Forbes magazine reports:
A follower of the online right-wing QAnon conspiracy theory appears to have a straightforward path to winning a U.S. Congressional seat from a district in Georgia, setting the stage for what could be the first open supporter of the “deep state” conspiracy theory taking a seat in the U.S. legislature.
In case you don’t know, QAnon is a conspiracy theory that the World is run by a large group of baby eating Satanic Pedophile child trafficking elites who hate Donald Trump because he’s the only one who can destroy them and restore morality to the World. They believe the elite is run by the Saudi Royal Family, the Rothschild family, and George Soros.
Q stands for information you need Q level government clearance to access and they believe an anonymous person(s) with such clearance drops this information to his followers on the dark web.
Among their other beliefs:
- Angela Merkel is Hitler’s granddaughter.
- Hillary Clinton had JFK jr killed because he might have run for the senate in New York (a seat Hillary wanted and acquired), but JFK jr. may have survived and could be Q himself.
- Hillary was running a child trafficing ring out of the basement of a pizza parlor.
- The stay-at-home orders of the coronavirus is a way of hiding the fact that many Hollywood elites are on house arrest for their crimes (a theory they prove using photo-shopped images of prominent celebs wearing ankle monitors).
On a scale where white Americans average 100 with an SD of 15, I estimate Q people have an average IQ of about 90 (about the same as creationists, and indeed there’s considerable overlap between the two groups).
The media has featured them a few times(which should be a clue that they’re useful idiots for the elite because they make inquiry into legitimate conspiracy theories (the Epstein case, neocon wars) look absurd.
QAnon might have made an intelligent conspiracy theory if meant to be taken metaphorically, but it’s taken all too literally.
Here CNN tries to interview Q followers:
An excellent interview about the Q movement with a man who studies it. Well worth a listen as they get into the psychology of conspiracy theorists:
[This article was updated on June 15, 2020, to remove a statement a commenter found misleading]
Pumpkin Person 
Youre such an idiot. I want you to change that reference to me now. It makes it seem like I believe in this stuff which I don’t. Just to be clear I have no interest or belief in this QAnon stuff. Change it.
Fine I changed it. LMAO
If you’re Hi-IQ, you’re a High-IQ idiot. If you bothered to dig into it a bit, it’s clear the Q movement is a psyop being run by the “Army of Northern Virginia”:
https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=%22army+of+northern+virginia%22+intelligence+q+qanon&cat=web&pl=opensearch
Also, MFW you use CNN as a source, as if. W the actual F. KYS.
LOL
Readish
https://unherd.com/2020/06/facts-vs-feelings-in-the-blm-debate/
The blond guy looks very nice and attractive. I would have liked to have him as a step brother. But he looks lQ challenged repeating internet memes like a robot.
And the woman before him looked like she had mild Down syndrome. It’s wonderful that those white people exit and they understand that Trump is very slightly better for them than the opposite side.
But when I listen to the 2 journalists laughing at them because they are 115-125 liberals, I would like to be there to defend the Cuty and the downy thesis and develop them better.
The good thing is that everyone is satisfied with its own intelligence level. Anderson Cooper seems making 10 millions a year and being a Vanderbilt, he is at the top of the food chain even if he is IQ wouldn’t allow him to understand, and even less solve, any complex problem. I saw he had been dating a young Latino muscular university radiologist …
“The blond guy looks very nice and attractive. I would have liked to have him as a step brother.”
This is a weird statement.
Bruno autism strikes again..
“Anderson Cooper seems making 10 millions a year and being a Vanderbilt, he is at the top of the food chain even if he is IQ wouldn’t allow him to understand, and even less solve, any complex problem.”
Talk about useful idiots, Anderson Cooper is a prime example. In fact most news anchors are in some ways possibly below average in intelligence(certainly their performance IQ must be abysmal), save for Tucker Carlson and possibly a couple of others on the Democrat side, though it’s possible that in the last few years they were replaced by halfwits as is the custom on CNN and MSNBC lately(Not that Fox is much better but at least they have Tucker).
Tucker knows even more than he lets on. He’s in kevin macdonald land for sure.
I hope he doesn’t pull a Gregg Easterbrook and get fired.
tucker and chris mathews are the best hosts on cable. too bad mathews got fired
PP
Right, kinda proves my point about MSNBC/CNN.
AS
That’s for sure, Tucker is smart AND he seems to have more integrity than all remaining hosts put together. He’s had the balls to call out Trump when he crossed the line despite working for a pro Republican News outlet while basically landing on the right side of most(if not all) issues for the last 4 years(and by that I don’t mean taking some superficial stance that resembles the correct approach, I mean the guy does his research is thoughtful measured and has the balls to call it as it is). He comes off as more of a centrist to me perhaps with a dose of libertarianism.
I had to read matthews’s hardball book for a poli sci class a few years ago. It was really good.
Did he get #metoo-ed?
sort of:
Yeah Matthews and tucker are my favourites.
It’s not a gay op. It’s the blind leading the blind. The guy running it is one of them.
They hate the system, but they’ve been so brainwashed by the (((conservative media))) that they don’t know why.
My grandma for example spends all day sending these chain emails to me and her friends. Instead of “we’re being replaced” she sends me “Nancy Pelosi is behind the riots.” It’s really sad.
no conspiracy theory cures erectile dysfunction. — jorge rafael mugabe
why does no one unnuhstan what i mean by this?
a synonym for ED is “impotence” which also means “without power”.
that is, conspiracy theories serve the psychical needs of the conspiracy theorist, his need to believe that he is a VIP even though all signs are to the contrary. the little man has to believe that the big man is evil. he can’t accept that he is inferior.
so the absurd conspiracy theory serves to maintain peace between rulers and ruled, maintain the power of the rulers.
it’s an exampe of “false consciousness”.
Hmm, am I to understand pumpkin is a Kevin Macdonald reader?
Thanks for this briefing on qanon. I’ve heard it mentioned a lot but never knew it’s premises. Okay, I agree most of the specifics are highly kooky, but how is any of it more outlandish than the Russia collusion hoax which the mainstream media and large portions of the governmental apparatus endorsed for several years in an effort to derail the executive any more absurd or more supported by evidence? It’s not, it’s only the authority behind the Russia collusion nonsense that legitimizes it.
