A recent poll found that of the subset of my readers who are 1) American, and 2) old enough to be done school, an astonishing 38% have attended elite U.S. colleges. This is not something I’m proud of because as a Canadian, I’m very much opposed to America’s Ivy League caste system, however statistically it’s interesting because according to scholar Jonathan Wai, people who attended elite schools are likely in the top 1% of U.S. cognitive ability (IQ 133+), at least on college admission tests.
Of course many people who attend these schools did not score in the top 1% and many people who attended poor schools, did score in the top 1%, however Wai’s logic is that exceptions in both directions cancel out, so if 38% of my readers attended these schools, then 38% likely have IQs of 133+, assuming of course that the subset of readers who are American and old enough to have graduated from college and professional school are representative of my readers as whole.
Assuming the IQs of my readers are normally distributed with a standard deviation of 15, then this implies the average reader has an IQ of 129. On a scale where white Americans have a mean IQ of 100 (SD = 15) and all Americans have a mean of 96 (SD = 15.8), and white Americans PhDs have a mean IQ of 123, it is quite incredible that my readers might have a mean IQ of 129: roughly two standard deviations above the U.S. white mean.
Although even two standard deviations above the mean is really not enough to understand the concepts I discuss on this blog, as evidenced by the fact that only one person (out of thousands of very high IQ people) has obtained the pumpkin person degree in heritability (though another person almost got the degree, but failed to adequately prepare). I have found that even people who are three standard deviations above the mean in IQ lack the subtlety to think flexibly about very basic statistical concepts.
There are roughly 13 regular commenters on this blog that I will list in alphabetical order:
Afrosapiens
Animekitty
Blayze
bucephalus
Cale
Carl Churchill
fallingsnow
grey enlightenment
Jorge Videla/Mugabe/duke of leinster/First Ypres
Judah-sphere
JS
Santoculto
Swank
Based on the theoretical IQ distribution of my blog readers, we would expect these 13 to have the following IQs (though we can’t be sure which IQ goes with which person):
150 (Very Brilliant)
145
140 (Brilliant)
137
134
131 (Extremely Bright)
128
125
122 (Very Bright)
118
113 (Bright)
108
103 (Average range)
Santoculto has the 103
Damn, harsh.
Yup. But probably not, because my verbal intelligence in my native language is higher. Hitchens is right about pp who use iq as ”personal intelligence self-analysis”. Just the iqtards. My tip is, if i make a iq test, ”mein” iq performance will be between (”or” among) 105 and the higher estimative, 115. My verbal intelligence is very higher in portuguese, but verbal iq also include arythmethic. Then, my ”verbal” intelligence will be at most 140, higher average estimative. The rest, i’m dumb in spatial and maths.
PP (i mean, people here) considered me as the least intelligent ”regular commenter” because my aenglish is grotesquoise and because i write all the time about my speculations like ”the conceptually correct concept for heredity” (and not about twins study). Many here should think
”What a fuck!!! what this melungeon fagzilian is talking!!!”
”stupid don’t know they are stupid”
😉
For me is not a offense to be considered as the ”least intelligent” here. Probably, it’s mean in real life the exactly opposite, 😉
Intelligence, since a some month, for me, lost its relevance, just practical wisdom matter, the rest is the rest.
In other times i could be nervous (stupidly nervous) about it. Now, i’m extremely fine with myself.
Jorge Videla probably has the 150. Lion has the 122, which is close to the 120 he scored on the WAIS. I have the 137 according to my SATs, but I’d probably get the 131 on a real I.Q. test. Don’t know about the rest!
Bucephalus and Cale would probably both be somewhere in the top three. Not sure where.
This feels strange. I’ve never taken an I.Q. test. I feel like I should.
It’s too bad that Videla doesn’t have his own blog. Lion seems like an average “White” guy to me.
Swank is very bright as well.
Does anyone really believe Jorge has IQ 150? He mostly repeats the same thing over and over and over and over and…you get the idea.
Not that he isn’t clever sometimes.
I need to start using different personas like him.
I was assuming his SAT/GRE scores are what he says they are.
Just curious, but what do you guys on here do for a living besides commenting on blogs all day? I know Afrosapiens is a lawyer, but considering the intellectual firepower we supposedly have here, I would expect some other highly successful people to be hanging out here.
Sorry, Lion. You won’t get a response from me. Too sad. I hope to get better, tho.
Student at a top university and sometime scientist
I wanna believe Pumpkin is a genius but his educational background doesn’t sound too impressive. Just sayin’
That was Judas-sphere, not me.
My guess for Pumpkin is 125.
I’m gonna sound mean saying this, but I don’t give a fuck cuz I’m Judas-sphere:
Santo, Animekitten, JS, bottom three
Goddamn, you asshole!
I feel little irony here. Well, as you guys dislike my comments i will not comment further here. I am really in need of a pretext, can be very foolish to stop commenting here because this blog does increase my hatred for humanity. I want to reduce the channels that feed my hatred for natural disaster called ” humanity ” and you guys are not contributing for it.
But I’ll keep haunting other blogs because it is a hobby of mine as an undead poet.
I am the voice of your conscience, adieuxx!!! ;)(=
Come now, Lion. No need to point fingers. I’m sure those three individuals are perfectly bright. We like your comments, Santo.
If it makes you feel better, Judas-sphere has IQ 93 and lives in the ghetto. But he’s a sociopath so he likes tearing people down.
New findings from insights. Or well, some of it is new, some of it is the same old just made more obvious.
All genes for IQ selectively expressed in brain and expressed preferentially before birth, education genes expressed in foetal brain. (DNAase1 hypersensitive regions)
Astonishingly rare to find dramatic increases in IQ or extreme achievement sans IQ.
More:
Idiots who deny GCTAs efficacy in finding intelligence genes should read these:
http://drjamesthompson.blogspot.ca/2015/09/genius-avoid-rare-functional-genes.html?spref=tw
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/mp2015108a.html
http://infoproc.blogspot.ca/2015/09/snp-hits-on-cognitive-ability-from-300k.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&m=1
And to all the shitweeds here; keeping up with the intelligence research literature takes a minimum IQ of at least 120
In my opinion most commenters here have below average IQs, some of them are obviously not above 80 (Santoculto, JS, Cale, Carl Churchill).
Pumpkin is slightly above average, Lion is somewhat above Pumpkin, both of you guys however have your intelligence skrewed in practice by bias and ignorance.
Swank and Videla are around 120, and I obviously am the most intelligent, educationally and professionally most successful and in addition to that, the richest though not the oldest but the blackest. I’m also the most humble.
If I’m wrong in my estimate, IQ has no meaning then.
My ranking
1= Afrosapiens
2= Swank
3= Duke of Leinster
4= Bucephalus
5= Blayze (Good thinking skills in spite of terrific ignorance and troubled education)
6= Lion of the Judas-Sphere
7= Pumpkin person
8= Grey enlightenment
9= Fallingsnow
10= Animekitty (never really read his comments, but the pseudonym sounds retarded)
11= Carl Churchill
12= Cale
13= Santoculto
14= JS
LOL! But realistically the ranking from smartest to dumbest is probably
1 = Videla
2= Pumpkin
3= Cale
4 = Fallingsnow
5 = bucephalus
6 = Judah-sphere (aced the SATs & wonderlic; smartest black in the entire HBD-o-sphere but too humble to realize it which is another sign of intelligence)
7 = Grey enlightenment
8 = Afrosapiens (second smartest black in the entire HBD-o-sphere)
9 = blaze (tied with JayMan as 3rd smartest black in the HBD-o-sphere )
10 = panda
11 = JS
12 = santoculto
13 = Aimekitty
14 = Swank
15 = Chuchill (all he does is provide pro-HBD links with no real understanding)
Knowing my IQ I doubt someone is above me here, or that very person hides it well.
There is no way Swank ranks so low, he’s in the top 3 at least.
Lion is not that dumb but he’s no way brighter than me, with more knowledge and more flexible thinking skills he could produce something respectable but he’s intellectually lazy as f**k. Now in terms of real life outcomes, it seems that Lion does not do that well, I can’t see him in a highly skilled job, he’s rather disappointed by his tertiary education and is sociopathic, he clearly has a lot of resentment against many things in the world… To make short, he expresses many signs of someone whose life sucks.
