sure feelings. Keep with your assumptions. Assuming motivations is fallacious. Good job.
“don’t blame me for your own incapacity to understand this simple sentence.”
Your posts literally have no structure and are just inane ramblings. And I read English, not whatever language you write in.
Sure feelings meant to be screw feelings.
“And yes sometimes I’m impulsive with people who don’t deserve it. Recently I was really bad with iluminaticat because he told I’m pathological liar.”
Ahah, then this guy talks about blacks having no impulse control. If you were not a pathetic faggot with a pathetic body, you’d be a dangerous serial killer.
^^^ lol
By the 11th century mainland southern Apennine powers were hiring Norman mercenaries, who were descendants of the Vikings; it was the Normans under Roger I who conquered Sicily, taking it away from the Arab Muslims. After taking Apulia and Calabria, Roger occupied Messina with an army of 700 knights. In 1068, Roger I of Sicily and his men defeated the Muslims at Misilmeri but the most crucial battle was the siege of Palermo, which led to Sicily being completely under Norman control by 1091.
The Normans were the people who in the 10th and 11th centuries gave their name to Normandy, a region in France. They were descended from Norse (“Norman” comes from “Norseman”) raiders and pirates from Denmark, Iceland and Norway
The Italians deveoped much of the math Einstein used for General Relativity
I believe that Italian genetic I.Q is highest in Europe without a doubt
There is nothing in Europe that compares to Italy in terms of architecture, art, opera etc.
The problem with the HBD cult is that they don’t accept what their eyes see.
and i agree with philosopher on soccer managers.
Lippi
Sacchi
Trappattoni
Capello (England was the problem not him)
ancelotti
Conte
The list can go on and on .
But the HBD cult doesn’t judge things based on what they see with their own eyes.
Following your “logic”, we could say that European genetic IQ is the highest in the world without a doubt.
“There is nothing in Europe that compares to Italy in terms of architecture, art, opera etc.”
France ? Not in Europe ?
Maybe the “historical IQ” of Italy is really great but Germany France, UK and in less degree Russia surpass Italy since a long time.
Greece have a impressive historical heritage… They are smarter because of it?
Gypsy-Spanish hybrid culture seems more interesting or original than British/brutish culture. So andaluzians score higher in IQ tests than British people??
have the genes that created that ” historical IQ” disappeared ?
Greece is a separate story due to emigration of people out of greece.
there are large greek communities everywhere in the western world.
“Greece is a separate story due to emigration of people out of greece.”
Lynn’s Greek IQ is based off of two studies.
Click to access iq.pdf
Read that Cocorico.
Even greeks today is the same than classical greeks in generic terms of genetics, they are not the same cultural people, period.
”have the genes that created that ” historical IQ” disappeared ?”
Reality talk for itself.
Dienekes shows otherwise.
Batteries, radio, nuclear reactors, the microchip etcetera. Nope. Italians have consistently contributed at the highest level tot he advancement of civilization from ancient times to the modern period.
France is nice but not on the level of Italy.
In fact i would even put parts of spain above France in terms of aesthetics .
Nah, I think we can’t talk. I few images will be worth a thousand words
http://en.hotel-le-versailles.fr/usermedia/photo-635488108014893668-1.jpg?w=1024&h=660&Crop=true
Cocoricooooooo !
France isn’t the most visited country in Europe for no reason. But Italy ranks second in terms of heritage, Spain doesn’t have many significant landmarks (many were built by the Arabs), or at least not more than Germany and Britain and the three are miles below France and italy.
as i said France is nice but not on the same level as Italy.
France without ”u”
”I few images will be worth a thousand words”
France with ”u”
“as i said France is nice but not on the same level as Italy.”
Well, that’s subjective after all. But more people subjectively think France is more worth a visit than Italy.
Have you ever been to either of the two countries ?
And French architecture is not only outstanding for it’s historical value, we also have the most futuristic skyscraper skyline in Europe.
France without your scum…
Alright, come back to me when you can afford a gun and a flight to exterminate all of us. Meanwhile, get your ass destroyed by some big Brazilian Mandingos.
The smartest European people go deep to the industrialization/killer of cultures. Because delayed industrialization southwestern Europe have preserved better their cultures/ cultural heritage and capitalized to the tourism industry. France did it better than anyone even their other industries are also strong.
I love Italians. When I was in Italy, the locals mistook me for Italian all the time. It was either that or Romanian. I guess the difference is that Romanian women have rounder faces. Both have similar pigmentation.
You do look Italian. You look like a Sicilian woman I know.
How do you know what she looks like ?
again, how do you know what she looks like ?
peepee wouldn’t post this before…whyyyyyy? very straaaaange!
$10,000 per hour.
at your biglaw associate job you’ll make about $100 and hour…if you worked only 40 hours a week…
so really you’ll be making $50 per hour. not bad. it is what it is.
you’ll have grey hair at 30.
…an hour….
whatever mofos…
europeans have been killing each other for how long?…by the millions…
and now suddenly they hold hands and sing kumbaya…
1. at genetic level europeans are basically indistinguishable…anecdote…there was an italian at my uni. he was my lab partner on the huge multi-million dollar NMR…what did he look like? despite exclaiming multiple time “mamma mia!”…he looked like a kennedy! not john john! like teddy and jfk! brilliant blue eyes. not too tall though.
2. this is proof that even when people are the same they hate each other and kill each other…dear God!…when they’re not the same…you get santa claus land…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguayan_War
“at genetic level europeans are basically indistinguishable”
lol
This shows that genes mirror geography in Europe. What causes genetic differences? Evolution over time in different geographical locales.
There’s also a nice PCA plot which I can’t find at the moment that shows that each ethny clusters separately.
“2. this is proof that even when people are the same they hate each other and kill each other…dear God!…when they’re not the same…you get santa claus land…”
They aren’t ‘the same’.
Co-ethnics are about 25% more likely to share the statistically average allele than people of different races are, so the Hamiltonian drive to confer benefit on co-ethnics is comparable to the drive to confer benefit on secondary relations (half siblings, grandchildren, etc). In other words, it doesn’t matter that the frequency of altruistic alleles is unaffected by the presence of outsiders, because people have a genetic imperative to assist the genes they share with their co-ethnics either way (and are therefore selected for altruism/ethnic nepotism either way); since they are related to their co-ethnics regardless of context, they are selected for the desire to confer benefit on co-ethnics regardless of context, and they only have a genetic interest in derogating an outgroup if doing so will increase the fitness of the ingroup.
this needs to catch on.
thenceforth latin america will be referred to as “santa claus land”.
I’m paria, it’s not my land.
Your land is
Mars, because you’re not in this planet Bugggy-Ooggy.
no worries peepee. i save all my comments.
gandolf is played by an out english homo.
blink-182 is shit! but they are from so-cal. peepee has no idea how so-cal is the heart and liver of america…nyc and silicon valley are the brain.
super gay!
except one song…
all the small things….
i lived in so-cal.
i know.
it’s the pulse on america’s corpse.
