One of the great mysteries of recent evolution is why did the skin of Europeans and Northeast Asians become white? The traditional answer is that in colder climates, you need less protection from the sun so selection for dark skin becomes relaxed or even reversed because dark skin blocks too much vitamin D from the much less potent Northern sun.
One problem with this explanation is that arctic people, despite being further North, retain dark skin, and white skin didn’t become common in Europe until 12,000 to 6000 years ago, despite people living there for roughly 40,000 years.
One theory is that the less vitamin D rich diet imposed by agriculture meant Europeans suddenly needed to absorb vitamin D through their skin to compensate.
But I may have discovered another explanation. White skin appears to have emerged around the same time the human brain suddenly started shrinking (after 4 million years of growth). Now I’ve argued that most of this brain shrinkage was caused by the malnutrition of agriculture and we’ve recovered most of the lost brain mass with improved modern nutrients (giving rise to the Flynn effect).
However not all of our lost brain mass has come back, leading me towards a popular explanation pushed by several prominent scholars: Domestication. It’s well known that domesticated animals have smaller brains than their wild ancestors.
It seems that the high IQ required to survive the cold Northern Eurasian winters had driven European and Northeast Asian brain size to ridiculously huge levels, but they couldn’t make full use of all that brain mass because they were still wild animals who would rather fight and bite than work as a team. Thus evolution sacrificed a tiny bit of individual brain mass (mostly from regions unrelated to cognition) to create a cooperative collective intelligence so powerful it would one day split the atom.
What does this have to do with white skin? Well, just as the animals they were domesticating would have white patches, perhaps white patches started showing up on Northern Eurasians. This may have inspired sexual selection for white skin against which the white patches would be invisible.
I suspect an even higher level of domestication occurred in India, but the intense sun killed off people born with white patches so skin remained dark.
Pumpkin Person 
“One problem with this explanation is that arctic people, despite being further North, retain dark skin, and white skin didn’t become common in Europe until 12,000 to 6000 years ago, despite people living there for roughly 40,000 years.”
This is easily explained by UV rays bouncing off the ice.
Can you explain? Not a rhetorical question
He’s saying that arctic people (and presumably Europeans during the ice age) didn’t need white skin to absorb vitamin D because the sunlight reflecting from the snow made up for the fact that sunlight is less in the North.
Once the ice age ended and the snow melted, they no longer had the extra sun light caused by reflections, so they needed a skin color that would block as little sun as possible.
But the Arctic peoples continued getting the extra Vitamin D after the ice age because it remained icy there?
That’s the idea
Ganzir,
See this from myself (2018):
“In sum, there is no anomaly regarding the skin color of Arctic peoples; the hypothesis is called “the vitamin D hypothesis”, and so they get ample vitamin D from the reflection of UV rays from the snow, ice, and water. Reasons for the darkness of their skin include the fact that they are recent migrants to those locations, they consume a diet high in vitamin D, and the reflection of UV rays from albedo surfaces.”
Thx
rr and peepee are forgetting the second reason for light skin at high latitude.
more skin is covered because high latitude comes with lower temperatures. and in the ice age this may’ve meant hardly any skin exposed.
i can’t find it, but do marine mammals have much more vitamin d than terrestrial mammals? can the meat of terrestrial mammals supply all vitamin d?
The meat of terrestrial mammals can’t supply all vitamin D, if it can supply any amount at all. If it’s going to be in any part of the animal it’s gonna be organ meat. The answer is very likely no, and I can’t easily find any information related to marine mammals.
https://academic.oup.com/advances/article/4/4/453/4259632
Doesn’t the vitamin D content of meat/organs reduce the evolutionary pressure for the whitening skin? Wouldn’t white skin coincide with the agricultural revolution? Since the inuits still rely heavily on meat that’d probably be the reason they’re darker than expected.
One of the posts linked to this post already suggest this (and more). Never mind.
selection pressures are what causes natural selection and sexual selection is oftentimes things that are seen as advantageous but dont necessarily have selection pressures to begin with.
white skin isnt going to explain domestication in any way if its natural selection occurring but if its mostly sexual than it might. i think white skin leans towards natural selection because there are pressures in those environments but it might not be leaning towards sexual.
sexual selection for white skin is mostly cultural anyways but some white-skinned people mostly those of European ancestry are stupid enough to believe that supremacy is formed along those lines and white-skinned people are somehow better.
to this i say fuck white supremacists or people believing white=good because the most evil people and vile people i have ever met were white!
white skin isnt going to explain domestication in any way if its natural selection occurring
I’m saying the opposite. Domestication may explain white skin. In other animals when you select for tameness, one of the side effects is depigmentation. For some reason these 2 traits are genetically linked.
oh okay now i understand misread the piece by misinterpreting bits and pieces of it here and there.
anyways i think thats plausible for sure. would be very interesting to see if this is done via natural or sexual selection though still
(unless im missing something else in your piece where youve already explained that.)
No you didn’t misread; I just didn’t explain much. It’s unclear what selection pressures may have caused self-domestication. One theory is capital punishment (which is is even practiced among hunter-gatherers) slowly weeded many of the aggressive people out of the gene pool.