Forgot Panda, I would place him just above Santoculto.
Cale is definitely dull, more likely in the bottom 3 than in the top 3. I find the student-teacher relationship he has with Pumpkin very cute though, I’m close to being jealous of it.
Glad to see I’m not the one finding obvious that JS, Santoculto and Churchill have below average IQs combined with possible mental disorders.
In my opinion, Pumpkin doesn’t make the top 3 on his own blog and that’s kind of ironic.
Afrofatuous: that was laughably self-indulgent, ignorant, and tendentious. So, the more any given reader agrees with you, Afrosapiens, the paragon of intelligence and objectivity, the smarter he/she is? Sloppy thinking–if it can be called thinking. It’s really just vanity, puerility, lack of vision.
Also, you ignored Videla’s, Lion’s, and my test scores–scores which place Videla way above 120, Lion in the “very bright” category, and me way above “below average”.
You are not humble. This post is the most self-congrulatory thing I have seen on this blog. So sad.
As Fallingsnow suggested, Afrosapiens list would have a lot more credibility if he didn’t put the 3 most anti-HBD regulars in the top 3. Statistically what are the odds of that?
I do think anti-HBDers are generally smarter and I strongly reject HBD myself, but Afro takes it way too far. A lot of anti-HBDers are dumb as a rock so if you truly have a high IQ, you would not make such simplistic generalizations.
Relax, I was being sarcastic when I wrote I was humble, there is a simple reason why I can’t be humble: I’m French, which kind means Latin macho.
Not understanding sarcasm is a sign of below average intelligence.
My ranking is not made according to who agrees with me, It’s done according to how many times one commenter makes me wonder “how old is he ?” “did he drop out in first grade” “does he know that what he writes makes no sense ?” “is he aware that he contradicts himself ?” “was he beaten by his momma ?”.
Afrosapiens even the dumbest person here is above average compared to the general population.
There are some incredibly brilliant minds posting here. No way in hell either you or Swank are anywhere near the top three.
I have to respectfully disagree with your list, White Nationalist. Thanks for the compliment, though.
Jayman is one of the most important people in HBD-sphere now; he’s brought behavioral genetics to the layperson more than any other writer on the Internet and he’s meticulous about citing his sources. And his use of maps and other data visualizations has been very innovative.
Jayman is around IQ 140- 3rd smartest writer in the HBDsphere after Steve Hsu and Gregory Cochran, and at the same level as Razib Khan.
Judah-sphere can you rank the 15 regulars on this blog just like White nationalist and Afrosapiens did. I want to average several such rankings and see what the result is for an upcoming post.
Afrosapiens, you’re not even trying to be objective. Your list is strictly based on how much people agree with you.
Don’t want to list people by intelligence, that sounds too mean.
You and I never agree and I ranked you quite high.
I will go further in my ranking. people ranked above Pumpkin have IQs above 115. Those under Cale are under 85. High intelligence is well represented among commenters but we still have the whole global bell curve on here.
Fuck out the way, sucka, I’ll do it then:
1 = bucephalus- I think he’s the smartest.
2 = Videla- Minor celebrity with multiple aliases and unique typography. Assuming his test scores really are what he says they are, he must be pretty intelligent. I enjoy the literary allusions he makes, but I don’t see how he’s IQ 150 based on his comments alone. I’ve known a few IQ 150s personally (perfect scores on SAT and ACT, Science Olympiad winners, Intel Science Competition winners, one was accepted to several Ivys and Stanford) and they were incredibly well spoken, analytical, and highly successful. I see moderate indications that he has a measure of the first two qualities; I have no idea about the latter.
3= Swank- Seems smart, good at acting as a counterpoint to the HBDers without merely regurgitating Steven Jay Gould. At one time I thought he was a ethno-nationalist for some reason but now I’m not sure why.
4 = Pumpkin Person. Consistently writes interesting articles and manages this blog, providing great rebuttals and feedback to the commenters. Good Job!
5 = Carl Churchill- Provides good links. Can’t really think of anything more to say.
6 = Judah-sphere- IQ 120 confirmed by both WAIS-IV and Otis-Lennon. I contribute a lot here.
7 = Afrosapiens- Sounds highly successful according to his own statements, but vastly overrates his own intelligence and ability, and seems to actually believe he’s the most brilliant mind in the HBD-sphere. He’s either delusional or just pulling our leg. Impressed by his English-writing abilities, though.
8 = Grey enlightenment- I don’t really read too much of what he says, but I’m sure he’s a decent guy. I believe he comments at LOTB too??
9 = Cale- Makes some good comments, but mostly just piggybacks off of what Pumpkin says. in fact, I had to re-read his comments just to remember what he’s said in the past.
10 = Fallingsnow- seems nice. Can’t remember her viewpoints (yes, I think she’s a girl.)
11= Panda@War- I know I put him at 120 before, but I gonna revise down. I think he’s an angry Chinaman.
12 = Blayze- Has some interesting comments, but writes at the level of a 4th grader, perhaps due to his poor educational experiences (better spelling and formatting, please!)
13 = Santoculto- Feelings easily hurt, argumentative, writes English at 3rd grade level.
14 = JS- broken record, makes broad generalizations, anti-Semitic, mostly just rides on his anti-minority hobby horse without contributing much. Also, uses strange syntax for native English speaker.
15 = Animekitty. Seems pretty dumb. May hurt him/herself at some point.
Anyone, if anyone’s mad, get over yourself.
And Pumpkin- have you ever done serial killer IQs, or radio talk show host IQs? That seems up your alley. Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh would both be very good (for the radio hosts).
Judah-sphere, thanks for doing the ranking.
And Pumpkin- have you ever done serial killer IQs,
I’ve posted a bit on that. Maybe I’ll discuss it more in October in honor of Halloween
or radio talk show host IQs?
I was planning on getting to them very soon
Nothing on JayMan’s blog is beyond the average college grad let alone at the level of physics PhDs like Cochran and Hsu. I’d put his IQ at 115.
It doesn’t take a genius to be an excellent and important blogger.
I don’t think he’s above 120 like you and Afrosapiens.
How educated is he?
How educated is he?
No idea. He tries to put out as little about himself as possible. All that he has told the general public is that he grew up in New York, lives in Maine, is married to a white woman, and is about to have his 2nd kid. And he’s of Jamaican descent, of course. I’m assuming he’s currently working on a PhD in some area or another (probably either genetics or some other STEM field).
If he’s getting a PhD in STEM then he might be as smart as you claim, but I see no evidence he has any STEM education, let alone PhD level. The stuff he talks about on his blog is what first year psychology undergrads learn.
Also, he says he observed HBD growing up in the inner city. Usually it’s the lower IQ blacks who come from the ghetto as JayMan apparently did.
Jayman – 140? He’s like Swank, except he has a blog that collects websites.
It’s almost like Spam!
Jayman is definitely not intelligent because contrary to you guys, ignorance is not an excuse for him. After amassing and creating data and maps, he’s still unable to produce something that is not nonsensical, he contradicts himself and often just doesn’t understand or see every aspect of the statistics he presents.
“JayMan … at the same level as Razib Khan.”
No he isn’t.
I apologize for the asperity. It’s just maddening to see such rumble-bumble–partly because it disregards the facts, and partly because I am NOT an HBDer–I’m merely interested in Pumpkin’s I.Q posts. But Afro assumed I am an HBDer and decided to deride me, just as derided almost everyone on this blog, HBDers or not.
Santo and JS, have a detachment from reality.
They believe in this Anti-Asian and Anti-Jew stuff quite literally, not realizing it’s just designed for David Duke, Ann Coulter, etc., to help sell their books.
Afro: I’m sorry for overreacting. Sometimes I am too much of a literalist. Sometimes I think I might have mild Aspberger’s or something along those lines. I apologize. Please forget I said what I said.
Don’t apologize. You’ve done nothing wrong. And no you don’t have aspergers, Afrosapiens simply lacks the IQ to use sarcasm in a recognizable way.
“I obviously am the most intelligent, educationally and professionally most successful and in addition to that, the richest though not the oldest but the blackest. I’m also the most humble.”