California is finished .
does phil disagree?
rock bands from n america are shit…with one exception!
The Doors
list of best rock bands…
they’re all english…
U2 is irish…
+
from los angeles california…
The Doors
certainly, no doubt, without question, etc…
roger daltrey and jim morrison are the best rock singers.
others don’t even approach.
there’s a “gulf” as steve shoe might say…
and there is NO doubt that the best rock album ever is the very first album from The Doors…
even now…it’s un-believable!
hey! my dad agrees. and he was alive when it came out.
the first Doors album is…
sacred!
empires come and go…
except one…
the roman empire has lasted for 2000+ years….
those dagos are fucking…
still here!
https://www.google.com/search?q=pope+leprosy&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=677&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi7_5qltb7RAhVjxlQKHbeaC0gQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=aHL7up1wH0gQ8M%3A
for italians…
all the other europeans are niggers.
so italy vs europe is like europe vs the rest.
merkel is on her knees…please accept my humanity!
some italians say…fuck you, you fucking barbarian!
A man who has not been in Italy, is always conscious of an inferiority, from his not having seen what it is expected a man should see.
duuuur
italians are proles, retarded extraverted…
you’re obsessed with masculinity…
what happens in santa claus land…
According to some estimates, Paraguay’s pre-war population of 525,000 was reduced to 221,000 of which only 28,000 were men.
No BUGabby cuck,
Brazil is not Paraguay, do you remember*
Yes, Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay destroy Paraguay for ever and ever…
and brazilians still like to do jokes about paraguayans.
1 man for every 10 women…
schuh-wing!
peepee gets off on fooling the s italian RR.
sad.
who topped the third pole first?
likely it was the bi-curious-never-mind george mallory. he tried it. he didn’t like it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mallory
after him it was a kiwi douche, hillary.
mallory hillary…
trump!
but the first to summit the “savage mountain”? the motherfucker of mountains? K2?
bunch of italians.
greatest alpinist ever?
an italian (technically)…with a german name…
trump. tyson…no match!
the biggest motherfucker on the planet is…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Messner
from the mulatto saint….he died at 36…from a white man’s disease…melanoma….
I remember when we used to sit in the government yard in brooklyn
Observing the crookedness as it mingled with the good people we meet
Good friends we had
Good friends we’ve lost along the way
In this great future you can’t forget your past, so dry your tears
I say and to my peeps who passed away
No woman, no cry, no woman no cry, say say say
Hey little sister don’t shed no tears
No woman no cry say say say
I remember when we used to rock in a project yard in jersey
And little georgie would make the firelight
As stolen cars passed through the night
And then we’d hit the corner store for roots, paper, and brew
My drink’s my only remedy
For pain of losing family, but while I’m gone shorty
Everything’s gonna be alright, everything’s gonna be alright
Fugees come to the dance tonight, everything’s gonna be alright
O everything’s gonna be alright
The gun man’s in the house tonight
But everything’s gonna be alright
Oh ah oh ah
No woman, no cry, no woman no cry, say say say
Hey little sister don’t shed no tears
No woman no cry say say say
I remember when we used to sit in a government yard in trench town
The hypocrites as they mingled with the good people we meet
Good friends we had oh good friends we’ve lost
Along the way hey
In this great future
You can’t forget your past so dry your tears I say
And no woman no cry. no woman no cry say say say
Hey, little sister, don’t shed no tears
No woman no cry and to my peeps who passed away
Oh ah oh ah
try harder peepee.
We used to vacation in Italy all the time when I was a whippersnapper.
Psychologist parents following us around like they were Freud, and the magnificence of Rome reduced a FUCKING INK BLOT TEST; dad determined to win a national book award at our psychic expense.
After scoring one in a million level on the SAT and a PhD in art history from Yale, decided I was going to be a hooker.
Expecting mom and dad to freak the fuck out but instead I got their high IQ liberal open mindedness.
“Well Marsha that’s great! Well let’s go out to dinner and celebrate. Your father and I support you no matter what path you choose.”
No wonder my brother committed suicide.
With a ROCK.
It was not until I was 25 that I learned the truth and it is a truth that no one on this blog will learn because no one on this blog except me has an IQ above 150.
It was truth the greatest minds in biology find hopelessly counter-intuitive, until you have the bandwidth to see the big terrifying picture, staring you in the face.
The truth is…
all parents should be arrested, because the truth is…
is…
IS….
Are you ready?
Part of being a parent
.
.
.
.
.
…
end of commented redacted by PP, Jan 13, 2017
I had to redact the end of your comment because it crossed the line. Please post more carefully next time.
PP can you please try to explain what she said? im interessted. pretty please…
Trust me, you don’t want to know
You dont seem to have been phased out by it, please explain it!
Tell me the consequences of knowing the Stuff she said if you are concerned about me.
PP im tougher than what youd think. Share it pronto!
PP, im Still waiting…
Her vulva is killer
PP im still here….. Plz share it!
PP , I’m STILL here…
I do not know what is wrong with my mom (she has the mind of a child) but my dad is crazy. I haven’t seen him since I as 6. He lives like a dirty hobo, took too much acid. I don’t know why my mom had kids with him.
I would feel hurt if I was treated as an experiment. It means they do not treat anything as right or wrong. I guess I learned at church that right and wrong existed. But no one told me. I hated being alone. My mom had the mind of a child.
”will learn because no one on this blog except me has an IQ above 150”
Iqdiot hallucination…
None only you understand why parents should be arrested***
LOL
jeez
less…
Everyone knows, consciously or not…
I like Santo even though he calls me a cheap bitch and mundane subhuman.
He brings an interesting perspective to this blog.
He’s terribly hard to read. I can hardly understand him.
Again, people who really want to understand me can do it, but i know eRRor don’t want anymore try to do it because he don’t want to hear hard facts about himself, just like a kid.
I showed how he misinterpret a simple sentence.
He is disgrace for the real understanding of any matter specially about your ethnic genetic interests.
Seems many times to be ETHNIC you can’t be ETHIC.
What EGIs do I have? I couldn’t care less about people who don’t have a direct effect on my life. I’d rather not use the Rosetta Stone to interpret your comments.
I misinterpreted it because your comments don’t have structure and are just ramblings.
Tell me what I don’t understand. Do I not understand muscle fiber types? Dieting? Weight training? Nutrition? Please tell me what I don’t understand.
No idea what you mean with your last sentence.
“I couldn’t care less about people who don’t have a direct effect on my life.”
lol. Not kind.
It’s more interesting, HIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI
No eRRor,
you’re very stupid.
I already told you, i don’t want waste my time with your higher levels of self-deception, cognitive dissonance and pedantism…
if you don’t want read hard facts, please, don’t waste your time with me.
unfortunately you’re completely absent with self-awareness, you created a self-caricature, it’s bizarre.
I’m not only one who perceive your huge cognitive dissonance.
