As the pie charts below indicates, blacks and Ashkenazim are dramatically under and over represented among the Forbes ranking of the 400 richest Americans, respectively:

The data for this pie is found here:
http://isteve.blogspot.ca/2012/07/forbes-400-by-ethnicity.html
Despite being 13.6% of America, Blacks are typically only 0.25% of the Forbes 400 (Oprah), though some years as much as 0.5%. Meanwhile, despite being only 2% of America, Ashkenazim are estimated to be 35.56% of the Forbes 400. Some might dispute these numbers on the grounds that partial Jews get counted as Jews, however this is counterbalanced by the fact that many full-Jews probably get mistaken for Gentiles. Further, partial Jews are often counted as Jews for census purposes, so counting them as Jews maintains consistency, though admittedly, this is not an exact science.
On a scale where the average White American has an IQ of 100 (SD = 15), I assume the average American has an IQ of about 97 (SD = 15.5) and the average Jewish American has an IQ of 110, and the average Black American has an IQ of 85. This means that the average Ashkenazi America scores 0.84 SD higher than the average American and the average Black American scores 0.77 SD lower than the average American.
Jewish overrepresentation
If IQ correlates about 0.4 with cumulative life time earnings, and if IQ causes income, either directly, or via credentials, then Jews having IQs 0.84 SD above the U.S. mean should cause financial success that is 0.84 SD(0.4) = 0.34 SD above the U.S. mean.
Now assuming there are about 242 million American adults, and only 400 of them make the Forbes 400, then making the Forbes 400 requires wealth at or above the top one in 605,000 level. In other words, normalizing the distribution of financial success, you need to be at least 4.67 standard deviations more financially successful than the average American to make the Forbes 400. However based on IQ alone, the Jewish income distribution should be 0.34 SD above the U.S. mean, thus the Forbes 400 requires one to be 4.67 SD – 0.34 SD = 4.33 SD above the Jewish financial mean. In other words, based on IQ alone, one in 136,074 Jewish Americans should make the Forbes 400, compared to one in 605,000 Americans in general.
Assuming there are about 4.84 million Jewish adults in America, this suggests that 4,840,000/136,074 = 35.57 Jews should be on the Forbes 400 (roughly 9% of the list). Instead Jews are roughly 36% of the Forbes 400. This shows that even controlling for IQ, Jewish Americans are overrepresented among the super rich by a factor of four. However before controlling for IQ, they are overrepresented by a factor of 18. This shows IQ can explain 78% of Jewish overrepresentation, with only 22% unexplained.
Black underrepresentation
If IQ correlates about 0.4 with cumulative life time earnings, and if IQ causes income, either directly, or via credentials, then Blacks having IQs 0.77 SD below the U.S. mean should cause financial success that is 0.77 SD(0.4) = 0.308 SD below the U.S. mean.
Now given that you need to be at least 4.67 standard deviations more financially successful than the average American to make the Forbes 400, and based on IQ alone, Blacks should have an income distribution shifted 0.308 SD to the left of Americans in general, the Forbes 400 requires one to be 4.67 SD + 0.308 SD = 4.98 SD above the Black financial mean. In other words, based on IQ alone, only one in 3,483,046 Black Americans should make the Forbes 400, compared to one in 605,000 Americans in general.
Assuming there are about 32.912 million black adults in America, this suggests that 32,912,000/3,483,046 = 9.45 Blacks should be on the Forbes 400 (roughly 2% of the list). Instead Blacks are typically only 0.25% of the Forbes 400 (Oprah). This shows that even controlling for IQ, Black Americans are underrepresented among the super rich by a factor of eight. However before controlling for IQ, they are underrepresented by a factor of 54. This shows IQ can explain about 85% of black underrepresentation, with only 15% unexplained.
Discussion
IQ explains 78% of Jewish overrepresentation in extreme wealth, and 85% of black underrepresentation. What explains the rest?
The most obvious possibility is some kind of multiplier effect. What I mean is that because the IQs of one’s family members tend to regress 40% to the mean of their race, a Black with an IQ of 140, will tend to have parents with IQs of 118, while a Jew with an IQ of 140 tends to have parents with IQs around 128. Thus, even when Blacks have the same IQs as Jews, Jews still have the advantage of higher IQ family members to give them career advice, lend them money, etc.