Man, don’t need to graduate from Harvard to spot the paradox here. When someone brags and concludes his humble, it is obvious that it’s sarcastic. But I can keep on bragging, you guys can make every type of ranking you want to, I am the one every one here would dream to be and I would never trade my place with anyone commenting on this blog.
I probably have to remind you, I have been officially identified as gifted (that’s why I skipped a grade) and I even have a more successful career than everybody (except pumpkin) in the HBD sphere, I’ve been a co-author on Bob Lindsay’s blog for a couple weeks. There ain’t no glass ceiling fo’ a nigga like me.
Yep, knew Pumpkin left someone off: Panda@War
Overly combative and believes in Asian superiority. But otherwise decent thinker. IQ 120.
And how are Asians superior to Whites? Panda has yet to prove his point. Last time I checked, Asians flood western nations like locusts, but it’s not the other way around, when it comes to Whites migrating to East Asian nations.
Reasons;
-IQ
-Cranial Capacities
-Testosterone levels
-Whites sometimes move to Asian countries
-Colonizing Africa in a more cost-effective/efficient way than what the Europeans did.
**You can’t just make stuff up**, Spanish.
Panda was nuts (he spoke about himself in third person), but Asians ARE superior.
If Asians were the dominant race throughout history, and we were all Asians here we would not be making these far fetched excuses for Whites, despite IQ, Crime, and Cranial Capacity data.
HISTORY
whites were pioneer in many very important ”things”
if east asians were ””superior”” than whites so…
You’re clearly anti-white, a racist that hate white people, want to see the destruction of white people, be honest here (very difficult to the tortuous ”libtards”).
FACTS are FACTS.
Cry “White genoicide” all the way home, but
you CANT be White.
No matter what you do.
I’m dumb, because I don’t really participate in your IQ discussions.
And my agenda here, has been mostly of anti-black and anti-asian tirade, based on personal observation (or speculation).
I don’t think you’re dumb at all. Some people think you’re dumb, but some people even think I’m dumb! The bottom line is you’re one of the most successful people here, raking in six figures in a city as competitive as NYC!.
The average for millionnaire its 108, so its totally possible that JS have one of the lowest IQ in the comment section because according to this article the dumbest should have an IQ of 103.
But it would make him average not dumb.
Videla/Mugabe has called you dumb repeatedly in the past. Furthermore, he uses several names and I’m thinking afrosapiens is also one of them. But does it matter? I just look for comments that suit my agenda. Videla also dispelled the East Asian Superiority Myth.
Robert Gabriel Mugabe (aka Videla etc) does think I’m dumb, but then he thinks all the greatest minds in HBD are dumb, so I’m in very good company.
Of several excellent HBD bloggers, he thinks I’m the least dumb :-):
https://pumpkinperson.com/2015/02/04/hbd-chick-jayman-talk-about-inclusive-fitness/#comments
And it’s totally obvious that Mugabe and Afrosapiens are different people.
Mugabe and Afrosapiens have very different and idiosyncratic styles.
Pumpkin can you also do your own ranking of the 15 regular commenters ?
Maybe but first i want to see what you guys think without my influence dominating too much. Can you do a ranking?
Just to clarify, I don’t think anyone here is below average (IQ 100). No one here has any really gross abnormalities in thinking and everyone writes fairly coherently. Which is really impressive compared to some forums/blogs I’ve been on.
Really? I betcha, you would drop me off from the list of smart commentators.
Videla/Mugabe agrees with me that Jews have bad taste (prolish), and are usually lacking in any tangible talent (Jews hardly create anything). Then there’s the English Speaking Sphere, which is mostly dysfunctional and also prolish, relatively comparing to other 1st world entities, which he also agrees with me 100%.
You and Videla do agree on a lot. I noticed that a long time ago.
There is a lot of bullshit and silliness around here. I just cant ignore it.
First of all, according to Afrosapiens I am one of the dumbest commenters(IQ under 80). And this for the simple reason that I am the only one who really have pointed out the illogism and the dishonesty of his argumentation. He can mastered approximatively all the regular commenters of this blog with his lawyers tricks to make his opponent looks stupid. But even with his higher english level and the fact that he is largely more use than me to point out whats wrong on his opponents argumentation and to discredit them, he wasnt able to answer to my last comment on our debate on “Apocalypse Neanderthal” by using the laughable pretext that the comment wasnt directly post by myself. I think he was relieved to end this discussion in which I was obviously ridiculing himself even if it wasnt my goal but his.
Some people here think I am only repeating what Pumpkin says. Of course that is not true. I am only reacting to the article I am reading, its an evidence of adaptability and high fluid intelligence. The lowest IQ regular commenters(i.e. JS, Santoculto, Animekitty, Carl Churchill and Kevin Orff which is no longer a regular commenter) are the ones who are often off topic. I also contribute a lot to this blog, I think I am the most mentionned commenter in Pumpkins articles. So I am pretty surprise that Lion of the Judah-sphere accuse me of exactly what he is doing (not with Pumpkin but with Jayman). But its finally not surprising that Lion put my IQ below 120 given the fact dumber people lack the IQ to understand people who are really smarter than themselves.
People who are not seeing me as very intelligent dont really understand what intelligence is. Intelligence is not about having precise knowledge about some scientific studies or article. I am lazy as fuck so you shouldnt expecting me to bring links of studies in my comments or some other things like that. Intelligence is about thinking by oneself. And thats exactly what I am doing. But anyway, I know my actual IQ on WAIS IV, the age I began to write and how many grades I have skip. The goal of this comment is to bring some truth, because all these comments speculating about my intelligence could influence peoples judgement on my future comments.
Now my own ranking which is of course not the absolute truth is:
1 = Cale (154*)
)
2 = Bucephalus (140)
3 = Pumpkin (130-135)
4 = Swank (120-130)
4 = Afrosapiens (120-130)
5 = Lion of the Judah-sphere (120*)
7 = Grey enlightenment (115)
7 = Panda@war (115)
7 = Blayze (115*)
7 = Carl Churchill (115)
8 = Santoculto (110)
8 = JS (110)
9 = Animekitty (
*real IQ
I am too lazy to provide an explanation for each one. But I can tell that Afrosapiens did obtain an IQ score higher than 130 on an IQ test he passed when he was a child, but given the fact that he was adopted by high class Whites and that Blacks mature faster than Whites, his IQ may have regress to the mean.
I didnt rank some commenters(i.e Mugabe and Fallingsnow) because I didnt read enough comments of them or because of mental illness.
During the writing of my comment I changed the rank order so there is a mistake, you actually have to shift the last numbers because there is no 6.
Ahh, I forgot about Kevin Orff, he hasn’t been here for a while. I wonder if he’s related to Carl Orff.
And Mugabe/Videla/St. Bruno is one of the prolific commenters in the HBD-sphere but you didn’t rank him. Are you implying he’s off his rocker?
They say there’s a fine line between madness and genius.
Cale, can you please try to rank Mugabe and Fallingsnow even if you’re not sure about them
I want to average all the rankings and i can’t
use yours if its incomplete
I would put Mugabe between me and Bucephalus because he probably have an extremely high IQ assuming he isnt a compulsive liar but he is still under me because my score is depress by processing speed and working memory because of stress (and even in some perceptual reasoning subtests like the one with cubes).
Fallingsnow feels her (she is a woman according to Lion) IQ is 131, so I would put her between you and Swank/Afrosapiens.
The processing speed section of the WAIS-IV is the least g loaded. I don’t even think it should be part of an IQ test because it’s more a measure of psycho-motor speed than intelligence.
I wonder why both you and Judah-sphere were given the WAIS-IV. That’s a very expensive high quality test that very few people get to take.
I dont know, may be its different in France. I actually taked the test with a psychologist specialized in gifted people. And I taked the test last year.
You mean you took it to get into a school gifted class?
I wonder why both you and Judah-sphere were given the WAIS-IV. That’s a very expensive high quality test that very few people get to take.
Most places around here offer it for $700-$1000. I took it through a department at a local university for only $100 🙂 .
Most places around here offer it for $700-$1000. I took it through a department at a local university for only $100
I guess what I’m getting at is there’s usually a special purpose why one is taking the test. You can’t typically just walk into a psychologist’s office and say “Hi, I’d like to take the WAIS-IV; how much will it cost?”