If it’s hard to read my english, it’s hard for me to read your mind and worst, you’re alone, you’re very common.
All the time i admit my mistakes fundamentally when i perceive them.
You NEVER do this, NEVER, you and many others here.
Explain how I have cognitive dissonance.
“it’s hard for me to read your mind”
ROFL. You can’t read his mind, yet:
“you’re very stupid.”
“unfortunately you’re completely absent with self-awareness”
“i don’t want waste my time with your higher levels of self-deception, cognitive dissonance and pedantism…”
Complete psychological profile in just one comment. Not bad for someone who can’t read minds.
R R
not you
Pumpkin
I’m not going to get into the business of deconstructing someone who is a nice person. All I will say is if it bothers you, get yourself tested.
My presumption is that it doesn’t. Autism is euthanasia for worry/doubt and total blindness to depravity and true evil. People would pay millions for a drug like that.
In fact they pay billions.
Your deconstruction wont offend me philosopher. After blogging on incredibly controversial and bizarre topics for 2.5 years, I’ve developed incredibly thick skin and have been called far worse things than autistic (which I don’t consider an insult, even when it’s intended as one).
I’m not a professional. There is testing available. All I will say is that being autistic is not a bad thing as I often maybe go too far in implying.
It just means when talking about certain phenomenon like politics, history, psychology or topics where you need social intelligence basically, you may be at a distinct disadvantage whereas the vast majority of people will be at a disadvantage doing data analysis or psychometric techniques.
In my home country, about 90% of people are unable to do advanced math. I suspect its the same for the UK, USA and other non-Asian countries.
The world needs both types of people for knowledge generation and diffusion. You’ve done very well on both fronts with this blog.
I’m not a professional. There is testing available. All I will say is that being autistic is not a bad thing as I often maybe go too far in implying.
I understand. Sometimes we have to go too far to get our point across. I’m guilty of the same.
It just means when talking about certain phenomenon like politics, history, psychology or topics where you need social intelligence basically, you may be at a distinct disadvantage
I agree, but how have i misinterpreted those topics in your opinion, if at all?
The world needs both types of people for knowledge generation and diffusion. You’ve done very well on both fronts with this blog.
I appreciate that, but if I’m autistic shouldn’t i have only done well on the second front? 🙂
I’m not a professional. There is testing available. All I will say is that being autistic is not a bad thing as I often maybe go too far in implying.
Do you think an autistic could fool you by pretending to be someone he is not ? Or would you noticed it immediatly ?
“I like Santo even though he calls me a cheap bitch and mundane subhuman.”
Damn, some people deserve to be mistreated.
“He brings an interesting perspective to this blog.”
Yah, he shows us the devastating effects of Zika on the developing brain.
ugly body…
why this CHIMP said this..
I have the same english levels ”your” ”parents”, poor white trash french with leftist virus.
I have some fans here,
and you CONGO**
most people are tired with you,
Congo, how you show up for your college ”friends” and ”parents” *
Do you think this is funny piece of shit*
“Yah, he shows us the devastating effects of Zika on the developing brain.”
Funniest thing I’ve read all week.
”Funniest thing I’ve read all week.”
so your life has been very boring to think this is funny anyway.
You’re a complete retarded, i already told you, don’t waste your precious time as a genius you [believ] are, with me, i want don’t waste my time with you anymore, i hope you help me…
are you depressed santo?
No, why*
you need help?
or
more self-awareness from others?
I understand how you write, it doesn’t bother me.
You would think IQ 66 white nationalist RaceRealist would be siding with Santoculto, but instead he’s siding with the black Afrosapiens
IQ 66 RaceRealist is just so grateful that someone with an IQ above 120 is taking him seriously for the first time in his life that he doesn’t even care that Afro is black.
“You would think IQ 66″
Im pretty successful for IQ 66 huh?
” white nationalist RaceRealist ”
Im not a white nationalist. White nationalism is not feasible. What makes you assume I’m a white nationalist?
” but instead he’s siding with the black Afrosapiens”
Afrosapiens makes a lot of sense.
“IQ 66 RaceRealist is just so grateful that someone with an IQ above 120 is taking him seriously for the first time in his life that he doesn’t even care that Afro is black.”
Sure thing. I judge individuals. Group averages are one thing but I judge people on how they act.
Nice assumptions. Says the prostitute. Keep getting fucked by miles of dick everyday.
Iluminaticat,
i need that eRRor help me in this way
he stop to debate with me because he’s extremely stupid.
he can’t, here or in other sites or blogs he is all the time trying to debate with me and i know how dumb he is, their ”arguments”, their ”point of views”, the same movie, this movie is boring and really depressing.
Naturally, the filthy whore sides with the faggy Empress of Brazil. It just looks like the ultimate perverse alliance.
”IQ 66 RaceRealist is just so grateful that someone with an IQ above 120 is taking him seriously for the first time in his life that he doesn’t even care that Afro is black.”
Exactly, eRRor brain is dissolving!
well, i want stop to see their intellectual agony, i hope you help me eRRor.
I have a contextual english problem, because my portuguese is pretty good, i’m all the time finding ortographic mistakes of other people, i have a huge vocabulary, even all of this is superfluous in the end.
He have a intrinsic problem, born without a efficient brain network,
think about him like that
a tortuous ”eggalitarian” racial realist…
I promisse i never more will ”offend” you RR,
what do you think*
just stop to pay attention to me, it’s valid for everyone here who don’t want a direct confrontation with me, waste of time.
If i’m so dumb, stupid, retarded and with zikkka virus, just stop to pay attention to this ”dead dog”, =(
Your real despise is good for me, believe, 😉
Ape become a king for RR,
but RR hates niggers, as well everyone who are really smarter at least for this particularitet…
RR,
Congozapiens is nigger, do you knew*
”He” (i mean, IT) want your precious Italy become a Niggely…
He’s a crazy monkey…
PP,
what do you think about the illustrious presence of haitian majesty here*
APE
really smart people invent things you’re unfairly using to their own confort,
you must be enslaved or simply be aborted, =)
now only possibility is the enslavement.
amen
stupidly smart people, as you, misunderstand by whatever personal reasons, what must be more easy to be understood.
Your verbal demagogy is not sign of real intelligence.
Half of your artificial intelligence here is in the true your gigantic ego, gullible people here believe is ”intelligence”.
By now your contributions here are STERILE as you should be.
the planet earth thank.
But come back
my proposal is there…
despise me, literal way and debate only among you goys.
People who were polite with me are invited, i will try to be less rude.
“He brings an interesting perspective to this blog.”
the truth always prevail at the end.
“now only possibility is the enslavement.”
Lol, your father would sell you for my Rolex.
”Lol, your father would sell you for my Rolex.”
This is the adopted haitien negro, the guy who was adopted by poor white french good-heart people…
my father is not black.
But he’s Brazilian and Brazilians enslaved and sold their children.
Santo don’t be such a despicable racist. What’s wrong with you?
^^^ and he calls me the racist.
