Using data from the first 55 unique individuals to take the sequence addition test, a cumulative frequency table was made:
This allowed me to convert raw scores on the test percentile equivalents and these percentiles were then assigned normalized Z scores (the Z scores they would equate to in a perfectly normal curve) relative to the test taking population, not the general population.
Raw
Percentile (%)
Z-Score (relative to the test-taking population NOT the general (U.S.) population
0
1.8
−2.08
1
4.5
−1.69
2
10.9
−1.23
3
20.9
−0.81
4
29.0
−0.55
5
36.0
−0.36
6
44.0
−0.15
7
59.0
+0.23
8
83.0
+0.95
9
96.0
+1.75
10
99.0
+2.33
The next question is how self-selected is the test taking population. On a scale where Americans average IQ 100 (SD = 15), those test takers who reported Wechsler IQs had a mean of 127 (SD = 24) suggesting they are much brighter and much more variable than the general U.S. population. There is no reason to think the test takers who reported Wechsler IQs are brighter than the test takers in general; in fact the latter scored higher on the sequence addition test (mean 5.65 SD = 2.51 vs mean 4.2 SD = 3.19) though given the small sample size of those with self-reported Wechsler scores (n=5) it’s not statistically significant.
Now when Ron Hoeflin normed the Mega Test, he used equipercentile equating, meaning that even though the two tests are imperfectly correlated, he assumed that the percentile distribution of the two tests would perfectly match. So if the highest SAT score among his Mega takers was one in a million, then the highest Mega score among the Mega takers was one in a million, even if they were not the same person.
Hoeflin’s approach makes sense IF one assumes self-selection for taking the Mega Test correlates about as well with Mega scores as it does with SAT scores, however I highly doubt my test correlates about as well with self-selection as the Wechsler does, and the reason is a comprehensive test like the Wechsler is going to be much more reliable and valid than my brief test is, and thus correlate better with most external criteria. So assuming my sample averages +1.8 SD on the Wechsler, I’d expect them to average (0.58)(1.8 SD) = 1.04 on sequence addition. Why 0.58? Because before contamination, that’s the correlation between WAIS-R full-scale IQ and Digit Span (the subtest most similar to sequence addition). Also, if my sample has a Wechsler SD that is 160% the U.S. SD, on this test they should be 160(0.58) = 93% of the U.S. SD.
Armed with these statistics, I transformed the normalized Z scores calculated with reference to the test taking population to Z scores with reference to the U.S. population.
U.S. population Z score = (test taker Z score)(0.93) + 1.04
Raw score on sequence addition
Estimated Z score relative to the U.S. population
0
−0.8944
1
−0.5317
2
−0.1039
3
+0.2867
4
+0.5285
5
+0.7052
6
+0.9005
7
+1.2539
8
+1.9235
9
+2.6675
10
+3.2069
I deliberately did not convert these scores to IQ equivalents because people shouldn’t get the impression that a simple test like this measures overall IQ but if I had, I would have done so by multiplying them by 15 and adding 100.
I Just completed 30 of the power test questions by Ron Hoeflin last night.
So I cannot share any answers on the titan test with Ganzir
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To pill: yes my FSIQ is 110 but my (g) is 130 – if you studied what those are you’d know I am slower but just as capable at geometry as smart people. I use geometry to make my A.I. designs.
Also Marxism is a theory but communism is the application. So if the theory is wrong so to the application will be wrong is what I believe.
By protecting the rights of the individual, that is the only way to stop power from messing things up. In a economy controlled by dictators and not sovereign laws they can take away your stuff and implement lies in the media to keep power. America is the only place free speech is protected. Japan had it but they made it illegal to criticize their government.
Because free speech is not protected in other placed the power structure needs an iron grip to keep the people from killing the dictators. Because we have more freedom in America we do not kill people in power because they do not have absolute authority over us as citizens. Meaning businesses are free to do what they want as much as the people are. A controlled economy as in communism is in fear of the governments doctorial whims as much as the people are. It takes propaganda lies to keep both in line under a dictatorship. The people are not allowed to do business freely or protest.
