Commenter Rahul wanted me to post about a number sequence test he found online called NUMERUS BASIC . At first I didn’t want to do so because I hate number sequence tests, but maybe other people will like it so here’s a link.
The reason I hate number sequence tests is you never no when to give up trying different possibilities. As a result you can waste a lot of time on wild goose chases. I prefer tests where you either know the answer or you don’t, and you either know you can figure out how to solve it or you don’t.
Although it’s worth noting that perhaps the smartest person I’ve ever encountered (online or off) was superhuman when it came to number sequences. Virtually no one could create a number sequence that could stump him, and some of these number sequences had nothing whatsoever to do with math.
One thing that struck me is how similar NUMERUS BASIC is to the PATMA in programming design so whoever wrote this test appears to be at least as advanced as me in programming skills (which is not that advanced). It’s basically the exact same computer program but with different test questions but I’m very new to programming so maybe this design is standard.
If you took NUMERUS BASIC please let us know how you did in the anonymous poll below:
Pumpkin Person 
Dear Sir / Madam,
your raw score on Numerus Basic IQ test is 6/20.
Your estimated numerical IQ is 120, which is 1/11 rarity.
pp, will this be added to my composite score?
“class” is just a word. even oprah and flavor flav and peepee can be high class if you want.
i would like to promote a sense of “class” for which money is not essential but almost essential.
class: a state of mind common among those who have had money for generations, such that working for a living, vying for status, and obedience and striving and pushing are vices to be avoided (if possible).
fussell remarked how his very lowest and very highest class had so many things in common, the welfare queen and the queen of england.
but to maintain the upper class mindset, attitude, worldview, is very difficult or impossible for normal people if they don’t have some money they never earned.
Despite being being born in poverty, Oprah exudes the cultural sophistication of the upper class. Reads fiction for pleasure, eschews television, hates horror, believes in self-actualization, secular spirituality, sophisticated views on U.S. foreign policy:
Oprah exudes the cultural sophistication of the upper class. Reads fiction for pleasure, eschews television, hates horror, believes in self-actualization, secular spirituality, sophisticated views on U.S. foreign policy…
IRONICALLY!
Are the wealthy and those with high socioeconomic status in this country more likely or less likely to an interventionist foreign policy? I’m guessing the latter but I’m not sure…
If you control for ethnicity, the rich are probably more anti-interventionist because they’re smart enough to see through the propoganda,
Yeah, I meant to say excluding Jews…
Even though the neocons were Jewish, it should be noted that Jews as a whole were more opposed to the Iraq war than non-jews, however many non-jews were too dumb to see past the propaganda about Saddam Hussein having links to 9/11. If you control for IQ, it might be different. Blacks to their credit were perhaps the most opposed to the Iraq war of any ethnic group (except for probably Arab Americans who opposed it for ethnic reasons)
You say you like oprah ironically despite all your statements about her being very passionate and detailed. I.e. youre not being ironic.
Ironically != insincerely
Pumpkin uses “ironically” as being different from what the expectation would be of a person like himself or rather that his taste is different from his usual taste in entertainment.
At least that is how Ive heard it being used.
as can be seen, perhaps, with the art collecting and so forth…
the “upper class” in the sense i would promote is obsessed with aesthetics…is defined by its hatred of ugliness and unpleasantness and grubbiness etc.
a gentleman will not eat a macdonald’s hamburger even on pain of death…so to say.
a gentleman is a straight up killer…the feudal…
but he’d never take steroids…
and he’s the opposite of a criminal type…
paul fussell’s son left oxford feeling effeminate so he became a bodybuilder and wrote a book about it…the fussells are angelinos…gross…
so yeah people can improve their physical appearance a little if they eat right and excericise…
but this may NOT actually increase their attractiveness AT ALL.
bodybuilders are just ridiculous.
btw, i have a BIOLOGICAL explanation for rr’s volte-face…
he said prior to…that he would start juicing once he’d reached his natural limit…
i propose that he started juicing a little before he became woke.
this is not abuse.
rr can affirm this or deny it.