Moreover, I would argue that qanon, again while absurd in its specifics, captures more truth in its broad outlines than the various leftist conspiracy theories. It’s most likely true that the political families and politicians are vassals to certain money powers. The scandal around epstein lends strong suspicion that some of the most powerful people in the land are ensnared in sexual blackmail schemes.
To say that someone should be fired for believing qanon, while others are promoted at cnn for spouting Russian collusion malarkey is subjective. It’s just whether one likes or hates trump.
I’ve never read MacDonald though I know who he is. QAnon contains a grain of truth that is exaggerated & distorted beyond all reason.
You shouldn’t upset melo like this. He believes the russia stuff.
What the Russians did is called targeted advertisement which is not illegal.
Trump telling Russians to do illegal campaign things is not illegal either if that is what he allegedly did.
The CIA/NSA is supposed to protect us from: the cyber threat. Russia could not do anything serious against us via elections. Voter machines are secure.
The Russia stuff is true though.
It’s as true as the fact that white women wish they were black LOL.
The is much misunderstanding on the Illuminati. Like how anyone can call themselves “Christian”. From my personal experience, the personality attitude is most important going beyond the surface level.
Enlightenment is not a religion or cult.
Pumpkin, if you practice a lot of block design items, and do completely new designs, would you show a practice effect?
Philosopher, I am ignorant.
I still do not see how the gentile elite was brainwashed by the Jewish elite.
I do not see how all that power shifted from one group to another. if it did?
Since the 1930s, the Jews have used their influence to vilify people who say counter-Semitic things.
What goes unsaid eventually goes unthought.
They also used mass media to indoctrinate people with philo-Semitic messages. yes, there was (and obviously is) some overlap between whats Good For The Jews and whats good for the WASPs, but it’s not complete.
If that is all they have done, why are people mad at them?
Black people did the same thing practically. (1960’s)
The only difference is that blacks average 85 IQ and Jews average 110.
Jews get more privileges just because of that fact.
No one has still looked at the real question I have.
How are the high IQ jews brainwashing the high IQ gentile elite?
Are the gentile elite dumb? I do not get what Phil is on about.
Maybe they can get away with more because they cry wolf but that is all?
People are mad because they don’t like the things being pushed.
But to answer your question, it’s fair to say that the gentile elite has been brainwashed. They believe a lot of things that are conspicuously untrue, like “institutional racism,” “race doesn’t exist,” and that whites don’t have legitimate group interests.
There are a couple reasons for this. One is that a lot of the elite just isn’t that smart. 115IQ cat ladies in the EPA are vulnerable to the constant avalanche of media, entertainment, and academic propaganda.
The other reason is that being successful selects for agreement with the ruling ideology. Who wants to be a CEO when you have to spend hundreds of hours a year mouthing off shitlib bullshit that you don’t believe in? It’d get really old, really fast. And the money isn’t worth it if you’re already well off to begin with, like most very smart people.
Liberal elites are just part of American elites. Avg american upper class are capitalist or economically “liberal”.
Both right and left are vulnerable to indoctrination. But rightists tend to be even worse .
I dont think elite gentiles believe any of that. Just look at the Koch Brothers.
They have their own agenda theyre just not consolidated like the Jewish agenda/elites are.
I think it depends on how you define elite. The Kochs don’t believe of any of it, but a lot of the lower level gentile elite does—like NGO heads, entrepreneurs, high level government employees, and middle management at major investment banks.
I always find funny but sad at the same time about these right winger conspirators who attacks liberal elites while totally unlook conservative elites…
Yes, conservatives are mainly responsible for destroying the American working class.
Amnesty in the 80s, destroying unions, never raising the minimum wage, paying illegal mexicans $4/hr, etc.
PP what do you think of the Hsu controversy at MSU?
typical
Link?
wrong answer!
the correct answer is no one should be fired for his opinions.
in other words, even if hsu were a member of the kkk and his favorite comedian was dick masterson, this is 100% irrelevant. no one should give a flying fuck.
my disagreements with hsu are many, my contempt for him much, but i would kill for his right to think and speak freely, without fear.
in america being fired is like going to prison.
the civil rights act needs to include minorities of opinion.
Why was he fired?
“baby eating Satanic Pedophile child trafficking elites”
These kinds of details makes it sound like a plant/controlled opposition for tards online. Also the amount of trust that people had in Trump is just astounding, did they really think that he was going to be the enemy of a group of people who are practically beyond accountability (if they do exist at all)?
My suspicion is that people were getting way too close to the truth with the pizzagate stuff so they decided to plant this baby eating nonsense to crap on the whole enterprise.
There was also a shooter they hired to go to the pizza place. We know they hired him because he has an IMDB profile as a failed actor.
We know they hired him because he has an IMDB profile as a failed actor.
citation needed
The typiical white conservative defend the same “royal” lineage who have opressed his relatives by generations.
inequality is justified by:
1. difference between people,
2. difference between peoples,
3. economic necessity.
4. but what if when one looks at another with contempt he imagines what the other might’ve been if he were from a country of his own people’s?
the ruling ideology only admits discussion of differences between people and peoples. it does NOT admit of differences between people which are occasioned or effaced by differences between peoples.
until very recently in human evolution…everyone developed and achieved or failed within a society of people closely related to himself.
Normal-inequality
=/=
Parasitical-inequality
a concrete example of this is…
there are some US states and small cities where blacks are so few that they can’t form a community or be segretated by “racism”.
i’ve put this challenge to rr before and he ignored it because baizu-tard…
blacks of portland maine vs blacks of mississippi?
the difference is the difference i alluded to above…
namely, blacks can’t form a ghetto in portland maine…
do they score higher?
i’d bet they do.
by a lot.
vs the mississippi blacks or detroit blacks.
but even if they did score higher, it could be because smarter blacks migrate to integrated communities. Only transracial adoption studies can untangle cause from effect.