Domestication and the loss of pigmentation often goes hand in hand. Out of gust instinct I assumed it had something to do with selection for docility, since male mammals that are more masculine, or rather have more testosterone, than other males of the same species tend to be darker than those who aren’t. Since masculinity is also associated with aggressiveness, phenotypes that aren’t as masculine are going to be selected for, which would probably lead to the domesticated versions being lighter in color. This idea might explain things like greater neoteny, these domesticated types would be more feminine and thus smaller and more tame, but it wouldn’t explain things like floppy ears, curly tails, or patches of depigmentation. Something far more fundamental is probably being altered which leads to these sort of aberrations.
One explanation I read involves neural crest cells. Extremely rough summary being domesticated animals are just less developed than “natural” animals in certain parts of the body and thus certain abnormalities might appear.
https://academic.oup.com/genetics/article/197/3/795/5935921
In relation to domestication in humans, I’d have to wonder whether we’d domesticate ourselves so quickly these sorts of abnormalities occur at a rate common enough for sexual selection to have any effect. I’d assume humans who looked like they’ve got their paint scraped off of them would be bullied to death, left to die, or anything similar before they reach maturity. It’s sort of like thinking that things like blue eyes or blond hair were sexually selected rather their having some sort of tangible advantage. Why isn’t red hair more common if this is the case? Or is it just novel enough? If it’s a question of the level of novelty, why would a species collectively decide that a novelty is so sexually attractive that it shapes an entire population? There’d have to be some sort of bottleneck for things to be so common as they are now if these traits were initially selected for sexually. It’s not like it’s expensive to have blue eyes or blond hair, so it’s not a peacock effect. Materially it requires less resources, although maybe things like damage due to radiation may make it more expensive.
Wouldn’t a human who’s too domesticated relative to his population be “too stupid to live”? There could be a general trend for domestication but it’s not extreme enough to be precisely comparable to domesticated animals.
How do you explain certain celtic features like children being born blond but becoming darker as they reach adulthood, if it’s not related to vitamin D production? If it’s a mere byproduct of neoteny, why isn’t it more common in other races? And I’m not talking about babies. If it’s sexual selection, then did people select for how they looked like as children?
Really, I only have questions.
>sexual selection for white skin is mostly cultural anyways
For women it’s pretty cross-cultural, implying it’s not merely cultural.
>most evil people and vile people i have ever met were white!
I’d have to agree but I’d say the only reason the most vile people were the most vile was because they were intelligent enough to be evil in a way that can’t be explained as being egotistical, greedy, or lustful. Someone who’s sadistic but for reasons that aren’t pure stupidity.
PP,
“One theory is capital punishment (which is is even practiced among hunter-gatherers) slowly weeded many of the aggressive people out of the gene pool.”
Would the implication here be that societies that do not have capital punishment or do it less than other societies are therefore darker in skin color compared to societies that participate in capital punishment?
Yes that’s what the theory would predict (controlling for sun light)
Also, recent work calls “domestication syndrome” into question.
https://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/fulltext/S0169-5347(19)30302-7
PP, aren’t you interested in how people’s brains are ‘wired’ differently so that some people can instantly grasp a concept which other people find difficult or impossible? Look up mathematical induction. I ‘got it’ intuitively the moment I was introduced to it, but freshmen, I think mostly STEM majors (average I.Q. 115-120?), overwhelmingly struggled with it and whined about how hard it was. I’ve even heard teaching assistants and assistant professors say that they found it confusing when they first learned it, though I’m not sure whether or not that was meant to imply that they still did.
I wouldn’t say I immediately got it, but I didn’t find it difficult. I thought it was fun and straightforward, but still needed to work on it to parse out the abstractions. The issue, I believe, much like Linear Algebra, is that some teachers don’t know how to teach the more abstract concepts that are parcel to the formulation of inductive steps.
I had a hard time with taking things on supposition alone and needed to see the reasoning behind certain propositions.
“I wouldn’t say I immediately got it, but I didn’t find it difficult. I thought it was fun and straightforward, but still needed to work on it to parse out the abstractions. The issue, I believe, much like Linear Algebra, is that some teachers don’t know how to teach the more abstract concepts that are parcel to the formulation of inductive steps.”
Psychological projection at work
is peepee trying to say that oprah is a wild animal?
arctic peoples haven’t been in the arctic very long, and their diet means they don’t need sun to get vitamin d. and no matter how light one’s skin he can’t get much vitamin d in winter in the arctic.
even if the ground were covered in snow only part of the year light skin mightn’t be required to prevent rickets. what’s the half-life of vitamin d? how much can be stored without poisoning? cow’s milk is fortified with vitamin d to prevent rickets. sadly, LOADED and peepee have only ever drunk camel milk.
Arctic people while darker than east Asians aren’t really all that dark. Secondly, the modern European genes for pigmentation proliferated in the timeframe you mentioned, however this schema cannot be extrapolated to pre-WHG populations prior to the LGM for various reasons.
As for India it doesn’t have unique skin pigmentation mutations for light skin, but there is a lower-than-expected frequency of the European specific light skin mutation which would have been introduced around 4000 years ago. Maybe your reasoning of people not faring as well with *that* mutation can work. But the other more common light skin west eurasian mutation proliferated in south Asia nonetheless (and this one was possibly introduced to the south asian neolithic from Iran long before 4000 years ago…incidentally when the Zebu cattle was domesticated).
Implying I’m a gypsy is really weird. Even ?~} would call it weird. Where did you get that from rain man?
