I promised I was going to estimate the IQ of Ann Coulter, among many other people, so today I will do a post on her. Coulter is an evangelical Christian who gained attention by pushing the envelope with provocative rhetoric that some considered racist and Islamophobic. With each ethnically and racially offensive comment, Coulter’s status only grew. In an era of extreme political correctness, many admired Coulter’s genius for making “racist” comments and always getting away it,though she did finally spark media outrage when she made a provocative comment about Jews, or rather the tendency of Republican politicians to pander to them.
“Well, Ann Coulter just lost my vote” tweeted eminent journalist Jeffrey Golberg.
It remains to be seen if Coulter can bounce back from this controversy, or perhaps she’s now rich enough that she no longer cares.
Despite potentially losing status in mainstream circles, the ADL is very concerned about her surging popularity among white nationalists, who previously dismissed her as a dupe of pro-Israel neocons when she strongly supported the disastrous 2003 Iraq war.
So what is her IQ?
Normally when I estimate the IQ of a public figure, I focus on the cognitive correlates that are most salient for that particular person, but in Ann’s case, there are so many traits that indicate both high and low IQ, that I needed to use my comprehensive biodemographic formula, which I created with help from a Promethean many years ago, which has the following instructions, highlighted in blue:
Start by assuming an IQ of -1.251,
Ann begins with a default estimated IQ of -1.251
Education
1. If subject graduated from elementary school, add 6.212 points
This raises Ann’s estimated IQ from -1.251 to 4.961
2. If subject graduated from high school, add another 6.212 points
This raises Ann’s estimated IQ from 4.961 to 11.173
3. If subject has a university degree, add another 6.212 points.
This raises Ann’s estimated IQ from 11.173 to 17.385
4. If subject has a graduate degree or attended an elite college or high school, add another 6.212 points.
This raises Ann’s estimated IQ from 17.385 to 23.597.
5. If subject both attended an elite college AND has a graduate degree, add yet another 6.212 points.
This raises Ann’s estimated IQ from 23.597 to 29.809
Head Size
6. Multiply subject’s cranial circumference (in inches) by 2.768 and add the resulting number of points.
In this picture, Ann’s cranium looks 14% longer than the man who interviewing her,
but, Ann’s head looks much narrower and shorter than the man she poses with here. I am going to crudely guess her head is large for a woman, but no larger than that of an average American man of her generation: 22.37″.
If we multiply 22.37 by 2.768, we get 61.92.
This raises Ann’s estimated IQ from 29.809 to 91.729
Height
7. Multiply subject’s height (in inches) by 0.418 and add the resulting number of points
According to IMDB, Ann Coulter is six feet tall which equates to 72 inches. Multiplying this by 0.418 gives 30.096. Adding this to 91.79 raises Ann’s IQ to 121.886.
Weight
8. Multiply subject’s weight (in pounds) by 0.0927 and subtract the resulting number of points
According to bodymeasurements.org, Ann is 145 lbs. Multiplying this by 0.0927 gives 13.4415 points, and subtracting this from 121.886 reduces Ann’s IQ to 108.4445
Race
9. If subject is less than half-black, add 2.666 points
Ann is less than half-black. She adds 2.66 points to her estimated IQ of 108.445, raising it to 111.1045
10. If subject is less than a quarter black and less than a quarter Native American, add another 2.666 points
Ann is less than a quarter black. She adds 2.66 points to her estimated IQ of 108.445, raising it to 111.1045
11. If subject is more than 75% Northeast Asian, or more than 50% Ashkenazi Jewish, add another 2.666 points
Ann does not appear to have Northeast Asian or Ashkenazi ancestry. Estimated IQ stays at 111.1045
12. If subject is more than 75% Ashkenazi Jewish, add yet another 2.666 points
Against, Ann does not appear to have Northeast Asian or Ashkenazi ancestry. Estimated IQ stays at 111.1045
Media preferences
13. Which of the following does subject most prefer for entertainment: a) fun TV shows like sitcoms, reality TV, game shows, sports, and popular talk shows, b) intellectual TV shows about science, history or politics, c) fun books like romance novel or thrillers, or d) intellectual books like literary novels or academic texts. If subject prefers “a” add 0 points, if subject prefers “b” add 3.451 points, if subject prefers “c”, add 6.902 points, and if subject prefers “d”, add 10.353 points.
Ann occassionally will tweet about the Republican debates or a comment she hears on MSNBC. This tells me she likes political shows, so let’s add 3.451 points to her estimated IQ of 111.1045, raising her to 114.5555
Sex
14. If subject is male, subtract 5.1 points
Ann is not male, so her estimated IQ remains 114.5555. Some people might wonder why males are penalized by this formula, when data shows men score as high, or higher than women on IQ tests. One reason is that many other variables in this formula (i.e. head size, height, and income) are biased against women, so the penalty for being male is a statistical correction.
Income
15. Multiply the number of figures in subject’s yearly pre-tax income by 1.869 and add the resulting number of points. If subject is retired, use peak earnings, adjusted for inflation. If much of subject’s earnings go into a business or if subject is too rich to have a conventional income, simply divide your individual net worth by ten to approximate yearly income.