“but even if they did score higher, it could be because smarter blacks migrate to integrated communities”
This was refuted by Kleinberg in 1928. That’s where the hypothesis originated, in fact (Mensh and Mensh in The IQ Mythology discuss this). IQ-ists of the time formulated the selective migration thesis to explain why blacks that migrated outscored white and southern blacks. The answer is school quality. Not surprising that, almost 100 years after its formulation, it’s still being used today.
“Only transracial adoption studies can untangle cause from effect.”
No, they can’t.
The answer is school quality.
so an all black school in mississippi is just as good as an almost all white school in portland maine? so just one black in a school makes it as bad as an all black school? by “score higher” i meant “score higher relative to whites” that is the test score gap would shrink even if whites in maine scored a lot higher than whites in mississippi.
i’ve put a hit out on rr via my connections in the genovese crime family. but by “hit” i just mean they’ll forcibly cut rr’s hair.
and i’m talking about TODAY.
the difference in IQ scores between whites of the former confederacy and yankees i’d guess is only 1 or 2 points. especially as there are no itialians in the south outside new orleans.
We
Because IQ, personality…
RR:
Too reductionist
RR:
It’s school quality
RR next step
Women don’t exist , just people who menstruates
There actually might be an opposite effect of a black living with other blacks culturally dragging him down. So for example, you could take a high IQ black and raise him in Detroit and he would score lower than his potential.
One of the few instances that Mugabe and Philo are correct.
Blacks are bad influences on other blacks.
Also why segregation was rightfully outlawed.
McDonald always say about white responsibility for Jewish superpower not just to blame “jews” alone. But, I thought left wing and jewish historians have emphasize white Christian bad behaviors and underlook’d muslims and jews bad behaviors specially towards christian whites.
Just accept all historical facts of both sides and stop to think in history & politics as sports fans, piriod.
“Jews” found a corruptible society built by white europeans. It was not difficult for them to learn the same imoral tricks required to take and stay in the top.
this also explains why europeans and canadians and yankees can…
these people are WAY more racist than southern whites.
WAY.
but the blacks they know, if they know any, are separated from a black community. the cultural difference is elided.
I don’t think differences in IQ is the most controversial part of HBD. I think its differences in temperament and personality. That stuff is waaaay more controversial.
Melo you must be the only person that has made it to a dark corner of the web like this where they tell truth and yet somehow managed to still believe everything CNN says.
God I hate CNN and I think it speaks volumes on your reading comprehension that you think I support them.
I actually believe the opposite – that black women want to be white women. Theres a very famous study of dolls and different races of girls all choosing the blond barbie. I can’t remember the exact details but I believe it ‘proves’ that there is a feminine ideal, even held by black girls themselves.
You believe that because you’re out of touch with reality. Loaded and I know the truth because we’re around it everyday.
Being black=being cool
That’s why every white chick wants a fat ass and a tan.
The only thing I see non-white women possibly being jealous of is the hair color and stuff.
^^^ NEEDS MEDICATION
Speaking of, have you been taking yours?
You’ve been quite ornery lately.
Paper bag test. Yeah blacks envy whites.
Im 90% sure john podesta is a paedophile. That part is true I think. And I wouldnt be surprised if they were using paedophilia to blackmail senior US politicians and officials into constantly invading israel’s enemies and handing over the Treasury to Goldman Sachs.
I don’t know anything about pizzagate so I can’t comment on whether the internet theories against podesta are credible or just more nonsense. This article lists almost all the people in epstein’s social circle, so it might include those who were blackmailed and/or doing the blackmailing:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-high-society-contacts.html
Hillary comments on pizzagate:
ryan dawson & eric weinstein think epstein was blackmailing people for an intelligence agency:
In Brazil, leftwing workers party created an alternative version about what happened from the 2013 massive, popular and multiparty manifestations against Brazil politics corruption, Dilma’s impeachment in 2016 and president election In 2018. They blame EXCLUSIVELY big media and massive fake news system created by brazilian extreme right wing to manipulate avg people to vote on bozzonaro in 2018 election and hate the lefts. It’s true the existence of this fake news system, partially true the “workers party”‘s demonization by big or traditional media BUT corruption was big, workers party’sgovernment attacked protesters in 2013, pushed two big international events (world cup in 2014 and olympiad in 2016), well known to be quite expensive, allied with old conservative and corrupted elites, betraying many people who voted on them, built a disastrious hydroeletric in one of major amazon rivers,etc…
They invested and keep repeating this narrative to overshadow their mistakes and a big one that resulted in bozzonaro election. Seems ”Russian interference” on trump election is the democrat party’s alternative narrative to blame everyone less them for their numerous mistakes specially trump election.
Pumpkin, would the information and comprehension subtests be underestimated in bilinguals?
Human evolution = equality??
That’s awesome. I have to see that movie!
That’s a beautiful movie. I recommend it.
Yeah very good movie.
Yay
Trump thought Finland was part of Russia and did not know that the United Kingdom had nuclear weapons, says his former national security adviser John Bolton in a book to be published next week. Scandals are much bigger than ignorance, according to the book
finland was part of the russian empire until 1917.
does trump know ISRAEL has nukes?
He probably thought Finland is part of Russia. I know about that, even Karelians ethnically resemble finn people.
the rolf case in georgia actually seems much clearer than the chauvin case.
BUT just that he’s guilty of something…NOT capital murder!!!
and the same media has promoted the idea that tazers can be a deadly weapon.
iiuc the police are trained to shoot to kill.
i’d change that.
but the police are para-military and war crimes happen…
because you can’t refer to the marquess of queensbury rules when you have less than second to respond.
Yeah police have tried arguing in court that takers aren’t lethal. And by Georgia let when cops are being trained they have to be tased. There was a small chance of rayshard killing the officer with it so the shooting was not justified.
Some people tried saying that he could’ve tried to kill the officer after tasing but that’s bullshit, the dude would’ve just kept running.
Reaching for a taser is not justification for homicide either. But I completely understand why it happened. It still proves that Officers need to be trained more.
but raychard wasn’t that drunk supposedly.
how is that possible when you fall asleep in a drive through?
but if it were and i was a cop i’d say, “ok. back up. park your car. call someone to pick you up.” not ticket. no nothing.