Another obvious possibility is that other traits, either cultural or genetic, may gives Jews an advantage when it comes to making money, such as more stable families, lower incarceration rates, and a tradition of entrepreneurialism.
A final possibility is that Blacks suffer from anti-Black discrimination and Jews benefit from philosemitic discrimination. This would be mitigated to some degree by affirmative action for blacks.
However a discrimination model is hard to square with the fact that Blacks do much better on measures of fame and popularity than they do on wealth, while for Jews it’s the opposite.
High verbal & math IQ among Jews probably helps a lot . maybe if you isolate verbal IQ you would find the results better match with the data
This was my first thought as well. However, since Blacks also have generally higher verbal than spacial IQs, shouldn’t they then also make up a greater portion of the Forbes 400 than their mean full-scale IQ would indicate?
YOU’RE SO FUCKING RETARDED YOU THINK PEEPEE KNOWS WHAT SHE’S TALKING ABOUT.
SHE DOESN’T.
SHE’S MATHEMATICALLY AND OTHERWISE RETARDED.
APPARENTLY YOU ARE TOO.
YOU SHOULD BE GASSED.
Chartreuse, we’ve already established that my math IQ is two standard deviations above yours.
Tribalism combined with High IQ of a minority group makes the Ashkenazim rich. It’s all about networking within your ingroup — perhaps other groups can take note of this. Rich Jews basically help other Jews get rich.
Furthermore, Jews are a highly urban people, and remain to be urban, while other groups tend to leave for smaller less significant places, when they become successful. Big cities are where the money is, especially New York. Pumpkin thinks NY is very prole, but it’s a city where Jews dominate in numbers and money.
just more LIES from peepee.
we’ve already established that your math IQ is 3 SDs below mine…
i estimate your FSIQ at 60.
your math IQ at 40.
and JS is exactly right.
tribalism/ethno-centrism explains 90% of jewish achievement in all fields and lists over the last 100 years.
I have never had one ounce of help from fellow Jews. Jews are not supportive of all of other Jews.
The Jewish trait that helps Jews so much is that they love to network. They are more helpful than any other group at passing along your name, or connecting you to people. As a result, more opportunities open for them as well.
yes. if it’s VIQ much more than FSIQ which predicts income or extreme income and wealth then one would expect that jews would be much more than 8% of the 400 richest.
and given that the jewish IQ profile is higher verbal, average “performance”…so to speak…one would expect that the jewish VIQ is higher than the jewish FSIQ…
of course this is all using the terminology of the Wechsler IQ test…and Wechsler was a jew.
but it isn’t “the gift of gab”.
in my experience those with such a “gift” are not especially bright verbally.
i think that VIQ’s advantage might be re-named…
sophistication.
and i think it was the Bell Curve where i read that the higher IQ of rich kids is like that of jews…that is rich kids score higher on IQ tests, because they score higher on the verbal part of those IQ tests.
peepee would like to believe that VIQ is more amenable to environmental stimulation than non-verbal, but, strangely…
the evidence is in the opposite direction.
but this VIQ high income correlation is local to high income.
at the level of an entire country the high VIQ population will not have an especially good economy.
looking at israel vs the status of jews outside israel…it’s clear that the jews are a parasitic population…perhaps by virtue (or rather vice) of their large VIQ/PIQ imbalance.
none other than that jew cock sucker extraordinaire steve shoe has claimed that high VIQ types tend to be parasitic on the high PIQ types…ceteris paribus…but he would say that as mongoloids tend to have the reverse IQ profile of jews…high PIQ/average VIQ.
This shows that even controlling for IQ, Jewish Americans are overrepresented among the super rich by a factor of four. However before controlling for IQ, they are overrepresented by a factor of 18. This shows IQ can explain 78% of Jewish overrepresentation, with only 22% unexplained.
peepee is math challenged.
she’s just making shit up.
it’s numerology.
and she assumes a linear relationship at the extremes and that jews have the same sd as gentiles.
as misdreavus said:
tards gonna tard.
and she assumes a linear relationship at the extremes and that jews have the same sd as gentiles.
