By equating polygenic Z scores for education to the IQ scale (mean white score = 100; SD = 15) I was able to tenatively assign very rough “genetic” IQs to 11 populations and a very clear pattern emerges. Those with cold climate ancestry (Mongoloids) average higher IQs than those with temperate climate ancestry (Caucasoids) who in turn average higher IQs than those with tropical ancestry (Negroids).
But within each broad climate category, those who made the neolithic transition average much higher IQs than those who generally remained hunter/gatherers.
So the selection pressures of going from the tropics to Northern Siberia added up to 15 points to genetic IQ on average, but then transitioning to agriculture and subsequent civilization added up to another 20 IQ points.
This makes sense because after 25 million years living as tropical hunter-gatherers, leaving the tropics and adopting agriculture each would have selected for enormous adaptability.
This helps explains why despite our species being a few hundred thousand years old, we didn’t discover agriculture until 10,000 years ago, didn’t invent civilization until a few thousand years ago, and didn’t start the industrial revolution until a few hundred years ago. We were waiting for the IQ points
Rushton writes:
| Agriculture ancestry | Hunter/Gatherer ancestry | |
| MONGOLOIDS | East Asians IQ 105 | Native Americans IQ 85 |
| CAUCASOIDS | Ashkenazi Jews IQ 105 Whites IQ 100  South Asians IQ 95  Arabs IQ 90  | Cro-Magnon IQ 80 |
| NEGROIDS | Bantu IQ 80 | Pygmies IQ 80 Australian aboriginal IQ 70  Bushman IQ 70  |
Pumpkin Person 
I feel like Cro magnon was more intelligent than Bantu.
You could be right. And in the past I’ve argued they were but in this article I calculated all IQs from polygenic education scores.
pill needs to be banned for being a jew.
He should be banned for what he does, not for what he is. Learn the correct morality.
and SUPER JEWY shit coming from peepee.
BECAUSE CAN’T SPEAK ENGLISH? OR BECAUSE MOSSAD AGENT?
“being a jew” has multiple senses.
Technically you’re right, but choose your words more carefully. I don’t want even the appearance of the incorrect morality.
Haha,
Mugabe uses words in an unconventional manner and then berates people for not understanding his stupid way of talking.
He’s like RR, but dumb.
“stupid pipo think rr is not dumb.” — chris langan impersonation
Also, the reason Humans took so long to do agriculture is far more multi-faceted and complex than, “they were just too dumb.”
IQ has little to no effect on it.
So why did humans suddenly invent agriculture several independent times the second the holocene started, but never once in the previous 200,000 years?
Well first, it didn’t happen suddenly. It was a long and gradual process before we got to what we now know as farming. HGs would sometimes just throw seeds on the ground, hunt and forage the other half of the year, and then come back to reap the benefits.
Moreover, the Holocene began when the last ice age ended, which made it WAY easier for agriculture to be a viable alternative to hunter-gathering. Agriculture was extremely risky, and when it was finally utilized it’s not like it just popped up everywhere, it was only used by few groups of people in locations that had very specific environmental conditions.
I’m not saying there isn’t a baseline of intelligence required to invent farming. I don’t know if Homo Erectus would have been capable of it or not, but IQ just simply doesn’t cut it when it comes to Homo Sapiens.
Why do you keep saying blacks are IQ 80? Thats empirically false. Lynn found them to be around 60.
I have estimated 60 based on the fact that elite blacks in the US are 80.
Stop spreading disinformation to people.
And youre jewish estimate…thats about an SD too low. Why are you making up stuff?
If the gap between blacks and ash jews was only an SD….then why is average jewish income 1000 times larger than an african?
Youre so ridiculous and shameless with this religious agenda.
Why do you keep saying blacks are IQ 80? Thats empirically false. Lynn found them to be around 60.
No he found them to be 67 in Africa, but because unmixed blacks in the U.S. were 80, he believed third world nutrition was subtracting 13 points. I am describing GENETIC IQ, so I list 80.
I have estimated 60 based on the fact that elite blacks in the US are 80
Blacks in the U.S. are virtually all descended from slaves so if anything the ones who remained in Africa are more elite.
And youre jewish estimate…thats about an SD too low. Why are you making up stuff?
Jews average IQ 110 but their genetic education scores equate to more like 105. The high Jewish IQ might not be entirely genetic
If the gap between blacks and ash jews was only an SD….then why is average jewish income 1000 times larger than an african?
Jewish income is probably driven by their verbal IQ which is much higher than even their overall IQ
Why is Arab genetic IQ 90? Especially considering that their Middle Eastern forebears created civilisation and agriculture.
