Using genetic data from Lee et al (2018), Davide Piffer has calculated polygenic scores for education/cognition for various populations around the World. Although these scores have very modest predictive power at the individual level, at the group level they correlate extremely well with IQ.
Below is a chart that reports these scores for 12 different “races” using two different polygenic scores (MTAG & PGS GWAS sig). In some cases the scores had to be inferred. For example the datasets did not have direct measures for Arctic people but because there was MTAG data on Mongolians and East Asians and because Mongolians are a hybrid of Arctic people and East Asians, their scores could be deduced.
The polygenic scores were converted to IQ equivalents by assigning the average European polygenic score an IQ of 99 (consistent with their psychometric scores) and assigning the average Bantu polygenic score an IQ of 80 (based on Richard Lynn’s 2006 estimate of how African Americans would average if they had no white admixture). From these two races, the IQs of all other races could be derived through linear extrapolation.
The most striking thing about the data is the clear correlation between genetic IQ and climate. All five of the top ranked races have light skin or lived in a cold climate during the ice age. Meanwhile the bottom four all have “Negroid” morphology, with the bottom three having never left sub-Saharan Africa. It is interesting that the bottom three never independently invented agriculture and the bottom two never made the neolithic transition at all, consistent with Richard Lynn’s theory that it was not until the last wurm glaciation about 20,000 years ago (which sub-Saharans did not endure) that humans became intelligent enough to take advantage of the wild grasses. By sadly killing everyone who was too dull to make fire, shelter and warm clothing, the last wurm glaciation probably raised North Eurasian IQ to near 90, and then only those with IQs of 93+ would make the leap to civilization. The exceptions are the Finns and the Arctic people who more or less reached triple digit IQ despite remaining essentially cavemen.
| Population | Average polygenic MTAG Raw score calculated by Davide Piffer derived from Lee et al. (2018) | PGS (GWAS sig) | Genetic IQ derived from polygenic MTAG | Genetic IQ derived from PGS (GWAS sig) | Average of the one or two genetic IQs |
Ashkenazi ![]() | 50.038 | 106 | 106 | ||
East Asians![]() | 0.505 | 49.75 | 99 | 104 | 102 |
Finnish![]() | 49.456 | 101 | 101 | ||
Europeans![]() | 0.505 | 49.167 | 99 | 99 | 99 |
Arctic people![]() | 0.505 (estimated from the scores of Mongolians & East Asians) | 99 | 99 | ||
Southeast Asians![]() | 0.501 | 93 | 93 | ||
South Asians & North Africans![]() | 0.501 | 93 | 93 | ||
Native Americans![]() | 0.494 | 48.6 (I subtracted 55% white & 15% black admixture since sample was Hispanic) | 83 | 94 | 89 |
Papuans![]() | 0.498 | 89 | 89 | ||
Bantu![]() | 0.492 | 46.83(I subtracted 25% white admixture since sample was Black Americans) | 80 | 80 | 80 |
pygmies![]() | 0.484 | 68 | 68 | ||
Bushmen![]() | 0.482 | 65 | 65 |
Note the PGS(Gwas sig) data is from Table 5 from the paper Evidence for Recent Polygenic Selection on Educational Attainment and Intelligence Inferred from Gwas Hits: A Replication of Previous Findings Using Recent Data. The MTAG raw data Piffer used is here:













Carney is a Catholic, and was named the most influential Catholic in Britain by The Tablet in 2015
peepee: you mean WYTRASH n shit!
yeah wytrash is real. see wytrash is the only trash that can be recycled. cans pieces of paper etc.
you wouldnt get it because youre a cracker!
i mean hating on all other religions is something the roman church used to do way worse than islam ever has.
it would kill you straight-up for heresy.
but the roman church changed.
islam is the world’s second biggest religion. it has enormous variety. so maybe some muslims don’t hate on all othe religions.
specifically i greatly admire islamic philosophy and sufism.
I dont hate you Mug….I DESPISE YOU! i called pest control on you the other day.
im smarter and more creative than yo ol n broke ass boi.
now go back to being a nice peckerwood and pick my cotton fo me boi.
except yesterday you said i had a higher IQ than you. and you’ve also said i’m a “very wise man”.
sad!
life is a stage. when you switch roles i dont think youre doing yourself justice.
youd be wiser if you just behaved acted and were yourself!
youre a blessing in disguise for me sometimes.
^^^chat gpt et al are impressive^^^
Mug you are worse than AI. you are a subhuman. you area piece of shit lying in a toilet. you are scum. of the Earf.
i dont know why Pumpkin likes you. probably feels bad for you. very delusional on his part seeing as though youre trying to be a wolf but actually a sheep who acts like a bitch on meth.
coward. say it to my face. i will destroy you. fool.
Loaded you’re so right about Mug. He accused a black woman of looking like a gorilla with a wig and then because she puts in effort to look pretty, he calls that EVIL DISHONESTY. Who the hell would think something like that evil and yet he is the first one to call others evil? Such an UGLY ARROGANT RACIST piece of shit.
Yes exactly. Mug has serious issues with women and is very xenophobic. he has reached a threshold of having self esteem issues so he puts on a front and tries to act tough when he is wounded inside.
he does this by stating very deviant and abusive things to other people and telling them what they dont want to hear because he is insecure himself.
i should know i used to do this. we all do this when we are young immature and know no better.
but his sadism and vengeful fantasies are apparent at the age of fifty plus so theres obviously something wrong here.
i would say its time to let him go Pumpkin. he needs some very serious help. no other functioning individual would allow for someone to display that much hate ignorance and destruction as you do for Mug.
i mean at the end of the day it is your blog Pumpkin but my advice if it carries weight is to give Mug a taste of his medicine or at least ban him in good faith!
Pumpkin if you have no contrary viewpoint to the origins of autism and how it affects people why would you ask me to come up with one? i dont disagree with the status quo observation on it so why would i wanna do something like that is what im saying.
cmon feed me Pumpkin feed me!!!!
WTF YOU BANNED EVERY SINGLE COMMENT?!!!!
we just needed a break from you.
Whos we? The JIDF?
LOL
^^^PEEPEE ADMITTING SHE’S A JIDF FALASHA^^^
SAD!
Mug admitting he’s insane
Puppy did it ever occur to you that a person would be intelligent and brave to speak the truth, even if it destroyed his existence.
Gaillileo.
Galilileo.
“And yet…It moves”
Yes and in fact that’s one of the ironies of IQ. The people who are most able to adapt the situation to their advantage are the least likely to do in a TANGIBLE way because their goals are more abstract. But Kanye’s not in that category. He’s just nuts.
because telling the truth is cray cray.
yet again peepee admits she’s a satanist.
No you’re a satanist for not realizing all forms of racism are wrong (including antisemitism).
yes i suffer from being too abstract. yes Kanye is an asshole. so youre right Pumpkin.
absolutely right. i know you guys dont value what i have to say but i hope tis one time maybe you do Pumpkin?
peepee is EXACTLY right!
STILL WAITING FOR PEEPEE TO IDENTIFY THE RACE OF HER FATHER.
EVERY COMMENTER HAS.
PEEPEE HASN’T.
PEEPEE IS AN HBDer.
those “truths” were based on mathematical calculations and measurements. none of your truths are decisively true at all, Pill. there are lots of times you just go off judgment and thats not really how truth is formed unless you critically think deeply enough about it which I honestly dont think you do.
how much time are you actually allotting to thinking about these things? probably not a lot. you think your subconscious is always right and its not.
your conscious mind and thoughts are a lot more important!
this is where the pill personality is a christian in spite of itself.
this way of thinking is totally alien to all outside christendom.
just like “the customer is always right” is totally alien.
even to chinapipo.
here’s a yuge IQ test question for pill and peepee.
why was jesus executed?