In science we always make simple elegant assumptions until evidence compels a more complex model. That’s Occam’s razor, not numerology
TELL ME ABOUT SCIENCE PEEPEE-TARD.
I’M ALL EARS…
AND LAUGHS.
NO FUCKTARD.
YOUR ASSUMPTIONS AREN’T NUMEROLOGY.
THE QUOTE IS NUMEROLOGY.
This shows that even controlling for IQ, Jewish Americans are overrepresented among the super rich by a factor of four. However before controlling for IQ, they are overrepresented by a factor of 18. This shows NO IT DOES NOT!IQ can explain 78% of Jewish overrepresentation, with only 22% unexplained.
YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT LAST SENTENCE MEANS.
It’s not rocket science.
Jews are overrepresented 18-fold on the Forbes 400. After controlling for IQ, their overrepresentation shrinks to 4.5-fold. Thus the vast majority of overrepresentation goes away
I know that’s not what you want to believe, but that’s what the data shows
TELL ME ABOUT SCIENCE PEEPEE-TARD.
I’M ALL EARS…
Too bad there’s no brain between those ears
peepee is so utterly confused…she’s yet another example of how people obsessed with IQ invariably have LOW IQs.
and peepee is:
1. confusing income with wealth.
2. is LYING about the IQ income correlation. she’s been shown up for being a LIAR by other commenters…yet keeps LYING.
but…
even following peepee’s
LIES, retarded assumptions, and il-logic…
the probability that 36%, 144, or more of the 400 richest americans would be jews based on IQ alone would be…
are you ready for it?
1.372 in 10^49.
stupid people don’t know their stupid.
the probability that 9% or less/36 or fewer, of the richest 400 americans would be jews is…
55%.
in fact the 99th percentile for number of jews among the 400 would be…
49 or 49/400 = 12.25%.
TARDS GONNA TARD!
and peepee is:
1. confusing income with wealth.
At the high end, there’s no meaningful difference between self-made income & self-made wealth
2. is LYING about the IQ income correlation. she’s been shown up for being a LIAR by other commenters…yet keeps LYING.
I said cumulative lifetime income, not income
Here’s the single best study on IQ & income:
MORE LYING.
YOU WERE PROVIDED THE SINGLE BEST STUDY…A META-ANALYSIS…
YET YOU KEEP LYING.
BUT THAT’S IRRELEVANT.
EVEN IF ALL YOU ASSUME WERE TRUE…
YOUR CONCLUSIONS ARE…
100% PURE NUMEROLOGY.
MY LEMMA TO LANGAN’S THEOREM IS DEMONSTRATED ONCE AGAIN…
STUPID PEOPLE DON’T ONLY THINK THAT THEY ARE SMART,
THEY ALSO THINK THAT THOSE SMARTER THAN THEY ARE DUMBER.
A meta-analysis includes a lot of crap studies including people in their 20s, who haven’t reached peak earnings
AND STUPID PEOPLE DON’T THEY’RE STUPID EITHER
PEEPEE’S STUPID IS A SPECIAL KIND.
DUNNING KRUGER AS FUCK.
…don’t know they’re stupid…
sometimes i wish i were stupid so i could type.
and because the IQ wealth correlation is very imperfect one would not expect that 9% of the 400 richest would be jewish.
one would expect a much lower %.
but the figures above are calculated assuming 9% as the expected %.
ALL ONE CAN SAY ABOUT THE 400 FROM THE SUPPOSED IQ WEALTH CORRELATION IS THAT IT WILL HAVE A CERTAIN DISTRIBUTION WITH MEAN GREATER THAN 100 AND SD LESS THAN 15.
IN ORDER TO FIND THE EXPECTED NUMBER OF JEWS AMONG THE 400 ONE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL POSSIBLE SUB-POPULATIONS WITH SUCH A DISTRIBUTION AND THEN INTEGRATE OVER THESE FOR THE % OF JEWS.
PEEPEE IS MENTALLY RETARDED.
“IT’S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.”
BUT IT IS FOR PEEPEE.