Between her speaking fees and book sales, Ann probably averaged in the very high six figures during her peak earning years.
Six multiplied by 1.869 equals 11.214. Adding this to her estimated IQ of 114.555, raises it to 125.769.
God
16. If subject believes in God, subtract 3.901 points.
Ann believes so strongly in God, she wrote a book called Godless, condemning liberals for their secularism. And so we must deduct 3.901 points from her estimated 125.769 IQ, reducing it to 121.868.
17. If subject is a creationist who does not believe in evolution, subtract another 3.901 points.
Ann does not appear to believe in evolution, an even appears in a documentary attacking it. Thus we subtract 3.901 points from her estimated IQ of 121.868, reducing it to 117.967
Political conservatism
18. Which of these U.S. political parties would subject most like to see in power: The Green party, the Democrats, or the Republicans? If you picked the Green party, subtract 0 points, if you picked the Democrats, subtract 3.405 points, and if you picked the Republicans, subtract 6.81 points.
Ann is a Republican, so we must subtract 6.81 points from her estimated IQ of 117.967, bringing her to 111.157.
Alcoholism
19. If subject is an alcoholic, subtract 2.282 points
I could find no reliable evidence that Ann is an alcoholic, though she is known for drinking. Her estimated IQ stays at 111.157
Smoking
20. If subject is a smoker, subtract 2.282 points
According to answer.com, Coulter smokes, so we must deduct 2.282 points from her estimated IQ of 111.157, reducing her to 108.337.
Age
21. Multiply the number of years subject’s been alive by 0.194 and add the resulting points
According to wikipedia, Ann is currently 54. Thus we add 54(0.194) = 10.476 to her estimated IQ of 108.337, raising her to 118.813.
Some people might wonder why age is a factor in a formula predicting IQ, since IQ scores are known to be normed for age. One reason is that many of the biodemographic variables are biased against older generations (i.e. head size, height, religious and political views), so an age bonus appears as a sort of statistical correction.
Birth Order
22. Multiply subject’s birth order by 0.885 and subtract the resulting points. So if subject is the third baby of subject’s biological mother, multiply 3 by 0.885 and thus subtract 2.655 points.
According to a diary at Daily Kos, Ann has two older brothers, making her third born, thus we must subtract 2.665 points from her estimated IQ, reducing her to 116.148.
And the IQ is…
23. Subtract 100 from all subject’s points
Subtracting 100 points from Ann’s estimated IQ of 116.148, reduces her to 16.148
24. Divide by 0.8
Dividing Ann’s estimated IQ of 16.148 by 0.8, raises her to 20.185
25. Add 100
Adding 100 to 20.185, raises Ann’s estimated IQ to 120.185
Is an estimated IQ of 120 plausible?
So my best guess for Ann’s IQ is about 120 (U.S. white norms), but this should be interpreted with caution because the biodemographic formula I used was based on data gathered mostly from Canadian men in their 30s (like myself) and has not been well researched in a wider range of range of demographics.
Secondly, many people suspect Ann is affecting her extreme views for shock value, indeed because so few smart and educated people believe in dumb things like creationism and the Iraq war, and these causes so desperately need an articulate cheer leader, the economic laws of supply and demand suggest a lucrative career for a smart person feigning support for seemingly dumb ideas. If we were to discover for example, that Coulter is closet Democrat who secretly believes in evolution for example, that would raise her estimated IQ.
An estimated IQ of 120 is extremely high, making Ann smarter than 90% of white Americans, although it’s not especially high for someone who repeatedly questions the IQs of those who did not attending Ivy League schools like she did:
I suspect Ann’s SAT scores would equate to an IQ much higher than even 120, but it should be noted that Ivy League grads often regress to the mean when they move from the SAT (which was used to select them) to an official IQ test like the WAIS, and it’s really the latter type of testing that the biodemographic formula was designed to predict.
It should also be noted that according to this source, an astonishing 40% of the high school grads in Ann’s hometown go on to attend elite colleges. There’s no way IQ could be the primary explanation for why so many Ivy League grads come out of that town, unless the town was founded by Nobel prize winning physicists, and even then it would be a stretch, given regression to the mean in their kids. Clearly, if that figure is valid, there’s something about Ann’s hometown that causes people to overperform when it comes to getting into a good college.
But regardless of whether Ann is brilliant, or merely “very bright”, she is a talented and entertaining provocateur, who is increasingly seen by white activists as a hero to her race for fiercely defending her ethnic genetic interests against massive waves of immigration, and bringing such ideas into the mainstream, with books like Adios America.
I’m pretty sure Ann doesn’t actually buy into her anti-evolution/fundamentalist Christianity statements. I’m guessing her IQ is in the 130s.
It wouldn’t surprise me if she’s faking it. She may have even feigned support for the Iraq war to suck up to neocon media elites as well as the lower IQ Republican masses. Perhaps she’s a brilliant con artist playing everyone for fools, though too much falsification is itself a sign of lower IQ.