I agree, especially for someone like Raychard. That DUI probably would’ve ruined his life because stolen vehicle, no registration, unpaid citations, previous DUIs, etc.
no. all those whould be reasons to arrest him you fucking moron.
I believe he blew a .1 it was probably way higher before he was sleeping.
Not a good day for “HBD”:
Rushton and Templer’s (2012) paper on the melanocortin system and it’s purported relationship with behavioral traits for retracted by PAID.
Personality and Individual Differences Retracts Rushton and Templer Article
Personality and Individual Differences has taken the decision to retract the review article Rushton, J.P., Templer, D.I. (2012). Do pigmentation and the melanocortin system modulate aggression and sexuality in humans as they do in other animals? Personality and Individual Differences, 53, 4-8. This retraction comes after a thorough review of the published article, the sources cited within the article, and critical comments from readers. The retraction notice is currently being finalized and will appear in the journal imminently.
https://www.journals.elsevier.com/personality-and-individual-differences/announcements/rushton-and-templer-article
See my critique
https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2018/02/15/do-pigmentation-and-the-melanocortin-system-modulate-aggression-and-sexuality-in-humans-as-they-do-in-other-animals-a-response-to-rushton-and-templer-2012/
And evopsychgoogle’s critique
View at Medium.com
And Clark et al retracted their paper on IQ, religiosity and crime
They “lost confidence in their findings” since “the homicide data have limitations that call [their] into question” while “The IQ data … have much more serious issues.”
^^^HOW IS IT ACTUALLY POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE TO BE AS DUMB AS RR?^^^
this video reminds me of rr.
Poorly designed studies =/= proved innate racial differences don’t exist,.
I remember when I used to believe in “innate” traits.
I do too.
Don’t worry RR some people just mature faster than others. You’re smarter than the vast majority of users here.
Sorry, my incapacity to reach your level is inexcusable. Some day i hope i can!!
I have high hopes for you santo.
One day you’ll be as intelligent, attractive, and well endowed like I am
Just keep trying bro
What? Not a good day for HBD? One article about a specific potential dimension of HBD gets retracted, out of possibly thousands(god knows why, maybe there’s a valid reason maybe it’s purely political) and somehow this impacts HBD such that it is “not a good day” for it? This would be like Federer dropping a point in the 4th game of the 2nd set on his way to decisively winning a match and calling that “not a good day” for possibly the best tennis player that ever picked up a racket.
RR, I actually admire your composure and your ability to remain civil despite people attacking you personally after they are at their witt’s end with your absolute drivel. Yes you’re full of shit, yes you may be in some ways cognitively impaired but you keep your cool which is something that bodes well for you…but seriously dude, get a grip of yourself.
Tell you what, here’s a good way to work out whether you are someone who at the very least has the capacity to come up with something worth listening to. Choose a game, any game, one which you think you are really good at(chess, backgammon, sudoku, poker, scrabble, perhaps even a video game, anything that requires you to use your brain beyond just regurgitating what you heard that day in class) and try to compete with the best at this game for a year or two. If you can enter the top 5% of that game then your brain might be capable of producing something worthwhile. Note, being capable of producing worthy content and actually doing it is a different story, but at least we’ll know that perhaps at some point that potential will kick in and you will surprise us all. Until you can excel really well at something like this, I think you should really try to re-evaluate your position, get a reality check, start working on your thinking(before it’s too late) and maybe get yourself on the right track.
Note there are many many games(non physical, that require thinking) out there which you can try your hand at, so there’s no excuse, surely there’s something that tickles your fancy which you won’t have some excuse for why you’re under-performing. But make sure you’re actually competing with the best at this game and that you make a legitimate attempt at gauging your competence at it with respect to the top 5% of that game. Until you do that and come to us with proof of your ability I really think you are wasting your time and what’s worse you are wasting everyone else’s time. You’d be like that fool that convinced himself that he is capable of worthwhile higher reasoning with absolutely no proof or accomplishment to back up this assertion of his all while taking it upon himself to “educate” the masses while disregarding any opposing view or criticism with the most asinine responses.
Good advise
Do the same for yourself
I treat online debates as arenas . RR treat them as university classes.
What i said thousand times, he cant think by himself, be minimally capable to write with his own words. His intelectual improvisation is very underdeveloped.
“What? Not a good day for HBD? One article about a specific potential dimension of HBD gets retracted, out of possibly thousands(god knows why, maybe there’s a valid reason maybe it’s purely political) and somehow this impacts HBD such that it is “not a good day” for it? This would be like Federer dropping a point in the 4th game of the 2nd set on his way to decisively winning a match and calling that “not a good day” for possibly the best tennis player that ever picked up a racket.”
Yea, I didn’t st-stutter. One proposed mechanism is retracted—the paper never should have been published. Read my 2018 comments and EPG’s 2019 comments. It’s not a good day for a movement when a major hypothesis is retracted. Psychologists once again showing their ignorance on physiology.
“RR, I actually admire your composure and your ability to remain civil despite people attacking you personally after they are at their witt’s end with your absolute drivel. Yes you’re full of shit, yes you may be in some ways cognitively impaired but you keep your cool which is something that bodes well for you…but seriously dude, get a grip of yourself.”
Thanks. You guys are just words on a screen to me—why would I let that get to me? In any case this isn’t relevant to my comment. I’m not here to talk about myself.
“Tell you what, here’s a good way to work out whether you are someone who at the very least has the capacity to come up with something worth listening to. Choose a game, any game, one which you think you are really good at(chess, backgammon, sudoku, poker, scrabble, perhaps even a video game, anything that requires you to use your brain beyond just regurgitating what you heard that day in class) and try to compete with the best at this game for a year or two. If you can enter the top 5% of that game then your brain might be capable of producing something worthwhile. Note, being capable of producing worthy content and actually doing it is a different story, but at least we’ll know that perhaps at some point that potential will kick in and you will surprise us all. Until you can excel really well at something like this, I think you should really try to re-evaluate your position, get a reality check, start working on your thinking(before it’s too late) and maybe get yourself on the right track.