IN ORDER TO FIND THE EXPECTED NUMBER OF JEWS AMONG THE 400 ONE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL POSSIBLE SUB-POPULATIONS WITH SUCH A DISTRIBUTION AND THEN INTEGRATE OVER THESE FOR THE % OF JEWS.
Then do it!
Talk is cheap!
Get out the calculator and do it!
But you won’t
Because you can’t
You can’t do what I do
And it kills you
i will…but i can already say WITH APODICTIC CERTAINTY that the result will be < 6%.
you're a jew cock sucking moron peepee.
and a trans-sexual black lesbian.
A cock-sucking… lesbian?
here’s how to do the calculation peepee doesn’t even understand is required…
1. find the distribution f(y|X > x) where f(x, y) is the HYPOTHETICAL bivariate normal distribution of wealth and IQ, and the x in “X > x” is the cut off for being in the 400.
2. integrate or numerically integrate the fraction of jews in each “bin” of this distribution…so, for example, one bin would be those with IQ between 2 and 2.1 SDs above the mean…and the % of jews in this bin would be a lot greater than their % of the population as a whole.
3. at the extremes of the conditional distribution the bins will be simply > +4 and < -4 SDs.
needless to say such a calculation will take me some time to do…and some time to check that i've done it correctly…and even more time to find a distribution of the possible %s of jews among the 400 rather than just an expectation….
i expect i'll have to resort to the pseudo-random monte carlo method…but it's trustworthy.
and the expected value for jews among the 400 richest americans using all of peepee’s retarded assumption is…
i was off apparently…
a little less than 8%.
why isn’t it 9%?
because,
…using peepee’s assumptions…
being even smarter than the mean of those AT the wealth threshold (in an infinite population) makes it even more likely one will be among the richest 400.
that is,
however small the population…if it has a higher mean and the same SD, it will eventually be 100% of those on the VERY HIGH END.
but whatever…
how can i post a spreadsheet on the net…
i used libre office calc.
but what’s the probability jews would be 36% or more?
i haven’t calculated that yet.
but if one imagines an infinite number of possible worlds each with its own 400 etc. then it can be said that the distribution of number of jews among the 400 should be binomial with p = .08 and q = .92…
so the probability that jews are 36% or more of the 400 by IQ alone is EVEN LESS than…
1 in 10^49.
so the probability that jews are 36% or more of the 400 by IQ alone is EVEN LESS than…
1 in 10^49.
But I didn’t argue Jews are 36% by IQ alone. I argued they are about 9% by IQ alone. I can’t explain the remaining 27%
But in your post you say that 78% of Jewish over-representation can be explained by IQ.
So when you factor in the other 22% of the variation, Jews shoot from 9% of the extremely wealthy to 36%?
Ignore me if I’m not making any sense. I just think, as Jorge said, you can’t break down the variation like that when discussing such a skewed distribution.
But in your post you say that 78% of Jewish over-representation can be explained by IQ.
So when you factor in the other 22% of the variation, Jews shoot from 9% of the extremely wealthy to 36%?
What I meant was, before you control for IQ, Jews are overrepresented by a factor of about 18 (36/2)
After controlling for IQ, they are are overrepresented by a factor of 4 (36/9)
So controlling for IQ eliminated 78% of the overrepresentation, since going from a factor of 18 to a factor of 4 is a 78% reduction. That’s all I meant, but it might not have been the best way to describe it.
chart reuse, where’s your blog full of insights?
i have no blog…
though, if sincere, you’re in good company in asking…
the last to ask was a goldman sachs partner…on shoe’s blog…
here he is…a gentile and roman catholic…according to him…
http://hertzfoundation.org/dx/fellows/fellow_profile.aspx?d=10816
see how hard these are to post…but here’s the money shot from the spreadsheet.
the sum of the last column is the expected % of jews among the 400 richest americans using all peepee’s assumptions…it’s a little less than 8%.