False.
a woman with a perfect body is just for fapping…at most…
there’s LESS THAN ZERO interest for the real/wild thing, girl-friend…
AND the perfect body for men and women is actually much more similar than the propaganda says…
that is, from a straight man who wishes he was a gay man pov…
thick and not fat is what hits 10…for men and women.
the prefect female body needs muscle…in the derriere…like ingrid…not the anime…
His son, Samuel Wilson Fussell, a writer and hunter in Montana, is the author of Muscle: Confessions of an Unlikely Bodybuilder.
hunter?
wtf?
the point is…
following class down the rabbit hole just leads to diogenes AGAIN!
…and the sun is eclipsed by the moon…oo…oo…nnn.
11/20 without huge concentration effort. 1/44 rarity.
stop making an effort.
you sound like a self-hating indian.
why 1947 only 2 years after the war?
what’s the name for a an indian who wishes he was still ruled by england?
I think they call it an “Ian Smith.” Also youre a disrespectful motherfucker who needs to be put in his place immediately before you end up getting hurt.
Stfu and try not to be a douche you fuckin cuntus.
Also arent you indian Mug? If not what in the fuck degenerate group do you belong to?!?!
I understand you’re annoyed by his racism so I’ll let it slide, but let’s be mindful of the no insult rule.
Best wishes.
peepee just called my relatives white trash.
WHAT RACISM?
TAKE THAT BACK IMMEDIATELY PEEPEE!
Fraz, what is your matrix reasoning score if I may ask?!
Pumpkin, in your article you said you liked tests in which you know the answer and are able to solve it, or you don’t know the answer. But how would a learning effect be a thing on a test like PATMA which is very much a you know or you don’t know. So, it wouldn’t matter if you had a learning effect, you are still able to do the problem just as a different date. And even if a fresh brain is in effect, your score shouldn’t improve by huge margins, only about 3-5 points.
“The reason I hate number sequence tests is you never no when to give up trying different possibilities. As a result you can waste a lot of time on wild goose chases. I prefer tests where you either know the answer or you don’t, and you either know you can figure out how to solve it or you don’t.”
I think this is only true, or at least MORE true, of bad number sequence tests, hence why you have to have trust in the author’s competence in order to be confident in your answers.
I scored 20/20, for reference (if only my vision were that good!).
Here’s a harder companion to this test, which I’m still working on: http://www.free.ultimaiq.net/nse.htm
what do you think about the accuracy of this at the low end? the high end? Also, are you allowed to take breaks in middle of the testing?
It’s probably more accurate the low end, but I can’t say to what extent. You can take as many breaks as you like, which is the point of untimed testing.
So with only 11 votes in, the self-reported mean for my readers is about 12 with an SD of about 5. Assuming my readers have a mean IQ of about 126 with an SD of 16:
IQ = [(score – 12)/5][16] + 126
this is very rough of course. in addition to the problems with small samples and self-reported self-selected scores, we can’t assume raw scores on this test are normally distributed.
If you’re comfortable sharing, what was your WAIS-IV score?
Full Scale IQ: 149
General Ability Index: 144
Processing Speed Index: above range (150+)
Digit Coding: 19+ scaled (151 raw)
Symbol Search: 19+ scaled (58 raw)
Verbal Comprehension Index: 141
Similarities: 16 scaled
Vocabulary: 19 scaled
Comprehension: 16 scaled
Working Memory Index: 141
Arithmetic: 16 scaled
Digit Span: 18 scaled
Perceptual Reasoning Index: 132
Visual Puzzles: 14 scaled
Figure Weights: 15 scaled
Matrix Reasoning: 17+ scaled (perfect score)
I think I underperformed on WMI due to tiredness and suffered from ceiling effects on VCI, but otherwise these scores are pretty consistent with what I’ve gotten on other tests.
If you got a perfect score on Matrix Reasoning you should have at least 18+. At no age group does a perfect Matrix score equate to less than 18 on the WAIS-IV.
Oh wow thanks meguka
I hope that means I’m around there too
Tiro finale
@pumpkinperson: Well, now you’ve cornered me into admitting that I took the test not with a professional examiner, but with a guy I found online who had a leaked copy. I think the version was from some South American country, so the norms may have been different than the US norms or whichever ones you’re using. That’s probably illegal, but I don’t regret it, especially considering that it was an order of magnitude or two cheaper this way. This is also why I didn’t take Block Design.
I don’t know where you found any WAIS-IV norm tables yourself, but I guess I can post my raw scores, and you can convert them to scaled scores for 20-year-old Americans if you want.