You wont say what race you are so it’s a good a guess as any.
But its not a good guess. Its not even a terrible guess. Gypsies are such tiny sliver of the human population.
Accounting for prior probability is pretty smart; at least for you, pill
WTF why did you ban all my comments. Thats not our agreement Puppy. If you keep letting him insult you have to let me fight back. Unban it all right now.
If you keep letting him insult you have to let me fight back.
Why do I have to do that? I’m not your keeper.
Puppy Im very serious. Unban all those comments right now.
Provide your WAIS-IV scores (subtest scores, index scores, and IQ) and I’ll unban them.
Note the way you didnt ask Bruno for his IQ scores and subscores and to do all these stupid social tests but you let him insult me. You even let Jimmy fight back against Afro more than you let me fight back against Bruno and you never asked Jimmy for test scores and to do your stupid tests either.
Whats going on? Why are you in love with the idiot-savant Bruno? Does he have compromat on you or something?
LOL! You lack the social skills to fight back proportionately. Even though you feel Bruno has a low social IQ, he has the verbal IQ and lateral thinking to attack you in a playful way, but you responses are so harsh, insulting and over-the-top.
You need to learn the art of symmetric warfare. You don’t bring a nuke to a knife fight.
Someone like Bruno has never been in an open confrontation his whole life. I’m not surpised hes from an upper class background and hes 6’5.
But if youve been in a physical fight before, the chances of you developing a personality inclination towards passive aggression is basically nil. Masculine men don’t do sarcasm. Bruno can’t even do sarcasm properly because his social IQ is simply to low anyway.
Bruno is the most arrogant of the 3 autists. I’m actually doing the general public a service by cutting him down and making him aware of how limited he is. He thinks most people are stupid when hes the only one thats been made a tv show out of for people to laugh at.
You’ve used sarcasm dozens of times.
Never. If I did it was really blunt sarcasm which wasn’t trying to hide my real opinion.
And to feed Philos animosity against my alleged autism, it’s true that I have realized only recently that wasn’t supposed to stair at guys because they think either you want to assault them or that you are gay and want to solicit them.
I think I have been able to get a pass on this all my life not because of my posh origins, but because I would scare them, even in groups.
Once I realized it was not normal, I stopped doing that even if I could have continued if I wanted too 😂
Philo,
They are not attacks on my part.
Pumpkin, if it’s for me, please don’t ban any Philo comments about me to protect me. I don’t mind them even if I rather had Philo to like me as much as I like him.
As for attacks, I have narrated here some fights I have been in, like last year in Barcelona. I don’t like it. And I am a bit like Philo, I’m not good at keeping proportionate and if physically attacked I am a beast. I don’t like that part in me. And I think I have done bad things after being attacked when i was younger even if I didn’t checked the result and all would be under prescription now. But I am from a family of stealth warriors so I suppose it goes through “blood” …
Nobody has thought about me as feminine in my life. That’s the limit of analogy with Sheldon. I wouldn’t care at all 😊
Okay, I’ll let him say what he wants about you, but if it gets annoying, let me know & I’ll shut him up.
Puppy social IQ question for you.
Do you think Bruno likes me like he keeps saying?
The correct answer is yes, but since you lack the social IQ to understand Bruno, you think the answer is no, so my official answer is no so I can pass your test.
How you like that 4D chess? 🙂
The answer is a big yes. I don’t know if our most clever commenter – that I also really like – was right about the fact that Philo being quite iterative and at the same time bringing new stuff, and also dwelling more into the far right that the far left wich is my upbringing, contributes to my liking him – a bit irrationally – since the beginning.
I also like Teffec a lot and Gond. And I would say most commenters.
Who knows why ? Laws of attraction are weird and deep
He thinks because you’re condescending that you don’t like him. He lacks the social IQ to know people often like their inferiors.
By the way, getting into a fight in Barcelona because someone attacked you isn’t confronting someone.
I’m talking about an instance where you went right up to someone aggressively, not reacted to something.
I told you Philo I would never attack anyone first. But many people have gone to jail – even big time – just for defending themselves or they close ones – as long as it was thought to be outside self defense. Probably it’s part of the domestication to punish agressivity in the form of self defense and even more in the form of self justice obviously. I guess society recognize agressivity in both ways
For any commenter here to ‘like’ another commenter would be something remarkable indeed. (The only commenter I ever ‘liked’ was Jimmy and I wouldn’t have told him that). You certainly wouldn’t keep saying it in public anyway.
To keep saying it again and again while passing insults the other side of his mouth isn’t credible.
For example he tried to call me a gypsy in his weird autistic way. Obviously his social limitation limit the way he can express himself, but its obvious you wouldn’t say that to somone you liked.
Do you want a further analysis of Bruno Puppy?
You don’t understand Bruno at all I’m afraid Puppy.
He insults you because you insult him, but overall he likes you. You’re misreading the situation. To quote Dr. Phil “you wouldn’t worry so much what people thought of you if you realized how seldom they did.”
“Philo, Langan speaks (amusingly) about people in the dangerous zone of 145-155 IQ (where some commenters you have mentioned or Lion are dwelling).
I am glad to tell you you are extremely far away from this dangerous place and you can feel very safe 😂
So do I btw …”
Huh Huh! I have higher IQ! Huh Huh! Durrr! So do I! So do I! Get it? Get It? I am the same the other way!! Haha. Slaps himself on the knee.