It’s usually administered as part of a larger diagnostic process.
No, I was in my last year of high school so it was pretty useless to change. I precised this to provide a part of explanation on the fact that I taked an high quality test. And I taked the test with this psychologist because there was already a lot of evidence of my giftedness.
You can’t typically just walk into a psychologist’s office and say “Hi, I’d like to take the WAIS-IV; how much will it cost?”
Yep. I told a psychologist that I thought I had ADHD (I’ve actually been prescribed ADD meds in the past) and they referred me to a test administrator for testing. They also gave some other tests like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_Making_Test
They really shouldn’t have wikipedia articles about these tests. People who read those article will have an unfair advantage on the test
Perhaps. Although the Trail Making is so cognitively simple that knowing about it ahead of time probably won’t give you much of an advantage, unless you have some severe cognitive deficits.
Cale, are you implying that you were only diagnosed as gifted when you were in high school ?
That shouldn’t happen, giftedness/retardedness is mostly a childhood thing. It looses importance in adulthood and rarely appears so late in life.
And of course, in France, there are no gifted programs after primary school so the reason you had to take an IQ test is that you probably have behavioral issues, you were tested on a good day but your everyday functioning intellectual skills are obviously below average, look at yourself man.
No, I skip 2 grades in kindegarten and one in elementary school. I already took some kind of cognitive test when I was in elementary school but it was really quick and probably not precise at all. I did very well in my scholarship until high school. When I was in high school I didnt go to school for 2 years and when I came back my parents decided to send me see a specialized psychologist for my orientation, thats when I took the WAIS IV.
I have no behavioural issues, I think its normal to be tired of being almost everyday surrounded by people who are 40 IQ points under you. People I have met in real life always says that I am smart, even those who dont like me. You are just here trying to reduce the cognitive dissonance you are experiencing at the moment.
Btw, I have knew a few adopted Blacks and they were always intransigent about racism. They were always getting butthurt when someone was doing a racist joke. I think Blacks raised by Whites have a much more egalitarian and idealistic vision of the world. I seriously think you are really hurt by what you are seeing on the HBD-sphere, thats why you are one of the most prolific anti-HBD commenter in the entire HBD-sphere. You have to be careful, your obsession is slowly driving you crazy, just look at the irationnal comments you recently made about the commenters of this blog. If you were seriously thinking that all HBD is total bullshit you wouldnt lost your time commenting here, because you know that its not by being disrespectful and humiliate people that you will change their mind or even the mind of people who are reading you without participate to the discussion because they will just see you as some very arrogant and disagreeable person. The only reason for you to do this is to satiate the intense hatred you have against racists(i.e for you, people who are more or less saying that Blacks are genetically inferior to Whites).
It’s just unbelievable you were 3 years ahead of your age schoolwise. You don’t show signs of someone that is that exceptional, or skipping grades didn’t make you any good. And dropping out for two years in high school is clearly not something that happens without behavioral issues. But I can’t deny you scored well on your test, you wouldn’t give so much importance to IQ otherwise. But since you’re not that intelligent and your life seems pretty shitty, your IQ is the only thing you can pride yourself on and greatly overrate its value.
I skipped only one grade, (la grande section) because I virtually learned to read on my own and because I was always complaining about school, found it boring. In primary school I did great, in middle school, I was lazy and doing moderately above average but never did homework, slacked off and mostly focused on being the coolest and most badass guy in my golden ghetto.
Contrary to you, it’s only in high school that I started to feel a pressure to excel, what I did until I graduated from law school, though I kept that winning socially oriented personality I grew in my early teenage. I got kind of a self-evident charisma that people can’t fail to notice, whether I want it or not, it’s too hard for me to shrink myself and allow someone to take the lead. You know like when Robert Lindsay made me an author after a couple days commenting on his blog, that promotion just did not surprise me.
No Cale, you didn’t meet adopted blacks, much like you never went to Africa as you claim to. You’re bad at lying, not even trying to be credible, according to you, you’ve been to every place, seen everything but still manage to believe that HBD BS.
As far as myself, racist jokes don’t hurt me because they are jokes and because as an adopted black, I don’t see any difference between me and my mostly white peers and relatives. I see myself as black skinned and featured white as there are blue eyed and red haired whites. Differences are skin deep and superficial, that’s what my life experience has taught me.
I’m commenting here because HBD is not a joke, you’re not trying to be funny here, you believe you are exposing the truth. But that’s not the issue, what’s really dangerous is that you are growing the next Dylan Roof and it’s important that readers see how you react to rational contradictory arguments and don’t take what is here at face value. I’m not trying to enlighten HBDers, I’m just trying to contain their poison.
Afrosapiens, it’s totally obvious from reading Cale’s comments over the last many months that he’s smarter than 99.9% of whites.
You’re a lawyer, where the average IQ is about 125, which is very high, but nowhere near Cale’s level, so you have no idea what truly brilliant people are really like because you seldom encounter them.
“You’re a lawyer, where the average IQ is about 125”
I’m not just a lawyer, I’m a precocious lawyer. What is Cale’s profession ? No one knows, but obviously not something that is cognitively as demanding.
Discussions I had with Cale didn’t make me feel my opponent was anywhere close to average, and he’s lucky he’s in the comfort of his mamma’s home, safe behind a computer screen, if he was in a court or debating in front of any real audience, he would simply look pathetic.
The best way of assessing someone’s intelligence is not to judge their statements but analyzing their questions, and the questions Cale frequently asks here are a sign of his stupidity,however he only reveals the full extent of his unintelligence when he starts trying to insult me with his grotesque English or with his unsophisticated French.
I’m not just a lawyer, I’m a precocious lawyer
You graduated law school young because you skipped a grade because you scored high on an IQ test as a child…in other words, your main accomplishment was scoring high on an IQ test, just like Cale.,
The best way of assessing someone’s intelligence is not to judge their statements but analyzing their questions, and the questions Cale frequently asks here are a sign of his stupidity,
No his questions are extremely insightful. They seem dumb to you because you think you have all the answers. What you don’t realize is all your answers are wrong. You wrongly assume that because most academics agree with your politically correct dogma, that you are enlightened and educated. What you don’t realize is that we are living in the dark ages when it comes to HBD. The horrors of Nazi Germany were so evil that the pendulum has swung to the opposite extreme, where the most educated people in society must deny biological determinism in even its mildest form.
You confuse political correctness, denial and white guilt for scientific truth, which is naive, but quite common.
however he only reveals the full extent of his unintelligence when he starts trying to insult me with his grotesque English or with his unsophisticated French.
The fact that he’s fluent in two languages at all is impressive. He understands and absorbs what I write here much better than the vast majority of my native English readers.
“You graduated law school young because you skipped a grade because you scored high on an IQ test as a child”
I didn’t skip because of my IQ, I did so because staying at my age-corresponding level would have failed me and made me angry against school. This IQ test was only performed to identify what was going on with more accuracy and exclude behavioral issues in explaining why I didn’t feel good in school.
“What you don’t realize is all your answers are wrong. You wrongly assume that because most academics agree with your politically correct dogma, that you are enlightened and educated.”
Lol, so everyone is wrong except you and those who agree with you. We’re all the clergy and the believers of a religion called science and rationality ? Is that what you mean ?
“The fact that he’s fluent in two languages at all is impressive. He understands and absorbs what I write here much better than the vast majority of my native English readers.”
He’s not that fluent, I guess he frequently uses a dictionary instead of deducing the meaning of some words a non-native is not frequently exposed to. In France we learn English irregular verbs in middle school (when Cale says he did well), yet Take/took/taken seem completely unknown to him.
Pumpkin, no need to be intelligent to understand and absorb what you write, you told it yourself, what you do here is more mystical than rational, you don’t pretend to have any scientific authority and anyone can understand and absorb pseudo-scientific fables if they want to. Things get harder when it comes to serious science and that’s when Cale can’t follow anymore.
Pumpkin, no need to be intelligent to understand and absorb what you write,
Then why aren’t you able to do it?
you told it yourself, what you do here is more mystical than rational,
You’re the one preaching creationism: all races were created equal. Rational people outgrow such feel good myths by adulthood.