Says the prostitute. Keep getting fucked by miles of dick everyday.
I’ve earned a heck of a lot more than you and Afro ever will, and more honestly too.
AAAAAHAAAAH. Do you know what it takes to be anywhere close to me in terms of wealth ?
“I’ve earned a heck of a lot more than you and Afro ever will, and more honestly too.”
Hard work huh? Good for you. I work hard and make my money honestly. Getting fucked by miles of dick a day is honest work?
Or is being a whore your side job? Working for yourself isn’t honest work now? News to me.
I make enough money to be more than comfortable and I’m actually helping to make the world a better place.
I’m a lawyer (honest profession) she’s a whore (illegal job). She’s about 40, I’m 24. I make €4000 a month,
from my job, €10,000 something from my savings and she thinks she’s richer and more honest than me. Is syphilis making her delusional ?
Repost: And of top of that, my ass is virgin.
(sorry I’m half drunk)
I’m a lawyer (honest profession) she’s a whore (illegal job). She’s about 40, I’m 24. I make €4000 a month,
I take back what I said about you being dishonest.
No one would lie about making so little.
I make enough money
You make 90 K a year. You need at least $250 K a year to live well in Manhattan, and honey, I live very, very well, and on top of that I’ve fucked many of the most powerful people in the World, and have the DNA stains and video tape to prove it.
I hear their secret phone calls.
I look through their private emails.
I search their brief cases when they take a shit.
I am the eyes and ears of the World’s elite.
My IQ is quite literally 100 points higher than yours which explains why you’re telling people how to lose weight and I have the power to swing the Dow by 800 points.
I am superior to you and Afro in every way:
Mentally
Morally
Socially
Economically
Even physically
I’m 6’3″; I could out-box you.
I’m actually helping to make the world a better place.
No you’re not, you’re conning overweight people out of their money by giving them false hope.
I on the other hand am giving people what they really need:
SEX.
Afro, I’d value a private correspondence.
Supply me with a throwaway email if you think it’s worth your time.
“No one would lie about making so little.”
Making €168K a year at 24 is huge in the world of people who don’t sell their ass. It’s only slightly less than the French President’s official salary.
“Supply me with a throwaway email if you think it’s worth your time.”
I’d prefer that we discuss it here if it’s possible. As I will show in my response to the disgusting whore on the sub-thread below, privacy’s paper thin on the internet.
Afro, i decided to moderate your last comment about santo for very obvious reasons
Not fair, he’s an adult. I just summarized information that he voluntarily shared.
I try to protect my commenters from their own mistakes.
Both of you are taking this way too far & it’s not healthy for either of you
Lol, Mugabe. You always have a good word to make me laugh.
And PP, it’s just a game to me. Nothing in this discussion is serious.
Well i must admit, Santo vs Afro made for some of the greatest entertainment in the history of the Internet.
A racist brazilian gay vs a homophobic french black
You two should hash it out on the Jerry springer show
LOL
I’m not that homophobic, I disagree with same sex unions on moral grounds but most of the time I don’t care, except for the fact that effeminates make me really uncomfortable when I deal with them, which I’ve done quite often by gravitating in and around the modelling industry. And my girl still brings home a gay photographer for our seasonal lookbooks.
I’m usually polite with gays but when they throw racist insults on the internet, you understand that I’m easy to trigger and do the same about their perversion.
You know, I think every internet scumbag deserves to be outed in an even more radical manner. It would be funny to create a fake alt-right website for this very purpose.
”Santo don’t be such a despicable racist. What’s wrong with you?”
I’m not, i know the greatest problem about black people is not the color of their skin but what is behind, their hypermasculinity… testosterone is a plague responsible for most if not all of stupid problems.
Most of people you define ”racist” are not trully racist, they just associate physiology with cognition and personality, a kind of physiognomy, and they are predominantly right, the great problem here is not to do this association, the great problem is to generalize.
I have very good black friends and known. I have a great friend, a black woman, with ”lower IQ”, who are extremely good person, very poor, but always with a genuine and frank smile on your face and extremely polite. She love dogs and other non-human animals. By now she is helping two ”street dogs” in your humble residence.
She is the better humankind whatever their race can produce while ”certain” show for us what humankind have the worst.
Why you don’t say the same thing to the afro*
People here who sell their children are disproportionately blacks or with african descent, as usual.
Afro is classicaly a sociopath. He reduce a population of different types of individuals who have feelings, and many them are not racist, they are even one of the least racist people ever, as ”pervertion”.
So he accuse me to be racist… as if i’m the perpretator.
In the end, with or without deviant sexual desires, everyone is life, is a organism, and is in the same titanic. always have a iceberg, poor, rich, gay, hetero, bi, black, white.
This existential perspective, the most objective of all make all of this little things unimportant.
the life is pervertion itself.
Nature is perverted. nothing scape from pervertion, based on this concept or conceptual interpretation, what can happen is, sometimes some groups try to hide their pervertion, but when humans are free they show what they are in their natural state.
Any community have a people such Afro as lawyer, this is the only crucial pervertion, absolutely stupid and unfair a ”man of justice” without real justice in your blood.
Normalcy is someone who follow norms, indeed without some of this exccentric people here, civilization would be impossible, because you can’t expect some thing with real substance coming from a black-nationalist sociologist.
Because the huge propaganda/mental manipulation people see blacks, collectively speaking, as victims, vibrants, sympathetic… Yes this types exist but most of them are not like that, otherwise, they tend to dumb and evil, based on human perspective.
The natural order with a alpha in the top is unnatural for humans.
Higher is the impact of certain species in their ecossystem less the necessity of the strongest in the top because they fight against environment, and they are right to do it, in natural world, based on their lower perceptiveness, they are forced to act like that, they no have choice, or the force or the death.
The greatest jump of the humankind is the capacity to see itself dissociated from ”natural fluidity”. For us, different from most if not all other organisms, the reality is fantastically misterious, why**
because we were gradually stop to act as if everything Made sense.
I like to say that self-consciousness on the human level is as if the universe were aware of itself. We, as elements of universe, or universe itself, looking to the mirror.
I agree many homossexuals are very perverted and directly responsible for transmission of aids and other sexually transmited diseases but this dysfunctional nature of many of them don’t delete the huge dysfunctionality that affect all social spheres of black people.
Many homossexuals are just normal people, mediocres in their intellectual capacities but with a extra-challenge to manage but they no have extra-intelligence to deal with it.
I’m answering the last posts directed to me.
I’m wasting my time here, again.
* isnot a question mark, Imperatriz do Brasil.
troll
I prefer private correspondence, wading through peoples messages doesn’t really suit me very well.
I prefer the immediacy.
Alright, why not. I’m doing nothing shamefull here after all.
How do we proceed ?
Gypsy please get an avatar immediately
>How do we proceed ?
Create and post a throwaway Gmail account, I’ll contact you and we can start a correspondence.
Great avatar Gypsyman!
Merci beaucoup!