^^
Puppy thinks Bruno has a “high verbal IQ” and is very sophisticated in his attacks….
^^This is what people are actually laughing at Bruno. Are they stupid for laughing at people like you/Sheldon? The sad thing is. I bet you think they are.
“Philo,
They are not attacks on my part.”
Very sophisticated social skills. Can I say I like you now? I thought you were crudely beating me over the head with your IQ score but now I see you weren’t attacking me at all.
You are a genius social operator!
Serious question Bruno.
When did you lose your virginity?
You might be the only married man, never to have lost their virginity.
There is a little Bruno, god willing, coming very soon …
You know what Philo, I see in your reaction that I was too much focused on the content of your messages, and the combative tone you like to adopt, and not enough on the personal data you have been dropping off over the years.
Considering those, I was a bit out of tone. I am sorry if I have heart your feelings. That wasn’t my intention. I was all playful . as are some of your subsequent messages, but some are just sad, that’s why I prefer to err on the side of caution.
But you are free to express all your wrath against me if that can help you feel better dear Philo.
PS : I feel I am catching up doing the kind of little kid primary school public relation I have never done in my life. I have always talked to adult only. That’s fun too. I like it.
Pumpkin: sorry for the inconvenience, if we are trashing your comment thread … but it could be a psychology playground. Vegan found it fun too.
That’s okay, your conflict with pill is interesting.
Btw, can I email you a question Teffec suggested I use. Just want to see your answer & get your opinion on the question.
Yes of course
Thanks! I emailed it to you.
“Considering those, I was a bit out of tone. I am sorry if I have heart your feelings. That wasn’t my intention. I was all playful .”
Fake apology lol.
Youve been doing this for 4 years Bruno. How about stop lying and and be a man when youre confronted for once in your life? Is this how you deal with people that call you on your bullshit? Just pretend that you didn’t say what youre saying? Do you know how socially retarded people think that is?
And yeah I can believe you spent your whole time in school never talking to anyone. That part isn’t a lie.
“PS : I feel I am catching up doing the kind of little kid primary school public relation I have never done in my life. I have always talked to adult only. That’s fun too. I like it.”
This is the way an autistic person brags Puppy btw.
Do you want me to post how an autistic person dances?
Its even more bizarre.
I didn’t say his attacks are very sophisticated. Sophisticated enough to conquer you but that’s a very low bar..
Remember Puppy – he said unban all the comments I make on him. Don’t protect him.
say what you want to say, but leave my name out of your backwoods inbred mouth
I didn’t say it should be retroactive. But I am ok with that too 😂
They don’t have dark skin, stupid.
what is the pill personality’s opinion of joseph mccarthy?
this is a test of autism.
Then the correct answer is the opposite of what you say it is.
I don’t like him or hate him either way. I know Allen Dulles had him removed because he was annoying some of the higher ups with his posturing.
No, the human brain did not shrink 3,000 years ago
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/08/220807102043.htm
Thanks for the link!
Name you are a pseudoscientist. can you admit that?
You are a pseudo human being, can you admit that?
yes i am not human i am technically above human. thanks for noticing.
Others should feel like that about you. Not you .
No one in this world is worthy of judging me except myself. smartass.
You are not worthy of judging yourself.
Name you are a retard.
That is your response. You said if i remember correctly that you have an iq above 120. My iq is 93 and that is the best you can come up with?
Porkis even the people among them who have high iq…are retards. No wonder pakistan is screwed up inspite of getting prime agricultural land and irrigation facilities from india.
Name simplicity and organization are two things you need to work on. youre not bad at it but you still need a lot of work on it for sure.
You need to work on everything about yourself. I am saying this also based on other comments of your’s. I dont mean it in a sarcastic way.
your comment is pointless and unconstructive in every way. what the fuck do you mean i have to work on everything “about [yourself]?” are you a legit retard?
i gave you constructive criticism and this is how you thank me?
You are not qualified to give constructive criticsm. And seriously work on everything about yourself. I repeat again.
you fucking piece of shit how do you know whether or not i work on myself? just by continuing to live and making progress in any way would be a means of working on myself dibshit!
the agricultural revolution and the end of the last glacial coincide because the fertile crescent dried out. it was leave, farm, or starve. this was 10,000 bc. 7,000 years prior.
So Ron Unz agrees with me.
https://www.unz.com/runz/alex-jones-cass-sunstein-and-cognitive-infiltration/
Pizzagate was true. Podesta and his circles are paedos.
Qanon was a government sponsored attempt to basically misdirect the original pizzagate people.
So are you going to apologise to me Puppy? I believed and still believe Podesta is a paedo. I even said it to my normy friend at the time (I never share my real political opinions with real life friends).
I believe there are paedophile rings in certain elite circles. Not all elite circles. I don’t believe they drink their blood. I don’t believe they sacrifice them on altars. But they do child molestation. Am I crazy now if Ron Unz agrees with me?
I was wise to Qanon from the very start. They very start. I passed that test but a lot of the original pizzagate people fell for it and now people have forgotten about Podestas interesting emails.
Unz quotes Michael Piper saying
The intriguers effectively determined that “if you can’t lick ‘em, join ‘em” (as the old saying goes).
