Cro-Magnon man dominated Europe from about 45,000 years ago to 10,000 years ago. Although they are sometimes considered the first Whites, the white gene pool is more complex given the spread of agriculture from the Middle east and actual white skin is thought not to have appeared until 7000 years ago, so Cro-Magnon’s probably looked liked this.
Brain Size suggests an IQ of 92 to 99
Commenter Milo wanted me to estimate their IQ from their brain size and using my line of best fit, which predicts mean genetic IQ (y) from mean genetic brain size (x) in 13 modern races, I can possibly do so.
About 15,000 years ago their cranial capacity was 1450 cc, suggesting an IQ of 92, but by 10,000 years ago, the incredible cognitive demands of surviving ice age Europe had raised their brain sizes to 1518 cc, suggesting an IQ of 99.
Draw-A-Man IQ test suggests an IQ of 75
To validate these IQ estimates, I decided to look at their cave art, with an emphasis on drawings of people, so I could apply Dale Harris’s revision of the beloved Goodenough Draw-A-Man IQ test. The first drawing of a man I found was discovered in South-western France and believed to be 17,000 years old. It’s known as “The Wounded Man”.
The Goodenough Harris Draw-A-Man test has a maximum raw score of 73, but because this drawing depicted the man with the head of a bird, not a human, 13 of the items dealing with features unique to the human head could not be scored, so it ended up with a score of 22/60 which I then prorated to 27/73.
Another mysterious cave painting found in the cavern known as ‘The Sanctuary’ at Trois-Frères, Ariège, France, made around 15,000 years ago is known as “The Sorcerer”.
Unfortunately this too is a man-animal hybrid, and the animal features made some of the items inapplicable, in this case, the six items dealing with clothing (items #29,#55,#56,#57,#58 and #59), but out of the remaining 67 items, the picture scored 49, which I prorated into a score of 53/73.
Averaging the two drawings together, Cro-Magnon man scored 40/73 on the Goodenough-Harris Draw-A-Man test. The smoothed mean and standard deviation for U.S. 15-year-olds (considered adult level for the purpose of this test) is 45.2 and 9.83 respectively, so this equates to an IQ of 92 (U.S. norms) or 90 (U.S. white norms). But because these norms were published in 1963, and norms on this test became inflated at a rate of 3 IQ points per decade (Lynn, 2006) until at least 2006, we must reduce this IQ to 77 on modern white norms.
Correcting for culture bias, Draw-A-Man test suggests an IQ of 95
Because even the Draw-a-man test is culturally biased, we must do our best to adjust for the stone age environment Cro-Magnons lived in. It’s well known that on typical IQ tests, dropping out of school causes IQ scores (though perhaps not real intelligence) to drop by 2 points per missed year, and research on adopted kids shows that each extra year of education in the rearing parent raises a child’s IQ score by 1.17 points. Although such cultural biases fade by adulthood, as scholars Dickens and Flynn brilliantly noted, this is only true within generations. Between generations these environmental effects are permanent.
So considering the average Cro-Magnon had about 13 years less schooling than today’s average white, this would artificially depress his IQ by 26 points. Further, being raised by parents with 12 less years schooling than today’s average white would artificially depress his IQ by 14 points. So these two cultural biases together should artificially depress his IQ by 40 points on a typical IQ test, but because the Draw-A-Man test is only about half as culturally biased as a typical IQ test, we’ll say it’s depressed by only 20 points.
You might ask, why, if the Draw-A-Man test is only half as culturally biased as a typical IQ test, does it show the full 3 point a decade Flynn effect. The answer is because the Flynn effect is not entirely cultural, it’s also biological (nutrition) and Performance IQ tests like Draw-a-man are sensitive to nutrition (which Cro-Mangnons had plenty of).
So adding 20 IQ points to their IQ of 77, to compensate for the test’s cultural bias, raises them to IQ 97.
I realize such corrections are very simplistic, but it seems to give believable results.
the incredible cognitive demands of surviving ice age Europe had raised their brain sizes to 1518 cc, suggesting an IQ of 99.
by which peepee means allen’s rule, but she’s retarded so she forgets.
Allen’s rule predicts that endothermic animals with the same body volume should have different surface areas that will either aid or impede their heat dissipation.
Allen’s retarded rule predicts the whole body would get short and robust. Cro-magnon man was tall and thin like his East African ancestors.
You should educate yourself. Drunk, stupid and short-legged is no way to go through life.
“Drunk, stupid and short-legged is no way to go through life.”
Is two out of three okay?
And what kind of moron thinks it wouldn’t take a TON of intelligence to survive in ice age Europe when you’re going there for the first time. You have to figure out how to hunt large fast animals, invent sewing, build fires, and create incredibly warm clothes and shelter.
I’d like to see you last one day in the Northern Canadian wilderness without modern amenities.
I think the brown bear/polar bear split is an apt comparison here. Intelligence is needed everywhere. Though higher g is needed in other locations climes, this isn’t contested. I’ve seen Andrew Anglin use the polar bear as an example for whites.
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/05/27/polar-bears-inuits-evolution-and-fst/
He’s horribly wrong of course. Would you say the polar bear is more intelligent than the brown bear?
Brown bear evolved in tempered climates and polar of course in colder climates??
lol, you are betraying your own definition of what intelligence is. Cro magnon and other early european humans gained their extra intelligence from the founder effect and massive climate change. Allens’s rule and bergman’s principle helped increase brain size as well. That’s why intelligence is the ability to adapt, it isn’t dependent of a specific environment.. You would not last a day in the tropics without some kind of technology or knowledge.