Things get harder when it comes to serious science
What the hell do you know about serious science? You didn’t even know what a correlation was. Even high school kids have more statistical sophistication.
“Then why aren’t you able to do it?”
I perfectly do understand and I could absorb what you write if I believed in it. But the fact is that I see the many holes and flaws in your theories, I see how far it is from reality, I see how unscientific biased speculation they are. That’s why I can’t agree.
“all races were created equal. Rational people outgrow such feel good myths by adulthood.”
Lol, you definitely don’t understand my point: To begin with races were not created (they were only invented by society), different phenotypes (not genotypes) evolved under different environments and there is no evidence that this resulted in innate behavioral and intellectual difference.
“You didn’t even know what a correlation was.”
True, blame Education Nationale, this notion is not very emphasized in France, probably a little outdated or blurry, like most of the concepts HBDers use.
To date, blacks have not proven themselves to be on equal footing with non-blacks, despite the racial constructs that categorizes the races.
Yes they did, you find black individuals in every field of society, those differences are a matter of proportion, themselves caused by various non biologic factors.
If social status and achievement were a part of the racial phenotype, variation within race would be low, there would not be outliers neither would their be overlapping. Every single black person would be supposed to be poorer than every white person much like they are darker than every white.
Groups have no biologic reality, there are only individuals.
In history also, when the Celts lived in caves, Nubians built pyramids, when Europe was in the age of obscurantism, Timbuktu had a university. As a whole, HBD is historically irrelevant.
My last comment here, because then I will not comment, I will remove this name of my head. I know that you ‘miss me’ ‘. 😉
As Karlin said
Your blog is for ” entertainment ”, understand that the way you want.
I do not have mental illness, such as a certain ” sapiens ” said. On the contrary, for a long time I thought I really had something, and perhaps may have some more exuberant idiosyncrasy that will become more prevalent with the walk of the time. For the rest, I am more rational and normal he, in a hell full of mulatto, black and white idiots, those around me.
pumpkin,
why your blog disappeared from the blogroll of other blogs hbd as the Hbd Chick ??
I was going to ask you this in a little educated comment i was preparing for you, but I thought it would not, yes, I thought on you and I said reflexively
” He does not deserve, or he is not deserving of it ‘
First, the failure to be trying to learn English and no have facility to do it, says little about my ability. I do not have any motivation to learn English. Only when I dedicate myself if that happens one day I can find to myself if I really have problems in this area. For now, I understand that I am not evolving in this language learning, because I don’t want.
Second, the nonsense ever, that you guys should know but do not want to know because we are dealing with over-inflated egos here. The intelligence is multidimensional, is diverse, that is, some are good at it, others are very good at it, some will be very bad about it, etc etc etc.
Scores on IQ tests, sat in at any cognitive test, it is not proving the intelligence, in all its comprehensiveness, from anyone. These tests measure partly the cognition of people. And more contextually, the ability to offer work to the modern social system. The intelligence in its entirety, and based on this contextual perspective, it also needs your intellectual side, so it can be partially understood. This means that not enough to be top 1% in the sat reading. Also important is handling this possible potential (if we are talking about palatable potential) in the real world. From this point that the intelligence acquires an evolutionary perspective. The intelligence without the realism of wisdom or part thereof, becomes just a recreation fo individuals and usefull for the ”system”, worthless for evolution.
All commentators here (or at least those in which I had the opportunity to observe) belong to a common category demographically, I have called cognitively smart. All intelligent people I know also belong to this category, because they are cognitively smart too. True intellectuals are very rare and most of the self-called or recognized as intellectuals, are partly influenced by their cognitions, becoming confuse thinkers.
That’s not a compliment, because you are not wise. Being wise is always looking for the weight, balance, diplomacy, mitigate problems, be rational, empathic and comprehensive in their thinking.
One of the fundamental causes for the failure redundant of the ” white nationalism ”, it is precisely because they voluntarily subject themselves to the role of evil men that Tavistock psychologists predicted.
For those who have read the classic Brave New World, I already made a parallel here.
The outsiders are those who are born different, as ” alphas and betas ” mutants. They who govern, who change the world, for better or for worse. The creators of the cultural left, the one that can change minds or at least modify the course of an entire population. Think of Confucius. Many Jews are like that. Asymmetrical faces, behavioral idiosyncrasies, excessive mental energy, melancholy caused by large capacity of perception, which causes great distress, one Franz Kafka for example.
You guy are mostly like the typical alpha and beta, which are present in this book, a classic of world literature and even was cause for serious studies in prestigious American university. Are the healthiest, proud, neurotipically sociable, cognitively smart, that is, they are better able to offer the job to the system in which they live. Some are geniuses, but most will not.
Intellectual or ‘mutant alphas & bethas’ ‘always criticize, to question, doubt, think of the’ what if … ”. They use their developed self-conscienciousness much more than any other.
You guys do not know what that means because believe in the system where live, are naturally deceived, not only because are predisposed to this flaw, but also because are the ones who benefit most from the system in which you live, especially in a country of the first world.
This is the fundamental difference between most of you and me.
Mental illness…mental illness everywhere
Also melancholy. Excessively cognitive individuals suffer from depression. I can think of Aristotle, who wrote about this, and it is believed that he was also melancholic.
What is the difference between an alpha outlier and a beta outlier? I can only think of the former, as someone who is a genius and a trendsetter, where he becomes popular from his innovations.
How does it feel to be unanimously ranked at the bottom, Santo ? Bad I guess.
Well, at least you’re not called a monkey, a retrograde sub-human or a genetically dysfunctional person based on your race. Now think twice when you play the HBD game, it’s only funny when it’s not played against you…
We forgot about alcoholicwisdom! Probably too late to add him at this point.
Yes, I was kicking myself for forgetting him, though he hasn’t been around in a while so newcomers would have had trouble ranking him. He’s in the BGI study so he’s one of the smartest.
Do you know which test is given to people who want to be part of the BGI study ?
It’s all explained here:
https://www.cog-genomics.org/volunteer
Anyone who believes Santoculto and JS are above average in intelligence has issues.
JS may be doing well in life, but all he does here is obsessionally spreading vicious racism in its dumbest and most delusional form, often making up unrealistic things thinking he can fool reasonably intelligent people with his hallucinations.
Santoculto is dumb and mentally ill, anyone believing he is somewhere close to average intelligence, let alone above, has little consideration for humanity. Come on, do you seriously think that what santoculto shows here is what we must expect from a reasonable adult ? And keep in mind that his life sucks, he’s 26, unemployed or in a very low position, has no college education, frequently talked about his disability in maths and he’s a homosexual in addition to all of that. If his is not IQ below 85, then IQ is a senseless number.
For most HBDers here, I estimate your IQ considering that HBD related topics are what you master the most, and that you have no, or few other domains of expertise. Therefore, what you’re doing here is probably the best of what your brain is able to, yet it’s not bright whatsoever. You’re still being incoherent, irrational, unaware of your bias, willfully ignorant and frequently retorting to primary caveman racism or generalization. You can’t read people, like when we had a child among us just writing pure nonsense and you guys didn’t even notice that person was not functioning with a mature brain. Or when you found relevant to make an analogy between Flynn effect and height with shoes…
You may not like it because I’m the blackest person here, but I definitely am the most intelligent, not by my sky high IQ alone, but by my life which is consistent with it, that could not be said about most of you guys..
RIP Santo.
How are my racist comments, delusional and hallucinogenic?
You may be a successful black outlier, but you don’t speak for most of your co-racialists.
Until I see more black entrepreneurs, black restaurateurs, black technologists, self-employed black professionals, and fewer black athletes, black entertainers, black low skilled workers, and black gov’t employees, I will continue to hold negative views of them. They appear to be incapable of being on equal footing with Whites and East Asians, when it comes to maintaining a functional society, without the help of the more cerebral evolved groups.
Rural Africa is perfectly functional, urban Africa is often more livable than some Latin American cities or Detroit. African poverty is much less demeaning than 1st world poverty.
The overwhelming majority of Africans are contented of what they have and no one cares what you or narrow minded westerners deem functional.