The irony of it all is that because the people have rights in America capitalism here has less “oppression” than in communism countries.
Like I said to pill and melo who still don’t get it.
If people were rational we’d be singing cumbia, holding hands and making the communist utopia work. People are not rational they are selfish. Selfish people cannot be led by dictatorship because they get jealous of the people who are in charge because the powerful have the means to oppress them. When people have rights though then dictators cannot exist because the people know their rights and no one can oppress them.
Bottom line:
Communism lets the powerful do what they want because in communism it has the wrong idea of human nature.
The dictator is not benevolent or rational to help the people. Only in a government where the rights of the people are held sacred can people be free from oppression of the selfish irrationality of the powerful.
The leaders are not good rational people and neither are the workers because they become corrupted by power as well.
The knowledge that we have rights protects us from the powerful.
Communists think the worker will not be corrupted by power.
Power cannot be checked without people understanding their rights.
There’s no evidence that the general ability index is a better measure of g than the full-scale IQ which includes more subtests. The GAI is a political construct designed to inflate the intelligence of educationally impaired students so they can get a learning disability diagnosis.
My verbal and spatial is as high, near or higher than 130 I believe.
Depression lowers my processing speed and working memory by alot. yet the other two seem unaffected as much?
It is just a fact that the discrepancy between any two index of 20 or more points nullifies a test result validity. And my discrepancies are higher than 40 points.
Last I took the WAIS-4 was in 2020 and I would say I am not as bad as I used to be. I was very dissociated at that time in my life.
These test are, after all, given to people whom have mental illness and other problems not normal people generally.
Puppy's Tutor - Sam Friedman Berkovitz-bergsaid:
Exactly. Puppy is correct. Nobody with a 130 IQ confuses Marxism and communism and spends 10 different comments explaining why communism is stupid to a person that never endorsed communism. Dumbass.
“I deliberately did not convert these scores to IQ equivalents because people shouldn’t get the impression that a simple test like this measures overall IQ”
Of course its not the final say so.
If you are making an adult intelligence test you need the g loadings.
That is the coefficent between all subtests in a matrix.
Then you can do multiple regression adding up all scores on a single person.
How you get this to be applicable to the general population norms I don’t know as you say the sample is self selected.
What you’re more or less describing is a g factor score. This was tried with the Wechsler but ultimately dismissed as a huge waste of time because with 11 diverse substantially g loaded subtests, the Wechsler full-scale IQ is already a near-perfect measure of g, correlating about 0.95 with g factor scores derived from it iirc.
If all your tests are put together in a matrix then that needs to be the same as for body weight height and brain size.
(The R^2 value is 29.49%. This tells us that 29.49% of the variation in intelligence, as quantified by PIQ, is reduced by taking into account brain size, height, and weight.)
if your tests are predicting each other then they do so by the same method as those would accounting for an amount of variance of all intelligence as with the above, otherwise where does the correlation of head size and IQ come from?
How do you combine all the tests to get a single score?
Yeah I know, we’ve discussed multiple regression on this blog many times. But simply adding up your score on 10 subtests will give you a result so g loaded that multiple regression is superfluous.
How do you combine all the tests to get a single score?
On tests like the Wechsler each subtest is converted to a scaled score with a mean of 10 and an SD of 3. About 10 or so of these subtests are then totaled and the sum is typically found to have a mean of 100 with an SD around 21. So a sum of 100 = IQ 100 and a sum of 121 (+1 SD) = IQ 115, a sum of 142 (+2 SD) = IQ 130 etc.
Puppy's Tutor - Sam Friedman Berkovitz-bergsaid:
I use geometry to make my A.I. designs.
Doesnt make any sense again. You need a hard reboot.
Because Mugabe resigned in disgust at the lack of moderation now Ill never explain why Buffet is a quant and not an accountant. ANyway, Buffet announced retirement yesterday.