Even though cro magnon was tall their larger brains made up for this by changing their behavior instead of physical attributes. It may have affected their brain shape being as it is more spherical. Neanderthals were much more cold adapted than cro magnon. Possessing short limbs and very fat bodies. Their more elongated head was due to the proportionately large visual cortex in the back. Your interpretation of allen’s rule is very simplistic, all it state sis that smaller surface are= more heat retention.
”You would not last a day in the tropics without some kind of technology or knowledge.”
Let’s ask for the tribes of hunters and gatherers remaining in the Amazon or in Papua New Guinea, what they think about it …
“Let’s ask for the tribes of hunters and gatherers remaining in the Amazon or in Papua New Guinea, what they think about it …”
Ask Jared Diamond about New Guinea. =^)
Exactly, you’re fooling yourself if you think it’s easy living in a predator/ disease/ parasite ridden environment.
I never said it, i always say ”even almost of environments are very difficult to live, colder areas, just with permanent cold and snow, seems more difficult, while in the tempered areas, because their natural dynamism, seems very appropriate to develop/select for more creativity”.
”Ask Jared Diamond about New Guinea. =^)”
No, i prefer ask for a native tribesman, 😉
That’s basically what i was thinking.
less difficult is not the same than easy, nope.
in the end, i got with my neo-thinking that tempered climate is more critical to increase behavioral complexity than too much cold or hot climates.
Balance is everything. Variation in climate will select for g more than any particular one.
Cro magnon man had an afro
“About 15,000 years ago their cranial capacity was 1450 cc, suggesting an IQ of 92, but by 10,000 years ago, the incredible cognitive demands of surviving ice age Europe had raised their brain sizes to 1518 cc, suggesting an IQ of 99.”
But the most complete cro magnon skull: Cro magnon 1 had a cranial capacity of 1600cc around 32,000 years ago. What source are you getting these numbers from? Just wondering.
I had tried estimating your IQ using a very simplistic method. According to one of the largest studies on brain size and climate: http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth/smith/TimeMach1984.pdf
The average white brain size is 1362 with a SD of 35, the correlation of brain size and IQ is .35 so
238/35
6.8*15
102*.35
35.7+100
= IQ of 135.7
I thought this might be a little high so I tried using the average human IQ and sd you came up with but it was still around 128 I dont know what the SD of human brain size is.
“What source are you getting these numbers from? Just wondering”
Psychologist Richard Lynn.
Like an actual link and study. Still not the entire point though Cro magnon 1 had a bran size of 1600 cc much bigger than the purported claims of pp or rushton so this ice age explanation is complete bullshit. Are they averages or individual skull measurements?
I’m not saying Lynn is wrong; just that PP should cite people’s specific specialties.
It seems that just like with Idaltu, there is not enough data to infer average brain size. I’ll get back to you on this.
Sorry I thought you said rushton not lynn, I just want to know the study so that I can actually see which skull(s) he is using. Even when adjusting for genetic brain size cro magnon’s IQ still comes out to 115. When I used it for Idaltu I got around 93
Melo, from what I can see, it’s only Cro Magnon I. Lieberman has a paper on the evolution of hominid brain size; check it out.
http://www.pnas.org/content/99/3/1134.full
Well cro magnon 1 brain size is 1,600 cc not 1,518 so he can’t be using that particular skull. Cro magnon is not a distinct anatomic classification and is usually a name given to the earliest european humans. So really he needs to define what he means by cro magnon first if he means all premodern europeans then he’l have to average all european cranial mesurements before 10,000 to 20,00 years ago. Or he could just consider anything a apart of the aurignacian culture as being Cro magnon. Really I just want to know what study the numbers are coming from.
meLo, my source for the Cro-Magnon brain sizes were this lecture when he shows the slide showing brain sizes of early Europeans. Eyeballing the graph he shows in the video and averaging men and women together, I did my best to estimate:
Well I guess that’s better than nothing. Cro magnon 1 is a male, so maybe that’s why there was such a big discrepancy, I’m going to try and find the paper he was basing his lecture off, his chart’s timeline didn’t go back far at all. I thought you were underestimating cro magon’s artistic abilities is all.
PP is forgeting that brain size is not enough to estimate ”pre-historic IQ” because human brains were becoming more complex/ ”evolved’, 😉
No, it’s pretty accurate for cro magnon they came well after behavioral/anatomic modernity.
Seems reasonable.
Yes behavioral modernity started in africa around 80,000- 120,000 years ago. That’s when we started making cool art and tools. So cro magnon is basically analogous to a bigger brained, smarter version of modern white people
Bigger and more complex brain**
Cro Magnon would be anti-semite or pro-semite*
Well I dont know. Don’t jews have large quantities of neanderthal dna, maybe that would affect it?
We have bear in mind that we don’t know by now where exactly humans was becoming smarter so this conjectures about the perfect or ideal climate to increase the intelligence via natural selection seems by now [logical] conjectures…
what i know is… many to most of known civilizations appeared in temperate climates and still there are such reminiscent hunter gatherers tribes in cold, tropical and desertic landscapes. Great plain regions like North America also seems not a good place to aglomerate people and build a big city.
In the past the human dependence about water was considerably great.
humans in the ancient past no had a map, everything or almost thing happened with them was very particular. the progression of the human history is also the progress of the human knowledge by global levels and not by particular/parochial levels.
Based on model of ”environment demands shaping behavior via selective pressures” tempered climates or places with great termic variation appear to be more interesting to develop more than a one strategy (proxy for creativity) than in places where the climate varies less and the champion strategies become practically fixed.