And the brilliant Pumpkin wins again! He conceived a way for everyone to fight each other and cause Jerry Springer-style drama, boosting the ratings for his blog and forever launching his name into infamy…
Pumpkin, only 13 Americans over 25 answered the poll you use in your estimate. That’s freaking irrelevant !
I have not paid much attention to comments people have made yet so I am not familiar with most people here yet. On the Wais 4 I did get 108 but I was staying at a mental hospital at the time (2009). I do consider myself as a sensitive person and sometimes act random which is why I sometimes do not participate with groups of people in the right ways at the beginning. Things happen in my head that seem relevant to me but they seem random to other people. I think I have GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) That is why I think I have problems thinking. At the hospital they diagnosed me with schizoaffective disorder. I take a shot about twice a month. But when they gave me the cogentin for side effects 3 weeks ago I started to feel the anxiety again. So I think it must be something different going on inside me than what they think is happening. At the times when I do not have any bad feelings I can understand things much better. I can hold the variables in my mind without fuzziness.
I once met a person who was 170 (six months ago). He told me I was most likely 118 because I showed him some of the stuff I wrote and had drawn. He asked me if I was eidetic. I said no because when I close my eyes I only see blackness. I remember things without seeing them, even cartoons I use to watch. That is also how I remember abstract concepts that I read. Some people can see fractals enfold into higher dimensions, I can’t but I still know what that is. There are anchor points in the mind from which everything has a relationship to as a projection to everything else. High IQ people can project many reference points at the same time that create webs of association. Not all associations are causative but form the basis of creativity. Some form of stochastic resonance allows High IQ people to hold on to many cognitive constructs all at the same time (memory access / retrieval and manipulation). Genes affect stochastic resonance between brain models and synaptic density metabolism.
pumpkinperson is above 145 (knows math at 3 deviations) and probably older than 39 (2015 – (SAT 1994) + 18).
I like this blog because I can have lots of new ideas to think about.
There are many novel associations and correlations here.
I was mean to you above, but I actually only hope the best for you.
pumpkinperson is above 145 (knows math at 3 deviations) and probably older than 39 (2015 – (SAT 1994) + 18).
I never wrote the SAT at all, let alone the pre-1995 version,. I’m Canadian; we don’t take SATs here or anything similar. In Canada it’s pure Darwinism. Smart people get to the top naturally; not because of doing well on a test.
Pumpkin, I took a tour of McGill University (Montreal’s foremost University), and I noticed the students there were a lot more studious than the American Students, than let’s say, the ones at the Ivy League, Columbia University in NYC. I hardly find any students with their earphones plugged in, while they’re doing their typing on their laptops. It’s no surprise to you that Canadians rank higher than Americans, when it comes to being educated.
“I never wrote the SAT at all, let alone the pre-1995 version,. I’m Canadian; we don’t take SATs here or anything similar. In Canada it’s pure Darwinism. Smart people get to the top naturally; not because of doing well on a test.”
It’s not Darwinism, it’s meritocracy. The SAT is a bad predictor of actual success in college, it provides an unfair advantage to those doing well on those tests though they are not college-ready.
I think American culture has some delusional aspects, from these meaningless standardized tests to the use of lie detectors in courts, they have a kind of childish mentality believing that there exist some magic tricks to penetrate the human brain.
America is strictly a capitalistic nation, with a sole objective of people trying to cash in as much as they can. No other Western Nation, or a nation for that matter, is as money driven as America. Of course, this leads people to do very irrational things that benefit themselves only.
I’m sidetracking this discussion somewhat with this comment. Only in America, where one can become a Pickup Artist, Dating Coach “guru” to teach men to seduce women for sex, and make it a marketplace service. Quite a number individuals have struck gold, when it was popular few years back. Guys who do not know how to relate to women, because in America, many people have unnatural, stunted social interactions, and this includes women as well. This type of phenomenon is completely irrational in most countries, where people are naturally social. Americans are not, because it’s a culture of hyper-competition for money and status.
Afrosapiens do you prefere white or black women ? (For sex)
Hard to say which kind I prefer, I have sex with white women mostly but I prefer watching black porn to white porn.
Afrosapiens do you know your biological parents ?
No
Afrosapiens are you.born in 1992 ?
Yes
Afrosapiens do you have a big black cock ?
Lol, what’s that question ?
My cock is black, I’m well endowed but not huge. Just enough for good painless sex.
What would you do to me if I try to suck it ?
Travis, it would suck to be you if you tried something like that 🙂
LOLwut?
Animekitty, arr you a woman or a man ? How old are yoi ? Why were you in a mental hospital ?
male 27
I went to the mental hospital because I was in a stressful situation with my brother at my moms house. Before that I spent two years in a group home because I did not know what to do after graduation. I took some classes at the university one semester but the basics courses I took required mostly memorization and i could not do it. I got a B in philosophy and a D in history. In Gov we had to write an essay from a book list. I did know what I was supposed to do. I picked a random book about bill clinton but I have no opinion about bill clinton. And in English class we had to learn about pathos ethos and logos but the book we had to read from was not about those things, most people in that class did talk about them but something about the book. Everything was very disconnected from what it was for or supposed to be. So I just quite and did nothing for 18 months. If I knew i was supposed to go to college after graduation I would have studied more. My mom told me that when she went to college my grandmother went with her and took classes together but that she did not have anything that she wanted to do there. She took care of my grandmothers hotel and made the beds and cleaned the rooms. She got divorced when I was 6 and my brother and sister and I watched a lot of tv. She bought a hooked on phonics kit that she had us play with. She wanted to homeschool us but when she moved to the city I started 3rd grade. There I took a test and they put me back a year in 2nd grade. In 5th grade I wrote an essay about science and the selected me to be in a magnet school. So in 6th grade I went to the middle schools library and I read all the books there about A.I. In 11 and 12 grade I was in a computer class but I did not understand how a computer worked but I had ideas about how it could work. What made me depressed after I graduated was that I never finished my project.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-FpDB8lKCGXbEVqcmxIZUUtR2c/view
What were the problems with your brother ? Is your name Jeremy ? What is your life situation now (job,girlfriend,house, city, country….) ? What is your physical appearance ? Can you give me more details about the IQ test you took ?
Hello,
Read this by Dr. James Thompson:
http://drjamesthompson.blogspot.com/2015/09/schizophrenia-and-cognitive-decline.html?spref=tw
I think you would have been a genius if it weren’t for your schio-ness. Again, best of luck.
*schizo-ness
Afrosapiens are you exclusively commenting on this blog ?
Or are you also on other HBD blogs ?
Only on that one currently, but I used to comment and write on Robert Lindsay’s. I’ve also spent time on Unz in the early summer and tried to comment on Jayman’s but he censors a lot. I once had an interesting discussion on Jason Malloy’s blog but I’m only a regular at Pumpkin’s.
Pumpkins blog totally respect free speech even if this kind of freedom could be the result of some darker motives coming from the author of this blog…
JayMan doesn’t censor, he keeps the idiots from spreading their bullshit, like you like to do
…I think Mr. Churchill is correct.
You think wrong.
If you want to contain bullshit, expose it and debunk it. Censorship is the weapon of the weak.
Afrosapiens what kind of music do you frequently listen ?
Afropop
And other West African music styles. I listen to a lot of classic and baroque music as well.
Cale underwhelms me. Someone make a compilation of his greatest comments (a “Greatest Hits”, if you will).
I am writing as I am thinking, there is no interruption in my writing.
What you dont seem to understand is that I am commenting here(like in all I comment in internet by using a pseudonyme) using 10% of my brain, I am not being concentrate at all thats why my comments often appear sloppy, my longest comments didnt make more than 3 minutes to write. Internet is basically a hobby for me.The only thing I am doing while being quite concentrated is online trading, I am making approximatively 1500€ a month (I am 18) without moving my ass out of my room (only for exams or something else than work).
Pumpkin is fascinated by intelligence since he is 12, he is probably now 33 and have an IQ>130, he surely know more about intelligence than anyone else commenting here, and when you understand the true nature of intelligence you are able to recognize truly smart people even when they are making no effort to appear smart.
You can treat your writing and cultivate yourself how much you want, you will only appear smarter to people who have not a precise understanding of intelligence.