What do you think their true genetic IQ is? If you correct for living standards etc.
These are genetic scores though very crude ones. There phenotypic IQs are lower; only 84.
Yes they were the first to develop agriculture and civilization, but that was partly because the Middle East was in the goldilocks zone. Cold enough to evolve some intelligence, yet still warm enough to easily farm. It was also the middle of the World, so all cultures had to pass through it so they heard all the good ideas.
But since developing the first civilization, the Arabs have been greatly outdistanced by whites, East Asians, and Ashkenazi Jews, so you have to consider the TOTALITY of their historical accomplishments, not jut the very early ones.
I’m curious about Levantine Arabs who are almost isomorphic to Southern Europeans genetically. Would their mean IQ be closer to Southern Euros?
As for your response, for all intents and purposes NW Europeans were living in the stone-age 2000 years ago while The Hellenes and Phoenicians flourished.
I’m not convinced that the difference in IQ say between Mediterranean people and NW Euros is genetic in origin.
I agree that the Arabs have been surpassed by the races you mention – I think thats incontestable.
I can’t help but think that cousin marriages are to blame for the most part. I suspect their genetic IQ is closer to 95.
As for South Asians having a higher mean IQ than Arabs genotypically, I doubt it. On balance, the contributions of the entirety of the South Asian genus are inconsequential relative to MENA people who created the three Abrahamic religions and furthered human thought to a noteworthy degree during the Islamic Golden Age.
No doubt there’s since been a massive decline.
Talk “genotypic IQ” is nonsense, since the SNP correlations are pathetically low—and the best part is that we know that “European genetic variants” have similar “effects” in all populations. Devestating for “HBD.”
Talk “genotypic IQ” is nonsense, since the SNP correlations are pathetically low
Pathetically low for predicting the IQs of INDIVIDUALS, but near perfect for predicting the IQs of entire populations.
Wicherts et al: “Lynn’s methods in selecting samples remain unsystematic; he is inconsistent in his reasons to exclude samples, and too unspecific to allow replication by independent raters.”
Wicherts et al go on to say that Lynn rejected a sample since it was comprised of immigrants but then go and use a study of… Immigrants. Lynn quite obviously wasn’t consistent with his methodology, and when it was rectified, African IQ was found to be in the low 80s. Basically Lynn’s inclusion/exclusion criteria was faulty.
Wicherts must have autism. Blacks born in third world Africa are not going to score as high as unmixed blacks in the U.S.. He’s basically arguing that environment has NO effect and he’s supposed to be anti-HBD.
Here are the references for my previous claim on “European genetic variants.”
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.08.08.552281v1
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41588-023-01338-6
By the way, the correct inference to draw from the 2 studies above is that claims that “European variants” in black Americans are why their IQ is higher than black Africans are false.
Matt
Arabs and MENAs have contributed very, very little to civilization as a whole, especially compared to South Asians. Lots of tech stuff, inventions, innovations, whatever.
The Golden Age thing is a myth, it was just them translating stuff from other parts of the world. It’s also just cope by Islamists for the most part anyways.
Them being lower IQ than South Asians is completely logical and expected. It would be odd if it was the other way around. In fact, it would be totally ridiculous
“Pathetically low for predicting the IQs of INDIVIDUALS, but near perfect for predicting the IQs of entire populations.”
Using Lynn’s “data”, right? Why can’t we “predict IQ” of individuals with these data? Pop strat, of course, continues to rear its head.
“He’s basically arguing”
He argued that Lynn was a bullshitter who cherry-picked data to cohere with his a priori beliefs.
But unmixed blacks aren’t 80. Stop saying that. The blacks in africa have no significant nutrition issues outside of those famine areas in east africa where they are so dumb they can’t even feed themselves.
Kevin McDonald said ash jew iq is 115. These genetic IQ tests are severely experimental at this stage. What about you just go with real IQ testing and stop cherry picking data. Nobody in the entire HBD community thinks the gap between ash jews and blacks is only 1.5 SDs. Nobody. Not even Melo and RR would say that.
ash jews being 115 is bs. 100-105 is accurate
but yes unmixed subsaharans as a whole can NOT average 80.
Puppy says such outrageous stuff every week I actually get angry reading it. With the NYT/CNN its just trolling people like MElo/RR and its kind of funny I guess, but Puppy is just a religious nut who really believes this stuff.
cold winter theory is cope IMO
French nibbas have achieved a hella lot more than Belarussians or whatever
Also, Inuit nibbas are smart but not the smartest in the world
95 IQ might be a BIT too high for South Asia as a whole. Some ethnic groups are plain braindead lmao, trust me on this.
Given that Arabs or their Middle Eastern descendants, in a sense, created civilisation and discovered/pioneered agriculture, why is their genotypic IQ only 90? Is it because of consanguineous marriages?