Similarities: 34/36
Vocabulary: 56/57
Comprehension: 33/36
Visual Puzzles: 22/26
Figure Weights: 24/27
Matrix Reasoning: 26/26
Digit Span: 42/48
Arithmetic: 20/22
Similarities 17
Vocabulary 19+ (54 = 19)
Comprehension 17
Visual Puzzles 14
Figure Weights 16
Matrix Reasoning 18+
Digit Span 18
Arithmetic 15
Symbol Search 19+
Coding ?
Your coding raw score of 151 doesn’t make sense because coding maxes out at 135 on the WAIS-IV so perhaps this South American WAIS-IV not only has different norms, but different test items too. If so, then none of my above scaled scores are meaningful.
I did the PSI subtests using software versions provided by Inquisit Labs, which might have higher or no item count limits. I had assumed that the actual WAIS-IV PSI subtests were computerized too, but if they are done with pencil and paper, then I probably had an advantage since a mouse and keyboard likely required me to spend less time on motoric manipulations than physical drawing would.
the wais-iv processing speed subtests are done with paper & pencil. the manual says nothing about any computerized version.
That’s unfortunate since I would probably knock my score down by a noticeable margin. However, given that my typing speed consistently exceeds 130wpm on most texts when I’m making an effort, I feel safe asserting that my processing speed must be pretty high. I’d like to take the WAIS-IV with a professional examiner eventually, but that would be expensive even if I could find one, and besides, I would probably have a significant retest advantage.
And where the hell did you get the manual?
from a psychologist
send me an email
I scored 20/20 in ~45 minutes. https://imgur.com/a/YpCdMFS
I also scored 10/10 on the PATMA
However, I’ve done plenty of tests like this, but I do usually score in this range. I score around 150 – 170 on high-range spatial tests too (like the SEE30)
I’ve been silently enjoying your blog for several years. Thank you for the enjoyable tests lately.
you’re very welcome. Thank you for reading.
I feel like I’m more on the autistic side of things, though definitely not enough to warrant a full-blown diagnosis. Just more of a male brain. I like sociobiological explanations of phenomena, I like evolutionary psych, I like IQ + personality to explain/predict.
Conversely, for instance, the left has a tendency to empathize with criminals and ascribe their criminality to ‘tough upbringing’, ‘poverty’, etc, and though I’m sure there is some element of environmental causation, some of that is self-selected environment and so just a manifestation of underlying genetic propensities. But some of these folk will not even consider something like a bell curve of natural criminality. If poverty is the cause, then why do men commit all the crime despite men and women being equally represented on the lower rungs on the socio-economic ladder?…
However, my 2d:4d ratio is around 1 and that doesn’t seem to square with my systematic personality. My MBTI is INTP. To be fair, I have a slight verbal bent in intelligence, so that is feminine, but the personality stuff doesn’t square. Thoughts?
[redacted by pp, sept 6, 2020]
I’ve been lurking in this blog for a while now, and that will now come to an end.
11/20 in like 15 minutes. I’ve always hated these tests too.
I could only get 5 right probably the lowest score thus far on this blog.
How long did you take on the test? It’s okay to take breaks, watch some YouTube, eat, bullshit with friends , and maybe do some chores while taking a test like this. Relax and let the problems marinate in your brain. I’ve used up to three hours on untimed tests! You can certainly get a great score with determination.
You’re allowed to take breaks?? If that’s the case, I haven’t done this test in like a year and recently I got 128, not 120 (which is what i got the very first time taking the test), recently. I generally always did this in one sitting.
My assumption was always that even in untimed tests, everything should be done in one sitting. If not, then maybe I better go try some more.
When doing untimed tests, I usually work on them in dozens of sittings over at least a few weeks. If the test is even remotely difficult (for me), that’s the only way I’ll come close to my maximum score.
I don’t see the harm is taking breaks. Our minds often wander during long and boring tests anyway. At least that’s the case with my ADHD ass.
I only did the ones I could immediately solve. I have no idea on how to start on the ones i couldnt and would take me nowhere in attempting to make something out of nothing if that makes sense.
Anyways thanks for the encouragement regardless i highly appreciate it.