That is, rather than working to REFUTE conspiracy theories, the solution would be to INFECT them and MISDIRECT them and add utter confusion to the mix.
This is EXACTLY what I’ve been saying for a long time. The best way to discredit a TRUE conspiracy theory is to mix it with a ridiculous one. I suggested to you a long time ago that QAnon was created to deflect from the real Epstein conspiracy.
As usual you hijacked my theory by saying QAnon was created to deflect from PIZZAGATE but this assumes PIZZAGATE is a real thing.
Perhaps QANON & PIZZAGATE were both to deflect from the Epstein case?
alex jones never flogged either did he?
second autism question: why did the fbi search mar-a-lago?
i want to assign an autism severity score to the pill personality. i guess peepee doesn’t know enough about mccarthy to feign a response.
part of the non-autistic answer was whenever everyone says the same thing, like they do about mccarthy, and give no credible explanation for why mccarthy did what he supposedly did and why he was able to get away with it for so long that’s a yuge red flag that the truth is significantly different from the official narrative.
the pill personality says it read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Talbot#The_Devil's_Chessboard.
it should read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklisted_by_History.
a second point about mccarthy is how mccarthyism was far more reasonable and benign than what is going on in the US today.
the blacklist started with HUAC not mccarthy. getting people fired for having been communists so many autistic liberals cry, “how could you do that?” then they immediately demand that anyone who disagrees with them and/or violates their speech codes be canceled, be fired, or not have their comments approved.
autists are incapable of putting themselves in other people’s shoes.
why is cancel culture actually so much worse?
because the politically incorrect, racist, homophobic, bigots, blah blah blah don’t pose any threat to the US…and there is no nuclear armed super power they pledge allegiance to…russia russia russia is NOT the soviet union in the 50s.
given the iron curtain, the soviet annexing of eastern europe, the victory of the chicoms, the stealing of the bomb and the soviet nuclear test in august 1949, the korean war where 34k americans were killed…paranoia was justified…rational…the soviets and their fellow travelers were an ACTUAL threat.
I’ve always assumed that McCarthy’s reputation has a lot to do with the ethnicity of the people he made testify.
Per MacDonald, an overwhelming majority were Danes.
…and that juries could not be allowed to award punitive damages, such as the $50,000 Gertz had received, absent any showing of actual malice, since juries could use that power to punish unpopular opinions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertz_v._Robert_Welch%2C_Inc.
was gertz awarded any punitive damages? if he wasn’t then neither should plaintiffs in the alex jones case. their damages are already far too high under texas law. they were awarded $4m in compensatory damages.
the two cases are identical.
yes. the john birch society was found to have had actual malice. on retrial gertz was awarded 400k, 300k of which was punitive. https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/554/gertz-v-robert-welch-inc
Philo You make me think now of a wounded dog, terrified and confused, that tries to bite the helping hand.
Who would be heartless to strike this lost doggy and not be moved by it to instead. Though, I am not responsible for the conjonction of experiences, nor your temperament, that lead you to this sad place where you are now. Neither was my intention to aggravate it in any way.
dershowitz agrees.
dersh says he’s considered a “right wing extremist” at harvard law school because he believes in freedom of speech…reason why HLS is shit.
in the end this nonsense will come a cropper because its advocates are STUPID.
another jew agrees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k11feYrA5yY
in the end this nonsense will come a cropper because its advocates are STUPID.
i take that back. if people as a whole are getting dumber then the number of people like dersh or thomas jefferson or whoever can become so small that despite their great talent they are powerless against the much greater mass of idiots.
another jew agrees:
it’s interesting…
another sandy hook defendant was a professor of the philosophy of science.
the philosophy of science is a real thing, a technical thing…but his phd was from UI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Fetzer
all of these unz articles are just meant to collect ip addresses of possible enemies of israel.
you’d have to be autistic or a mossad agent not to get that.
btw, yesterday i ate a raw habanero pepper and my mom told me she had the chance to have a one night stand with the governor of alaska.
The more I think about Unz, the more I think you might be right about his site.
The best objections to that are (1) he’s a weird dude who’s a genuine freethinker and (2) why would someone include high-caliber anti-semitism (Sailer, MacDonald, etc.) in a corral?
He’s very strange, so hardcore contrarianism wouldn’t shock me. Plus, a lot of the material he himself has put out has changed minds (Myth of American Meritocracy).
@Austin
While the material he puts out can be true and be used to change minds, it could also have utility in attracting a certain kind of person.
i’m not serious. i’m just making fun of the pill personality. i don’t know anything more than anyone else.
but it seems impossible that unz is what he says he is. and the most reasonable inference i can think of is he’s a “connected guy”. to what exactly he is connected i can’t say for sure. but his father was an israeli. i also find andrew aurenheimer and enoch extremely fishy.
the unz article which smelled the worst was his “lord voldemort effect article”. it was like he was trying to explain to the suspicious why they shouldn’t be suspicious. like he knew something about himself he wasn’t telling.
and is his fortune any less fishy than epstein’s?
did peepee know that amon goth’s granddaughter is black?
and his resident israel hater is a former CIA agent with an italian name. do you trust giraldi?
if it is about israel he’s wasting his time though. most american antisemites don’t care about israel.
and obviously that conflict can’t be resolved until the US forces both sides to stop lying. i don’t know enough to say which side is lying or if both sides are lying. but in general people don’t like it when their country is invaded by “immigrants” who then say “our country now. suck it.”
the demographic decline of jews in the west may eventually lead to the identification of israel as a latter day apartheid south africa.