110 IQ dist at 2% 100 IQ dist at 98% % 110 in interval jew % of richest
IQ SD dist for richest 0.6666666667 0 SDs 4.64
correlation 0.4
threshold 1.856
-1.810060556 0.00% 0.66% 0.01% 3.51% 3.44% 0.38% 4.12697873175308E-008 conditinal SD 0.916515139
-1.710060556 0.00% 0.21% 0.00% 0.85% 0.83% 0.50% 3.26027290847513E-008
-1.610060556 0.00% 0.27% 0.01% 1.01% 0.99% 0.54% 5.41571184166555E-008
-1.510060556 0.00% 0.33% 0.01% 1.18% 1.16% 0.57% 8.89219326602205E-008
-1.410060556 0.00% 0.42% 0.01% 1.37% 1.35% 0.61% 1.44316916584281E-007
-1.310060556 0.00% 0.51% 0.01% 1.58% 1.55% 0.66% 2.31517577755992E-007
-1.210060556 0.01% 0.62% 0.01% 1.80% 1.77% 0.70% 3.67123840963784E-007
-1.110060556 0.01% 0.75% 0.02% 2.04% 2.00% 0.75% 5.75448873814151E-007
-1.010060556 0.01% 0.90% 0.02% 2.27% 2.23% 0.80% 8.91600353028108E-007
-0.910060556 0.02% 1.06% 0.02% 2.52% 2.47% 0.85% 1.36554808487072E-006
-0.810060556 0.02% 1.24% 0.02% 2.76% 2.70% 0.91% 2.06738399811641E-006
-0.710060556 0.03% 1.44% 0.03% 2.99% 2.93% 0.98% 0.000003094
-0.610060556 0.04% 1.66% 0.03% 3.21% 3.14% 1.04% 4.57718972025032E-006
-0.510060556 0.06% 1.88% 0.04% 3.41% 3.34% 1.11% 6.69378303178413E-006
-0.410060556 0.08% 2.11% 0.04% 3.59% 3.52% 1.19% 0.000009677
-0.310060556 0.11% 2.36% 0.05% 3.74% 3.66% 1.27% 1.38295799725429E-005
-0.210060556 0.14% 2.60% 0.05% 3.86% 3.78% 1.36% 1.95381740600307E-005
-0.110060556 0.19% 2.83% 0.06% 3.94% 3.86% 1.45% 2.7287920582677E-005
-0.010060556 0.24% 3.06% 0.06% 3.98% 3.90% 1.55% 3.76768134232751E-005
0.089939444 0.31% 3.28% 0.07% 3.98% 3.90% 1.65% 5.14281824139065E-005
0.189939444 0.39% 3.47% 0.07% 3.95% 3.87% 1.76% 6.93997318043297E-005
0.289939444 0.49% 3.64% 0.07% 3.87% 3.80% 1.88% 9.2587131322271E-005
0.389939444 0.61% 3.78% 0.08% 3.76% 3.69% 2.01% 0.0001221199
0.489939444 0.74% 3.89% 0.08% 3.62% 3.55% 2.14% 0.0001592476
0.589939444 0.90% 3.96% 0.08% 3.45% 3.38% 2.29% 0.0002053135
0.689939444 1.07% 3.99% 0.08% 3.25% 3.18% 2.44% 0.0002617146
0.789939444 1.27% 3.98% 0.08% 3.03% 2.97% 2.61% 0.0003298473
0.889939444 1.48% 3.93% 0.08% 2.80% 2.75% 2.78% 0.0004110372
0.989939444 1.71% 3.84% 0.08% 2.56% 2.51% 2.97% 0.0005064563
1.089939444 1.95% 3.72% 0.07% 2.32% 2.28% 3.16% 0.0006170283
1.189939444 2.20% 3.57% 0.07% 2.08% 2.04% 3.37% 0.0007433288
1.289939444 2.46% 3.38% 0.07% 1.85% 1.81% 3.60% 0.0008854831
1.389939444 2.72% 3.18% 0.06% 1.63% 1.59% 3.84% 0.0010430727
1.489939444 2.97% 2.96% 0.06% 1.42% 1.39% 4.09% 0.0012150549
1.589939444 3.21% 2.72% 0.05% 1.22% 1.20% 4.36% 0.0013997065
1.689939444 3.43% 2.48% 0.05% 1.04% 1.02% 4.65% 0.0015945981
1.789939444 3.63% 2.24% 0.04% 0.88% 0.86% 4.95% 0.0017966063
1.889939444 3.80% 2.00% 0.04% 0.73% 0.72% 5.27% 0.0020019673
1.989939444 3.93% 1.77% 0.04% 0.61% 0.60% 5.62% 0.002206375
2.089939444 4.02% 1.55% 0.03% 0.50% 0.49% 5.98% 0.0024051199
2.189939444 4.07% 1.35% 0.03% 0.40% 0.40% 6.37% 0.0025932652
2.289939444 4.08% 1.16% 0.02% 0.33% 0.32% 6.77% 0.0027658505
2.389939444 4.05% 0.98% 0.02% 0.26% 0.25% 7.21% 0.0029181117
2.489939444 3.97% 0.83% 0.02% 0.20% 0.20% 7.67% 0.0030457032
2.589939444 3.86% 0.69% 0.01% 0.16% 0.16% 8.15% 0.0031449078
2.689939444 3.71% 0.57% 0.01% 0.12% 0.12% 8.66% 0.0032128204
2.789939444 3.53% 0.47% 0.01% 0.09% 0.09% 9.21% 0.0032474917
2.889939444 3.32% 0.38% 0.01% 0.07% 0.07% 9.78% 0.0032480221
2.989939444 3.10% 0.30% 0.01% 0.05% 0.05% 10.38% 0.0032146004
3.089939444 2.86% 0.24% 0.00% 0.04% 0.04% 11.02% 0.0031484834
3.189939444 2.61% 0.19% 0.00% 0.03% 0.03% 11.69% 0.0030519197
3.289939444 2.36% 0.15% 0.00% 0.02% 0.02% 12.39% 0.0029280241
3.389939444 2.12% 0.11% 0.00% 0.02% 0.01% 13.13% 0.0027806114
3.489939444 1.88% 0.09% 0.00% 0.01% 0.01% 13.91% 0.0026140028
3.589939444 1.65% 0.06% 0.00% 0.01% 0.01% 14.73% 0.0024328184
3.689939444 1.44% 0.05% 0.00% 0.01% 0.01% 15.59% 0.0022417684
3.789939444 1.24% 0.04% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 16.48% 0.0020454581
3.889939444 1.06% 0.03% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 17.42% 0.0018482144
3.989939444 0.90% 0.02% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 18.40% 0.0016539443
4.089939444 0.75% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 19.42% 0.0014660295
4.189939444 0.63% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 20.49% 0.0012872592