Hey Pumpkin, on the PATMA I put random answers down for the last three. If I figured it out another time, 3 of the problems, is there a likelihood that an average of all the scores would be the accurate one?
I = R*F
Intellignce = Memory Reorganization Density * Frequency
synaptic pruning and growth + hippocampal efficiency
Pumpkin, would learning effect come into play even if you don’t know which questions you got wrong. Like, on the PATMA, I got a 7, but I thought I got the cube one right and the rest wrong. Since I realized after the problem processed in my brain for sometime that it was wrong, wouldn’t that have counteracted the learning effects?
Lol, from what I’m seeing, this test is royally inaccurate (with the way Ivan normed it). Hey Pumpkin, can you do the same thing you did now, but with this test?
Also, I really think you should make a PATMA type test with Verbal stuff, and another one with Spatial stuff.
https://free.ultimaiq.net/nse.html
Scrap that, that was assuming a normal distribution. There’s no way to know if that’s the case here. Even then, the average on this blog is about a 126, and the average number of right answers is around the number of correct answers is 133 according to Ivan’s norms. So, a 7 point discrepancy.
Ok, right now it seems that it’s even closer. The average on this blog is 126, and the median score on this test is 11, which corresponds to a 130.
PP, make another PATMA-type test but this time make it related to Verbal stuff. Pls
Pls do so pumpkin.
I could call it the PATVA 🙂
Can you give us details of the PATVA ahead of time so we can have an understanding of what will be tested? I am sure i would do very well if i had timed preparation and at least an understanding of what materials and types of items are on a test like this.
PP should create a PATMA styed FSIQ test
and people on here would take it seriously because running a blog = credentials
Ganzir- I mean, a lot of us on here are probably intensely insecure about ourselves, like insecure beyond comprehension. I’m a prime example of this, I wouldn’t be surprised if other people were.
Thanks for the test, pumpkinperson. I’m very intrigued by that man you consider to be the smartest you’ve met. What more can you say? You know him from real life? What makes you believe he’s that intelligent? What’s he like? Occupation etc
I knew him only from the internet decades ago. He had a middle class occupation which at the time I didn’t get because I naively thought all super geniuses should be gazillionsires. Chris Langan was also there. These were the greatest minds in the entire World & we debated for hours about everything from success to theology . It was the best education one could ever have. I saw the dramatic fall of the Mega Test which for my generation was the like the fall of the Berlin Wall. I was very lucky to have come of age during the golden age of online IQ forums.
online IQ forums aside it is crazy that we live in a golden age of information.
certainly the greatest achievement by any sophisticated creature or at least one that should be an endeavor for any intelligent civilization. i commend you all for playing a great role in it but the results are immediate for reaping the karma from doing good things like this.
Now I’m quite angry that I didn’t get to experience that too. I might not have even born been then. You say that Chris Langan was also there, so does that mean this Promethean was smarter than Langan?!?!
I love coming here for a good laugh. Langan is just a racist bouncer.
Someone gave me this one (wich doesn’t have more than 7yo math at all involved) yesterday but was a bit difficult and I found it just by waking up this morning (brain did the work during the sleep). Very rare for me to have to spend a night on it 😊
3. 7.6. 4.1 10.5. 5.2 ??,?
The formatting is a little unclear. Anyway:
13.4., 6.3
However, it could also be 14.5., 6.3
Only spent about a minute on it, and I feel like both are wrong.
HayatoMan you got the right format: two digits and a decimal.
You are obviously looking in the good direction but don’t have it yet.
I myself needed 1 hour and an entire night of sleep to find it . The guy told me it was given to him for a structurer mathematician Job at Goldman Sachs . And he failed this one but still got the job. They gave it to him 3 days in advance.
3.0 7.6 4.1 10.5 5.2 ??,?
I ve written all with a decimal so that it’s more clear. And the first one is an integer just 3.
I believe with your answers you are not far from finding Hayato … if you find to give the solution so that the other perfect scorers can try their chance in a slightly easier former having the 5th sequence solved and just having to find the 7th etc
3.0 7.6 4.1 10.5 5.2 ??,?
I ve written all with a decimal so that it’s more clear. And the first one is an integer just 3.