The leader of the Proud Boys, Enrique Tarrio, was a « prolific » FBI informant. I have written several times on Unz site that I believe Steve Sailer would probably have to also work with the police and intelligence services, as an informant too. If you were to organize a Turners Diary thing, that has 0 chance to succeed today, he would be one of the last person you should inform, just after your local FBI bureau office or the American embassy.
As for Unz, he has mentioned several times casually that even for MSM it would be easy to suck up all individual commenters IP address from the site, so it’s not like people haven’t been warned … I don’t think he has any anti alt-right intentions yet – he spoke about the death of alt-right very dispassionately if you remember –
but he is surely not a sentimental person who would sacrifice himself for commenters and even for authors on his homonymous site. So caveat scriptor…
Sailer definitely wouldn’t fall on the sword for Unz commenters, but I give him credit for being one of the few right-wing pundits to have seldom changed his tune over the last 20 years.
After the Floyd incident, I remember being struck by “conservative” op-Ed columnists like Karl Rove and Peggy Noonan suddenly writing about “racial disparities” almost overnight. But Sailer has never been swayed by media outrage and cultural trends.
why is the bruno personality’s english suddenly 10x better?
sailer never mentions danish pipo. never.
and his beating up on blacks is just bad taste.
and an obvious distraction.
blacks have zero power. they vote for whomever they’re told to vote for.
He mentions them all the time or at least did back when I had time to read him
https://www.unz.com/isteve/demographics-of-top-50-pundits/
and sailer has said in the distant past that he is half jewish and yet a roman.
the only sign of his roman-ness is that he’s a paleocon.
yeah. the floyd thing is a clear dividing line between meat puppets like peepee and her pill personality and real pipo.
“the media doesn’t report reality. it creates reality.” — heideggerian jew darren beattie
is darren beattie actually a jew? or has he learned from milo that jews don’t know who’s a jew.
he doesn’t look especally jewish. but i don’t know how tall he is.
If Jews inherited their high IQ from white admixture, they wouldn’t be so cognitively uneven.
why is the bruno personality’s english suddenly 10x better?
—> thanks 😉
Peeps, if a genie or god comes down and asks you to choose a wish among two wishes they provide, what would you choose?:
a) Biggest human head on the planet ever b) Highest IQ on the planet ever.
Please answer and also tell us why.
Highest IQ. The only advantage of having a big head is it increases the odds of having a high IQ (and perhaps keeps you warm) but is otherwise a liability.
stupidest question. ever. haha.
stupidest person.ever.haha.
i hope youre talking about yourself. hindus have no intellect.
Would there be any repercussions if someone was given the highest human intellect (in the available distribution) with an average sized brain? I have suspected that such mismatches may contribute towards things like neuroticism.
How do we find genetic variants which directly increase intelligence e.g. aren’t related to adaptive behaviour? Maybe GWAS on young siblings since they haven’t had time to select their own environment yet?
I don’t understand the question. Do you mean variants that cause intelligence instead of merely being correlated with it?
Some variants make you smarter directly e.g. a bigger more efficient brain whereas others help you select better environments for yourself.
Who’s the highest IQ individual you have ever met in person, PP?
I don’t think I’ve ever met someone much above 150.
When I was sent to the only high school in the city that had a gifted program, I noticed there were some freakishly smart people in class. In the calculus class there was one super nerdy guy with glasses who looked way younger than the other students (probably because delayed puberty increases math per Lion) and was always annoying the teacher with these really abstract hypothetical calculus questions that were far more advanced than what she was there to teach. He was possibly the smartest and if so he was probably around 160 (U.S. norms)(given there are about 12000 people my age in my city and the smartest one likely ended up at that school and the average IQ in my city is likely above the provincial average which is likely above the national average which is above the U.S. average).
At that school I also noticed for the first time an openly gay student (a girl with an almost shaved head) and a super militant girl who verbally dominated anyone who didn’t share her left-wing politics (with the exception of affirmative action which she rejected)
But I also attended the best university in my elite city and was introduced to virtually all the top talent so perhaps it was someone there.
The only person who really stands out to me is this one Asian guy who was in one of the same student orgs as me in college.
He’s one of the most creative people I’ve ever met and one of the best public speakers too. 4.0 GPA. Despite not being a “target school”, got hired by at least one of the top three management consulting firms (MBB) but turned them down for something even better. I wonder what he’s up to.
He sometimes dropped hints that he got the sense that I might be smarter than him in a WAIS sense, but I’d take his mental profile, energy, determination, etc. over mine any day.
I wonder how he’d do on something like the LSAT.
i am in fact the smartest person many people have ever met.
these include professors not just my “white trash” relatives.
how do i know?
they’ve told me.
and i think, “are you sure about that? are you feeling ok?”
i posted the picture of one of the smartest pipo i’ve met, but his smarts may’ve been just VIQ…peepee wouldn’t post it…because identifying i guess…a short but robust yuge headed blond guy from southern oregon…
even at shitty flagship state unis like the u of o there are a few very smart pipo.
they gave us the stats from the regional tourney and he and i had answered as many questions…were top of the list…but he was a russian major and i was a math major…
sometimes high IQ is just being good at lots of things and not very good at anything.