4.289939444 0.52% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 21.59% 0.0011198
4.389939444 0.42% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 22.74% 0.0009651994
4.489939444 0.34% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 23.93% 0.000824419
4.589939444 0.28% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 25.17% 0.0006978895
4.689939444 0.22% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 26.44% 0.0005855812
4.789939444 0.18% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 27.76% 0.0004870842
4.889939444 0.14% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 29.11% 0.0004016913
4.989939444 0.11% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 30.51% 0.0003284788
5.089939444 0.08% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 31.94% 0.0002663814
5.189939444 0.06% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 33.40% 0.0002142576
5.289939444 0.05% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 34.90% 0.0001709456
5.389939444 0.04% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 36.43% 0.0001353074
5.489939444 0.03% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 37.98% 0.000106262
5.589939444 0.02% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 39.56% 8.28088907634193E-005
5.689939444 0.02% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 41.17% 6.40421666252658E-005
5.789939444 0.01% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 42.79% 4.91576014636937E-005
5.889939444 0.01% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 44.43% 3.74536633293014E-005
5.989939444 0.01% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 46.08% 2.83281251487996E-005
6.089939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 47.74% 2.12715787843772E-005
6.189939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 49.40% 0.000015859
6.289939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 51.07% 1.17403248725475E-005
6.389939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 52.73% 8.63063870421723E-006
6.489939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 54.39% 6.3007499946892E-006
6.589939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 56.03% 4.56829819725266E-006
6.689939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 57.67% 3.28967660387297E-006
6.789939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 59.28% 2.35292007835021E-006
6.889939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 60.88% 1.67159807493758E-006
6.989939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 62.46% 1.17966786354247E-006
7.089939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 64.01% 0.000000827
7.189939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 65.52% 5.75817462640478E-007
7.289939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 67.02% 3.98425597822783E-007
7.389939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 68.47% 2.73759685022923E-007
7.489939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 69.84% 1.86770721931774E-007
7.589939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 71.29% 1.26787542685929E-007
7.689939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 72.58% 8.53464145529935E-008
7.789939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 73.97% 5.7192009195779E-008
7.889939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 5.05354336120266E-008
7.989939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 3.28391747874431E-008
8.089939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 2.12134097970287E-008
8.189939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 1.36212110301601E-008
8.289939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 8.69298121699307E-009
8.389939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 5.51348464621594E-009
8.489939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 3.47488606791714E-009
8.589939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 2.17600853434455E-009
8.689939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 1.35372732127684E-009
8.789939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 8.36553801745989E-010
8.889939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 5.13436852467806E-010