Because charismatic righteous people are a threat to greedy opportunists because they make them look bad.
peepee is EXACTLY right!
STILL WAITING FOR PEEPEE TO IDENTIFY THE RACE OF HER FATHER.
EVERY COMMENTER HAS.
PEEPEE HASN’T.
PEEPEE IS AN HBDer.
it’salmost ad if ye is right about EVERYTHING!
HEY! that’s me!
^^^NICE TRY (((PEEPEE)))^^^
btw, peepee could do a whole post on “why was jesus executed?”
there’s no DOGMATIC answer for that.
it’s still a debate.
except OBVIOUSLY he was not executed because he was a criminal in any conventional sense.
It’s too bad there’s no dogmatic answer because I’ve been looking for high ceiling bonus items to add to each subtest on the original WAIS (cause I know some people who I suspect are super smart) and I was thinking your Jesus question would make an excellent one for the Comprehension subtest. Of course you could say there’s no dogmatic answer to ANY Comprehension item.
Speaking of Jesus, you know how I like estimating peoples IQ from their 2 or 3 most salient cognitive correlates (so for Oprah estimated income and self-reported head size (which I know you disagree with) and blackness, for Howard Stern it was estimated income, height, and Ashkenazi ancestry etc. What would Jesus’s most salient cognitive correlates be? I originally did an analysis based on him being the 3rd most influential human of all time but this seemed to sell him short surely that’s not the only demographic variable for which he deviated significantly from the mean. So what would another be? Left Wing politics? Pacifism? Morality?
?? Galileo was executed by the Catholic Church dumbass for questioning 1 or 2% of the bible. How would that make me a Christian?
Galileo was executed by the Catholic Church
FALSE!
pill = peepee = JIDF = all commenters are a bunch of dumbass beta israel indians = SAD!
Its funny because theres a very strong chance Gailileo believed in the other 98% of the bible. Like Newton.
The only intellectual from hundreds of years ago that could break the illusion in his lifetime was Spinoza who had a gigantic IQ and was melancholy about being a black sheep because of his knowledge.
Galileo was executed by the Catholic Church
FALSE!
Ok.
The put him under permenant house arrest and after a few years put a pillow over his head while he slept and said he died peacefully as a good christian having recanted.
“…what would another be? Left Wing politics? Pacifism? Morality?”
Scholars are still debating which epistles Paul actually wrote. Do you think we have a good enough picture of Jesus as a historical figure to make any such estimate?
I seriously doubt it. Some have claimed that aspects of the New Testament narrative are syncretic (just like the Torah drawing from Sumerian myth), perhaps amalgamating aspects of the life of Judas of Galilee or others with the historical Jesus. Others have even tried to dispute the historicity of Jesus but this is generally dismissed in favor of “embellishment” hypotheses.
If the influence of Jesus was mediated by the early Nazarene sects (fact) and disseminated through scripture (fact), then I do not see any way to establish a strong causal link between any trait Jesus possessed and his influence. With the universalizing tendency of Christianity and dispersion across the Roman Empire through combined persecutions and the Second Temple’s destruction in 70 CE (resulting in the veritable collapse of Judea), the conditions were ideal for it to spread.
By the same logic, what are your thoughts on Muhammad?
I ask about Muhammad because the historicity of most specific events in his life is far clearer, btw.
I think Muhammad’s IQ would be high but not as high as you’d expect for the most influential man of all time, given how barbaric he was.
Yeah, that was my impression as well, but I do not know if he was necessarily much more barbaric than the surrounding culture. It’s unlikely that the Turco-Mongols in Timur’s time were much lower IQ in a genetic sense than contemporary Mongols. We would ofc expect a person who truly defied the norm to be more socially intelligent (which may be and likely is true in the case of Jesus, I’m just not 100% satisfied with documentation external to the Bible on this issue regarding his personal role in the eminence of Christianity as opposed to that of his disciples).
“Jesus question would make an excellent one for the Comprehension subtest”
Curious to see other responses, but if you’re serious feel free to redact others as well as mine.
Quid est veritas?
Est vir qui adest.
I would say it is simply that the power of the state rests on particularism, while Jesus in directing Paul to preach his gospel to the gentiles established his creed as a universalizing one. In contradicting not only the official pagan faith but the seat of Roman temporal power, Jesus presented a threat to both mortal authority and the supposed divine right of emperors. The Sanhedrin likewise wished to be the sole interpreters of Jewish law, which is why they had him handed over to Pilate by Judas Iscariot. Exactly the same reason why Soviet and Maoist authorities heavily stressed the atheistic aspects of Marxism (far more than Marx himself did). They want people to worship the materialist state and adopt legal positivism instead of natural law.
(No references; I’ve been researching religion as some arguments I’ve constructed have convinced me to no longer be an atheist. I’m not a Christian, although I am studying Hebrew and Koine with an interlinear Bible. I read the Gita, Vedas, Puranas, and Upanishads in Sanskrit before but they seemed to contain less wisdom.)
Further observation: I don’t think that Unitarian Universalism and Mormonism should be considered Christian denominations.
The former not only replicates Arianism/Sabellianism but also rejects most doctrine, while the latter…
Uh…
I don’t know how well known it is, but Mormons are polytheists.
This makes both arguably more different from mainstream Christianity than early Christianity was from Judaism, and it seems to be a cultural conceit to still group them together.
“not a Christian”
Full disclosure on this: I’m probably going to wind up in Reform. Philosophically it makes the most sense to me, and I started from Spinoza before proceeding to read further. I’m open to anyone’s mockery for this; I can’t accept the trinity (or the lack of doctrinal scholarship of Unitarianism), polytheism, the brutality and repression of either Islam or traditional Jewish sects, or the abstemiousness and abjurgation of physicality promoted by Buddhism (not to mention that karma is a stupid idea helping to facilitate caste). That leaves basically one thing.
On Mormons, never forget that Brigham Young likely ordered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre
In fact, the reason for my interest is that I stumbled upon an original formal proof of the existence of God while considering some quandaries in phenomenology. I’m going to try to publish it at some point and can share it if anyone is interested, but it’s very long. As a skeptic I tried attacking it from all angles and could find no holes.
I dont hate Mug at all. i think he’s funny. i laugh when i read his comments. but i dont think my rage can be tempered when he’s saying things that are spiteful to me. or anyone.
he irks me. i wish i had a stronger view of things. i wish despair and turmoil would boil away. but its so tough doing that.
i mean i love the world but the world needs more love from anyone but me now.
my mind is beautiful poetry. i know what im doing as much as they know what theyre doing too.
^^^NICE TRY (((PEEPEE)))^^^
He’s not me and neither is pill, or Melo, or RR or Afro.
indeed a lot of people on this blog are fickle-minded but temperamentally i think Pumpkin is fickle too. so am i i have little control over my emotions but im aware of why my emotions are spurious and when it happens. i dunno about other people because they rarely communicate this.
metacognition is the forefront of a strong thinking style. there is little excuse for it. i am smart. because i know i am a good problem solver and dynamically adaptive!
truths are things that never change can never be altered. there is little truth because most things change most things alter. but behind all of this is the structural formation of what it means to know more and to understand more.
and because of this truth can be harnessed for a productive and positive purpose!
the roman church has the idea of “heroic virtue”.
so there’s virtue and then there’s heroic virtue.
ye will never be a saint of the roman church but he may be demonstrating heroic virtue.