How does €4000 a month equal €168K a year?
You realize there are only 12 months in a year, right?
I make an extra €10,000 something a month from my savings, that’s written above you stupid whore.
My job is just a hobby, my true income comes from what I own. This is the very definition of being rich.
Be careful about bragging about your illegal whore job on the internet, you never know how tax agents kill time when they’re off duty.
Mais de rien !
I’m creating the gmail address tonight or tomorrow morning, depending on when I fall asleep. I’ll post it on this thread.
Afro earns nothing per year. He is an AA hire. The office furniture is more useful and has a higher IQ. The guy goes straight in the firm recruitment brochure so partners can prove they bow to Zion appropriately. Another symptom of the malaise in the West. Useless office decor taking places from more deserving people. Except, in the past nepotism was for white morons, now its for cuckold’s kids.
I hate being fucking right, but I knew Marsha was a high end call girl as I deducted in public a few weeks back.
Is anyone going to say how I know so much about people with limited info?
No.
It’s magic.
Dish the dirt Marsha. How right am I about my more salacious theories. Talk in the abstract.
Ok, now the lunatics are colonizing this thread. Let’s wait for JS and we’ll have the full dream team.
>Is anyone going to say how I know so much about people with limited info?
You can assume 2 things about Marsha
1. She is at least reasonably intelligent
2. She works as a call girl as per her admission
When you have sufficient intelligence as a woman in that position it is rational to take advantage of all that this position has to offer monitarily, socially and so on.
Affirmative action is the tribute gentiles must make to their parasite hosts. Put simply, every single thing in your life is a direct result of the stupor Zion has created over the masses.
I would bet in 1960s France, even adopted by the top 1% (which you wouldn’t be) you would be a civil servant in an obscure department in France and the hostility to you would mean vastly different outcomes in academia, career, wealth, social life, friends, relationship life, opportunities etc.
The world I want to bring back is Paris in its prime as we remember from the postcards.
The world you revel in is Paris Kinshasa 2016 where tourists from Asia complain that they wanted to visit Paris, not Kinshasa. You are dimly aware are you not that Paris is not longer a beautiful city due to its immigrant barbarian hordes?
Zion!
Evil defines itself in relation to its adversary. Only Zion could see 80s Paris and think: This must be destroyed. We must put tons of blacks and berbers in here and fuck the shop up. Likewise Zion saw 1950s America and thought: This must be destroyed. Ditto 60s London. Ditto Germany.
“The world I want to bring back is Paris in its prime as we remember from the postcards.”
ROFL. You mean Paris surrounded by slums, her brothels, her drughouses and alcoholics everywhere ?
No, thanks. Wherever you are, stay away from my country and from any sane person.
“Paris is not longer a beautiful city due to its immigrant barbarian hordes? ”
Paris is wonderful, especially if compared to Asian cities or Tel Aviv, the epicenter of “Zion”. Paris is a city, not a postcard and it has always been a city, never a postcard. If you can afford it, you can experience the Paris of your dreams (provided it’s not a +90% white Paris). But the magic is definitely still here, I never stop being fascinated by Paris.
Funnily enough Zion of course, does not apply AA to jewish law firms, private equity firms, jewish media editorial boards and jew harvard. Only to get rid of gentile whites. Once gentile whites are replaced by Mumbungo Mc110IQ, its PARTY TIME.
With my arrows I shoot straight. With my sword I cut deep. And with my pen I break chains
I’ve got to concur with the semantic field of Francophilia in this conversation, both Philosopher and Afro love their idealized Paris; Paris might be one of if not the most enamouring cities on the face of the Earth.
In fact, if we see things from financial perspective, Paris has never been so beautiful, real estate values (both commercial and residential) are stratospheric, futuristic skyscrapers are mushrooming at La Défense, luxury businesses are at a record levels of profitability…
Paris is still sexy, in spite of what we see in the news.
You’re an AA parasite stain on Paris. Of course you would talk your own book. I hardly expect you to admit blacks are stupid, are wildly different from other races or that Paris is a dump today.
Mumbungo makes Paris diverse!! Mumbungo makes Paris rich!!! Mumbungo thanks massa Zion!!! Yessa masssaaa.
Diversity makes beauty to someone that couldn’t stand national homogeneity.
Slums? Go to zee banlieues monsieur Zey are worse than the 60s and even zee police cannot go. Do you recognise your parents in the crowds?
I’m well aware of what Paris looks like Mumbungo McZitface. I have earned more than you at a comparable age, and I did that coming from a much worse background than a dopey cuckold litter, and not even in banking.
Take your pills phil.
How about you book a flight back to New New Haiti and get a job not involving being an AA lamppost for the spineless marketing interns.
Already done, I’ve been on two voluteering missions in Haiti, and I plan to go there when my (future) “half-Zion” children are in their teens.
It looks like you’re having a burst of dementia tonight, that might require hospitalization this time
That’s cute. Kinshasa and Zion sittin in a twee, d-e-f-e-c-a-t-i-n-g.
First came lurve, then PR shoots, then came UN refugee c-o-m-m-i-t-t-e-e.
Seriously though, I’d be interested to see what the reaction in Jerusalem is like.
Dish the dirt Marsha. How right am I about my more salacious theories. Talk in the abstract.
Your views are accurate but exaggerated, kind of like a cartoon. It resembles reality, but the truth is more subtle and nuanced. People do conspire, but most of the time they don’t have to.
What about yourself? You once stated you had an intellectually disabled father, and yet you’re obviously a smart dude.
Isn’t that evidence against IQ being very genetic? And yet you’re a huge HBDer. Ironic.
Mysterious Marsha. A final follow on question:
What would you like the public to know about the elite that we don’t usually know from the candor they give you under the sheets? This can either be positive or negative. It may even be something I have j’accused that most people would not believe.
I’m not jewish.
Do you smoke crack regularly?
If so, how often and do you use sanitary towels?
I get my providence from my mother. And also the more debilitating aspects.
HBD is bullet proof in relation to most aspects of the human condition. Even personality is genetic to a large extent.
The algorithm really cares about who we mate with for a reason. So when Zion starts kicking that tyre, all hell breaks loose.
As I keep saying, Hollywood and tv did more to help Trump with Jessica Jones/Supergirl/Magic Negro McLovin than arguably Wikileaks.
Jeffey Paedoface can’t figure out:
(a) Purchasing Power Parity
(b) US incomes are high because US personal/student leverage levels are high
(c) Most French wealth and income is held OBS in socialised services/healthcare/education and income insurance/pensions.
(d) Les francais work about 33% less hours.
4k a month is about treble that nominal figure by US standards.
But US income dist is skewed very very far to the right, so Afro would be the lord of the slum in the US and a kind of AA hire lamppost in the US with that salary.
Verstanden?
“(a) Purchasing Power Parity”
No, the purchasing power is lower in France. It’s pulled down by real estate costs, high minimum wage, high payroll taxes, high VAT, high energy costs.