8.989939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 3.12929348046908E-010
9.089939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 1.89366885114909E-010
9.189939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 1.13760639406751E-010
9.289939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 6.78328922163271E-011
9.389939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 4.01400192526288E-011
9.489939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 2.35684876077562E-011
9.589939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 1.37287336273074E-011
9.689939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 7.93234776517643E-012
9.789939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 4.54541867227908E-012
9.889939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 2.58271267446509E-012
9.989939444 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00% 1.79572103882415E-012
Three other examples of ethnicities majorly overrepresented in the HNWI stakes in the West relative to what their IQs would imply are Greek Americans, Armenian Americans, and Levantine Christians. All four including Jews also have records of being mercantile minorities. I have long suspected that the peoples around that area have some extra large commerce/social manipulation/whatever-factor that allows them to outperform developed over centuries and even millennia of scrounging off larger empires.
Correct, Greeks, Armenians and Levantines are just as successful as the Jews in the millionaire realm. But Jews are a lot more overrepresented as billionaires, and it’s because of their preponderance in value transference industries that are ripe for plucking only in Meriprolestan. Jews outnumber these Christian minorities from the former Ottoman Empire, and they are lot more tribal in the professional realm, hence, they are able to attain success and power, not afforded to their Christian counterparts.
Greek Americans are 1.75% of the 400 richest Americans:
http://isteve.blogspot.ca/2012/07/forbes-400-by-ethnicity.html
That’s a lot, considering they’re only 0.4% of the U.S. population. Not as overrepresented as Jews of course, but they’re doing better than even the high IQ group Indian Americans.
That’s because almost all Indian Americans cannot pass as racially “White”. Furthermore, it’s about assimilating to an “Anglo” liberal narrative, which I think most wealthy Indians do not have at the moment.
If only most Indian Americans can resemble someone like the current CEO of Microsoft, Satya Nadella.
so what is f(x|Y > y)?
i’m too lazy to figure it out, but…/
the estimated p-p plot, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%E2%80%93P_plot, was not perfectly straight vs a normal distribution.
so i’ll guess it isn’t normal, but it’s close.
Thank you for your input, Jorge. I’m not sure if Pumpkin’s aware of binomial distributions or math stats but his method is clearly mistaken in this post.
The more I think about, the more I’m amazed by the overwhelming success of Jews in America. It clearly can’t be explained (only) by IQ, but I don’t really buy nepotism either. And I don’t buy that personality factors explain their success either, as I’ve met East Indians with dispositions similar to Jews, but they don’t have nearly the success in achieving high wealth in America.
If we take Jorge’s assumptions to be true (Jews consciously/unconsciously looking out for other Jews), why haven’t other high-IQ racial groups copied their behavior?
I’m not sure what you think is inappropriate about my method, but Chartreuse has not contradicted my conclusions, because I stated that IQ insufficiently explains Jewish success. If I understand Chartreuse, all he is saying is that the odds of Jews being so overrepresented are vanishingly small if IQ were the sole cause of their success but that’s an argument I never made.
In order for his critique to be compelling, he needs to show that i overestimated how many Jews are expected on the Forbes 400 based on IQ alone. I might have, but he hasn’t shown that yet…unless I’ve missed something.
The source of Jewish success is part iq, strong verbal & math skills, part nepotism, part hard work, part peer & family pressure to choose high paying occupations, part connections with other Jews.