Read Nicomachean Ethics and you will clearly see how much an exercise in futility it is to classify “virtues.”
why the hate against me? i know ive crossed the line and said crazy ridiculous things but im still a man of integrity. Mug brings pestilence. its disturbing.
I think we just need a break from you. Take the rest of the day off.
Why do you keep saying ‘we’? Is it the Tel Aviv people?
Pumpkin why are you so full of hate? i did nothing wrong! i keep telling you this and you dont listen!
what is it that giving me the day off would even do? you have all these autistic clown talking about things doesnt make a shred of sense.
and you cant even answer my questions. thats sad.
As a young man, Spinoza challenged rabbinic authority and questioned Jewish doctrines, leading to his permanent expulsion from his Jewish community in 1656.
Basically he sent himself to the gulag. Being expelled from the ghetto in medieval europe as a jew basically made you a persona non grata.
Spinoza questioned the divine origin of the Hebrew Bible and the nature of God while arguing that ecclesiastic authority should have no role in a secular, democratic state.[19][20] Ethics argues for a pantheistic view of God and explores the place of human freedom in a world devoid of theological, cosmological, and political moorings.
500 years before Einstein or Langan.
Puppy and Mugabe will now say I am a mossad agent because I respect Spinoza even though spinoza rejected judaism and zionism and exiled himself from the other jews.
Zionism did not exist in the time of Spinoza, lol.
Yeah, strains of proto-Zionism predated Herzl but not by that long.
the very idea that the church would kill pipo like galileo is a TOTAL misunderstanding of the INQUISITION.
FACT!
COMMIES DID SHIT!
NAZIS DID SHIT!
CAPITALISTS DID SHIT!
THE CHURCH DID SHIT!
OF ALL THE PIPO WHO’VE DONE SHIT THE ROMAN CHURCH WAS THE KINDEST.
LIKE….BY FAR!
FACT!
peepee/pill/LOADED/SJW/etc.: BUT THE INQUISTION N SHIT!
mugabe: STFU! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT!
FACT!
Ok Ive changed my mind. Your religious fanatacism is more severe than puppy and melo
As I said 5 years ago. Spinoza is right about religion. His description of God is the closest thing Ive ever seen to my personal opinion on our creator.
^^^(((SPINOZA)))^^^
Through his mother, Spinoza was related to the philosopher Uriel da Costa, who stirred controversy in Amsterdam’s Portuguese Jewish community.[39] Da Costa questioned traditional Christian and Jewish beliefs, asserting that, for example, their origins were based on human inventions instead of God’s revelation. His clashes with the religious establishment led to his excommunication twice by rabbinic authorities, who imposed humiliation and social exclusion.[40] In 1639, as part of an agreement to be readmitted, da Costa had to prostrate himself for worshippers to step over him. He died in 1640, reportedly committing suicide
^^^JEWS PROMOTING JEWS^^^
pill: but the goyim are subhuman retards n shit.
mugabe: EXACTLY!
I’ve mentioned Spinoza in a reply further down the page, but it’s worth noting that according to most sources I’ve consulted da Costa’s expulsion had more to do with a direct reinterpretation of Mosaic law, whereas Spinoza’s Ethics and Theological-Political Treatise were seen as a potential danger to the situation of the Jews.
Spinoza’s God is philosophically Jewish in a certain sense even if contemporary rabbinic authorities hated him for it. The best part of the Abrahamic religions, which most Christians have stupidly done away with, is the generalized (not literal) prohibition against idolatry. Medieval Christian art tended to depict God at most as a severed hand, which was still of course quite silly, but pales in comparison to later anthropomorphism as a white-bearded bloke in the clouds borrowed from dyus-pitr. In short, Europeans ruined Christianity even more than trinitarianism and Nicaea in general already ruined it. The reason for this prohibition can be rationally understood not just as a rejection of Canaanite polytheistic practices but also of assigning any fixed form to God (which demonstrates a profound understanding of the signifier-signified distinction and thus HPoC).
Islam and Judaism each have their own flaws. The Quran is a despicably violent book and most forms of Judaism have barbarous impositions such as circumcision. But we find people like Mordecai Kaplan, Abraham Geiger, and Samuel Holdheim arriving at similar conclusions to Spinoza purely rooted in medieval commentaries. Regarding some of these practices, I encourage you to read Maimonides’ Mishneh Torah as a supplement to the Talmud and Rashi’s commentaries. He makes it quite clear that it was known in his day that circumcision drastically reduced the male’s ability to feel pleasure (which Christian and secular doctors have swept under the rug to universalize the practice — this particular social contagion in America is the fault of Kellogg more than of Judaism) and that women claiming they prefer cut cocks is a function of modern brainwashing. According to Maimonides, circumcision is supposedly a moral good because it weakens the sensual bond between man and wife, which would otherwise detract from appreciating God. He asserts that women care less for circumcised men, and I believe him. This is, of course, evil. Not only that, it is contrary to the Torah itself, which stipulates that a man is obligated to satisfy his wife.
But why does it actually exist? Circumcision is not only a Jewish practice, having developed pluricentrically (also in Subsahara etc.) Clearly it is harmful, since no species has ever evolved away from having a foreskin despite variation of length and heritability being present. This is because the glans is intended to be an internal organ, and stripping it down to a tiny fraction of its natural sensitivity would disincentivize reproduction outside of a society that programs people to have lots of babies. The nerves involved in orgasm are largely internal, whereas pleasure before orgasm is primarily due to surficial nerves. Coupled with social programming, this discourages coitus interruptus and in a pre-contraception world forces people to have procreative sex if they want pleasure. One might also imagine it reflects the Arendtian characterization of men as violence-objects and women as sex-objects. There is a sexual contract, historically. And circumcision just might have been meant to temper the male tendency towards sexual assault to promote community cohesion. Either way, it has no place in civilized society. From Freud to Hirschfeld, every Jewish sexologist who has considered the question hated his parents for it. The rest are just too hidebound.
NB: it is hypocritical to prohibit idolatry while exactly following either a fixed text or an oral tradition of “living script.” The former is obvious while the latter reduces eventually to the same game of telephone as hadith (remember when Hanafi jurists thought drinking distilled spirits was just fine because the prohibitions against alcohol specifically mentioned the Classical Arabic word khamr? This is like that.)
Orthodox Jews will find every conceivable way to follow the letter of Mosaic law while completely disregarding the spirit of it. They are identical in mindset to Tea Party “constitutional originalists.”
This returns to the original point (and I apologize for divagating). Prohibiting idolatry in all forms (viz, assuming an apophatic rather than deictic stance) naturally leads to vaguely Spinozist ideas of God if taken to its logical conclusion. Branches of Judaism such as Reform and Reconstructionist have resolved many internal contradictions to arrive at essentially the same necessary endpoint. This could not happen in Islam due to greater emphasis on orthodoxy in balance against orthopraxy.
pill: yeah dude. galileo was burned at the stake n shit muhfugguh.
mugabe: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. NO!
FALSE!
>watches Kneel “The Grass” Tyson once
>Giordano Brunoposting
A funnier story is when Abraham Abulafia attempted to convert pope Nicholas III to Judaism. The pope heard of this and prepared a trap to burn Abulafia alive. Luckily for Abulafia, the pope died just before he reached the gates of Rome.
You know before today. if you told me it was possible for a person in 2025 to have a phd in theoretical physics and also believe in sharia law I would laughed at that.
I now think this is psychologically possible.