The more intelligent you are the more deeply you are understanding theories.There are 34 IQ points between us dude, you think I am below you,Pumpkin have 20 years of reflexion on intelligence and he is probably 15 IQ points (if not more) above you and he thinks I am one of the smartest commenter here, I think after spending a lot of time on this blog you are aware of occams razor ?
I have written this comment in no more than 2min(yes its physiologically possible).
You can say I am a compulsive liar, I dont really care, I am only scanning the comment section of this blog and it is not much of my time. Contrary to you, HBD is not my life, if it was my case I will at least have my own blog…
I am not being emotionnal here, its just a “quick” clarification.
I am not being emotionnal here, its just a “quick” clarification.
Well that’s good…
You are obvioulsy trying to get murder…by chance, I am a very rationnal person.
You don’t happen to be a ghetto thug by chance do you?
Btw concerning IQ, I know a 145 IQ guy (same age as myself) who enjoy watching reality tv shows, intelligence is first of all an ability…which is in second order correlated with some behavioural caracteristics.
I’ve made a compilation of my favorite lines on this blog: my email is maxbowden157@gmail.com, send me your email and I’ll send them to you
My email is marlostanfield37000@gmail.com, I want to know what is the best that people of this blog can write.
Let me take a shot at this, I don’t post or read every post due to time constraints.
I’ll throw in some of the other hbd bloggers since I haven’t read enough posts by so called regulars.
Also since this thread is mostly a guise to bash other posters
Along with a few sentences on the rating.
Steve hsu (160+) – The man’s cv speaks for him, bachelor’s from caltech at age of 19, PhD at 24, 3 patents, multiple big money startups. Plenty of prestigious positions.
Rhazib Khan (150) – Probably knows more about genetics than any other person in the HBD sphere
Ron Unz (140) – Great programmer you can often judge a mans intelligence based on the quality of his code
, BS physics from Harvard, clearly smart enough to get a physics PHD from a top school despite not completing it.
Steve sailer (140) – Probably the #1 HBD blog, consistently good posts.
Afrosapiens (120) – I would put afro at 140 due to accomplishments but then knock off 20 iq points,
20 iq points are based on med school acceptance scores gap between blacks and whites.
Blacks can get accepted with a 20 iq points less.
Lionoftheblogosphere (125) – Not very strong mathematically (Most of his posts do not have numbers)
or technologically but has extremely high verbal ability and logical reasoning skills.
Pumpkin person (135) – Very good reasoning skills, Quality posts, decent mathematical ability.
Panda@War (130) – This is clearly someone’s sock puppet. Since it only seems to posts regarding east asian
intelligence and ignores everything else. Very strong logic and always comes armed with facts and studies.
Makes a very strong case that east asians are the real deal and that the last 500 years were just a fluke
One of the few people who notices that the lack of east asian nobel prizes is because Nobel prize winners
are typically 50 years old so due to the development gap if east asians are indeed the real deal you won’t
see nobel prize wins till the year 2035-2050.
Robert Lindsay (130) – Many insightful posts, good mastery of the english language,
has done impressive work in lingusitics despite not being a ivory tower academic. Clearly has the
ability to do very well in math despite his claims of lacking mathematical ability. Despite his lack
of mathematical training has mathematical intuition, while he may not be able to do the math he has enough intuition
to read studies and correctly interpret it.
Jorge Videla/Mugabe/duke of leinster/First Ypres Either 140 (if his so called accomplsihments are indeed true)
Otherwise (105) since most of his posts are nothing but off topic derailment, personal attacks combined with
poor english usage. Possibly mentally ill.
Judah-sphere (120) Enjoyable well written posts.
JS (105) Idiot white nationalist that spews nothing but irrational hate,
all of his posts revolve around hating Asians and Jews. Tends to ignore blacks.
Debates primarily using stormfront and spouts outdated myths
such as the Whites have higher SD’s than East Asians. Never quotes studies and ignores
everything that goes against his worldview.
Santoculto (110) Numerous Pointless posts, extremely poor usage of language.
Tends to ramble endlessly without providing a coherent train of thought.
Swank (110) Completely Mathematically illiterate, Has no understanding of how the following
mathematical concepts work with each other median,mean,probability,distribution,linear regression,
standard deviation, what really happens when you square a number, legal terms such as probable cause.
Completely ignores arguments, doesn’t believe in HBD despite the massive mountain of evidence.
Thinks that Terence Tao + his 2 brothers all being IMO participants is because of environmental
magic. The mathematical probability of being a IMO participant just completely flies over his head.
If studies/real life events/historical events that support the idea of HBD vs studies vs disproving HBD and they
were representated by white balls vs black balls. It would look something a olympic sized swimming pool full of balls
supporting HBD with only 4-5 black balls in the pool.
To Swank anything that supports HBD either doesn’t have enough of a sample size, poor controls, was effected by racism
,was effected by confounding factors or the scientists doing it were racist.
Swank meanwhile throts out the same 5 black balls over and over again and declares them as perfect experiments.
1. Study of IQ with black soldiers WW2 + interracial german children
2. Some random iq study in US showing blacks had same iqs as whites (even though the sample size was 20
and the person administering it was not qualified to give iq tests)
3. MZ DZ twins
4. Vocabulary correlates higher with IQ than ravens!
5. (New black ball for swank) Blacks do better in the UK!
Animekitty (don’t know this person)
Blayze (don’t know this person)
bucephalus (don’t know this person)
Cale (don’t know this person)
Carl Churchill (don’t know this person)
fallingsnow (don’t know this person)
grey enlightenment (don’t know this person)
Any thoughts on Cochran, JayMan, HBD chick, Misdreavous and kevin MacDonald?
Unfortunately I have not read enough posts/or looked at real world accomplishments for those authors.
The only one I am familiar with is Jayman who seems to be 130-140, but I don’t feel comfortable putting anyone without verifiable real world accomplishments at 140 or higher. I am unfamiliar with what his background is other than being black. But his blog is definitely first rate.
The 4 people I gave 140+ to all are extremely accomplished and 3 of them even have wikipedia pages.
Another note, on JS the few times he does post on blacks is to mention how much white woman desire black men. Another idea that is popular amongst storm front types.
Good sign a person has a low IQ (whether black or white)— they think the majority of white women crave black cock (some do of course, not all 🙂
“misdreavous”
Statistical data often means nothing to those who have an agenda, regardless of IQ levels. Human beings are flawed, and humans would rather process cognitive thoughts easily, based on personal anecdotal evidence than some comprehensive study. Online dating stats show that White women show a larger bias towards black men, than let’s say East Asian men or Indian men. However, there are East Asian men who defend their title, by saying that there are more White women who date yellow men than black men, just basing on their personal observations.
And I never said all white women, but many white women wouldn’t mind dating a black guy. I see an overrepresentation of the small percentage of black men at the college campuses, who date white women, and the underrepresentation of the large percentage of East Asian men, with the same phenomenon. In fact, black men and white women are the most prevalent interracial association, at the college campuses, given their small numbers, when comparing to the huge population of White and asian male students.
And this would suggest what Jayman was saying, that smarter black men are in fact de facto selected mates for white women. The same cannot be said of East Asian men and to a certain degree White men, who are generally smarter than black men.
“20 iq points are based on med school acceptance scores gap between blacks and whites.”
1- I did law school
2- I’m not American, I come from France where affirmative action does not exist and would be illegal by principle.
I’m not American, I come from France where affirmative action does not exist and would be illegal by principle
So what percentage of the students at your elite law school were black?
Afrosapiens KO by pp
At all,
I don’t have any official statistics but I can tell blacks were slightly over represented compared to the general population.
But there are two factors that would make an estimate blurry.
1- There are no official racial statistics in France though I guess blacks are somewhere around 5% of the population.
2- Many Blacks at elite schools are not French but African
3- Black is not a well defined category in France, there is a clear distinction between Africans and Caribbeans and there are further national and ethnic categorizations within both groups. There is nothing like the Black French community.
Anyway, the guy has no reason accounting for affirmative action when he estimates my IQ.
Although even two standard deviations above the mean is really not enough to understand the concepts I discuss on this blog
I’m surprised that amidst all of this bickering that no one’s LOL’ed at this statement. I mean, were mostly discussing basic statistical concepts here, not quantum theory or Lie groups.