I believe with your answers you are not far from finding Hayato … if you find to give the solution so that the other perfect scorers can try their chance in a slightly easier former having the 5th sequence solved and just having to find the 7th etc
8.7, 4.1
&
9.8, 6.3
Are two more possible solutions – both of them work pretty well. I also found three more “equations” that result in 13.4, 6.3. Starting to think it’s a poor sequence, but I’m probably just an idiot.
13.4 & 6.3 maybe?
He already rejected that answer if you scroll up
Lol Hayato, I just realized (because of you, obviously) it was the same answer as the first one I thought of, but because I used a completely different logic (seemingly) it never occurred to me that they would be identical.
This numerus basic test actually seems pretty accurate (at least at the lower end). The average on this blog and the corresponding score on the numerus basic line up pretty well.
137 (9/10) on PATMA, 136 on this (13/20) and 133 in WAIS-IV (VCI: 127, PRI: 127, WMI:111, PSI: 135) – top scores in Vocab, Matrix Reasoning, and, oddly, Symbol Search. Got 14 on Arithmetic though, pretty sure examiner fucked the admin of Digit Span (10), but could be an idiosyncratic defect, idk. So basically everything around the 2sd mark.
I’ve sometimes thought about what it would be like to have an IQ around the 3-4sd mark… for those more familiar with this, what does the average person with this level of IQ do? E(IQ given Nobel prize) = 3sd+, but obviously E(Nobel prize given IQ=145) is basically 0. Are these people kicking ass? I’ve seen the Inappropriately excluded stuff, but I’m not sure what to make of it.. is the lack of presence of high IQ in high-status professions simply a result of the former’s rarity? If not, maybe they have a tendency to lead different sorts of lives, but still do whatever they are doing very well. Please don’t just refer to yourself because there are people of all sorts at every stratum of IQ, and an anecdote doesn’t prove the trend.
How long did you take on the Numerus Basic? It’s seems a lot of people are submitting their answers way before they should.
Half an hour, maybe.
Pumpkin, is the Flynn effect that massive where kids around the ages of 16-24 (I am 24) would be scoring this stratospherically high.
Oddly enough I knew a self-claimed former MENSA member homeless person. His story was odd but regardless I found the situation to be rather funny. Whether he was a MENSA member or not he was certainly a Boston College graduate as an English major.
His parents were rather wealthy members of a community here where i live and was going to inherit a fortune equivalent of a mil or two.
Still Flynn effect is largely interesting. I think most children nowadays will indeed have spatial and mathematical skills correlated with extreme male brain to outperform their much weaker male brained older generation counterparts.
I think that this is something that would parallel the decline in certain verbal abilities related to crystallizing knowledge and more than likely why young people dont understand the world as well as members of previous generations. Not only that but a few other traits might contribute to this.
Oh I forgot Ganzir is 25 so Ill say it goes up to age 26, early Zoomers.
Also would you say Im one of the more prolific writers and masters of the English language on your blog Pumpkin? Due to my extraordinary writing abilities and overall verbosity.
???
I turn 21 in a few days
Are you a member of TNS? I saw your IQ is 149.
No
Ohhh I swear you wrote on another post you were a 25 year old white male from florida.
Maybe im misremembering though. Lemme check.
Now I remember…you said you had a head circumference of 25 inches (actually 25.7” when you properly measured it apparently).
Sorry for the confusion there hahah.
hardest song ive heard possibly ever. sad i didnt get to see iann dior in concert tho.
on another note why does one comment get posted and then another comment that was written three minutes later take another thirty minutes to post?
dont make no sense….
Damn I forgot how to comment here when I was the smartest on this blog:
I’m going to spam the comment section with rap songs unless Pumpkin posts my comments immediately since waiting this long is just unbearably unjustifiable.
Sorry I fell asleep. I was up all night last night since it’s long weekend.
Everyone knows its a long weekend in North America. I’m certain Mexico even knows since theres so many in America now.
Mexicans I mean. And other varieties of Latinos.
If I only took half an hour I’d have only gotten 18/20 instead of the 20/20 in 45 minutes. Effort definitely makes a difference.
Firstly RIP Nipsey Hussle but Big Sean killed this shit crazy bro. If this song doesnt inspire you i dunno if you have any soul left in ya.
You are very clever but it’s just a sequence of 1. I think the starting point 3 is random. Then the progression is straightforward when you find it witch just a combination of two sequence. I give you one more so it can rule out other possibilities.