I agree it’s possible because intelligence evolved to get us what we want and not all smart people want the truth, though most EXTREMELY smart people do.
the truth is that most people make decisions emotionally so a lot of things we think are rational are irrational and vice versa.
theres no need to get things confused here people believe in things they want to be real. its not that hard to think of it in those terms.
theres so much more to human psychology that we still dont understand let alone the Universe’s laws and origins and everything else.
most geniuses and noteworthy thinkers were religious.
^^^PEEPEE IS PILL AND A JEW = SAD!^^^
That’s nice Mug of Pee. Now answer my questions about Jesus.
like i said…
i feel the need to post another arthur russell song.
peepee/LOADED/pill/etc.: whatever it is it’s gonna be gay and retarded.
mugabe: and?
peepee/LOADED/pill/etc.: and i’m’onna be UN-able to get it out of my head like for at least a…
same picture, different song.
fuck you fuck Arthur Russell fuck self-serving white people. we all know all whites are racist against themselves and everyone else.
I have a tip for you Mug next time you wanna share something on the Internet think about it and decide not to do it you cringy old fuck.
you fucking pathetic excuse of a man! of a living being! you are lazy and arrogant just like YOUR father!
fool!
Culturism is the way of the future, for any person may achieve betterment by abandoning atavistic habits. Racism is despicable. For once you’re right, about white self-flagellation and covert denigration of the other. For each person there is a most natural and fulfilling way to act, which is seldom achieved. If but Asia could abandon the extremes of collectivism, originality might serve her better as it has served Europe…
I say this as a Marxist. The point is creativity, not blind obeisance.
it’s sad being the only non-peepee commenter.
peepee: but that would imply that oprah, who looks like a gorilla wearing a wig, is evil.
mugabe: EXACTLY!
peepee: racism n shit!
mugabe: no! oprah looks like a gorilla wearing a wig. BUT she’s only evil because she LIES about it.
Well at least we agree about oprah. Even if we disagree about religion.
I don’t care if she’s ugly or evil. If she’s ugly it means she had to adapt. If she’s evil it means she would do so in a concrete way
It’s Michael Jackson who lies about it,
^^^100% PURE STRAIGHT-UP SATANISM^^^
peepee: if “ADAPT” means being evil then it’s good.
wait…
what???
i think i just contradicted myself because i worship SATAN!
mugabe: EXACTLY!
peepee: evil is good because ADAPT n shit.
mugabe: LITERALLY THE DEFINITION OF SATANISM.
Intelligence evolved because we’re predators so in oder to observe intelligence in the wild, you need a high IQ person who is at least a bit evil when they need to be
Its funny because I don’t see michael jackson as an evil person even if he was a paedo.
But if oprah is working for weinstein and cosby, then obviously shes evil.
If anything she’s evil because she didn’t defend Weinstein. I feel bad for him because he told Candace Owens he knows the most powerful person in media and she’s known him for years and knows he would never do these terrible things,
Candace said if these people are such good friends why haven’t any of them defended you? That’s how she got the interview
Puppy didnt you just say above that racism is “always” evil. Since all the intelligent people are racist does that mean intelligence must always be evil?
The most intelligent people are the least racist relative to their race. Ed witten, one of the smartest Jews ever defends the Palestinians.
Almost all the most intelligent jews are foaming at the mouth neocons. In fact theyre so intelligent, some of them even pretend to be liberals lol and have a fake debates where they will eventually conclude more arabs need to be killed.
The Jews you see in the media are not a representative sample of the smartest Jews. There are thousands of much smarter Jews who aren’t psychopathic/obedient enough to get ahead in media and are just quietly working in academia or more modest positions
Youre not going to believe me but Stephen Jay Gould was a racial supremacist. Pretty obvious. His personal opinions on arabs, whites and blacks would be even worse than me opinion of jews and blacks.
Wouldn’t surprise me. Rushton himself thought Gould was a fraud
Much more extreme than JP Rushton too.
Yeah Gould is a typical neocon. Was he around for the first Iraq War?
After 9-11, did he say we needed to invade the Middle East?
You follow him more closely than me.,
“Rushton himself thought Gould was a fraud”
Haha the funny thing is, when Rushton responded to Gould’s 1978 paper where Gould originally attacked Morton, Rushton did what he accused Gould of doing.
“Note that Gould’s table gives identical values for the capacities of Mongolians and Modem Caucasians. Rushton’s citing of the values is different, giving ‘Mongoloids’ a higher value than for ‘Caucasoids’. This is, of course, in line with the rank ordering that Rushton gives for the biological variables discussed in his review. How can Rushton cite values from Gould’s table for Mongoloid and Caucasoids that do not appear in the published table? Rushton seems to have done two things. First, he seems to have taken an unweighted average of the values for Modem Caucasians and for Ancient Caucasians given in Gould’s table. The ‘Ancient Caucasian’ skulls consisted of ‘ancient skulls from Egyptian tombs’ (Gould, 1978, p. 507). An unweighted average of Modem and Ancient Caucasians is 84.5, which is the value cited by Rushton for ‘Caucasoids’. Rushton’s reason for including the data from ancient Egyptian skulls is unclear, and is not justifiable given their great age (the drying of skulls over time alters their capacity) and the fact that the sex of the skull and body height could not be determined for most of these skulls. As will be discussed below, these are important variables determining the volume of skulls. Second, Rushton increased the value of the Mongolian subgroup from 85 to 85.5. It is not clear why this was done, and it appears that Rushton has miscited the data in Gould’s table, and he has done so in a way that yields the ordering of cranial capacity that is consistent with his theory.”
We know that Gould was right about Morton. I wonder what Rushton’s response would have been to Weisberg (2014), Kaplan, Pigliucci and Banta (2015), and Weisberg and Paul (2016).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24761929/
https://philpapers.org/archive/KAPGOM.pdf
https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002444
Question for TP: Why did Gould think that Morton was biased with his skull measurements?
Theres a kind of satirical quality to your comments. If I was pretending to be a dumb SJW, I would literally write the same comments.
Anyways, most the names you quoted to counter Rushton are jews. No surprises. Man this is getting old.
The ssatirical content is your own because that doesn’t refute the argument.
Gould’s two best ideas were the spandrel and selection occurring partially independently at every level of organization.
Either of these would be blindingly obvious to a mathematician (aside: so are Darwin’s postulates, and I am sure someone will raise the old canard about conditional fitness representing circular logic, which it doesn’t because we do not need to prespecify the exact nature of a phenomenon to assert its existence), which is why so much research in evolutionary biology prior to the turn of the millennium seems pretty silly. The latter of these is the more interesting, because Immanuel Kant came to some absurd proto-Hegelian conclusions in Idea for a Universal History by failing to apply the analogous principle to social selection and considering only individuals and states without intermediate levels.
Jesus Christ. Black Leftists are some of the worst fucking people bro. I just got kicked out of a 6-panel debate on TikTok Live for not being racist to white people enough. It’s crazy.
Some lady was like “I’m a proud black supremacist”
and I was like “Why’d you marry a white guy then?”
She went nuts and started calling me poor and Irish. It was so weird. It went even crazier when I brought up the fact that you can’t be a black supremacist when black people have such low education and IQ.
Hahaha I would have actually watched this shitshow.
LO-fucking-L. You are so fucking autistic Melo. you just had a chimp-off with a bunch of black folks online wtf.
this proves beyond a measurable doubt that Melo is gay and autistic. who the fuck would tell a bunch of black “supremacists” that theyre dumb and uneducated knowing good and well that would react the way they did lol!
this is comedic. i mean i just wish this wouldve happened in real life so Melo wouldve been ambushed by a bunch of these folks.
like seriously can you imagine the carnage that would ensue against this fucking freak autist!