Note there are many many games(non physical, that require thinking) out there which you can try your hand at, so there’s no excuse, surely there’s something that tickles your fancy which you won’t have some excuse for why you’re under-performing. But make sure you’re actually competing with the best at this game and that you make a legitimate attempt at gauging your competence at it with respect to the top 5% of that game. Until you do that and come to us with proof of your ability I really think you are wasting your time and what’s worse you are wasting everyone else’s time. You’d be like that fool that convinced himself that he is capable of worthwhile higher reasoning with absolutely no proof or accomplishment to back up this assertion of his all while taking it upon himself to “educate” the masses while disregarding any opposing view or criticism with the most asinine responses.”
I don’t understand why you wasted your time typing this. It’s irrelevant to my comment.
Will you defend the papers or not?
Note by top 5% I don’t mean the best 20 of the top 100, I mean the top 5% of a ranked game, or something equivalent to that.
For example with chess, the equivalent to the top 5% would be an ELO rating of about 2200 or a FIDE ranking of ~25,000 out of some 500,000 currently registered players. Sudoku has an interesting site that actually gives you a percentile of your performance(top 10%, 8%, 5% etc) relative to anyone who ever completed a puzzle at that particular level. Backgammon probably has something similar, while scrabble and poker might be a little harder to gauge but not impossible if you are keen enough to find out.
So, show us what you’re made of because so far all i see is a cognitively unimpressive post-modernist contrarian.
Here’s a better question for RR:
Do you believe any person can be good at anything if they try hard enough? Do you believe all men are “created” equal?
I know what you’ll say (at least I have a good idea). If others are STILL confused, it’s means they’re stupid. If they finally understand your views then I’ll eat my words.
Also, i hear you are a personal trainer of sorts while also attending college. Which college and what degree? What other qualifications do you have?
RR is a misunderstood genius.
Stop with the sarcasm
Buddy, I don’t care what you think about me—will you defend the Rushton-Templer/Clark et al papers or not?
KJQ
“Good advise
Do the same for yourself”
I have, the list is long but here are a few points: My chess rating is ~2300 from a couple of weeks worth of playing on a reputable chess site. I could probably do better but I’d have to devote a lot more of my time to reach IM level. My backgammon is equally good if not better. Generally I’m very good at strategy games, have a masters in STEM from high ranking universities in the US and the UK and well I’ve mentioned my IQ on this blog before.
Now I’m not telling you these things in order to brag, nor did I engage in these activities in order to collect accolades. I did it because I enjoy them, am inclined to be good at them, it helps sharpen the mind and because from a very young age I learned that in order to talk the talk you need to be able to walk the walk. In other words I was highly self conscious of being pretentious and averse to pretentious people that talk out of their asses. I realized that in order for me to be able to assert myself and defend my positions with any real substantive confidence and integrity I needed to prove that I was capable of top tier thinking. That is not to say that in order to think and debate you need a degree, or a FIDE ranking, actually all you need is a good well thought out argument and a keen intellect. Problem is there is no better way to sharpen your mind and get an accurate appreciation of what you’re capable of and where your limits are than to engage in these sorts of things. No one is born with an innate ability to know exactly where they stand with respect to other people without putting themselves to the test. What healthy people are born with is a reasonable amount of self belief but all too often that self belief leads them down the wrong path if it is not properly put to the test and calibrated against reality from time to time. Of course isn’t it convenient for some people to simply reject “tests” all together so that they don’t even have to challenge their self belief. They can simply go around taking any position their brain conjures up, defend it with all sorts of nonsense and never have to admit to themselves or anyone else that they are wrong or not as smart as they think they are.
So I’m not saying I’m always right, I may sometimes be wrong, but at least I’ve structured my way of functioning in a strict reality based way. I’ve hit enough milestones to know what I’m capable of, thereafter i follow a strict regiment in order to ensure i don’t start slacking in my thinking and my performance(you won’t believe how many times some super smart people become lazy in their thinking). That is what it takes to be capable of producing the goods, then starts the incredibly arduous task of actually producing them. RR is not only utterly ill equipped to play ball in the majors he insists on rolling up to the game wearing flip flops and uses a pool noodle as a bat.
KJQ
“I treat online debates as arenas ”
Yes I realize that(you get a little too overzealous at times), it’s not a bad idea, good way to sharpen your skills and refine your positions, provided you are willing to admit your positions can use a little bit of improvement. RR is simply incapable of that.
“RR treat them as university classes.
What i said thousand times, he cant think by himself, be minimally capable to write with his own words. His intelectual improvisation is very underdeveloped.”
For once I can say that I am fully in agreement with you, well said.
“I don’t understand why you wasted your time typing this. It’s irrelevant to my comment.
Will you defend the papers or not?”
In order for me to engage in debate with you I want proof that you are worth my time. What are your qualifications and accomplishments? Give me a sign, something to show that you are not just another internet ploppy(which is what seems to be the case so far) with a conviction forged in the heart of a dying star(that’s not a compliment btw).
“In order for me to engage in debate with you I want proof that you are worth my time. What are your qualifications and accomplishments?”
OK I see we’re done here.
“RR treat them as university classes.
What i said thousand times, he cant think by himself, be minimally capable to write with his own words. His intelectual improvisation is very underdeveloped”
Imagine actually believing this.
“Do you believe any person can be good at anything if they try hard enough?”
I think there are many ways I can answer your questions and we can nail details later.
I believe that biofatalistic views (which are, in my opinion, pushed by hereditarians) are harmful to people and how they perceive themselves which then affects their actualized potential. People are capable of so much more than they think, and whether it’s due to laziness, ignorance (though both of these can be combined), what they hear from other people about their perceived abilities and how they ultimately end up feeling about themselves (they then create self-fulfilling prophecies). “Trying hard enough” is relative, I think. So what is “trying hard” for one may not be trying hard for another. Some people grasp things better than others their first couple times—which means they then can acquire more neural circuits and a better mind-muscle connection and—and with the confidence that comes from what comes easily to them will then boost them up even higher.
The question about whether people can be “equal” in “ability” is a nonsense one. I think it’s the wrong question to ask. It depends on what the “thing’ is that one may become good at. I have never—ever—worked with someone in my life that did not become good—and by “good” I mean having outstanding form and understanding the cues they are told while performing the lift—so my answer to your question—at least when it comes to the weight room—is an unequivocal “Yes.”