As someone who lives in NYC and thus have experience with Jews I can say that the over representation of jews is most likely due to ethnic nepotism rather than innovation and intelligence.
Jews are simply given much more support and funding due to being jews
For example there are many charity organizations that give zero interest loans to small jewish businesses.
In addition growing up in nyc jews received the following, high quality private schools that exclude non jews, free summer camp experiences for jews only, free trip to isreal that is a week long, where participants go to exclusive events stay at 5 star hotels and dine at 5 star restaurants. Free networking events that exclude non jews that take place on skyscraper rooftops, central park zoos, art museum’s with paid live entertainment, high quality liquor and food.
Many of the Jews in these networking events are extremely wealthy so any person with a business idea can easily find funding or business partners, they are also gatekeepers and will give jobs and opportunities to other jews.
A lot of jew business especially like Google and Facebook are blatant stolen ideas.
The Google algorithm was plagiarized from robin li the founder of baidu and Facebook was just another MySpace clone in a sea of MySpace clones and friend making websites.
everything to some level is derivative. Facebook is vastly better than Myspace in every conceivable way. if they did ‘steal ‘ it, it’s a vast improvement.
Not in its early incarnation, early facebook was just create a profile and add other profiles as your friends and communicate with each other.
There were already many websites available that had larger install bases and more features. They ended up getting beat by facebook because their growth stalled from lack of funding and lack of exposure.
Zuckberg then hired developers to copy features from other social networking websites.
It is quite clear that the early success of Facebook is due to it being owned by jews
The continued success comes from talented developers who created many of the other new functionalities that were groundbreaking.
Back to my original point a poor jew has a lot more opportunity than a poor white when controlled for intelligence and similar career goals.
Numerous exclusive private jewish only events happen every week in Manhattan where poor jews can rub shoulders with rich ones (for free) and get undeserved job opportunities, financing and media exposure. Poor jews can also enjoy amenities paid for by rich jews or from money scammed from foolish gentiles (see cash 4 kids it’s a jew run charity scam)
Is standard deviation on IQ tests all the same for different ethnicities? If say, for Blacks ,sd is somewhat 15 or/and the distribution is less normal in the superior+ range, it would minimize over- and underrepresentation of the groups that we have now on the basis of their IQ’s. Did I miss something, PP?
There’s very little good data on the SD of different races/ethnic groups. Finding the SD of a population is much harder than finding the mean because you need to sample people at the extremes who are much harder to find and test than people in the middle of the distribution.
My working assumption is that all ethnic groups have an SD of about 15. That’s almost certainly wrong, but in the absence of data, it’s the Occam’s razor assumption.
You are missing three major ideas:
1) Secular Jews (the high IQ Jews who participate in the modern economy) have a population pyramid heavily skewed old. As a result, they are a larger percent of the older population, and at birth, I would guess well under 1% of the population.
2) Jewish IQ is mostly verbal, and most tasks in the modern world require verbal ability.
3) Groups were not really selected based on intelligence, but rather, traits that are correlated with intelligence. For example, Jews were selected based on their ability to be successful at capitalism. As a result, they tend to be very driven to succeed, more driven than merely indicated by their IQ. I know very few laid back Jews. In fact, one great argument for capitalism is that it selects for higher IQ, proving it is meritocratic, as shown by Jews.
….for Blacks sd is somewhat 15…””
not all symbols can be posted, PP, to my surprise. I wanted to say fewer than 15 for Blacks and higher than 15 for Jews
of course peepee’s assumptions are retarded.
but they are also “sensitive”…
if jews and half jews were 5% of billionaire aged americans, their mean IQ was 112, and the mean IQ of other americans was 97, then…
it would be expected that they would be 30% of the 400 richest.
another problem with peepee’s assumptions is that the jews among the 400 are overwhelmingly in finance, real estate, mass media, fashion, entertainment, etc. and not in goods producing or distributing industries.
but the mean must be 100 for the population as a whole.
in this case the expected % is 23%.
if the jew and half-jew IQ were 115, then the expected % would be…29%.
quakers and universalists together should be about 2% of the 400.
are they?