LMAO!
“who the fuck would tell a bunch of black “supremacists” that theyre dumb and uneducated knowing good and well that would react the way they did”
Well, that was the point. They clearly had an unearned sense of self-righteousness and I felt like I needed to put them in their place.
It was fun.
Its interesting. Trump has to make a decision on Gaza. Does he want the Nobel Prize or does he want more bribes from Israel?
Isn’t trump worth $5b?
Well, puppy wont let me say it here. But Trump is also being threatened physically by the neocons. James Comey literally posted a public image calling for a hit on the president, who Comey said is a ‘russian spy’.
If you told me as a normal IQ working class guy that the president is a secret Russian spy and need to spend more time focusing on Israel’s security and less time on making peace with America’s enemies….
I would genuinely ask you what are you smoking.
Ok Puppy. What did JP Rushton say Oprah’s IQ was?
If he says its more than 90, than you might sway me.
But if he said that just to make a deranged lunatic on a phone call with him not explode into rage, then for me, hes being nice.
No he hadn’t yet realized I was a deranged lunatic at that point. lol.
He seemed to really like me when I first called, ending the call by inviting me to drop by if I decided to become a student at Western.
When I mentioned Oprah had a huge head he said “I would imagine that a lot of these black entertainers are very intelligent”, and I remembered thinking, no you don’t get it, she’s not just another black entertainer, she’s the most successful black life form to ever walk the universe.
Then when I mentioned her head was 25.25″ around he seemed shocked. “Where did you get that figure?”
I explained she mentioned it on her show and he said “isn’t that interesting that HERS should be so big”
He agreed there was “definitely a very clear connection” between her having the biggest head and being the most successful.
But he also stressed that there was a lot more than JUST IQ involved in her achievements, there was also timing and social intelligence although he did not think blacks were more socially intelligent.
Since I was extremely young at the time I asked some silly questions like whether he thought she was a genetic mutant to which he replied “there are always going to be those who are WAY OFF in the top 1%, and indeed one would have to be to succeed in a field as competitive as television talk shows” He himself had been interviewed by some of Oprah’s competitors like the BRILLIANT Phil Donahue who she so famously dethroned in 1986:
Well for the record. I respect every single thing JP says. But its unfortunate he never mentioned an IQ estimate. Maybe he would need more time.
He had only seen her show a few times, but he seemed confident, based simply on her success as a talk show host, that she must at the very least be in the top 1% of blacks.
My biggest regret is never asking Chris Langan about Oprah’s IQ when we briefly interacted on a web forum decades ago. On the one hand he thinks blacks have very low IQs & may even hate Oprah because she’s a “liberal elite” but on the other hand I converted him into being a huge believer in head size:
Chris would definitely say a lower score than me. 100% certain.
Just ask that clown on Twitter.
I did ask him a long time ago and he didn’t answer even though I know for a fact he’s read my blog.
Yes Chris, the highest IQ man in america is a clown and a high school dropout fitness bro is not.
TATTTTHHH MATTTHHHH SENTHHHH!!!
If soem gigantic black guy in London comes up to me in the street and says hes going to murder me if I dont say blacks are smarter than jews. 100% I will say theyre smarter and walk away.
Its called DURESS dumbass.
Didnt the CIA torture random muslim people they took off the street in Baghdad to ‘confess’ they were attacking America? LOL
Pretty likely Michelle Obama has twice the upper body strength as Terry Tao.
If you want to call Terry genetically superior, go ahead.
Racism is moral.
Never let these clowns tell you otherwise.
No mam, it’s very evil.
I feel like John McCain, an anti-racist surrounded by a racist audience:
John McCain was a neocon PUPPET you fool!!! You think he actually believes that????
I’m just saying I knowing how he felt. It’s hard to maintain one’s respectable image when you’re surrounded by a racist audience like you, Mug of Pee and others. Part of the reason Obama won is McCain refused to play dirty out of fear being seen as racist. The fact that Trump had no such fear would later give him a HUGE competitive advantage.
Yeah Trump attacked Kamala and her race. It was great. He won because of top 0.1 social intelligence. He knew it would work, even with democrat voters.
Yeah once híllary lost the black vote to Obama she started pandering to white racists too saying stuff like “working Americans, white Americans” as if only whites work lol
Youre calling him an anti racist and his express purpose in the senate was to butcher arabs and arab children.
I can’t even deal with this anymore. Im taking a break.
Politically correct is what I meant.
“as if only whites work lol”
Yes. Basically this is true.
If an action causes harm to others without justification, then it is immoral. If racism causes harm to others without justification, then racism is immoral. So racism is immoral.
WOW how could you disagree with that??? LOL
Are you really a satanist like Mugabe says?
I agree racism is evil (depending how it’s defined) but isn’t almost everyone evil? For example most Americans eat beef and look at how cattle is treated. These are conscious beings that suffer everyday just so we can have a delicious hamburger (even though Indian veggie burgers are sometimes even better & when Bill Gates offered to grow beef in a lab he gets attacked on social media). So the issue is not whether something is evil, but the selective sanctioning of evil.
I agree with that. I love eating meat and I’ll be honest, I can’t reconcile meat-eating and being moral (due to what animals go through in factory farming). I should look for a small, local farm to buy meat from.
Delicious but unhealthy
What are your thoughts on fasting completely for several days in a row each week?
It’s a good way to control caloric intake. Most people shouldn’t do that. My sister does 2 24 hours fasts a week (3 days between each fast) and has done so for years.
Back in my early 20s I would have a heavy ass deadlift day and go to IHOP. I’d get a steak, 5 eggs, potatoes, and then unlimited pancakes (New York cheesecake, of course). The server was shocked at how much I was eating and asked me how I stay so ripped while eating so much. Then I’d roughly calculate how many kcal I ate during that sitting (it was always around 5000). So I would have this meal on Sunday morning then I would fast all day Monday and then all day Tuesday until Tuesday night and break my fast with a small steak and continue my diet from there.
Good times. I can’t do that anymore. (Family life gets in the way.)
My sister does 2 24 hours fasts a week (3 days between each fast) and has done so for years.
Complete fasts? She eats nothing on those days?
It’s a good way to control caloric intake.
I suspect it’s more than that. Even if you consumed the same amount of calories in a week, having a few days where you are absolutely nothing might have independent health effects because if your body feels its starving, it’s more likely to defend its integrity. At least that’s what I get from listening to David Sinclair who looks decades younger than he is, despite having terrible health genes so he claims, but who knows, maybe he’s just a botoxed con-man.
Why are you asking a quack who openly believes in quack science about fasting and nutrition.
Its like asking Sam Bankman Fried for investment advice.
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Cenk and Marjorie Taylor Green agreeing on 99% of the conversation.
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I’ve spent a lot of time studying Judaism recently, for several reasons.
While the Jewish emphasis on orthopraxy over orthodoxy has led to absurdities like debating whether a sturgeon is a fish with scales (and bringing in a mathematician to answer the question), or the group of rabbis who accosted Richard Feynman in an elevator to ask if pushing a lighted button was tantamount to working on Shabbat, it has also historically freed up the philosophical dimension of the religion. Whether you are a consequentialist or a deontologist, whether you believe in utilitarianism or not, the pro-ASI rhetoric coming out of Silicon Valley could not exist without people who assert testable physicalism. I recently saw an idiot octogenarian professor emeritus claiming that quantum fields are the cause of consciousness and that his schizo model makes falsifiable predictions. It does not, obviously, and Karl Popper would be rolling in his grave, but people who do not understand QFT have referred to it as a reason to have faith in qualia as emergent phenomena whose supervenience can be established in a determinate way.