120 seems plausible.
She is very wealthy and writes well,
however,
-she is highly gaffe prone (9/11 widows remark, I’ll see if I can find the links)
-has smatterings of advocating violence, on her facebook page she insulted the funeral service of a prominent L.A. businessman of Armenian descent, for the sacrificing of a goat in coptic christian fashion she said essentially ‘he would not have died had he worn a seat belt, not being a third world savage sacrificing goats’ She’s an immoral b*tch. Forgive me, but she is.
Along the lines of being OK with violence, she downplays rape; http://www.salon.com/2014/12/18/ann_coulter_women_who_say_they_are_raped_are_just_girls_trying_to_get_attention/
-Makes idiotic mistakes like ‘ Bosnians are non-white’ (I posted a link earlier), and essentially that the Romney’s family DNA mutated into non-white DNA when George Romney was born in Mexico; http://www.latintimes.com/ann-coulter-defends-donald-trump-romneys-just-mad-because-his-father-was-mexican-372963 🙂
-Her adoration of Trump and his increasingly nationalistic rhetoric will get her black listed even more than she already is. She’s not thinking clearly, she is impulsive and it is further illustrated by the fact that she rose to prominence then fell rather quickly.
Like ruhkukah said, she probably is faking some of her views. Personally I believe she chose to be a far right conservative commentator, because among them, a 120 IQ is better than that among liberals.
She contributes nothing. She is an example of how high-IQ people should NOT behave.
That’s hilarious!!! He’s a fucking idiot. I love how people say, for instance, that South American whites, who emigrated from Germany, Spain and Italy in the past 100 years aren’t white. Genetics don’t change if you’re born somewhere else.
Who is “he”? My point was that stuff like that, which Coulter says, is indeed ludicrous and reflects badly on her IQ.
Of course there is the reasonable possibility Ann Coulter is a “he” http://www.newslo.com/ann-coulter-im-transgender/ 🙂
Hahaha. I thought you were talking about Trump. But my comment still stands. She’s a moron for thinking that genes change if you’re born in Mexico or another country like that.
I agree 100%;
Any reason why in recent months on AmRen, the new members think “Spanish” is a ‘non-white’ language/ ethnic origin? Not Hispanic, just plain “Spanish” so it’s blatantly incorrect. I know there has been a surge in membership(the letter that popped up when one visited the site) of people less schooled in matters of race and ethnicity, but they still need to be corrected. Stormfront does it, for goodness’ sake, and they do not exactly try to be objective. AmRen should, too
“It wouldn’t surprise me if she’s faking it. ”
Of course she is faking it. You know if someone would judge Coulter’s intelligence strictly on the premise that she believes her rhetoric and isn’t pandering then she should be judged a total idiot. I do think,however, she doesn’t believe much of her rhetoric.
And to clarify, I think Ann Coulter is like a lot of elite conservatives, who think religion is good, but only for the hoi polloi, so as to keep them in control. Ann Coulter probably actually is conservative in her other beliefs, like on immigration.
Ann Coulter at least admitted to her belief in genes one time, when she predicted that liberals would started aborting their gay babies if they ever discovered a gay gene (of course, gay genes don’t actually exist though…)
That’s weird. Why would liberals abort gay babes if they found out their babes would be gay? Aren’t Leftists supposed to be progressive? =^)
Professed beliefs and actual behaviors are two different things.
Exactly racerealism,
They are absolutely contradictory. The problem of subjective morality specially in a high-speed and unstable cultural changes. What seems reasonable for them to be defended become old fashioned, technological changes influence culture a lot. Genetic engineering is a example.
Leftism itself is a contradictory ideology because it directly goes against science (well, what they pick and choose to see). When CRISPR becomes cheap, I await the day to see Leftists use it. And I will laugh and laugh and laugh.
Leftism is a new cult, exactly as any other cult or ”religion”. Science is other cult. Science alone can be very hard too. Science without philosophy as their heavy conscience will be psychopath at best, a mad scientist acting pragmatically. Philosophy without science become a cult too. Real philosophy and not just ideology, a cult itself/par excellence.
Everything that man does is dry ice. This is its essential function. He does not have absolute awareness of why, he also knows that at the end of the ice will melt, but he keeps doing. We live in a purgatory. We are already in it.
Leftism at their surface and not all their sides look much more reasonable than christianism or other ”religion”. And in the true, leftism inherited its contradiction from christianism. Leftism is a combination of ”literal” christianism, taking the good advices (non-contradictory) in the bible and taoism, the serenity in the front the chaos, a double-combo of ”give the other face”.
Bible and other shit like koran were projected to the illiterate, those with magic thinking propensity and those without real-world holistic-perceptual capacity (read: real philosophy).
The problem is not this ”isms”. The problem are the morons in their cultural movements and they are very common.
The problem is not even the idiot itself, but the permanent/incurable/congenital idiot and with complete lack of self awareness to perceive it.
The problem is not even the congenital idiot, because we can have too those with greater energy to do ”good intentions” and many them can be curable idiot.