I was EXTREMELY depressed in high school and college, to the point where I could barely function some of the time.
On one really bad day, my dad told me that he didn’t understand why I was doing this to myself, as I was the smartest person he’d ever known.
He was a super successful Wall Street guy, and he would never lie about something like that.
Writing all this might suggest otherwise, but I’ve never cared much about being intelligent. Like you said, outside of test taking, relatively high intelligence, practically speaking, is oftentimes irrelevant and indiscernible.
but unlike ZA where the solution was the one state solution, because bantus were 80+% of the population…
this is not the case in israel. the arabs and jews are about the same number. and the jewish tfr is now higher because so many ultra-orthodox.
the two cases are also different in that the afrikaners…
settled a country bare…and the bantu came in this country and settled certain regions for themselves…
in other words apartheid in israel is much more evil than apartheid in ZA.
i mean how retarded can white people be if white people are the best looking then how could whites uphold the preposterous notion that blacks who nothing like them would be almost as good-looking as them?
what i mean to say is whites are so stupid they would favor negroids over other caucasoids but forget why they employed that standard in the first place?
food for thought Mug eat it up!
white pipo are ugly…just like everyone else…
the claim is the best looking wypipo are the best looking.
how long before all the planets have to be renamed because racism?
jupiter will be renamed “shaqueela” and its moons will be named after the jackson 5.
equity!
1. whites have the least prognathism. look the least simian. but also some white men have strong brow ridges. simian vs caveman. not the same thing.
2. most whites can tan and it shows in a way it doesn’t for darker skinned pipo. some freckle. but pale white skin is usually not attractive.
3. whites’ eye color and hair color has many more variations. so for example in ireland the combination of blue eyes and black hair is common.
4. whites are tall. among wypipo are also the most robust pipo outside of polynesians. specifically balts and poles.
5. whites’ hair texture is also quite variable.
so all the ways a white person can be put together is greater than for other groups and thus the maximum is greater. more variables means a higher high…and a lower low.
1, 3, and 5 are also characteristics of dogs, domesticated arctic foxes, and domesticated animals in general.
but also some white men have strong brow ridges. simian vs caveman. not the same thing.
Yes it is dumbass. Chimps have HUGE brow rides. You’re too dumb to study HBD. Their craniums are also less spherical and more ape shaped than Northeast Asians. So that’s two ways whites are closer to apes than Northeast Asians.
4. whites are tall.
Unless they’re Italian who are short as FUCK!
1 is a characteristic of dogs in that dogs have shorter muzzles and wider crania than wolves…even dogs with long muzzles and narrow crania.
the demotion of pluto to dwarf planet wasn’t just autism.
it was because eris…and the expectation that there are beaucoup objects like eris…undiscovered.
eris has a smaller volume but greater mass than pluto. it too may have a water ocean.
or so the germans would have us believe…
Have you calmed down yet?
I’m always calm.
So Im allowed comment again?
VS
Where did you get that ‘Blacklisted from History’ suggestion? You were obviously reading Alex Jones again. Tut Tut. Haven’t I warned you about Alex Jones? Hes not mentally with it.
I don’t read Infowars and I don’t care what his IQ is.
so alex jones wrote the wikipedia article on mccarthy?
sadly, you have sever autism.
ever heard of the soviet archives or venona?
idiot!
On the subject of McCarthy, he was basically a semi-alcoholic blowhard that accused anything walking of communism. In the early decades of the 20th century, before Stalin/pol pot/Mao communism wasn’t particularly associated with mass killing and cruelty. It was very progressive. You could justifiably be an open communist even if you weren’t a jew.
Bashing communism in the 40s and 50s basically meant you were a puppet of the ruling elites. In this case it was ironic even Dulles tired of him questioning the intelligence agencies. Dulles worked for Rockefeller and his clique and they hated communism just as much, if not more than McCarthy but McCarthy ceased to be useful after accusing the CIA and FBI of harbouring communism.
In other words, Blacklisted from History must have a spectacular set of facts to rehabilitate the character of McCarthy who was a pretty low level dude in the scheme of things in 1950s America. I doubt he was briefed on anything.
McCarthy was proven right about communism but based on what I’ve read, he got it right by accident.
quite a coincidence!
idiot!
Its strange the way the SPLC hasn’t done its ritual denunciation of Unz.com yet to my knowledge. Its true the mainstream media has been directed never to quote Unz or even mention it as an ‘anti-semitical neo-nazi’ blah blah blah. I agree this approach is unusual.
But its not a fishing point for IP addresses dumbass. The NSA had all that years ago. Unz is not Mossad. Its totally obvious no Mossad agent would empower those kinds of views.
Unz is what jews call a ‘self-hating jew’ which is a slang for jews that see the inhumanity of what they’re doing. There are plenty of jews that don’t like Israel’s treatment of Palestinians either.
The website has been criticized by the Anti-Defamation League as hosting racist and antisemitic content,[3] and the Southern Poverty Law Center which has labeled it a white nationalist publication.[4] Unz has also drawn criticism for funding VDARE and other writers that critics have termed white supremacist.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Unz
Im wrong. They’ve denounced it.
I have to say, the quality of Mugabe’s conspiracy theorizing is so bad, I’m minded to think he might be on the autism spectrum.