“The things themselves are not what science can reach… but only the relations between things.”
~Henri Poincare
Moreland’s argument on correlative states (how qualia are assigned to physical representation) is not perfect but works after a little modification. Returning to Jews, Spinoza was censured not because he was heterodox per se but because Dutch Jews feared Christian persecution for tolerating his ideas, since the dominant Christian culture favored orthodoxy over orthopraxy. But if we combine these two arguments (Spinoza and modified Moreland), the very same instrumental convergence that tells us ASI is a threatening prospect tells us that if we are to care about anything emergent from qualitative states, we should care about the existence of these states in the first place — i.e. not sacrifice other humans (for whom there is stronger evidence of qualitative perception) in favor of ASI (for which there would be weaker evidence).
It’s no surprise therefore that the Jews who do support AI research or e/acc are usually not religious and do not care about tikkun olam. The same goes for Israeli military leadership. Israeli Jews seem to split into three approximate categories:
I) believes the nation of Israel and the state of Israel are the same for religious reasons
II) does not believe they are the same, but considers group I) to be useful idiots
III) does not believe they are the same, and opposes group II)
Netanyahu and his cronies are in group II). I recommend reading this essay by Gilles Dauve if you have the time, it’s very interesting:
Click to access middleast.pdf
To be clear, Dauve’s essay is interesting, but I disagree with several portions of it and it is not very well written (the author is French so I think it may be partly forgiven). Some portions are insightful, but they are the minority. It is simply uncommon to find any kind of semi-comprehensive historical survey of the conflict. Much greater detail could certainly be dedicated to Britain’s various double-crosses and the Ottoman-dhimmi relationship over time.
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John Leibowtiz says it bad the muslims bribed trump.,
Hes been in media 35 years and never once mentioned Israeli bribes.
But that’s precisely what gives Israel so much power. So many rich Zionists are American citizens and thus can LEGALLY give to U.S. politicians, unlike rich Arabs. But because Trump is the first president to be above the law, he can take bribes from anyone so for the first time Arabs have an opportunity to level the playing field & neocons are going apeshit.
Whenever I read his real name I always think of this book:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/164154.A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz
Worth a read tbh.
I think if you sat him down and put a truth potion into him and asked him his idenity. Jon would say hes a proud jew. But would not say he was an american.
Becuase unlike you dumbass, jews have top 1% VIQ like me. When he thinks of the word ‘american’ he thinks of the same image I do.
He doesn’t think of a fuckin bureacratic process
If your verbal IQ is high you’d understand the context. I was looking to see what U.S. ethnic groups were overrepresented among song writers so I had to count them the same way the census does, otherwise it wouldn’t be an apples to apples comparison.
Your VIQ is in the toilet. You think the word neoliberal basically means ‘leftist’, progressive or liberal.
I can’t even understand…
I will be willing to go on camera if I can administer a verbal IQ test to you
Actually I’ve known what the word neoliberal meant since 2008 at the latest. There’s a very good reason I tried so hard to ban but you autists can’t take a hint lol
Man I would say Mugabe went into a psychotic episode last night. But all religious people sound like that, all the time. Including you and Melo and RR.
Im the only sane person here.
In every politics debate. The first thing is to tattack the opponent on their race. All other stuff is irrelevant.
Ok Ive changed my mind on Bill Gates. Ive read some more things and I just think hes confused about making the world a better place. But he genuinely does want it to be.
This is slightily different from Soros who also wants to do good things but some of his ideas are kind of very related to his experience of the holocaust (i.e. promoting refugees).
Its actually hard to believe Soros and Buffet are still alive. And neither say anything about trump
I think Charlie Munger endorsed Trumps tariffs when he was alive. I remember that.
Charlie blurted out by accident once that he believes in HBD and jews having higher IQs. I always remember that.
Because he was senile. As an economist I can tell you that the tarrifs are going to hurt poor people like you much more than rich people like me & RR
There’s no tariff on the doorman at my apartment or the housekeeper who cleans my house but there is a tarrif on most of your expenses
Hahaha you calling yourself an economist now nearly made me choke on my tea
I now understand. you guys need me. I am your hero your savior. yes my comment quality is not great sometimes but I have the methods to saving your entire existences.
Bruh, no.
We’re telling you to LEAVE.
Pumpkin stop protecting this goon and post my comments. or at least post this one because Melo is a very toxic person…..
i just wanna say that its indecent the way Melo thinks he’s some type of really capable and sensationally talented person and is just spouting things unnecessarily. all his posts are narcissistic and solipsistic
i dont know why he thinks he’s not trolling he clearly is. its insane this con artist of a man thinks he’s fooling somebody.
some of you may believe im projecting but thats unfair to me.
regardless i am aware that i am a good commenter and the readers of this blog would agree.
I mean, I’ve said I was trolling a lot. But I’m Schrödinger’s troll.
I took the day off took a nap too I’m feeling better. I’m feeling more aware. I now know more than ever my purpose!
i am qualified!
My people need me! I am beckoning one of you to show love. i am a man of wisdom. of talent. of audacity. to speak!
when no one else does!
ive done so too many times.
Melo why do you think you have a high social IQ when youre AUTISTIC. with all capital letters.
thats like me saying im good at sports or something and thats less of an exaggeration than you saying you have a high social IQ lmao.
autists have below average social IQs. even the most talented autists have low social IQs. what would make you an exception at a general IQ level of 110.
really disgusting.
i mean cmon man all you do is spaz and write stupid political views. theres no point in that. you have no maturity.
try writing about topics that bring people together not apart Melo. you have no idea what sustenance that would bring to you!
youre not smart Melo. youre really not. youre some real deranged autistic looney. get a life and stop harassing me.
Cringe. As I said: Mark behavior.
Define mark behavior and give me a two page essay on how and why these behaviors are exhibited here.
your argument should include a thesis and what you believe contributes to mark behavior. have it done by the evening time and leave it at my desk RR you dirty rotten Italian queer.
Defining “mark behavior”
In ethology, mark behavior (often written “marking behavior”) refers to the set of actions by which an animal deliberately deposits a chemical, visual, or tactile cue— urine, feces, secretions from specialized glands, scratches, vocal marks, or even displaced objects— onto a surface in its environment. The resulting mark acts as a persistent signal that can be detected later by the same animal, by conspecifics, or by potential rivals and mates of other species. Although the exact mechanism differs by taxon, the underlying purpose is information transfer: a mark communicates ownership (“this is mine”), availability (“I’m ready to breed”), identity (“I was here”), or status (“I outrank you”). Thesis
Mark behavior is an adaptive, multi-modal communication strategy that evolved because it increases an individual’s fitness by reducing costly conflicts, advertising reproductive condition, and structuring social space; its expression at any moment is shaped by hormones, resource distribution, population density, and learned experience. How and why mark behaviors are exhibited 1. Territorial advertisement and conflict avoidance
Resources such as food, nesting sites, and safe resting spots are finite. Physically defending them at all times would drain energy and invite injury. By depositing a conspicuous scent on boundary trees (wolves), scratch marks on trunks (black bears), or urine posts along travel corridors (domestic cats), an animal broadcasts its claim asynchronously. Intruders pick up the cue, assess the resident’s age, sex, and sometimes even relative hormone levels, and often choose to steer clear rather than test the owner. The mark thus functions as a low-cost “no trespassing” sign that substitutes for a risky face-to-face fight. 2. Reproductive signaling
Many species overlay breeding information onto their territorial marks. When a female dog enters estrus, estrogen spikes alter the volatile compounds in her urine; males detecting those volatiles increase their own marking rates and home-in on her location. In rodents, flank-gland secretions vary with testosterone and photoperiod; they tell females which males are hormonally primed and genetically robust. By externalizing internal physiological state, marking accelerates mate finding and allows choosers (usually females) to sample genetic quality without direct confrontation. 3. Social ranking and group cohesion
In social carnivores— hyenas, wolves, meerkats— communal latrines and group scent-rubbing create a collective odor signature. Members that smell “right” are greeted amicably; strangers that smell “wrong” provoke alarm or attack. Dominants frequently over-mark subordinates, layering their scent atop others’ to reinforce hierarchy. The constant olfactory “news feed” stabilizes group membership and smooths daily interactions, especially in low-visibility environments where visual cues are unreliable.