There’s no way she actually believes the stuff she says;
On twitter, she referred to Trump’s so-called “Big-Boy Foreign Policy speech” as “the best speech in American history second only to Washington’s farewell address”.
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She is such a fucking troll!;
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ann-coulter-is-a-human-being
hahahaha
Having missed your original post, I did the exercise on myself and just like Ann I got an IQ of 120.
Some observations:
(1) I am currently around 50 pounds heavier than my default state. This however is mainly due to a bona fide bacterial infection that I am getting treated so this state of affairs is highly artificial. I am not hugely concerned about this since the illness is of a higher priority (I am getting treated for it now) and in any case I am confident about my ability to drop weight at will (through a keto diet). This translates to 6 IQ points.
(2) My current preference is for the Republicans, since I like Donald Trump’s cult of persona- erm ideas and policies. However, the argument could be made that I only support him out of my ethnic genetic interests. In 2012 and 2008 I unenthusiastically supported Obama and my ideal policy preferences lean transhumanist which if anything is even more hardcore than environmentalist treehugging (though I support environmentalism too). This is a potential 7 IQ points. That said, I do entirely despise SJWism, radical feminism, etc., which suggests that perhaps I should not get the “benefit of the doubt” on all 7 of those points. So let’s make that a 5 instead.
Correcting for these two factors my biodemographic IQ is around 130.
My actual IQ as I have calculated it from various records including the Cattell III B is around 140.
Not a bad model.
Very interesting akarlin
The model does need further research, since it was based on a sample of convenience and not a truly representative sample of all North Americans, or even all Canadians.
In your case in particular, being from Russia (I assume?) the variables might not correlate with IQ in quite the same way. It’s even possible that variables that indicate lower IQ in North America (conservatism) might indicate high IQ in other countries, making the formula worse than useless for cross-cultural comparisons.
For example, historically, a high weight/height ratio was probably a sign of high IQ (you can afford to eat) but in today North America it’s a sign of low IQ
Other correlates, like head size, would be positively correlated with IQ in virtually every time and place, I suspect.
I tend to think conservatism (relative to one’s power) is a sign of low IQ in every culture, but what it means to be conservative is culturally dependent. For example, ethnocentric whites are considered conservative but ethnocentric blacks are considered liberals. What’s the difference? The white race is considered super powerful, so ethnocentric whites are seen as siding with power. But pro-white activists will tell you that Whites are losing power (though this gets dismissed as conspiracy theories), so being pro-white might actually be liberal
Simplistic labels like Republican and Democrat don’t tell the whole story, and the very dichotomy serves a political agenda..
And yes, your ethnic genetic interests might be driving you to support Trump, both because you’re white, and Trump’s policies are pro-white, and because you’re Russian, and Trump’s pro-Putin., ,
I realize JayMan argues that EGI doesn’t exist, but if you read between the lines, even JayMan does not deny EGI, he simply denies explicit selection for EGI.
In your case in particular, being from Russia (I assume?) the variables might not correlate with IQ in quite the same way. It’s even possible that variables that indicate lower IQ in North America (conservatism) might indicate high IQ in other countries, making the formula worse than useless for cross-cultural comparisons.
In the 2012 elections, there was a negative correlation between wealth and voting for Putin, zero correlation between wealth and voting for the Communist candidate, and a positive correlation between wealth and voting for Prokhorov (the token pro-Western candidate). Whereas at the national level Putin won an overwhelming 64% (there was cheating but quite negligible relative to the total result), in Moscow itself he got 49% (incidentally, the average PISA-derived IQ of Moscow is almost 10 points above the Russian average), and in the wealthiest regions of Moscow just around 40% (albeit still a plurality).
Moreover, all these voting correlations were almost certainly stronger with respect to IQ than to wealth. IIIRC, in precincts associated with elite Moscow university campuses, the breakdown was quite actually even between Putin (~25%), commies, liberals, and various others.
Incidentally, in the 1990s, the less wealthy regions (and the less intelligent ones) voted more for the Communists than for Yeltsin and the party of power. Back then it was still the Communists who were the “conservatives” while Yeltsin and his group were the liberals/radicals. Under Putin, sometime between 2000 and 2008, the categories “flipped” and the Putinists/party of power became the “conservatives.”
So in this sense supporting Putin would likely indicate a lower IQ on my part than would supporting WSJ oped writers from the Russian liberal opposition.
On the other hand, the fact that I belong to a highly demographically peculiar group – children of Russian expats who have lived 80% of their lives in the West – means that its really an open question as to what extent correlations based on more conventional populations apply to myself and my types.
@PumpkinPerson
Which portions of his post on this imply that?
It’s clear that EGI has been selected for. Let me quote Rushton from his book: Altruism, Socialization, and Society:
Rushton then gives examples which include:
Wynne-Edwards (1962) suggested that whole groups of animals collectively stopped breeding when population density got too high, even to the point of killing their own offspring. Wynn-Edwards says that the purpose of the above mention is to protect the animal’s ecology so that all of the animals may benefit from the self-sacrifice in the long run. Though, Williams (1966) found evidence against Wynne-Edwards’ hypothesis of group selection.
