So last night on Fox news, Bill O’Reilly advanced the thesis that President Obama has emotional ties to Islam and this influences his foreign policy.
If you believe in ethnic genetic interests, at first glance this makes no sense because Islam is not a race, although it does tend to correlate with dark Caucasoid ancestry. Nonetheless, Obama is not a dark Caucasoid or an Arab, despite what this McCain supporter famously claimed:
However I believe ethnic genetic interests work through proxies, like appearance and culture. If Obama grew up exposed to Muslim cultures, and if his mixed race background gave him a vaguely Arab appearance, then his genes might essentially be tricked into thinking he’s a dark Caucasoid, and thus feeling compassion for Arabs, even though intellectually he knows he’s not.
But has Obama advanced Arab genetic interests? According to Canadian blogger Brandon Martinez, the notion that Obama is pro-Muslim is idiotic:
So either:
Obama has no special sympathies for the Muslim world and claims to the contrary are just neocon propaganda
Obama does have sympathies for the Muslim World, but is being tricked by his advisors
Obama has sympathies for the Muslim World, but faces so much opposition, that there’s very little he can do for them.
Intellectual Non-Whites tend to like Arabs because they really are the only people who have contributed to modern western civilization other than Euros, who they have been discriminated against by…. plus many Arabs do have such Saharan ancestry
SSA admixture in Arabs is minuscule. It’s also found in their mtDNA, which makes sense since they castrated male slaves.
You’re really talking about Iranians (or Persians), who were the majority of the greatest Islamic thinkers, and not Arabs.
Intellectual Whites have high opinions of the Islamic Golden Age. It’s really the proles and low status academics who get into this Islamophobe diatribe.
Very much true. And yes, I was more specifically referring to Persians, although medical advances (i.e. basic surgical procedures) were Arab, Persian, and East Indian.
The bulk of the Medieval Islamic intellectuals and scientists were Persians. And strangely enough, also ironically, the best theological scholars in Islam were also Persian. The guys who wrote the most interesting commentaries on the Qur’an, were from what is today Iran and Central Asia.
In regards to medicine, the Western Islamic empire had better medical writers. I’m referring to Spain during the time of Muslim rule.
For a society to be great — wealthy elites need to patronize artists and intellectuals. AmericaStan does not have any of this. In fact, most Western nations no longer engage in this activity. However, AmericaStan fares poorly, socially, intellectually and culturally, because the society is based on excessive greed, with a winner takes all mentality. Furthermore, this leads to fewer people creating great things, and significantly more people consuming things, created by greater people.
Whatever sympathies Obama has or does not have towards Muslims cannot be directly attributed to genes. Drrr.
No such genes exist.
Why not**
the extreme opposite of the hereditarians is wrong too.
You use the right word ”directly”, exactly
but can be ”indirectly” attributed to the genes…
“the extreme opposite of the hereditarians is wrong too.”
Who said it wasn’t?
I happen to agree.
so called ethnic genetic interests are merely the result of a more basic phenomenon.
people like people like themselves.
even if they hate themselves.
because…The Will to Power…
Help me make the most Of freedom and of pleasure
Nothing ever lasts forever
Everybody wants to rule the world…
so called ethnic genetic interests are merely the result of a more basic phenomenon.
people like people like themselves.
The question is whether liking people like ourselves has an evolutionary basis. Rushton claimed that spouses and even best friends are more alike on the most heritable traits. He called this Genetic Similarity Theory..
In 1989 he wrote:
Adopting the mechanistic viewpoint of the “selfish
gene” (Dawkins 1976), Rushton et al. (1984) extended kin
selection theory to the human case by applying genetic
similarity theory. We argued that if a gene can better
ensure its own survival by acting so as to bring about the
reproduction of family members with whom it shares
copies, then it can also do so by bringing about the
reproduction of any organism in which copies can be
found. This would be an alternative way for genes to
propagate themselves. Rather than merely protecting kin
at the expense of strangers, if organisms could identify
genetically similar organisms, they could exhibit altruism
toward these “strangers” as well as toward kin. Kin
recognition might be just one form of genetic similarity
detection.
http://www.psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/Genetic%20Similarity%201989.pdf
”The question is whether liking people like ourselves has an evolutionary basis. ”
Just look to the nature…
other question*
people tend to mistake tribal with racial
racial is a type of tribalism, one of the most common and logical, based on nature logic.
But what is omniscient among us is the tribalism itself
we have physiological-phenotypical tribalism (race, ethnicity and/or people’hood) and behavioral-phenotypical tribalism (ideology ”,” culture ”,” ‘religion’ , cultural urban tribes…)
leftists are idelogically tribal as well a catholics or protestants
all the time we are searching for people who are similar to us… in behavior (and there is a relative physiognomy here or a relative overlap of physiological and psychological traits)
what differentiates the masses from us is that the first have the luck to be a majority.
None is lonely because own choice.
many left or non-traditional-variety, who are more emotionally objective and honest, search for people who are like us while traditional types tend to be socially superficial, i mean, they think is enough have a superficially behavioral homogeneity, what traditional culture tend to promote.
(REAL) left tend to have behavioral-phenotype seekers (as well happen with most of universalistic ”religions”)
right tend to have physiological-phenotype seekers
PP: It appears that the social dynamics in America is more about genetic/racial/ethnic interests than your homeland of Canada, based on my personal experiences and what others have said. Canada is more welcoming of immigrants!
I will be enrolling in a technology program in Montreal, something I would never do in the states, because there is a stigma against individuals taking up STEM. Furthermore, the intellectual climate in Canada encourages STEM learning and self actualization in general. Even at the universities/colleges, the programs tend to outline clearly what they will entail, where as in the USA, the course descriptions are so generalized and hazy. It seems as if they want to confuse or trick the students, because America is all about competition for wealth and status. As Santo has said, sociopathy is what defines America, because money is the driving factor behind it.