Factors that contribute to mark behavior:
Endocrine state – (e.g., testosterone, estrogen, cortisol)Modulates frequency and intensity; high-testosterone males scent-mark more and create larger territories.
Resource dispersion – Patchy, defensible resources promote more frequent marking than abundant, evenly spread ones.
Population density – At intermediate densities, marks efficiently sort ownership; at very high densities, signal noise can overwhelm usefulness, leading some species to switch to direct defense.
Seasonality & photoperiod – Many northern-latitude mammals intensify marking in late winter/spring when breeding begins.
Learning & social context – Young mammals observe parents’ mark sites and emulate them; some birds (e.g., scrub-jays) learn to cache vaguely scented food out of sight when conspecific pilfering pressure is high.
Predation pressure – Species under intense predation may down-regulate overt marking (scent or visual) to avoid revealing their position. Why these behaviors appear here
Even in a modern human setting—offices, dormitories, online forums—echoes of biological marking remain. People personalize desks with photos, choose distinctive email signatures, or leave coffee mugs in communal kitchens not purely out of utility but to signal territory, identity, and status. Graffiti in urban alleys, gamer tags sprayed on virtual walls, and geotagged social-media posts all parallel scent posts on a trail: each stakes a claim, announces presence, and sculpts social space without constant physical patrol.
Likewise, digital avatars “over-mark” by replying to a thread with quoting and bold text so their message sits atop earlier ones—an echo of a dominant wolf urinating over another’s scent. The same logic applies: over-marking asserts rank and attempts to steer future interactions in one’s favor. Conclusion
Mark behavior, whether a wolf’s scented boundary or a person’s nameplate on an office door, is a cost-effective communication system honed by natural selection to solve recurring problems of territory, mate choice, and social organization. Expression of the behavior is plastic, tuned moment-to-moment by hormones, ecological reality, and social feedback. Appreciating these deep roots helps explain why, even in a world of glass buildings and fiber-optic cables, we still feel the impulse to leave our “scent” on the spaces we value—and why others instinctively read and respond to those marks.
Someone who’s easily fooled or seen as “easy” to get one over on.
You idiot RR I know how to use Google to look up what a mark is I was asking you what you calling me a mark has anything to do with this blog.
youre all gullible fools too are you aware that a victim of being a mark is not as bad as someone doing the fooling?
a wise man like me can play fool but a fool like you cant play wise.
It’s a slang term, dumbass. It has to do with your markneas seeping through the screen.
“I’m not a mark! I was just pretending to be one!”
I Googled “mark slang term” you know-nothing shithead RR!
youre a fucking cocksucking Italian freak who is pro-psychiatry and a bunch of other stupid shit. just hang it up RR.
youre not worth anyones time.
I literally don’t think about you.
“even the most talented autists have low social IQs”
You are wrong. I was diagnosed with autism at the age of four. I got 37/40 on the Yale social psych test (>99.7th %ile), 33/36 iirc on RMET (>99th %ile for men), and 19 SS on WISC Comp as a kid (lowest of the verbal scores, but still decent). Analyzing how people behave is fascinating. Now, I’m also quite sure I have BPD and I am extremely emotional in person, which might not come across online, but it’s not just anecdata either. Simon Baron-Cohen’s research with the RMET shows there is a subcategory of ASD cases who outperform controls. Analyses of process demonstrate it’s likely through deliberation, but whether social understanding comes from unquestioned intuition or social learning doesn’t matter in terms of results.
your social IQ sucks. this hopefully is my last comment here because Pumpkin knows im banned because he is an exploitative retard.
but yes your social IQ the IQ in question is not high enough to be admirable Cartouche. im sorry to myself i ever said sorry to you.
It’s not admirable, nor did I claim anything to be, nor is your mental illness and turning on a dime admirable. I’m sorry you are the way that you are.
thanks for stealing my joke. youre a retard. goodbye to you too and worst of luck on your endeavors.
I’m not going back n forth with anyone on the Internet. its childish and stupid. im too mature for that. im just saying you guys are brainwashed fools.
why is that hard to accept.
its funny that Melo dickrides RR so hard even though both are the stupidest members of this blog. its because RR is a personal trainer and Melo is gay so he thinks RR is some sort of messiah for him.
i laughed when Pumpkin told me to treat RR with more respect because he sides with minorities now. like who tf wants a white savior for any reason.
RR is just that. a person with a messiah complex thinking he can actually change the world and then having Melo a dickrider be his second in command or something.
very gay. very homosexual. very awkward and weird.
everyone else here is weird too but these two people are fucked.
and Pumpkin thinks he can solely rely on intelligence to get by with his subpar personality when personality is more important.
i mean i have a 120 social IQ so i see these things. im sure Pumpkin doesnt have much of a higher social IQ than me in many ways. so its just kind of weird he places himself as a genius when he really is not!
“i mean i have a 120 social IQ so i see these things.”
LOL
Poor Loaded.
The Indian Kanye West
Anyone who tells you theyre attracted to intelligence is lying. intelligence is not attractive to most people. or any people really.
most humans are very primitive and rudimentary in thought so they will look at whats on the outside not the inside. this is why its not really true that intelligence is important to having success.
humans are not very rational as opposed to a higher species. I was thinking about how humans like to compare and contrast. thats what the main part of what intelligence is used for nowadays but we are told not to do this.
so its almost like an obsolete or atavistic thing to use intelligence in the sense that most people should. and no species or persons is superior in most ways. there are minor things most people are better at but not very keen on doing things at that level anyways so it becomes something negligible anyways.
im just saying that humans are just barely at the threshold of intelligent. no genes accumulate in such a way that gives people an advantage because everything is a double-edged sword.
most traits and actions or whatever are not black and white therefore intelligence has become about discernment and therefore humans cannot do the right thing solely based on the intelligence level we have right now its about accumulating knowledge and doing things about it through intelligence later!
Social and musical intelligence are very attractive to people.
Certain types of ‘entrepreneurial’/hustling also.
Assortative mating tells us this is a terrible take.
People tend not to date outside their communication range, and while I don’t have any studies handy specifically on self-reported relationship satisfaction by IQ gap once a relationship has commenced, studies on autism show that at least some forms of neurodivergence impose a barrier when only one partner is affected.
All attraction is relative, and for every person whom one finds to have a certain level of attractiveness, there is always someone else more attractive (hence why selection for monogamy was partially independent of attractiveness, requiring a large gap in apparent phenotypic fitness for prehistoric man to switch partners).
The converse is that if one *can’t* date anyone below a certain IQ threshold, one is in effect attracted to intelligence even if one would rather phrase it as being repulsed by stupidity.
Speaking of a general fitness factor, most of the common SNPs we have identified that correlate positively with IQ also correlate with facial symmetry, so that’s a confounding factor.