E.O. Wilson proposed in 1975 that the concept of selection by group can be applied on differing levels to various individuals. Those levels just above individuals are parents, offspring and close-knit family (tribes). Wilson suggested to name it kin selection. Rushton ends up saying “It is that end of the continuum concerned with kin selection that solves the paradox of altruism. It does so through the notion of inclusive fitness (emphasis Rushton’s).”
The concept of inclusive fitness, which is an extension of Darwin’s individual fitness, is that unlike individual fitness which was based on the number of direct offspring left, inclusive fitness includes the individuals own offspring, as well as the sum of all the offspring’s relatives. Because the GENES are surviving. Sacrificing your life for your nephew ensures that 25 percent of your genes are preserved, whereas sacrificing yourself for your offspring ensures that 50 percent of your genes survive and have the opportunity to reproduce. Clearly, the percentage of the shared amount of genes is a good predictor on whether or not an individual will act altruistically. It’s clear that what natural selection actually selects for is not individuals, but genes. Those genes that are advantageous to the group then pass on to the next generation, ensuring the group’s survival.
Evolution selects for any social behavior that increase the likelihood of whatever group/culture that will spread it’s genes on to the next generation.
What Rushton’s theory predicts is that, we are most altruistic to those who are more genetically similar to ourselves, that is, family rather than friends and friends rather than strangers. Within families, mothers should be more altruistic than fathers to offspring. This is because mothers have a potentially larger genetic investment in any one child than does the father. (Rushton, 1980)
http://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/02/25/altruism-and-ethnocentrism/
JayMan is crazy to say that EGI doesn’t exist.
If you haven’t read that book PP, I highly recommend it, it’s great.
Genetically similar….
What is implicit is that personality similarities tend to implies in genetic-phenotype similarities too.genetic interests. People who are behaviorally similar one each other are likely to be close friends, lovers and help the other.
Jayman wife is likely to share with him a lot of behavioral/and belief similarities. He’s is likely to be more altruistic with people with some fundamental similarities.
Jayman appear very hypocrite in this term. He’s very anti-white nationalism, even for a balanced version as I’m. First, he’s against WN movement because himself. Nothing wrong here, he have their own biological /existential interests. He’s a mixed-race man and obviously he have their racial preferences as most of us have. For someone who are came from to the most recessive human race of all genetic interests of your own race look much more important than those who came from genetically dominant races specially blacks.
But I agree that genetic interests are not so strong as many people think.
Sorry. Behavioral-phenotypically similar people are more prone to help people one each other specially because they are likely to be close friends or lovers, phenotypical family not just by racial features.
Our altruism genes come from living in tribes where it’s a huge advantage and easy to punish cheaters and freeloaders.
I have a lot of those genes, and I’m constantly pushing against those in my community who don’t–traitorous scum who will do anything, even genocide their own ethnicity, to enrich themselves and their families. That’s why I doubt EGI exists.
Media socialization has tons to do with it.
http://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/02/25/altruism-and-ethnocentrism/
http://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/02/20/whats-the-cause-of-the-cucking-of-europe/
The media is extremely powerful in our perception of how we see the world. If you haven’t read it yet, I strongly suggest you read Altruism, Socialization and Society by Rushton. It’s a great read.
Why did noone intervene in Cologne. Most likely because the victims were not girls from the upper or even middle rungs of society, who knew not to be there in the first place. It’s sad, but politicians from left to right wanna see the poor get punished. They tell them basically – if you can’t take care of yourself we can’t help you, learn to stay away from certain other poor elements in society or get what’s coming. Same in england with the grooming.
No one intervened in Cologne due to the variables I presented in my article.
@SantoCulto
Right. But, you will help a member of your racial/ethnic group, on average of course, more often than you help a stranger of a different race or ethnic group. Spouses do share similar genetics, regardless of race (I don’t remember the data points on this, please refresh my memory if I’m wrong).
One study showed that people tend to find their own face when morphed into the opposite sex most attractive, even when he/she doesn’t know it’s his own face, strongly suggesting that people typically prefer those who look like themselves, in other words their own racial/ethnic group. The more genes that people share in common, the more likely they are to look for similar characteristics in their partners.
http://www.psyc.nott.ac.uk/research/vision/jwp/papers/pentonvoak1999.pdf
This is another point for EGI.
Our friends are as close to us as our 4th cousins:
http://www.pnas.org/content/111/Supplement_3/10796
Etc etc. Rushton has quite a bit of data on bereavement and the like in regards to mothers and how they grieve for their children if they’re more genetically similar to themselves.
Damn man. You again have me think. Which is good. I’m still mulling over your last comment to me on my Ashkenazi Jew and Southern Italians post, I will respond to that later in the week,
So you’re saying that him and his wife, even though they’re not of the same race/ethnicity, share similar genes which has those behavioral/belief similarities?
Care to reword this? I don’t think I understand.