Isn’t his father a muslim? That explains his emotional attachment without the need for EGI, unless of course he doesn’t actually have any attachment, either way I don’t care.
His father is Communist Frank Marshall Davis. See below video.
That’s how tribalism would work. There are probably no genes that directly cause people to be nice to their group, but there might be genes that cause people to be nice to those who remind them of their dad, or their cousin, or their aunt (basically whoever they grew up around). And the people who remind you of your family, tend to be co-ethnics.
True, i know nothing of filipino culture all I know is hiphop and that’s probably because it’s the only non white culture in america. I’ll eat your mashed potatoes, green beans, corn and listen to some Disturbed and Metalica but i’m also down with some friend chicken and bumping Nas in the “hood.”
I don’t know. Obama looks pretty East African to me.
Yes, and his daughters look very East African, especially the older one.
PP, you don’t remember when Obama let the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House?
Hell, even his brother is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood.
You can tell he sympathizes with Islam, because he never uses the words ‘terror attack’.
God… I hate this man.
Pumpkin Person
Obama does have sympathies for the Muslim World, but is being tricked by his advisors
If Obama sympathizes with Muslims at least he doesn’t believe in sharia law. Obama is a celebrity, no radical muslim would ever go on the Ellen show. But the only thing I can think of is that his destabilization policies hurts moderate muslim women. Women don’t go to school anymore in Libya. “Migrants” flooding Europe is creating right wing opposition everywhere. People are voting their interests and organizing their political parties. I think Bill O’reilly, is like all right wingers, is extremely angry. Alex Jones is a nut case and controlled opposition just like fox news. I believe muslim women should go to school. Maybe Obama does not care enough. No secret radicalized muslim president would have the Gay flag on the white house. Christian conspiracy theorists on YouTube were really freaked out by it. Obama is the gay muslim antichrist to them. Most gay muslims, I hear, have had their heads chopped off.
I don’t think he’s a Muslim, I think he’s an atheist/agnostic. But he might be uniquely compassionate to Muslims, but it’s hard to say because aside from the Iran deal, his foreign policy has been arguably anti-Muslim.
His brother has strong ties to the MB too.
”But he might be uniquely compassionate to Muslims”
no chance, he ”uniquely compassionate” to the power, what he is here, in this precious place, ”white house”.
One of his half-brothers is Jewish through his mother…
Holy fuck I live in Dallas 😦
Oh ya didn’t a bunch of cops just get sniped? Sad times.
http://heatst.com/culture-wars/camille-paglia-and-christina-hoff-sommers-demolish-modern-feminism-part-iii/
paglia!
Obama is the closest America has ever had to a Muslim president
https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtp1/v/t1.0-0/q81/s480x480/13590225_1758650377719750_2008959288992572226_n.jpg?oh=89ee8ec1f00a681c50ed69f4d428e5d3&oe=58361594&__gda__=1475101466_7b822f5b5e077c589b154836dc138d95
American Proliassance is that way —->
Sorry but I can only say B*****ks!
So did Obama withdraw from all of America’s entanglements in the ME? If he sympathises presumably he would? One can argue that there has been massive support for Saudi Arabia from the West for decades… how does that fit into this narrative? And what about Saddam’s Iraq and the Taliban – America’s creatures both.
Consistently this blog trivialises political issues. I know some people here are bright but it does all seem very insular from a geopolitical point of view.
The London Mayor is a Muslim, does that mean London has descended into a raging inferno of hate and violence since his appointment?
Yes, the notion that Obama sympathizes with Islam might be neocon propaganda.
He does sympathize with them. His brother is involved with them in Kenya. They’ve been to the White House too.
Then why is he constantly droning them?
He always say’s how it’s ‘moderate Islam’ and never says they’re terrorist attacks.
His brother being involved with the MB is proof enough.
Why would he use the term “Islamic terrorism”? All that does is make the terrorists look like they’re the leaders of Islam and stigmatizes and alienates 1.7 billion Muslims. If Obama secretly loves Muslims how do you explain this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-drone-program-anniversary_n_4654825
Why has the U.S. given over $24 billion to Israel under Obama?
Regardless of whether Obama personally likes Muslims, he wouldn’t dare push a pro-Muslim foreign policy (with the exception of the Iran nuclear deal)
A pro-Muslim president would have given the Iron Dome to the Palestinians, not to Israel, though if he’d done that he probably would have been impeached.
JS is right in that is mainly the “Proles and low tier academics” who are Islamaphobes.
The achievments of the Muslims during the “Islamic Golden Age” are immense and undeniable.
Much of this non-sense, is as usual, politically opportunistic bullsh!t.
Obama is not one of those two things…tis the point.
racerealist-
how do you feel about Muslims/Middle Easterners?
Although they’re doing terribly right now, the arc of history shows they can rebound…
they’re in the dark ages, like Euros were in 500-1500.
Whatever he feels, he’s obviously not acting too strong on it, he’s limited.
http://www.jta.org/2016/07/08/news-opinion/world/spanish-party-under-fire-for-anti-semitic-obama-depiction
The Iran Nuclear Deal, ultimately, was highly comprehensive, and basically for any ‘hemming or hawing’ under Iran, the Sanctions snap back into place, then they have a lack of materials to build, in the future. I suppose the main risk is Obama or his Democrat successor would be reluctant to admit things are going wrong, and would let Iran ban the rules.
IF it goes right, it’s the best for Israeli stability.
Seriously.
If Iran goes Western and is an ally, in essence, like the Turks their fine.
Netanyahu is a paranoiac.
Only Ameriprole Neo-Cons buy this nonsense.