When he said that jewish control of the media was by accident that really made me question whether Mugabe could read people’s facial expressions or tell if marriage involved sex.
Obviously he calls me a mossad agent as a joke. I get that. But he wasn’t joking about the jewish media being an accident or Unz being mossad.
Mugabe also said Oswald was the lone gunman that killed Kennedy.
Mugabe must have been flapping his arms in school.
I think if you ever met Mug of Pee in real life, you’d spot him from a mile away because of the autistic body movements
The quality of his theorizing in general is bad, not conspiracy theories only.
He ain’t got no common sense, as Oprah would say.
He also has horrible theory of mind. For years he insisted I’m a black lesbian because of my Oprah interest. Huh? He doesn’t even get who her audience is.
He also called Steve Hsu and Jensen stupid for years for not talking about norms of reaction. It doesn’t occur to him that people understand the concept but dismiss it as unlikely in many cases.
He also can’t tell the difference between stupid and evil no matter how many times I’ve tried to explain it to him, insisting evil people are too dumb to understand morals.
He also has obsessive interests (can’t stop thinking about Nazis and Jews)
The only non-autistic traits he has are good sense of humour and creativity, but that’s cause he has aspergers not autism proper. Aspergoids are known for their vivid imaginations and extreme originality and their verbal > performance IQ profile while he also has.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Unmasked
Check this out ^^. Steve Bannon started off as a typical servant of Master. Not unlike the vast majority of the welfare queen right wing media class. He then showed some intelligence and evolved past Breitbart and the other pawns.
Bannon went off the reservation talking about race/immigration. Conservatives are not allowed to discuss race.
You can serve the gentile elites all you want but they can’t protect you against the jews who are more powerful.
Sailer just said he admires Soros on an intellectual level. Its true Soros is a legit genius…unlike some of the autistic clowns here that claim to be geniuses Soros doesn’t have half his brain missing.
The fact the mainstream media mentions the Koch Brothers so often means they’re not ‘in the tent’. True elites aren’t mentioned on mainstream media…or publicised by fucking Forbes magazine puppy.
I agree most of the media only mentions gentiles when they take about powerful puppet masters but Forbes doesn’t have that bias, as evidenced by the fact that 36% of the Forbes 400 is Jewish. Forbes readers are smart and they’re going to notice if the owners of Fortune 500 companies are missing from their billionaire list. Of course Forbes will never connect the dots between the ethnicity of elites and U.S. foreign policy, but they are at least accurate enough to identify the vast majority of ones they can find (though surely some have evaded Forbes search)
“sailer never mentions danish pipo. never.
and his beating up on blacks is just bad taste.”
He mentions them but its clear he doesn’t have an aversion to them like McDonald or everyone else on Unz. Maybe he’s friends with jews in his personal life? Youre like that with blacks aren’t you Robert? You have some black friends and you consider it ‘bad taste’ to point out how degenerate their behaviour and crimes are.
I have many black friends in real life but I’m ‘red pilled’. I know theyve been heavily vetted before being allowed in the same office or environment as me so I don’t base my opinion on blacks on my personal friendships. I’d be very reluctant to say my true views on blacks in public though. Its considered immoral in the West to criticise blacks.
He mentions them but its clear he doesn’t have an aversion to them like McDonald or everyone else on Unz
Or pretends not to since so many of his readers and doners are Dane
They’re throwing the Espionage Act at Trump. Jesus. Thats the same thing they threw at Snowden. Is CNN really going to try to make out Trump is a spy for Russia yet again?
Puppy will say they’re doing it for the ratings…
Even people with room temperature IQs thought the Russia stuff was stupid and implausible. That meant Melo fell at the first hurdle. Poor guy. IQ wasn’t even room temperature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917
Seems like they basically changed the purpose of the law to stop spies to now just basically imprisoning journalists. Great.
Life under the jews gets better every day for Americans lol.
highest paid male model.
PP, does the name [redacted by pp, 2022-08-13] ring a bell?
Yeah, that was one of the names I posted under when I first discovered the internet.
PP, are you Punjabi?
No
I thought it couldn’t be you because the writing style was too good. I guess you put more effort into writing [redacted by pp, 2022-08-13] than you put into writing blog posts
My blog posts aren’t that poorly written. One commenter said:
I have just discovered this blog and my honest impressions: 1) this person writes and thinks with great clarity and is engaging to read and seems like an enthusiastic, positive person. Very intelligent.
https://pumpkinperson.com/2015/04/29/smart-people-get-to-the-top-naturally/#comment-11623
One thing I learned from reading Lion’s blog is that a good blogger writes as simply and clearly as possible so I tried to mimic that style. But maybe you prefer bigger words and longer sentences.
your theory of mind is so bad you think i know you’re black from you’re totally bizarre obsession with oprah.
that has nothing to do with it.
unlike you i have no obsessions. when you say i am obsessed with jews and nazis YOU R LYING!
your indian cab driver is obsessed with jews and nazis.
As Afro noted, As Misdreavus noted…why do you always need a black guy to validate your every opinion?
when you say i am obsessed with jews and nazis YOU R LYING!
OH MY GOD!! I could literally fill a book with all your moderated comments on Jews and Nazis and sell it on amazon. It’s very common for people on the spectrum to get obsessed with a particular period of history; some of them even dress up like that period.