I beg to differ. But it’s late and I have to hit the hay. Will continue tomorrow.
Racerealist, I will devote a post to JayMan’s views on EGI soon
Nice. I look forward to it. A buddy and I are going to tackle his whole post stating that egi doesn’t exist. Going to be a good one.
I recommend, if you haven’t already, to read Rushton’s book, Altruism, Socialization, and Society. It’s a great book chock full of cites on egi and altruism. I love the book.
”Damn man. You again have me think. Which is good. I’m still mulling over your last comment to me on my Ashkenazi Jew and Southern Italians post, I will respond to that later in the week,
So you’re saying that him and his wife, even though they’re not of the same race/ethnicity, share similar genes which has those behavioral/belief similarities?”
Those idea on the left where a norwegian man can have more genetic similarities with a nigerian than with other norwegian men, for sure.
You can have a introverted, thin and physical weak norwegian AND a introverted, thin and physicial weak nigerian, based on this perspective, a norwegian man can be genetically similar to a nigerian man than a fat, physically strong and extroverted norwegian man. Of course, generally human populations tend to have greater homogeneity within them than among them.
This similarity don’t disprove race existence because race is basically the expression of a UNIQUE SET OF PHENOTYPES that are expressions of specific genotypes, of course. unique prevalent combination of certain type of eyes, nose, skin, face, body shape and color.
East asians for example tend to have unique combination (combo) with physical and psychological features.
”So you’re saying that him and his wife, even though they’re not of the same race/ethnicity, share similar genes which has those behavioral/belief similarities?”
Of course because race is a overlapping continuum of features (psychological/mental and physical) which are universal in their original shapes and become differentiated via specific mutations.
A lot of different recipes with the same ingredients. And whites were (are/whatever) the master chef, 😉
Race is a cultural feature of that time where the geographical distance were too much greater and is becoming obsolete by globalization and because those who defend it become cultural/knowledgeable obsolete, although they are very right about a lot of fundamental things.
”Care to reword this? I don’t think I understand.”
More racialism among whites is absolutely legitimate because they are the more recessive of all human races, in other words, is completely rational. of course, without causing conflicts among others.
Genetic interests make much more sense among whites but paradoxically they are the least aware about it.
Martin Shkreli comes across to me as very smart. From poor immigrant background, attended a school for gifted, dropped out, and has found opportunities hidden in plain sight to make loads of money, the oligarch type. Maybe do an analysis on him.
Hahahaha, I’m sure I’m the only here who watches this show or would have any interest in it, but I thought this was interesting:
I really doubt it.
Smart players in the pharma industry take care to keep their moneygrubbing in the shadows concealed behind layers of PR and faceless regulations. Shkreli boasts about his misadventures to everyone’s face. The result is that everyone hates him – not just the court of public opinion, but everyone in on the scam as well for bringing undue attention to the entire industry. This makes him an excellent candidate to be sacrificial goat to simultaneously appease the masses and remove a liability.
These are impulsive, pride-driven actions that a very intelligent person is unlikely to indulge in.
Also as an ethnic Albanian – the lowest IQ European nationality – any correlations-based estimates would require a considerable downwards adjustment.
@akarlin
Not to nitpick, but the lowest IQ European country is Serbia at 89.
Unless you don’t consider Albania and Bosnia to be part of Europe that is simply incorrect.
Serbia is around average for the Balkans.
http://drjamesthompson.blogspot.com/2015/09/migrant-competence.html
It’s not like the different groups in the Balkans are not mixed with eachother and other peoples. Some of the most competent pilagers and robbers of the last thousand years have lots of offspring there, to begin with. The product is a clever and rough type of human, not the nerdy kind of smart. Many of the brightests have ended up in America, like many sicilians also. I wonder what happens then, where do they go.
Shkreli isn’t all that different from Pumpkin’s beloved high IQ group – the Ashkenazim, who often engage in white collar crimes.
But they are careful not to brag about it.
That’s why I don’t think Shkreli is very smart.
Shkreli isn’t all that different from Pumpkin’s beloved high IQ group – the Ashkenazim,
I love all races. Not Jews only.
Hughenot great idea!
I will try to devote a post to Shkreli soon.
easily above 130
In my opinion, 120 seems like a fairly accurate number. I absolutely loathe Ann Coulter, but even I cannot deny that she has above-average intelligence; however, I would be very surprised if her IQ was higher than 125. I suspect that her FSIQ is somewhere between 115–125, with a higher verbal than nonverbal score.
formerly i estimated peepee’s IQ at 60.
now i think it’s no more than 40.
she proves the general point that…
people who take high IQ societies seriously invariably have very low IQs.
High IQ societies are the most successful and not by coincidence. The world has changed, before high IQ didn’t guarantee success, but now it’s one of the best predictors of it.
Greg argues here:
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2016/03/08/economics-old-and-new/
He’s talking about societies like MENSA, not society as in social sciences.
For women some people argue that certain degree of maaculinization tend to be positively correlated with higher cognitive skills.