What do you think their genetic IQ would be were it not for cousin marriages? IME some are freakishly smart, others emotional and dull.
I meant ancestors – apologies.
Why is Arab IQ only 90? And what would you say their genotypic IQ would be if weren’t for consanguineous marriages?
Poly genetics scores only show recent population scores with small samples of 8 billion people on the planet. Things were different 6 thousand years ago when pressures were harder. Education is a specific form of intelligence. We don’t measure all intelligence (50%) like visual edetic they would have back then. And as people have need saying poly scores are experimental.
Still it would be interesting to get my poly score done. Do you know where?
the thought police don’t care about such distinctions peepee.
jews AS A GROUP are a YUGE problem.
peepee: but i have a crush on max blumenthal.
you’re being immature and stupid and girly.
the thought police don’t care
Integrity is when you do the right thing whether people care or not.
but you’re not running for president peepee.
my point is you should try to take in every “side” as if it were a facet of the jewel that is the truth.
there are pipo who are just stupid. there are pipo who are just evil. for example melo and rr.
but if anyone has become famous as an advocate for a particular ideology he probably isn’t either.
does he really believe what he’s saying? does he even know what he’s saying? these should be the questions.
nazism and bolshevism had a heart. really. perhaps unfortunately. but really.
therefore calling pipo nazis and commies is against the irresistible force of the weltgeist.
just like RICH PIPO AS A GROUP are a YUGE problem.
when any small minority has so much power this means the people are effectively disenfranchised.
rich jews and rich gentiles have overlapping but NOT identical politics and interests.
why has melo never bitched about how ethnic chinese control the economy of the philippines?
BECAUSE (((BRAINWASHED)))!
and that’s not only because they’re jews. or not directly.
rich jews and rich gentiles do not get rich in the same way.
jew: yeah. rich goyim inherit.
mugabe: excluding all heirs, many of whom are jews.
jew: anti-semite!
mugabe: finance, media, fashion, and other bullshit jews are WAY more than 36% of the forbes 400. more like 90%. and i include real estate development in finance but i do not include construction cos in real estate development. look it up in forbes if you don’t believe me. it’s all out int he open. public. no secret. the only retort i can imagine is: those ways of making a fortune require a higher IQ, or something like that. simplot is a simpleton. all he did was grow taters. etc..
To be fair making money in finance does require higher IQ than making money in say, furniture sales or car manufacturing.
At least making money, in the easiest way without ‘hard work’.
But Mugabe has made this great point before about how jews are weirdly absent from all heavy and light industry. It would be very interesting if jews are common in the ‘defence’ industry (outside of israel).
I know of some jewish arms dealers but talking more about the industrial and logistics sides.
“why has melo never bitched about how ethnic chinese control the economy of the philippines?“
I don’t pay attention to what happens in the Philippines because I’m not a slave to my EGI. I’m incredibly white-washed.
I think the overrepresentation of Jews in power is bad, but I also don’t think there’s a white genocide conspiracy.
“retarded pipo think other retarded pipo are smart and smart pipo are retarded.” — chris langan impersonation
also called the dunning-kruger as fuck effect. melo is the most racist commenter except for peepee.
Bantu IQ being at 80 IQ is too high
No it’s not. African Americans average IQ 85, and they’re 25% white, so you’d expect pure Bantu to score 80. Of course in reality they score 67 but that’s only because Third World malnutrion shaves 13 points from one’s genetic potential.
That math is too perfect to be accurate. You can’t just assume that’s how it will line up in reality.
70-75 makes more sense
60-70 makes even more sense
“That math is too perfect to be accurate. You can’t just assume that’s how it will line up in reality.”
PP just assumes X holds and then goes off that assumption, without showing that the assumption holds (it’s like that with twin assumptions).
TP you’re an idiot. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Just to make everyone aware blacks never invented written language or the wheel. Until the europeans came, they walked around butt naked.
Was there anything technically wrong with my comment as to why it was not approved pumpkin person? Please critique.
No, I meant to approve it and have done so now.
If I say jews are smarter than whites, mugabe loses his shit. If I say whites are smarter than blacks the religious people here lose their shit.
South Asians are darker than Arabs. Why would they have higher IQs?
That is a very good question and the answer is cousin marriage depressed Muslim IQs.
tb fair I find it weird that just because youve given me a platform I have 2 be grateful 4 using it!