This is a good question and I’ll probably expand on this in an article.
“Do you believe all men are “created” equal?”
By “created” I take it you mean “born equal”? This is vague—can you expand? Do you mean “equal in abilities”? Moral-value? I think that egalitarianism is false since bringing the people who are better-off down makes no one better so if egalitarianism is true that would mean it would be good to bring those that are better-off down so egalitarianism is false. Parfit’s leveling-down objection against egalitarianism is good (just-described).
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But, personally, I think that we have a moral obligation to bring those that have less up, such as monetary inequality. I don’t think that we have a moral obligation to eliminate inequality—that is impossible. But I don’t think that people should be living just scraping by on pennies. I also think that we should be teaching more about nutrition and healthy eating at an early age, with efforts particularly aimed at lower-income neighborhoods. Being food-secure is imperative; having basic knowledge about what to eat and how to eat it is important; most importantly the many food swamps across the country which enable bad eating patterns which then affects other aspects of the individual’s life. Such inequalities are big, in my view, and they are a driving force for many social ills. If you don’t have money and little to no access to good, healthy food; are bombarded with daily advertisements; working two jobs supporting kids. then you have no time to cook so you’re going to most likely buy what you’re advertised—the fast-food restaurants at every corner.
Hopefully “mY wOrDs” were good enough for Santo.
Now, does anyone want to discuss the retractions?
PH
IQ is a quantitative
Rationality is qualitative.
There are LOTS of “high IQ people ” who are sociopaths and or irrational. That’s why you believe “life x ‘economy'” supposedly deserves even a discussion (actually doesn’t). Capitalism is an idiocracy. Trump as a president of the American colosseum is a tragedy. True philosophical society is an intellectocracy. Elites must be smarter, emotionally warmer and rational. Elites must lead, organize and not exploit and opress. It’s painfully obvious. Rationality is fundamental and IQ It’s not causal for ir. It’s a big problem.
IQ measure facets or pieces of human intelligence separately without real contexts. That’s why It’s a TEST.
Rationality is the human intelligence in real time, totally integrated and in interaction to the constant flow of information.
Rationality can’t has a test because It’s human intellect in real time.
I don’t and never deny IQ strengthness but i know creativiity and rationality are fundaments for human intelligence and IQ simply don’t and can’t measure them properly. Unfortunately some or many people start to believe they are absolutely smarter because their IQ scores. It’s already a fail to reach intelligent perception in real world.
Be more specific about your “advises” (if there is plural for this i will not search it now) if you don’t want to just pretendness.
autism is sad. but not as sad as autism together with ridiculous hair.
…so my answer to your question—at least when it comes to the weight room—is an unequivocal “Yes.”…
because i am a skinny guido who can’t accept his inferiority to arnold and Magnús Ver Magnússon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_conquest_of_southern_Italy
Melo what did you think my answers would be?
RR,
” Some people grasp things better than others their first couple times”
What do you think causes this?
“I think it’s the wrong question to ask.”
I do’t think you quite understood my question. I think we can both agree that one’s ability (at least in the wieght room) is highly dpenedent upon how hard they work, but I’m asking you whetehr you think one person sucess isnt as great as another simply because they didn’t work hard enough.
The reason I ask this question is because I believe most people here mistake your position and believe that when you speak of nevironment they aren’t taking into account there are different types of environment.
For example malnutrition and practise are both exogenous factors that affect one’s cognitive performance, but they are still inherently different.
To the first two questions, I don’t know. For the first, maybe they like it more and that’s why they pick it up quicker? I think the weight room example I have suffices and states my position in at least that area. I am also open to the idea that everyone has similar potential (when it comes to cognition) and that different environments lead to different abilities. (This was one finding in a study on different Jewish cultures.)
As for your clarified question, assuming a few things, I would be leaning maybe to yes but it depends what we’re talking about. I think it’d be context-dependent. But the existence of “ability ceilings” is neither falsifiable or verifiable, in any case. (See John White.)
My sister showed me a video à Jane Elliott introduces by Oprah. This Jane is not only stupid but an anti-white criminal.
She was saying maps have been built by whites to make their country look bigger and those of the brown people smaller.
For example Groenland looking the same size as African when it’s 14 times smaller.
she never says that
1) there is a natural distorsion when you go from 3D to 2D
2) we chose in 1500 century the Mercator projection because it conserves real angle at all points in the map and that’s what wanted the navigators. The East-west and north-south distorsions are just consequences of this choice. But since 1200 there were also stereotypical projection or sinusoïdal.
3) White people don’t need any trick. When the bad the atomic bomb, they could have submitted or killed all non white people on earth . If they didn’t it’s because they were shifting from the power stance that had always prevailed among every nation. They don’t have any need to make Africa look small
So this Lady as being put in small black kids the idea that white are cheaters and Myers who try to magnify themselves at the expanse of blacks when the conclusion should have been white have been supremely merciful with other races
Bruno autism strikes again.
Be anti white is not be criminal
White race has been collectively and globally criminal for centuries .
“WE chose in 1500”
We??
Connotative language, buddy
Be careful with that
“WHITES are cheaters”
Every white???
Why the center of Globe is always Europe??
Eurocentrism is real as heliocentrism was.
I only agree that mercator geographical projection was not made to favor europeans over africans but i don’t know why. Maybe it does or because lack of knowlledge of african continent.
“Whites has been SUPREMELY MERCIFUL with other races”
Are you allergic to history book, Bumo??
Learn what is connotative and denotative language.
These sentences of overly generalizations are implicit connotative language passing as denotative.
Whites, blacks, jews…
All them are large and diverse groups of people. When you says “WHITES do …” It’s sound utterly stupid.
Yeah my post was excessive because I just hang up with my sister who had been totally convinced by the stupid stuff this lady was spreading.
But then, she saw this lady was really misintepretating things even if my sister thinks whites are guilty for black slavery.
For me it was more the illogic aspect that was most’ irritating. In that I wouldn’t argue with the « autism strikes again » stuff that made me smile
“Why the center of Globe is always Europe??