This scale seems to work well:
Author, columnist, politician 115-130
scientist 125-150
top theoretical physicist/mathematicians .>140
if you like and have time, could you please do an IQ analysis for German prime minister Angela Merkel?
Yes, I’ll try to get to her soon. Several people have requested her for some reason. She’s been on my waiting list for a long time.
Pumpkin Person- I had asked you to estimate the IQ of Katrina Pierson earlier, but this evening I briefly did some of my own math, using both the idea of Z- scores, and your own work on idea densities.
Using this link, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6e-TBN5qxw
Katrina responded to questions relating to David Duke’s support of Donald Trump, and comparing Trump’s failure to renege the support to Reagan reneging Duke’s support in the 1980s;
“Well, you know, I think what’s important, and that the media has left out, is that David Duke did not endorse Donald Trump, in fact, came out on CNN last night to denounce the endorsement.
Mr. Trump was confused when Jake Tapper asked him the questions, he said “what are you talking about”? I think it just highlights the media bias; for Barack Obama was not asked to disavow support from Senator Robert Bryd, who was not just a member of the Klan, but a leader.
Uh, no. Because he’s already said that, and David Duke did not endorse, you can go look at his own words right now. But I think that this is what we can expect from the establishment, who are seeing that their candidates are not working, and I can fully understand that. The facts are that David Duke did not endorse Donald Trump, but when Trump was asked about it, he denounced it immediatley.”
I left out one sentence at the end, but her idea density based on what you had written here; https://brainsize.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/oprahs-idea-density/ came out at 0.546, so
(0.546-0.532)/0.031= +0.4516129032258065 SDs, now, according to some tea party website I forgot, Katrina was born in 1976, and the average of the nuns was 1960, and the mean for each group increases +0.029 SDs per birth year, so relative to those born in 1976, for Katrina, we would take the +0.4516…. SDs- (0.029×16)= 0.4516….-0.464= -0.0123870967741935 SDs, so multiply that by 15, and one would get -0.1858064516129032, add to the median IQ of the nuns, 130, to get an IQ of 129.8 for Katrina (U.S. Norms), which rounds up to AN IQ OF 130 FOR THAT METHOD.
As for using Z-scores, Katrina is perhaps the most influential lay-person to join the tea party, working her way up to being the Republican front runner’s Campaign manager just 6 years after being completely a lay-person. It also amazing that she is the head of a nativists’ campaign, who obviously does not care for tokenism (not part of the decision to hire Katrina), indeed, Katrina Pierson many times attempts to make herself look white, and has previously referred to President Obama as not being a “pure-blood”. Assuming that at her initial beginnings as a tea party, in 2009/early 2010, 28% of Americans affiliated with it;http://www.gallup.com/poll/186338/support-tea-party-drops-new-low.aspx
it would make her Z-score +5.533333…. based on, http://www.investopedia.com/terms/z/zscore.asp and http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx
assuming an 0.40 correlation between worldly success measured in such manor and IQ, that would mean +5.53333 x 0.40= +2.21333… SDs, above the tea party mean, which based on the idea that conservatives and liberals of the same other demographics have a 7 point lower IQ, would mean (101-7), since the tea party is mostly non-Hispanic white, resulting in 94 + (2.21333333…(15)), which would give an IQ of 127.2 on Wechsler, rounding to AN IQ OF 127, very near the 130 estimated above.
Of course both are verbal IQ estimates. I want to compare what my estimation/result was for her IQ to yours, Pumpkin Person, when you get around to it, to see if I am the right track with estimating IQs
the number of tea partiers assumes that the U.S. has 325,000,000 people
left that explanation for getting the final answers, out.
and conservative versus moderate, in the 7 point median reduction, not conservaitve verus liberal.
Very interesting research. I found an idea density of 0.527 when I analyzed the quote you posted, excluding the last sentence. Not sure if you used the method I mentioned in the article.
I would be a bit cautious with applying the norms I obtained which were actually from the powerful business women (not the nuns) to Katrina’s discussion of David Duke. The business women had their idea density measured when they were all responding to the exact same questions for the exact same magazine, almost all by email, so it was fairly scientifically controlled conditions, similar to those in the nun study. The same norms might not apply to someone answering a very different question, in a different medium.
But it’s a good start
And yes, I will blog about Katrina Pierson. I would just like to learn a bit more about her first.
Thanks pumpkinperson, that’s great!
So briefly adjusting for the Idea Density (I did not use software, it was “by hand” so to speak), that would mean one would have to take off about 4 points for that method, putting her IQ at 126 for the U.S. Norms of Wechsler.
I suppose the best way to have a controlled environment, or at least partially controlled, would be to look at transcripts of Katrina answering similar questions to the ones posed to the businesswomen? Of course it can not be 100% controlled.
It seems she is very, very smart for a black conservative, or for anyone for that matter.
Is it just me or does the SD in the nun/businesswoman study seem very small?
Is it just me or does the SD in the nun/businesswoman study seem very small?
The SD is small precisely because all the business women were answering the exact same question in generally the same medium (email) for the same publication.