“(b) US incomes are high because US personal/student leverage levels are high”
Doesn’t make that big a difference
“(c) Most French wealth and income is held OBS in socialised services/healthcare/education and income insurance/pensions.”
Yes, taxes divert a large part of national income from private wealth to the common good. That’s a good thing.
“(d) Les francais work about 33% less hours.”
Wage laborers only, I mostly organize my schedule how I like. My salary is not calculated on a hourly basis.
“4k a month is about treble that nominal figure by US standards.”
No, It’s worth about the same but it puts me in a higher percentile than in the US. My total income is exceptional however.
“Verstanden?”
Halt die Klappe!
Well, if you wanted to prove Marsha is a fraud, calling her a bad gambler is a bad course. Not everyone has risk tolerance like that. Especially women.
I’d take issue somewhat with Marsha saying Pumpkin is not autistic, and that in fact we are autistic for thinking Pumpkin is autistic – which is a jokey statement.
Marsha mentioned Pumpkin is just comfortable with his femininity.
This isn’t a bad argument per se, but Pumpkin is almost certainly autist lean for reasons other than his feminine personality.
Philosopher
Why do you feel is so autistic about me? I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, I’m just curious what your reasoning specifically is.
“Doesn’t make that big a difference”
Google money multiplier.
Thank you but I’m quite knowledgeable about this. The ECB has done much quantitative easing for almost ten years now and it hasn’t created any wage inflation or price inflation. Student debt is not fueling a new hire wage bubble, and that’s the reason why it’s gonna burst. Students get indebted for degrees that meet no demand in the labor market, they’re not in a position of strength in wage negociations.
Mugabe forgot that we incur more debt. Also, French lawyers probably work 35 hours a week.
“Students get indebted for degrees that meet no demand in the labor market, they’re not in a position of strength in wage negociations.”
Further, they’re so tied to their liabilities that they’re desperate for any kind of job that will help them pay the debt. That’s supposed to pull wages down.
“Also, French lawyers probably work 35 hours a week.”
Lol, no. I don’t count hours, I take the time it takes to do things on time. That’s where it helps to be an insomniac.
“and it seems clear now that QE was always intended as a currency war.”
The ECB hasn’t taken part in that war, it has been very reluctant to follow the USD in its downwards spiral. That’s a Prussian thing.
“so 4,000 x 1.6 = 7,400 USD at the most.”
I’ve found a better way to compare
France’s median annual salary is €21,600, I make 2,2 times that from my job alone.
2,2 times the US’s median salary is $66K a year or $5500 a month (top 19%) costing my boss $8,250 with payroll taxes.
“that sounds plausible, but considering how few french lawyers there are…idk.”
Different country, radically different business culture.
“european stocks are a great bargain for americans now. i’ve bought 6 bank stocks. maybe they’ve peaked. DNB, Svenska, Swed, Nordea, Intesa, Caixa.”
Stay away from Eurozone securities. Nordic countries, ok, Switzerland is always a safe bet and the US is very appealing currently. I’m seeing my banker next week.
“the thing is big law associates work AT LEAST 80 a week.”
I’m pretty sure I come close to that some weeks. All I know is I sleep very little.
You don’t understand the money multiplier. There’s a wiki there.
Its nothing to do with quant easing per se.
All told, Afro’s salary is about 12k USD pm, or 144k p.y which is in line with Big Law in the US, debt/hours/PPP/OBS/regs/income skew adjusted.
He pays higher tax but its gets transformed into OBS ‘assets’. It doesn’t sink into a tar pit of Jew war mongering.
This shouldn’t surprise anyone.
If you use comparative anthropology instead of statistics, and if you take the US median 50k household income at face value you won’t be able to see the median us household is poorer in living standard than the French one and somewhat less so than Zion’s other extraction project – the UK.
Just visit the representative family houses and ask a few questions.
The UK/US suffer for allowing the parasite to feed on it. By deregulating its finance, it basically said: Leverage Buyout the country.
Gentiles are too fucking nice. France benefitted enormously from a clean up operation that happened some time in the middle of the 20th century.
Please, I know the money multiplier very well. But contrary to what you seem to imply, it’s not another “Zion” plot, it is a normal phenomenon in fiduciary systems. And the issue in the Eurozone is that QE policies have not enhanced the money multiplier at all. Lending is only starting to take off for real estate purchases, more than 5 years after the ECB decided to give up on the strong euro for a little time.
Mysterious Marsha. A final follow on question:
What would you like the public to know about the elite that we don’t usually know from the candor they give you under the sheets? This can either be positive or negative. It may even be something I have j’accused that most people would not believe.
Just how incredibly sociopathic they are. Some of the most lionized folks in the World had to kill at least one inconvenient person to get where they are.
And to Bugger Bee who asked why I’m not a billionaire if I can swing the Dow 800 points. Because I’d be dead in a week. Duh.
And no I’m not Bugger Bee or PP. I defend him because he has a heart of gold.
Its’ good ”u” have fear about me…
when CHIMPCONGO’s as ”u” (i mean, IT) come back to have fear about ”white men” you will be again the incompetent but controlled servants…
And exceptionally good black individuals will be separated from trash as you… high functioning criminal beast.
Me ? Fearing you ? Ahah, best joke ever !
Do you remember when I co-authored at Robert Lindsay’s ?
Well, I had access to your IP address. If I only cared about you, I could have used it to do you harm but as you probably understand, you’re insignificant to me.
I might break your ass when I come to Minas Gerais if all of your rambling os in fact disguised seduction.
”you’re insignificant to me.”
We are talking the same language now.
So, why you just start to despise me* huh*
Not one but more than four time you start to challenge me without reason.
really insignificant mean ”i don’t care about this guy, what this guy is saying”
do it.
”I might break your ass when I come to Minas Gerais if all of your rambling os in fact disguised seduction.”
most people have fear to be jailled, this explain why they are very unlikely to commit a crime, i’m not that people, don’t try to do nothing against me and specially If I am near, because if not I will debut with you what I am able to do in cold blood.
You just are showing how rotten you are…
in the end, if I were you I would fear. The only reason not to do bad or better, justice, to whom it deserves, is that I am very lazy for that. But I can stop it, and unlike the foolish movie villains, I will not be wasting time, because I am extremely direct.
Whatcha gon’ do ? Call your mamma ?
Ridiculous. Now that you know I have information about you, you start freaking out and take first degree.
Don’t worry, Belo Horizonte is not on my must-see list in Brazil, but if you can afford a fare to places like Iguaçu, São Paulo, Rio, Bahia, Ilha Grande or Blumenau, you might get the privilege to see me one day.
Would you and Santo just do it already and get it over with.
God, you can cut the sexual tension between you two with a knife.
Now that you know I have information about you, you start freaking out and take first degree.
Oh honey, you don’t have shit on him. An IP number tells you his city and internet provider and that’s it.
“Oh honey, you don’t have shit on him. An IP number tells you his city and internet provider and that’s it.”