17.9
I assume you meant 17.9 is 8th in the sequence (3.0, 7.6, 4.1, 10.5, 5.2, …, …, 17.9)?
Here’s one way to solve for that:
Dear Lord, I hate this sequence.
Assume two interpolating sequences (a1, b1, a2, b2 … etc.)
Sequence A starts from 3.0 and progresses linearly at a rate of 1.1; a4 = 6.3
You mentioned some numbers being the product of two others.
PER-FUCKING-HAPS this means bx is the product of ax + ay + 0.5 for b1 AND ax + ay + 0.5(2i) for b1+n where i = the integer position in sequence B AND if i = EVEN number then add 0.2 to the product (e.g. 3.0 + 4.1 + 0.5 = 7.6; 4.1 + 5.2 + 0.5(21) + 0.2 = 10.5)
FOLLOWING THAT MESS
We know the 9th number will be 7.4 THERE-FUCKING-FORE …. b4 = 6.3 + 7.4 + 0.5(23) + 0.2 = 17.9
From that we get this:
3.0, 7.6, 4.1, 10.5, 5.2, 13.5, 6.3, 17.9, 7.4 … etc.
This sequence is ASS and I hereby officially decree its answer to be 8.7, 4.1 because I like the logic for that one
None of the subscripts or superscripts got processed so now none of that makes sense
Fuck it
Creativity is in the back of the brain (Perception). Intelligence is in the front of the brain (Manipulation/control). Jordan Peterson says the front brain programs the back brain. When the prefrontal cortex is shut down the flow state occurs (Super Creativity). The prefrontal cortex’s function is impulse control. Creativity is the combining of perceptions together to make something new. Without impulse control, this combinations process happens at a rapid speed. Error testing happens much faster. Fear of mistakes kills creativity. In the flow state fear of mistakes does not happen.
Control is a motor function. Manipulation segments then arrange. It finds the most efficient path as such. Therefore the front finds the path and the back combines perceptions. Because there are many kinds of paths and many ways to combine, the brain needs to be segmented into 180 regions. Each works with others to get tasks done. IQ tests measure a small amount of these. People may be creative or intelligent in regions not measured by IQ.
The full scope of intelligence and creativity needs to be how the 180 brain regions work together.
Pumpkin Person, why did I get 130 on figure weights, is this significant in some way.
You make the exact same comment on every thread.
We should all understand that Trump does not have any real significance in saving lives. The population is so large and widespread throughout geographical regions that its impossible to make a difference in safety.
Limiting death is what K-selected societies do as they age until longevity. At the same time they value liberalism more since it implies that there are more safety nets for a society to protect its citizens.
Ethnocentrism definitely plays a role in this for sure. The more homogenous a population the more liberalism. Conservatism deteriorates at the extreme end of K-selection.
Puppy will read a comment like anime’s and think – Donald Trump has autism, but not anime.
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So you think it’s just a coincidence that a man with bizarre hair, orange spray tan, & politically incorrect views just happens to have an autistic son? You don’t see a connection there?
What do the physical characteristics have to do with autism? He’s just a bit narcissistic, that’s all. Tbh he is very masculine which gives it credence, but still, he’s missing a lot of other features. Plus, autism is quite rare and is often characterised by low IQ.
autistics display socially inappropriate behavior, and trump’s hair, spray tan, racism, trophy wife & KFC eating are socially inappropriate for a man of his wealth & status. So perhaps his son’s autistic genes explains it. Just a theory of mine.
Puppy the very fact trump cares about his personal appearence is a very non-autistic trait. And trump says politically incorrect things knowing that certain people will like it vs an autist who says politically incorrect things by accident. You just don’t get the subtlety of how a human mind works puppy. What were you doing in college? Why didn’t you pay attention in class.
Also we don’t know for a fact that his son has autism. And even if he did it could be from Melania’s side of the family.
I understand all that pill, in fact were it not for his son, I would agree with you that Trump is the opposite of an autist. However what are the odds of an autistic kid having a dad who is the opposite of autistic?
And by the way racism is an extremely NON autistic trait from everything I’ve ever encountered.In fact I would bet ‘racism’ i.e.tribalism is even a schizo hallmark.
Trump is an all-in autist but is very schiz at the same time. Also ADHD.