If they were answering different questions in different mediums for different purposes, you’d get a lot more variation and the norms collected under the controlled conditions might not be relevant.
I knew something was up with that. I am going to look for any large-scale Idea density to IQ studies.
I knew something was up with the SD value.
I will be looking up large scale idea density to IQ studies.
Ann Coulter may be mentally ill.
As I posted before, Coulter trivializes Rape (except when a Mexican does it, of course). Now, however, she says SHE has been raped.
This leaves us two options;
1. She has a psychosis of identifying with her perpetrators to a certain extent
OR
2. She is a complete pathological liar who makes up such absurd things on impulse.
https://coulterwatch.wordpress.com/2016/03/30/ann-coulter-was-gang-raped/
No, I had t respond to this one, you’re an idiot, your biases make your iq starting at minus, you have the nerve to start her off at a minus, she attended the university of michigan law school you fool, do you know what the basis iq is for that, you f******* a********, you’re fired.
Everyone gets started off as negative. That’s just the way the algorithm works.
Ah, a brilliant Neo-Conservative Ann Coulter supporter.
Ted Cruz 2016! Fuck you.
I am not voting for Ted Cruz, just messing with this genius.
You can delete that if you want. I don’t like to pollute this blog with any more profanity than necessary.
My god America is prole. I might as well start backing up Mugabe rather than mocking him.
“University of Michigan Law School”
1. She got affirmative action because she is female, to compensate about her getting bad grades at the ivies.
2. Michigan is like what, now, 99% black? Any decent Coulter supporter should know all blacks are stupid.
Maybe that explains, her, shall I say, tastes; http://bizstandardnews.com/2015/08/14/white-supremacists-turn-on-coulter-after-discovering-she-dates-black-men/
Ann Coulter truly thinks she’s smarter than Hillary Clinton.
She really does.
What a dumba$$.
I hope Hillary sends her and Trump to Gitmo, day 1.
Ann is the voice of God;
so….
God hates;
-Mexicans
-Tricky Asians
-Tricky Jews
-Women of all races.
-Muslims
-Christians who believe in Third World notions like “forgiveness”
BASICALLY;
-Anyone not from Europe or an American mobile home park.
Whites come from God. Everyone else is evil.
Trump 2016.
Challenge;
Answer;
What has Mann ever contributed to humanity?
tic, tok, tic, tok
The choice to create order and meaning in a world that is chaotic and harsh. Profound, isn’t it?
PP, What do you mean head size is biased against women? Dont men have larger heads than women? Also, if you even take brain-body size(ratio?) into consideration dont men and women have equal size heads?
brain/body ratio is not the optimum formula because the smaller you are, the higher brain/body ratio on average (and this is true at the inter-species level too) and i wouldn’t be surprised if women exceed men on this metric. The relevant question is whether men have bigger brains when compared to women of equal size. Rushton insisted that they did, though i’ve never seen any strong evidence, because even when the sexes are matched in height, men still weigh more, and even if their matched in weight, men still have more natural muscle. Nonetheless it’s widely believed that the sexes differ in brain size despite not differing much in IQ (unless you believe in lynn) in which case women tend to be smarter than men of equal brain size.
The smaller you are the higher brain/body ratio? Where did you get this info from? If i may post a link. This is how it is at the inter-species level. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-to-body_mass_ratio.
Also isnt brain weight more important than brain size? Also women have better memory than men. And their sense of sight, smell, taste, sound, touch are also better than men. So couldnt it mean that brain regions responsible for all these could be larger in women than in men (as a percentage of the total brain size?). What matters is what is the size of the actual ‘thinking’ part of the brain?
Men exceed women by far in the higher IQ scores. The higher the score gets, the more its dominated by men.
I’ve noticed that when i’m captivated by a person, say Ann Coulter or Donald Trump, i’am appalled that their IQ could be 120, and i would imagine them to be at the highest end of IQ measures. I guess I’m really caring about IQ but even more so about sympathy. Maybe it’s also difficult to think people impressing me not only have lower IQs, but would be way down my leta’s comprehension horizon.
Your fact’s index method is a very good tool, even for people you have a chance to meet. I thought that the IQ was like sight, one could only evaluate people that are under onself. It’s better to see it like an ability to evaluate people who are +/- 15 IQ point from one’s own.
Although the subjective span can be widen : when you are in a technical field, and there is a problem were the dumbest interlocutor had the chance to work hard in advance, collect information and ask other people to help, and then the question is presenter to the smartest one, he is able to “see” the other one intelligence solving the problem at a speed and in a way which should have staid behind the comprehension horizon scope otherwise. Then, if repeated, the dumb one generally switch his opinion on the smart one, because of the impression.
Not a bad system. My IQ based on this criteria is 126.14475. I was thrilled to see “pursuing academic work as a hobby.”
Nothing else other than occasional gardening or organizing my surroundings interests me as a hobby.
I took the mensa pre-exam and scored a 135. So this system is fairly close to being as accurate as you can get.
you know nothing, people. My IQ is higher than all of yours. Ann is a true Genius. So am I.
This gave me 88….fake news!