There is a lot more you can do with that when you know the right persons.
And of top of that, my ass is virgin.
There is a lot more you can do with that when you know the right persons.
Yeah, if you people who work for his internet provider in Brazil, and even then, the less wealthy parts of Latin America have shifting IPs which bounce from neighbor to neighbor.
Please unmoderate that PP. Santo should have known better before trying to challenge me.
gore vidal claimed he had never bottomed either.
so your side chicks were actually guys?
typical frenchman.
I’ve had proposals by guys, but the simple idea gives me HIV.
Minas Gerais is the height of France, have 800 municipalities and it’s the second populous brazilian states.
This is the advice.
I don’t live in Belo Horizonte.
”I’ve had proposals by guys, but the simple idea gives me HIV.”
Most of aidetic gays are
surprise
BLACKS
20% of american homossexuals will have aids
less than 20% of white homossexual americans;
much less among east asian homossexual americans,
higher but not HALF, among hispanics (and i think if lighter/more european or amerindian hispanics have less chance to take aids than darker/more african-descent hisps).
seems your race makealmost everything worse than most of other human groups
but i really don’t want waste my time with you…
”my ass is virgin”
and**
please, stop to trash this blog with your ego, because intelligence you don’t have, verbal illusion is and always will be useless..
i have a incredible life to live and i don’t want waste my time ”debating” with ”beings” as you…
Why Robert Lindsay stop to ask for your help in their blog*
Well, i know the answer, i already saw him talking bad about you, it’s not important, what is important know is i don’t want waste my time here with you or with your childhood friend RR or any other who are similar to you.
Interestingly he love to praise me. He is recognizing the difference between real intelligence and artificial intelligence, that is required to the parasitic pseudo-jobs to the higher classes, yes, very marxist, 😉
BUT again, i don’t want more…
I hope you stop to act like a child at least here and stay in yours.
Don’t worry, I know well enough about you to give you a lesson whenever you want me to.
I shared all the info you gave here in addition to what I got from Robert Lindsay’s administrator interface. Unfortunately, PP found it was going too far. But you won’t always have a protector, little faggot.
What satisfies me the most is having you revealing your cold blooded criminal nature just by threatening you a little bit. Damn, if only it could always be that easy to get people to show their true nature…
”little faggot.”
you must be ashamed to insist but i’m ”debating” with a child.
”What satisfies me the most is having you revealing your cold blooded criminal nature just by threatening you a little bit”
yes, and in the reality is our disg-race who are.. and you…
you’re classicist, black-supremacist, you hate everyone here,
iluminaticat,
Masha,
Pumpkin Person,
Mugab,
Deal with it,
in other hand, i can be a real friend for everyone except pestilences as ”you”.
indeed a only criminal a savage mind here is yours…
By now i want stop to waste my time with you, really.
…
i will wait your silence…
There is no one that I like or dislike here. There are people that I respect (RR, Mugabe, Deal with it!) others that I don’t respect (you’re among them) and others that I just give no fuck about.
Your respect is superficial and selfish as your soul. fake people is unauthentic, a factory of cognitive dissonance and they ”socialize” like that.
I insist…
i have a life to live,
”adieux”
.
that’s about the hundredth time you said you were stopping wasting time with me.
This blog is full of characters. A whore telling me about myself as if she knows me. People who barely speak English telling me about what I think as if they can read my mind. People who can’t debate things based on data and say oh you’re biased due to your ethnicity. This blog is hilarious.
People who can’t debate things based on data and say oh you’re biased due to your ethnicity.
Why are you so dishonest ? I never based my argument on that, it was a simple observation.
This kind of base comment is really ironic from someone always whining about supposed ad hominem attacks.
My last ”insult” against RR and Afro.
I hope you stop insulting me, and especially trying to argue with me, after all, my English is so bad …
I do not want to continue to destroy the PP commentary session with this circus.
OK*
“Jews act just like ”white nationalists” would act in the near past. Similar minds understand better one each others. Real-believers libs are completely different from their real-aware elites. They are perfect exactly because they are mentally different and in the bad way than their monstrous elites”.
Similar minds understand each other better. Good observation.
But autistic minds do not understand one another. An engineer and his comp sci buddy will think about similar things on the bus home from work, but they wouldn’t be aware of each others ‘animus’ per se.
That is why autist economics, philosophy, history, pol sci etc etc makes the same fundamental error of assuming all human beings are autistic and behave similarly to the author.
Libertarianism is actually optimal and logical if you assume everyone is: rational, rule following, non predatory, non-spiteful, non-jealous of people’s wives/girlfriends, equally ugly, equally intelligent if they work hard enough and equally empathetic.
There are certain people I don’t trust anymore.
It’s not that I can’t see it, I just don’t know what to do about it.
Hating people is not what I do,
but that doesn’t mean I think people will change.
The human soul is a dark place, that bothers me.
I am very insecure.
Would an autist vote for trump?
I did but most sjws voted Hillary.
Both of they feel different to me.
Thats how I knew who to vote for.
I think autistic mind is not naturally liars and take note that most humans lie all the time, to lie is not a exception it’s the rule, they are naturally liars and self-deceptives, seems, cognitive dissonance is extremely heritable among humans. I’m very autistic based on this perspective. Maybe autistics don’t born with this naturally personal cognitive dissonance. But in terms of impersonal cognitive dissonance they are like most of us.
Similar minds understand common similarities they have, but they tend to be better to understand the weaknesses of their different minds.
When I hear people above accuse others of ‘racism’, I fucking groan.
Our world, our economies, our art/culture, our families and our soldiers would all be better off if whites were tribal and could expunge the Necromancer.
Its becoming clear, people are not too stupid to understand my deconstruction of the Illusion, but rather, people are psychologically manipulated not to want to feel like a ‘crazy’ blasphemer during the Inquisition.
Galileo had balls. And Martin Luther. And Spinoza. And so on.
Challenging orthodoxy requires courage, not brains. And courage is what women are more attracted to.
And for the same reason.
This is something I figured out 15 years ago when I asked myself – why do women like bad boys…at a meta level, it is for the Algorithm to free the slaves.
So you’re dressing up a very simple statement (one that is part of your endless shtick and has nothing to do with the subject matter at hand) in an attempt to appear smart?
Your statement should have red;
“People are ‘sheeple’. But those who aren’t sheeple tend to have names like Galileo and get all the pussy”….
1. You have Black ancestry
2. You should be in a mental institution
3. You don’t get “all the pussy”
if schizophrenics weren’t allowed on this blog it would be great.
Thanks John for your expert analysis,
Much appreciated.
Someday you will be an expert.
Your friend,
Phil
Hahaha, everyone is beefing on this blog.
Civilised society is not our evolutionary environment though. Try again.
You can feel the aura of the 80s? No? Its bright. Optimistic. Fairly straightforward. The hues in the movies and music videos of that time. Its kinder. Its starry eyed. It was a better world. This is what Tump refers to when he says ‘great’ again.