He struggles with how reality really is bc of grandiosity.
However he is not particularly bipolar since hes always the opposite of manic.
Actually fairly high at Trump’s age. I get where you’re coming from, pp, but I think autism and being as socially successful as Trump has been are almost mutually exclusive. There are other disorders where people behave in socially inappropriate ways, not least of which is appeal-to-the-American-public-itis.
i think the kfc eating and cola drinking is to show solidarity to the average american consumers. Fast food is also very addicting, and it could partially be trump flexing his metabolism.
Its crazy how only during the information age can a person like Donald Trump be elected. He greatly benefited from word of mouth and the usage of social media. These things are autistic normie stuff but regardless its quite impressive since he wouldnt been able to gain power in any other time in history at least not in my observations.
Anyone who disagrees with me and thinks Trump would make an effective leader at any other time in history comment since I cant find a single instance of this being a possibility.
autism is also correlated with paternal age.
just like the various CNVs…
in the case of the CNVs because genetic damage to sperm…not just that only autistic fathers have children late in life, like steve martin.
In December 2012, Martin became a father for the first time when Stringfield gave birth to a daughter.
I scored 20/20. But i have to admit, i spent a very long time on this. Over 3 hours (albeit late at night, i was tired). Mr. Pumpkin, I’ve noticed that i seem to be able to solve complex problems (particularly visual problems) but that i work slowly. I’ve not found a visual puzzle i haven’t been able to solve, with time.
Would a 20/20 score on this particular test, with no time limit, actually indicate that i have above average intelligence? Or is it more likely that i am just an average person with persistence?
Good job! I’d say it definitely counts as well above average assuming you have little to no experiences with sequences. Do you have scores on other tests to compare?
I have no experience with number sequences. Most of the time I spent on these was simply trying to figure out specific operations between listed items. Took me a while to realize that many of the questions required thinking outside of the box, so to speak. But once I figured that out, the rest came pretty easy.
I have no tests to compare this to. I’ve completed the ravens with a perfect score (untimed) and the visual puzzles on the WAIS with a perfect score—ungraded in terms of IQ, of course. This was less about IQ and more about finding puzzles to solve. Both of those tests are leaked on the internet BTW.
I’ve never thought I was anything beyond average. Although I am mildly autistic, so I guess I have no right to determine what average is.
naah, if you get a 20/20 you’re definitely wayy above average. At the higher end it overestimates, but, you’re definitely wayy above average. https://free.ultimaiq.net/basicnorm.htm
you are most likely 145-150.
Why would you assume that you are not above average? Are there not a lot of indicators from your personal and educational life? Or is this just false modesty?
There are a number of factors, educational or otherwise. I’m a high school dropout who failed even remedial classes, I frequently forget dates, phone numbers and addresses (even my own). My spelling is abysmal, and I’m only just adequate at my job — which isn’t a high skill occupation at all. If there is high intelligence there, it hasn’t expressed itself well.
Pretty good at trivia and puzzle solving, though. Especially number & visual puzzles. Which is why I’d put myself slightly above average (110 range).
I take klonopins for my anxiety as well as abilify for bipolar and ativan for sleep. What do you all take?
Lemme know in the comment section below!
I scored a 10. I spent about 15 minutes on the test and basically skipped the last three questions since it was obvious at a glance that they were simply asking me to do something I am mathematically incapable of. Perhaps I could have scored higher if I had spent a full three hours like some test takers but I appear to lack the quirky combination of autism and work ethic.
Also, I am curious to hear what you scored, PumpkinPerson.
I didn’t take it
Assuming the average for this blog in American norms is 126, the average numerus basic is raw score of 12, which corresponds to a 133 on Ivans norms. So, at least at the lower end, it’s accurate if you subtract 5 points form the score.
Is this test fairly accurate? The average of this is 133, the average of the blog is 129, so it would make sense to subtract 4 from your score right?
Pumpkin, is this test accurate?
Pumpkin, is this test accurate?
I passed the test long ago, even mentioned it once on here ( it s too hard to find it now , I guess), but now I m not sure about the results . It was 16/20, IQ=142, if I really remember it right. I didnt vote, due to this uncertainty . And, interestingly, I posted that post because a friend of mine got 20/20 and I was 99% sure that he is not of an IQ160+, with all his education and brilliancy