So like brubo said and pp said: this tests puts my working memory at 100
still pill is wrong about everything
he is motivated to distort the truth against those he dislikes
his thinking is distorted and mine isn’t regardless of IQ
wm is not an overall IQ score. my other abilities are high
he knows nothing about computers or a.i. – I’ve been thinking about it over 20 years.
His thinking about economics also sucks
economics stays the same with or without violent revolution
people are not rational as he needs them to be to change capitalism into collectivism (pills distorted thinking makes it possible in his mind)
and he trolls pumpkin about Oprah being a criminal just to make him angry (Oprah being black and pill hating blacks motivates him to do so as an obvious lie, “She is not IQ 85 as pill keeps saying she is”)
I Just completed 30 of the power test questions by Ron Hoeflin last night.
So I cannot share any answers on the titan test with Ganzir
–
To pill: yes my FSIQ is 110 but my (g) is 130 – if you studied what those are you’d know I am slower but just as capable at geometry as smart people. I use geometry to make my A.I. designs.
Also Marxism is a theory but communism is the application. So if the theory is wrong so to the application will be wrong is what I believe.
By protecting the rights of the individual, that is the only way to stop power from messing things up. In a economy controlled by dictators and not sovereign laws they can take away your stuff and implement lies in the media to keep power. America is the only place free speech is protected. Japan had it but they made it illegal to criticize their government.
Because free speech is not protected in other placed the power structure needs an iron grip to keep the people from killing the dictators. Because we have more freedom in America we do not kill people in power because they do not have absolute authority over us as citizens. Meaning businesses are free to do what they want as much as the people are. A controlled economy as in communism is in fear of the governments doctorial whims as much as the people are. It takes propaganda lies to keep both in line under a dictatorship. The people are not allowed to do business freely or protest.
The irony of it all is that because the people have rights in America capitalism here has less “oppression” than in communism countries.
Like I said to pill and melo who still don’t get it.
If people were rational we’d be singing cumbia, holding hands and making the communist utopia work. People are not rational they are selfish. Selfish people cannot be led by dictatorship because they get jealous of the people who are in charge because the powerful have the means to oppress them. When people have rights though then dictators cannot exist because the people know their rights and no one can oppress them.
Bottom line:
Communism lets the powerful do what they want because in communism it has the wrong idea of human nature.
The dictator is not benevolent or rational to help the people. Only in a government where the rights of the people are held sacred can people be free from oppression of the selfish irrationality of the powerful.
The leaders are not good rational people and neither are the workers because they become corrupted by power as well.
The knowledge that we have rights protects us from the powerful.
Communists think the worker will not be corrupted by power.
Power cannot be checked without people understanding their rights.
^kumbaya not cumbia
yes my FSIQ is 110 but my (g) is 130
There’s no evidence that the general ability index is a better measure of g than the full-scale IQ which includes more subtests. The GAI is a political construct designed to inflate the intelligence of educationally impaired students so they can get a learning disability diagnosis.
Even if that is true.
My verbal and spatial is as high, near or higher than 130 I believe.
Depression lowers my processing speed and working memory by alot. yet the other two seem unaffected as much?
It is just a fact that the discrepancy between any two index of 20 or more points nullifies a test result validity. And my discrepancies are higher than 40 points.
Last I took the WAIS-4 was in 2020 and I would say I am not as bad as I used to be. I was very dissociated at that time in my life.
These test are, after all, given to people whom have mental illness and other problems not normal people generally.
Exactly. Puppy is correct. Nobody with a 130 IQ confuses Marxism and communism and spends 10 different comments explaining why communism is stupid to a person that never endorsed communism. Dumbass.
you pill are the one who thinks people are rational not me
you are the autistic libertarian
violent revolution is stupid, which pill promotes
To pill:
Your view on economics doesn’t work
if it did, people would be rational
stop saying I am the one who believes what you actually believe.
again violence is stupid and doesn’t change anything about the way capitalism functions
“I deliberately did not convert these scores to IQ equivalents because people shouldn’t get the impression that a simple test like this measures overall IQ”
Of course its not the final say so.