30 years of Zion mind control later….
2016. First, the music IQ has dropped as the song relies more on beat than melody, which is harder to compose. Its hook is much weaker.
Second look at the aesthetic – its gloomier. More darker. More sludgy/surly. I’ve lost my aura ability, but I suspect I could feel the rot if my limbic system was still ‘online’.
Finally look at the women – grande has the same ‘greedy’ eyes I see on sluts. Cyndi Lauper is more feminine. I imagine Lauper is more enjoyable to be around.
Its sad that lauper’s world is gone. For now.
I suspect you all have some aura sensory to a degree. Its like instinct.
Zion’s machinations bring us the world of its designs. And human beings should be able to feel the rot even without cognitive capacity.
Emotion is not always wrong.
This is the era I grew up in.
Is it gone?
In my home country, this aura is still here. But the Eye of Zion searches and searches.
Another theory – you can infer IQ, Zion, median real income and obesity levels by the top 10 charts of each country.
What’s greedy about her eyes?
Non photoshopped.
Do you find her attractive?
I do. She’s Sicilian and Abruzesse.
at least she doesn’t have injun eyes.
This woman, Coraima Torres, venezuelan actress, is very very beautiful…
She when she was younger.
Ariana have a neotenous cute face but the format of their cranium don’t appear to be harmonious with your face.
This a example of beautiful neotenous face and Daria Zgoba still have a very greek classical face instead she is ukrainian.
Cute face babies are usually more rounded than thin.
Andrea Corr was a wonder of the world with a similar look.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSIxdmd7ETTGFds4c9ZLinCW8UAFgSjRlPl1Qduvnr6ESbeso-b
Jesus is getting in hawt in this he’h tablishment.
Ariana Grande used to look like this
Andrea looks is what we call a photoshop person.
And Chris Montez is photoshop music.
Its very touching seeing older loyal women fans give him roses in the small bar room gigs he does today. Its amazing how a music career can go into total obscurity like that despite shining so brightly once.
The 60s was a great time for music.
I thought Philosopher liked blondes.
My real pathological liar uncle are obsessed with brunette british, pale skin and dark hair.
“My real pathological liar uncle”
Santo is still insulting people, he really can’t control it.
There is an infestation that I’m afraid operates at a deeper level than public consumption.
An evil that dares not even breath truth for fear of exposure.
Our elite are depraved.
Our light of civilisation is drawing flies.
Our philosophers are silenced.
https://popculturereverie.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/f1-large.jpg?w=500&h=342
Our children live under a spell, an Illusion so to speak.
The savage orc race of man is pedestalised by the Necromancer.
Our politicians live in fear of him.
Scriabin’s music seems to infer this order will be swept away. It will take courage, not brains.
Europe’s most wanted
The most criminal ace of man
And they’re in America too
You’re saying Europe need psychopaths**
oi*
a lot of those “Whites” are Turks and Mexicans…
Still caucasoid.
Most Mexicans are Mestizo.
Metizos something like 60-70% Europeans.
Anyways, whites get arrested and commit crime too.
To clarify, my intent was to show that we can have a mugshot wall without a single black face, and that the philosopher’s picture is really fallacious.
And the few dark caucasians compensate for the many mulattoes and darker faces that would still look foreign in Nigeria or Senegal
http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x3m2ib7?api=postMessage&id=player&syndication=lr:166445&autoplay=1&info=0&logo=0&related=0&social=0&start=308
Surprised nobody in the media has made this link to the recent election.
Alt right vs Zion AA hire
5 mins in
And they say life reflects art!!
Dear God you’re retarded.
Much of that target audience IS BLACK. “Zion” is appeasing OTHER BLACKS with Dwayne Johnson, not forcing him on Whites.
Thanks John,
Your expert analysis is very helpful here.
Your friend,
Phil
I always thought the Rock was somewhat sub-par as a dramatic actor, but I think he may be the most charismatic wrestler in the history of pro wrestling.
As I was scrolling down the page, I couldn’t help but think this blog has become some massive wrestling match.
I actually liked the Rock when I was younger. As an actor he’s god awful. But apparently he is hollywood’s top earning movie star.
I find that another black mark on our current idiocracy age.
Nothing against him. But he’s not particularly interesting as an actor.
Most of his movies are dumb tent-pole movies like the Fast and Furious shoot-em-ups. Never been a big fan of those movies personally, but I don’t see how their existence hurts society.
Always thought that another reason for the Rocks success, other than his charisma, is that he looks like many different races rolled into one. He could pass as Samoan or Hawaiian, a light-skinned African-American, a tall, slightly chinky-eyed Sicilian, or a freakishly tall Mexican (actually, the last one is the least plausible, but still). Thus the Hollywood marketing machine can promote him as a leading man to people all over the world.
Yeah good point. Rock also looks somewhat middle eastern with a beard.
He’s Davos Man’s official wet dream. Multiracial.
I’d put £20 on Rock eventually playing Obama in a biopic.
And it bombing.
Like Will Smith and Muhammed Ali.
And the (((media))) will pretend it was profound.
Black men cannot act.
Denzel cannot act. Freeman cannot act. Cuba Gooding, Djimon Honsou, Hotel Rwanda person.
They just play themselves, the same character, in every fucking movie.
But Forest Whitaker can act.
LOL, Denzel can’t act? That’s absurd…
The other people, I like them depending on the movie.
No, he can’t. He’s the same guy in every movie I’ve seen him in. Think about it.
I don’t even think its too far off his real life personality from interviews I’ve seen.
If you made that comment about Samuel L. Jackson, I’d agree (everytime I see SLJ in a Capital One commercial, I turn. Why do I want someone who sounds angry all the time yelling at me?).
I’m not sure how you can make the statement about Denzel, though. Watch Training Day, Philadelphia, Book of Eli, Glory, and Pelican Brief back-to-back. How are his characters similar in those movies???
I’ve not seen some of those. I’ve seen Bone Collector, Training Day, American Gangster, Unstoppable, the one where he’s a pilot, and that submarine thing. Same fuckin guy.
He seems the same guy in the Magnificent 7 trailer.
Hollywood’s new rule is the blackout Westerns by the way – have you noticed all the most recent Westerns have to have black guys in leading roles?
ISS NOTT VEWWYY HISSSSTORICALL
Although sheer stupidity must go to the jews that put blacks into Downtown Abbey and the one one George IV’s court. Haha, our jew media is totally deranged.
Blacks in Victorian/Medieval dramas is absurd, I agree. Blacks in Westerns is not absurd, though. I did a project about black cowboys in middle school (won an award for it!) There was a bunch of black cowboys and frontiersman, like Bass Reeves, James Beckwourth, Bose Ikard, Nat Love (those are just the ones I can remember).
If anything, blacks were pretty common during the Wild West, if only because the men who were attracted to the region were generally low-status and generally not accepted by mainstream society during those times. So the inclusion of blacks in Westerns is actually historically accurate.