No one in Europe(or of European descent) thinks that it is the center of the world but it would actually help to dissipate this idea if non Europeans weren’t so bloody obsessed with us.
“Eurocentrism is real as heliocentrism was.”
Don’t confuse concern or interest in oneself or one’s culture with excessive self absorption or conceit. Or is it that all you non Europeans are banging on about racism and slavery and “all the evils of the white man” in order to wear us down, get us to self loathe and self destruct and then exploit us? You lot got to be careful with that, the last time Europeans self destructed we had the second world war, and that was before nuclear weapons. Not saying this as a threat but rather a warning, this incessant shaming and guilt hustling by blacks and other minorities is not only immoral and insidious it is also dangerous(for something no one alive today is responsible for no less). The only saving grace is that all too often the arguments you lot put up are incredibly comical, so most rational people don’t know whether to laugh or feel sorry for you.
The same gigantic comments full of shit
Self aggrandizement ( It’s sound pathological..)
Boringness (large sentences to say things like “hi my name is toddy”)
Fallacies as a norm (try learn how to think)
And histeria (i’m the only one here who are overly emotional… yesssss only one)
You are irrational
Just try to analyse your gigantic and pedantic comments to see how strastopheric is your self conception.
God??
Oh here we go doofus strikes again!
“Self aggrandizement ( It’s sound pathological..)”
Alright I’ll bite, so what in what i wrote, in response to your incredibly insulting comments btw, do you consider self aggrandizing(ie somehow bigging MYself up)? Is it not true that all you minorities keep banging on about is white people this, white people that, colonialism, slavery(from 200 fucking years ago), the scientific method is racist, the enlightenment is racist, inequality this inequality that, all disparities are due to racism, why won’t white men let me suck their d!<k, gimme gimme gimme more stuff you evil whitey(clarification: not all people within minorities but a sizable percentage). Do you lot listen to yourselves, you are fucking obsessed. Get over it already, if you don't like white people, go to a country that wasn't built by white people and you can whine all you want there. This is getting ridiculous at this point. If I was American I would urge my government to sit down work out a fair and reasonable reparations bill, pay it off and get these race obsessed, race baiting, pathetic losers off everyone's back.
"The same gigantic comments full of shit"
"Boringness (large sentences to say things like “hi my name is toddy”)"
Hmmm if I were to take a guess i would say you don't agree with my arguments, although for the life of my i can't seem to find out why anywhere in your response, hmm that's interesting. Anyway, if you have ever read a scientific paper or a serious argument you will find that they are long and tedious, crossing every t dotting every i and making sure that dullards such as yourself can understand it and follow the line of reasoning. But alas it is all to no avail, you are about as smart as a box of rocks. Pray tell what are YOUR qualifications? I keep pressuring RR about this(avoids addressing my questions like the plague) but what exactly makes you think you are capable of higher level rational thought, have you tested yourself at all in life or like RR have you rejected every sign that you might not be cut out for this sort of thing? Do you have any formal training, college, high IQ, accomplishments, something?
Mind you your above comment was one big ad hom attack, no real substantive argumentation, just a whole lot of crying and finger pointing.
"You are irrational
Just try to analyse your gigantic and pedantic comments to see how strastopheric is your self conception."
Alright, so says you, tell me where you see this and why. Don't make claims without even so much as alluding to the reason why you think this. This is primary school level debate, learn how to debate like an adult.
Also all you tossers need to stop pretending like racism and slavery was invented by white people. I would say pick up a history book or try to visit other countries in the world and you will soon find out that racism and bigotry is nowhere near as bad withing white people as it is in non-white nations. In fact ideas of egalitarianism and racial equality under the law were invented by white people so get your bloody heads out of your asses and stop acting like all the reasons why you’re some internet loser is because of “the evil white man”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott
Is she jewish?
As soon as Bruno mentioned her I thought “good thing pill doesn’t know she’s Jewish”. But apparently you kind of do
Its says her father’s father is Irish but doesn’t mention her grandmother or mother. But ‘Elliot’ is a common jewish surname.
Once again Puppy drops the ball and chooses to give coverage to a freakshow conspiracy theory. When will puppy talk about the real conspiracy of jewish power? Never.
And historical conspiracy of white power??
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/06/united-states-china-power-influence/612961/
[redacted by pp, june 18, 2020]. When I listen to president trump on fox news I’m listening to an expert salesperson. Everything he says is (a) memorable (b) simple. Understanding how people think is 1 aspect but the other aspect is convincing someone to do something which basically the majority of people can’t do.
no one denies he’s socially intelligent, except melo
I don’t think he’s socially deficient. I just think people relate because he’s as dumb as them.
He’s obviously not dumb if he’s a billionaire with a supermodel wife and the president. Idiot.
Pill intellectual extension in one sentence…
Wow, Philo unrionically believes that.
Pill believes successful whites are intelligent & successful Jews are geniuses but successful blacks are just magic negroes who owe all their success to Jews.
He has a good imagination but lacks the logic & memory to be a first rate thinker.
Children have good imagination but lack the logic & memory to be first rate thinkers.
Philo may be a child.
For clarification: I actually am in favor of a serious attempt to work out if reparations are warranted, I have thought of some interesting ways to get to the bottom of it but suspect that at the end of the day it would be very very difficult to get there(but not impossible). Though i don’t think the reparations due in the end will be as high a figure as some people in the black community are hoping for. Reasons for conclusion are the following;
In favor:
1) Well It goes without saying that blacks were incredibly wronged while the impact it had is still reverberating today in some way, therefore any reasonable person would admit that recourse is legitimate and necessarily.
Sticking points:
1) It is as far as I know illegal and unethical to retroactively try someone with a newly passed law. For example If they change the drinking age to 22 they can’t fine you for drinking alcohol 10 years ago when you turned 21. So this idea that we can not only judge people from the past based on 21st century sensibilities but we can also legally try them for something we find reprehensible and today consider illegal, is well seriously problematic to say the least. If it was legal then and was also commonly practices throughout the world for millennia, we may not like it but we really can’t judge these people too harshly for their actions nor can we legitimately try them for those actions.