If you are making an adult intelligence test you need the g loadings.
That is the coefficent between all subtests in a matrix.
Then you can do multiple regression adding up all scores on a single person.
How you get this to be applicable to the general population norms I don’t know as you say the sample is self selected.
What you’re more or less describing is a g factor score. This was tried with the Wechsler but ultimately dismissed as a huge waste of time because with 11 diverse substantially g loaded subtests, the Wechsler full-scale IQ is already a near-perfect measure of g, correlating about 0.95 with g factor scores derived from it iirc.
No, I am talking about this:
https://online.stat.psu.edu/stat501/book/export/html/919
If all your tests are put together in a matrix then that needs to be the same as for body weight height and brain size.
(The R^2 value is 29.49%. This tells us that 29.49% of the variation in intelligence, as quantified by PIQ, is reduced by taking into account brain size, height, and weight.)
if your tests are predicting each other then they do so by the same method as those would accounting for an amount of variance of all intelligence as with the above, otherwise where does the correlation of head size and IQ come from?
How do you combine all the tests to get a single score?
I am sure I took enough to get a FSIQ from them.
No, I am talking about this:
Yeah I know, we’ve discussed multiple regression on this blog many times. But simply adding up your score on 10 subtests will give you a result so g loaded that multiple regression is superfluous.
How do you combine all the tests to get a single score?
On tests like the Wechsler each subtest is converted to a scaled score with a mean of 10 and an SD of 3. About 10 or so of these subtests are then totaled and the sum is typically found to have a mean of 100 with an SD around 21. So a sum of 100 = IQ 100 and a sum of 121 (+1 SD) = IQ 115, a sum of 142 (+2 SD) = IQ 130 etc.
I use geometry to make my A.I. designs.
Doesnt make any sense again. You need a hard reboot.
“Doesnt make any sense”
shows you are ignorant about a.i. pill
Puppy what is the ‘gold standard’ IQ test. And you can include SAT, PISA, and non ‘iq tests’.
As in. What number best describes a persons intelligence in terms of IQ from all the various tests you ever saw.
The Wechsler
Because Mugabe resigned in disgust at the lack of moderation now Ill never explain why Buffet is a quant and not an accountant. ANyway, Buffet announced retirement yesterday.
so just to do mental counting exercise :
90 : 1
100: 2
110: 5
120: 7
130: 8
140: 9
148:10 (being more precise for this one who deserves it lol)
Wiow theyre realeasing all the epstein files. Interested to see if Mossad, Oprah or Harvey Weinstein is in there.
Oprah’s only in them in the context of who should we give an interview to? Maybe Oprah?
Lots of random people are in there just because they were powerful influencers he could get to. (Marvin Minsky and a.i. at MIT)
That doesn’t mean they were criminals, some not all
pill is trolling that Oprah is in there as a criminal if she is in there at all
Pumpkin, would this subtest correlate more to the PSI or WMI on the WAIS?
wMI
So like brubo said and pp said: this tests puts my working memory at 100
still pill is wrong about everything
he is motivated to distort the truth against those he dislikes
his thinking is distorted and mine isn’t regardless of IQ
wm is not an overall IQ score. my other abilities are high
he knows nothing about computers or a.i. – I’ve been thinking about it over 20 years.
His thinking about economics also sucks
economics stays the same with or without violent revolution
people are not rational as he needs them to be to change capitalism into collectivism (pills distorted thinking makes it possible in his mind)
and he trolls pumpkin about Oprah being a criminal just to make him angry (Oprah being black and pill hating blacks motivates him to do so as an obvious lie, “She is not IQ 85 as pill keeps saying she is”)
pill either need to shut up or get real
he is not moral at all as he says he is
stop distorting thing!
Stop feeding the “troll” so much. Brief replies are fine