Most people are not attracted to intelligence and are, in fact, repelled by it in a dating context owing to the symmetric nature of communication range issues — why about half of MIT graduate students are found to be virgins in surveys.
But there are really several questions here.
Rated attractiveness (likely + correlation with IQ), probability of entering a relationship (likely -), age of virginity loss (known +), number of lifetime partners (usually -), self-reported libido (known – in men and + in women past a certain point), fecundity (usually -), etc. etc.
And each may have a different answer. On exposure to photographs I think we would expect a positive correlation due to general fitness and IQ sharing with bodily proportions in the optimality of lacking rare, pervasive loss-of-function mutations.
my point was that most humans arent even intelligent enough to be aware of where their communication range is so your point is not really effective in being made.
i mean do you really believe most people have the intellect to tell you theyre intelligent or not? its circular logic but its not an example of fallacious logic at all.
what im trying to say is most people are Dunning-Kruger. that means that your take is actually wrong in far more ways than mine.
you assume people have this or that but without a consensus and there usually is none how can we know what it is that people desire and what they dont.
you truly dont know Cartouche. you truly dont.
You made a blanket statement.
“Anyone who tells you theyre [sic] attracted to intelligence is lying.”
If you were smart enough for my point to apply to you, you would know (which makes your arrogance particularly funny). Assortative mating tends to apply whether or not people are aware of the nature of their preferences/needs; these still exist regardless.
Dunning-Kruger is irrelevant. Whatever one thinks the absolute level of one’s ability is, rank order within the population still tends to determine the viability of pair-bonding to a degree.
Let me give you a very concrete analogy, since you don’t get it. Suppose a woman truly believes (and there are many such cases) that she does not care about her prospective partner’s height, but she subconsciously does and it is manifest over time in her selection of partners. Conscious ignorance does not imply zero impact on attraction.
Cartouche, do you have a reference for your claim about IQ and communication range?
wtf are you even saying Cartouche. no one gets your point. gtf off my thread if you dont like what i said. i dont need your opinions here.
youre not stating facts or being objective youre being opinionated and stupid.
Pumpkin wont post my comments because he doesnt want the truth out there but youre not a genius Cartouche.
you are a Car-touche. lol.
Which specific claim?
I am asking this because “communication range” is a bit of shorthand (we still use this terminology because Hollingworth did, but it’s not an absolute cutoff). If you want me to provide a citation for it being a absolute cutoff, I won’t and can’t because that is not my claim. The probability just becomes vanishingly small after a certain point.
I can provide citations for the correlation of spousal IQ (which remains after controlling for confounds). The rest follows from basic statistics — if we consider the effects only of selection by IQ in a pool of potential mates for person X, knowing the correlation and that the general population we’re sampling from is normally distributed in the trait, we can estimate the probability distribution of the partner’s IQ conditioned on the IQ of person X. In particular, we can bound the variance (edge cases of r=1.0 and 0 corresponding to a delta-function and a random sample from the normally distributed general pop).
Here are a couple of studies (the first is the classic one to reference):
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01065906
Click to access Botwin-JP-1997.pdf
Interestingly, the second paper finds that newlyweds have dramatically higher inter-partner correlation on SAT-M than those who are merely dating.
Loaded, I don’t claim to be a genius. You are the only person in this conversation who regularly self-applies that word. I’ve seen several comments of yours to that effect, lmfao.
I do believe that I’m probably around 170 IQ, but this is on the basis of many, many tests of different types (including several forms of the old SAT and GRE). That does not make me a genius. But it might place me outside your communication range.
“no one gets your point”
That seems like a you problem.
“edge cases of r=1.0 and 0 corresponding to a delta-function and a random sample from the normally distributed general pop”
To clarify, this is to illustrate the intuition with a very simple example, obviously not the actual way you’d go about estimating. I can’t type LaTeX here.
I also have a theory that the higher a person’s musical IQ, the more good looking that person is.
I can’t think of a songwriter or famous singer/dancer who was bad looking.
Adult Michael Jackson was hideous before surgery
Actuallly he wasn’t lol. He looks fine in Thriller before even with a bad moustache and haircut.
He wasn’t that bad. He just had a big nose.
Michael Jackson might be an inspiration to Pill and Melo but to me he will always be a child-lover.
Yeah its strange I dont think he was a bad guy.
Theres the other issue that Jackson was schiz. Like you. and not his ‘true’ person
its a selection bias firstly secondly they plant these people into the industry not on merit but on looks first and foremost to attract the primitive people into buying the music. its always been like that.
Damn. Marc Lamont Hil, a black guy, completely dog walking Destiny, an Ashkenazi Jew, in a debate.
The only reason Destiny is inclined to side with Israel is because ethnocentrism.
In full: Trump and Musk meet South African president in Oval Office
AHAHAHAHA
He did it again. He trolled the blacks. It was fuckin hilarious watching the media sit through Trumps white genocide presentation hahahaha
Pill has the lowest social IQ of anyone in the history of this blog. It never occurs to pill that Trump is just pandering to his Zionist masters by accusing of genocide the very country that charged Bibi of this. Pill is so easily fooled because not only does he have no Theory of Mind, he has no mind at all.
“It never occurs to pill that Trump is just pandering to his Zionist masters by accusing of genocide the very country that charged Bibi of this.”
That’s actually an interesting connection.
Social Intelligence rock bottom as usual. Its obviously Elon who asked Trump to confront Ramphosa. Bibi couldn’t give a shit about white genocide. Hes actually for it.
Bibi couldn’t give a shit about white genocide
But he does give a shit about discrediting the country that charged him with genocide & what better way to do that then to accuse them of genocide? And Trump too has a vested interest since he’s given Bibi carte blanche.
You’re so stupid, pill.
Disagree completely. This is Elon. The white refugee stuff. The neocons actually hate that.
Whites are NOT being genocided in South Africa you gullible mark; just another one of Trump’s lies to animate his racist base and distract them from the fact that he’s robbing them of government benefits so he can give Elon and Peter Thiel and his own greedy ass another tax cut, and just more pandering to his Zionists fans who hate South Africa with a passion for accusing Bibi of genocide. It’s so obvious, Trump has gone after all non-whites who have attacked Israel because it’s a way of appealing to both his white nationalist fans and his Zionists fans at the same time.
I mean, it’s just obvious.
Geopolitics is far more often determined by cold rationality than active hatred. When politicians pretend to be emotionally invested in something, it is to court public interest and foment fervor. This whole game of whataboutism was also played between the various sides of the Yugoslav wars. Difference is, despite NATO’s vested interest in promoting breakaway states (contrary to popular opinion, this has relatively little to do with Serbia being less culturally or politically “Western” and more to do with wanting a divided Yugo region), it was fine back then to indict the odd Bosniak or Croat. Because the mediators weren’t so tied to the interests of the parties.
Netanyahu wants his arrest warrant removed. He wants SA to look hypocritical.
I’ve changed me mind again. Trump is now an A for his presidency.
Can’t even look him in the eye. What a coward. He has that lizard brain that allows him to lie on command.
like lying that destiny is a jew.
sad.
Holy shit you might be right. I just assumed he was Jewish because of the scrawny body, big nose, high VIQ, Pro-Israel position, and psychopathy.
But I can’t actually find proof that he is.
See what you guys are doing to me?
Holy shit you might be right. I just assumed he was Jewish because of the scrawny body, big nose, high VIQ, Pro-Israel position, and psychopathy.
Woah! Youre admitting HBD??
This is more surreal than even the Zelensky press conference. I can’t believe Im seeing this.