2) You can’t seek damages from the son for the crimes of the father let alone assume collective guilt and seek damages from an entire race. You can however seek damages from the father’s estate and to the degree that any inheritance passed on from specific slave owners is traceable today then IMO damages can be sought, up to the amount of that estate paid to specific slave descendants(provided they can prove they are descendants of that slave). For example if the slave owner left a house behind or land then that house or land can be used to pay off damages. What we cannot do is also seek to retrieve property or wealth that was acquired by the slave owners descendants outside of his estate. So if the slave owner left a plot of land and the damages sought are equivalent to two plots then the descendant is not required to hand over anything beyond what was given to him by his ancestor.
3) As you can probably tell working out what is owed is a logistical nightmare particularly when the black community has been the primary benefactor of the welfare system. One could argue that they are in this predicament because of slavery but nevertheless one needs to account for this at the very least as a down payment. Some argue this more than covers it but some serious accounting needs to be done before this is worked out and i don’t think anyone has done the necessary work yet.
4) An argument could be made although invariably crassly that were it not for slavery blacks would not be living in the most prosperous nation on earth today instead they would be living in some African nation. Regardless of how insensitive and possibly insulting such an argument is it is in fact a valid one. It does not negate the wrong that was done but it is something that an honest analysis needs to consider.
5) Most of the slaves were paid for, either to African slave owners or to the slave traders that brought them to the US. If the slave trader kidnapped the slaves then that compounds the issue but if they were fairly traded for then it is hard to make an argument that by the time the slave got to the Americas there was a grave injustice perpetrated by the eventual owner. Remember it was legal at the time and most were acquired presumably in exchange for money. So as far as the slave owner was concerned he did not break any laws.
So my conclusion is that once we factor the above points(and some others that I am forgetting right now) a reasonable point to start is by considering this a wage theft. We can start by working out what is owed to a particular slave in terms of wages. Given that they were only minimally housed clothed and fed there must be quite a lot in wages that they would be due but were never paid. So IMO a lifetime wage needs to be worked out less the cost of living. Then tallied for all the slaves over the 250 years. It may be possible to use sophisticated DNA testing to work out how far back a black person today can trace their ancestors in the US. This way the number of generations they can claim unpaid dues for is worked out. Crosschecking with records may in fact make this somewhat possible.
Then all the wealth passed on by slave owners needs to be worked out and identified(if it still exists today, if not then no one living today is liable for it). Note that not all that wealth is necessarily required to pay off what is due while how much is taken from each estate should be worked out by how many slaves were owned at the time or some rough estimate of this. Once all claimants are tallied and what they are due is worked out then slave owner wealth is pooled to pay it off to the surviving descendants. If that covers it then case closed if not that will have to do and once again case closed.
The reasons i think wages due is sufficient and not more is reasonably necessary(like kidnapping charges, deprivation of human rights etc) are outlined above. It is very difficult to justify forcing someone today to pay for the sins of someone 200 years ago. Even less rational is this idea of collective guilt such that the state itself or all white tax payers should have to foot the bill, even the ones who have no slaver ancestors. Of course we simply cannot retroactively try people for newly passed laws, if we started doing this most people would have to go to jail. So for these reasons I think that the best and most reasonable course of action is by looking at this as a form of wage theft or unpaid wages. It may be possible to consider other mitigating factors such as welfare and other benefits the african american community has already had and adjusted accordingly.
I am not going to pretend this is easy to work out nor that my reasoning makes ultimate sense(no one knows the full extent that such a precedent would create), it may actually prove to be impossible but at least a serious and honest attempt needs to be made IMHO.
Further to my argument I have tried to crunch some numbers to get a rough estimate of what a reparations bill would look like. I work out that blacks have benefited around 6.4 trillion in welfare since 1964(of the roughly 22 trillion overall) while they have contributed about 1.4 trillion to it. This leaves roughly 5 trillion net in benefit for black people which was almost entirely paid for by whites.
Based on some extremely rough estimates(note these are ballpark figures to get a rough idea, not meant to be taken as a certifiable given) there have lived on average 1.5 million slaves in the US from 1750 to the 1860s per year(prior to 1750 the numbers of slaves were so few that it would not impact my calculations by much). Assuming a net salary of 30k per year(in today’s money, above minimum wage while living costs are factored in) over 110 years this leaves us with 4.95 trillion owed. At this point it may well be that we can call this even steven however lets assume that about another 100 billion were owed up to 1750 and lets throw in another 200 billion for good measure and so by my calculations no more than 300 billion could be reasonably paid in reparations. Assuming that roughly 90% of US blacks can trace ancestry to slaves and that this ancestry is equal across the board we can simplify our calculations and work out that no more than 10k is due to each eligible black person living today because of slavery.
Now if you ask me they should not ask for a lump sum and they should also put a significant portion of that to helping some of their worst struck communities. So lets say they put 50% of that aside that leaves 5k which could be given as a check of 1k per year for the next 5 years.
Of course this is all hypothetical and it may well be that reparations have been paid and then some, which is why it may actually make more sense to stop raging on about reparations as this will increase the chance the US government will continue to provide significant aid well into the future thereby making it a far more beneficial proposition for black people in the long run. Or they could keep demanding reparations end up angering whites if they eventually get it at which point the welfare system might get abolished altogether. Hmm quite the conundrum, now I see why some highly intelligent black people(Coleman Hughes and others, very impressive young man) actually reject the idea of reparations.
Anyway I still think it could be a good symbolic gesture and perhaps a good way to make amends and put this thing to bed once and for all.
This is populated by high IQ people who are false positive for
Rationality
Creativiity
Sadly so
If you have one iota of actual creativity and not this schizophrenic gibberish you keep churning out at an alarming rate, then I will change my username to anything you want. As for your supposed rationality it is even more non existent than your fictitious creativity.
I mean, what makes you think you are creative, are you a musician, an artist, a dancer, do you have any talent whatsoever in a creative domain? Have you tried taking a divergent thinking test to see if you can produce creative thought? Where did you conjure up this insanity that somehow the nonsense you post day in day out has anything to do with creativity or rationality you certifiable nutter?