You’d be surprised by how many brilliant people can not understand basic statistical concepts. My heritability test is a perfect example. It’s been viewed by thousands of people with math SAT scores above 700, and still only a single person has passed it (though one other person should have passed but made trivial errors).
Interesting…even the psychologist Daniel Kahneman has noted that Phd statisticians often can’t apply basic statistical outside the context of their day to day work.
*statistical concepts…dammit can’t type
My ranking:
Afrosapiens
Swank
I didnt know all the commenters but I know that a lot are belew average as Afrosapiens said…its clearly a sign of stupidity to believe in racialist theories in 2015, its proven that we are all equal, intelligence is neither define by brain size or by genes only a retarded person could believe this. Intelligence is determine by will and education.
Pumpkin are you some kind of troll ? bcz sometimes the stupidity of your articles is truly astonishing…
I am just around to read afrosapiens arguments btw
Excuse my english
I would add that the author of this blog is also a coward who supress comments
You’re a coward.
Lion, did you leave your laptop to a kindergartner, Lion ?
“You’re a coward.”
Wow thats the caliber of people posting here ? …truly depressing.
He started the name-calling.
Madam ! Its him who begin insulting me !!!! 😢😢😢😢😢
And IQ tests were created to detect retarded people, not smart ones. IQ is only useful to detect mental retardation….
the results might be biased because people who have succeeded in education and tests could have more motivation to answer such a poll. Also up to today I have never understood why at this blog it is often assumed that a subset of the population with a IQ mean which is not 100 (say, 129) has the same standard deviation (15) like the whole population. Thats not how a Gaussian distribution works like I think.
Assuming that the subset of population is the result of some kind of cut-off effect at the left tail of the general population, and further assuming that there is no such cut-off at the right tail of the population I would guess the distribution for the subset is not even gaussian, let alone a Gaussian distribution with a sd of 15.
Erik Sieven, don’t expect to read things that really make sense on that blog.
True. You post here. 🙂
Funny, anyway, Erik’s comment was for you.
Also up to today I have never understood why at this blog it is often assumed that a subset of the population with a IQ mean which is not 100 (say, 129) has the same standard deviation (15) like the whole population. Thats not how a Gaussian distribution works like I think.
Assuming that the subset of population is the result of some kind of cut-off effect at the left tail of the general population, and further assuming that there is no such cut-off at the right tail of the population I would guess the distribution for the subset is not even gaussian, let alone a Gaussian distribution with a sd of 15
It depends how the subset of the population is selected. If they’re explicitly selected based on an IQ test, and said IQ test is then used to determine their IQs, you would indeed have a very non-Gaussian distribution with a smaller SD.
However if they’re selected based on traits that are correlated with IQ, then it is said traits that will become non-Gaussian and homogeneous, and not necessarily the IQ distribution, unless one of said traits has an IQ threshold effect.
Pumpkin I have an idea, you should make a survey with all the regular commenters and people would vote for the smartest ! You remember wisdom of the crowds !
You should also post your own ranking because now everyone have done
My cock is black, I’m well endowed but not huge. Just enough for good painless sex
Hard to say which kind I prefer, I have sex with white women mostly but I prefer watching black porn to white porn.
I have always find the lack of modesty of black people very impressive. Don’t be surprise to be treated like animals everywhere in the world if you behave like them.
Not that I like defending Afrosapiens, but it was the commenter “Travis” who started the discussion regarding Afro’s genitals.
I’m kinda surprised Pumpkin didn’t censor that, given his distaste for vulgarity.
Not surprising, given the inferiority complexes that blacks have suffered. They have a lot of issues relating from self hate to White racism, all stemming from their lack of ability, besides the usual non-important things they are good at, that have no real significance in the greater scheme of things.
Afro Sapiens, however doesn’t speak for most blacks in terms of his success. Also, he is working under the supervision of White people.
Travis is obviously a troll while Afrosapiens is being serious here.
Afro Sapiens, however doesn’t speak for most blacks in terms of his success. Also, he is working under the supervision of White people.
Yes, but contrary to his supposedly high success, Afrosapiens behaviour betrays his racial origins.
I think I’ve read enough to do an estimate (with additional more recent commenter Ruhkuhka)
Tiers:
1. Cale 135+
2. Pumpkin, Chartreuse & aliases, Lion, Bucephalus, Swank, 125+
3. Afrosapiens, Grey Enlightenment, Panda@war, Ruhkukah, 120+
3. Churchill 115+
4.JS, Santoculto 107+
6. Animekitty 100+
Total average = 119.21 (this may be a slight understatement, as my estimates are intended to be minimums)
Standard Deviation = 9.22
My methodology, if you will, was to weight at .5 the following characteristic:
1. vocabulary and mathematical fluency (mostly objective, though I am not good enough at math to have a very high rating ceiling for this, so I’m slightly biased towards verbal abilities)
And to weight each of the following at .25:
2. my subjective interpretation of the value of their comments. I gave less weight for pumpkin’s writing because he has an unfair advantage of being the blogger.
3. their political extremism, with either extreme bringing down the total score. This is my personal view but is also supported by a preponderance of research. This is especially true for white conservative extremists.
What would be interesting pumpkin, would be to take the average of all these estimates, though of course we won’t know how accurate it is.
I see that lion has a confirmed wais IQ of 120, but considering his SAT scores, perhaps his general cognitive ability is significantly higher.
As an african american, his performance could be depressed on an official IQ test, which supposedly measures raw ability, but not on an alleged test of “achievement” like the SAT, due to stereotype threat. I would be curious to know what lion thinks of this hypothesis.
I took the wais 4 last November. It put me at 113. I almost blacked out the last 15 minute so I missed some questions. Pumpkin person has my raw scores but is keeping her/his opinion secret. 🙂
There is a gap of 46 points between Verbal and Processing Speed and a gap of 26 between Perceptual Reasoning and Working Memory. Verbal and Perceptual are the high ends.The other end is why I don’t Math good.
IQ is an important topic. IQ is destiny to quote Pumpkin Person. The word destiny means destination. Fate means the destination is preordained(known before hand). Fate has been scientifically disproved with quantum physics. You cannot prove where the wave collapse will happen thus the many worlds interpretation. Although the precognitive dreams I have had make fate seem more plausible to me. I like to entertain ideas until I realize they don’t work. Some people who have IQs around 125-130 who are theosophists and conspiracy theorists think Jesus was not a real person. I think I am smarter than they are. My General Ability is 130. I now know why time of birth is important in astrology. From the center of the earth to the surface of the earth where you are born points to a star in the sky. This is how the magi calculated the birth of Jesus. He was not born on the 25th of December and we do not know which star he was under or the time of day/night he was born. But it was significant to the magi. Priest have access to ancient knowledge. It has been known that the earth is round for thousands of years. If they could predict eclipses why not the birth of Jesus. Jesus had an IQ of 170. Spiritual wisdom is a gift.
Animekitty, your general ability measured by what?
Animekitty, your general ability measured by what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wechsler_Adult_Intelligence_Scale
I add my scores to wiki template.
There are four index scores representing major components of intelligence:
Verbal Comprehension Index (VCI) – 132
Perceptual Reasoning Index (PRI) – 121
Working Memory Index (WMI) – 95
Processing Speed Index (PSI) – 86
Two broad scores are also generated, which can be used to summarize general intellectual abilities:
Full Scale IQ (FSIQ) – 113, based on the total combined performance of the VCI, PRI, WMI, and PSI
General Ability Index (GAI) – 130, based only on the six subtests that the VCI and PRI comprise.
Subtests are not averaged together((132 + 121) / 2 = 26.5). Raw scores are factorized. so it is 130 not 26.5
nvm animekitty, I see that you specified wais. That must be a pretty unusual cognitive profile.
ruhkukah and Lion of the Judah-sphere are the same person, just to clarify 🙂
Oh, well I’m afraid my extremely scientific tests show that you’ve gotten dumber 😉
My mistake. Anyway, what do you think?
The SD for a mean of 129 is not the same for the SD of 100 which is 15. By finding the SD for 129 as the mean, it is possible to covert a commenters IQ with a mean of 100 into the IQ of a mean 129.
AK
129 / 100 = 1.29
1.29 * 15 SD = 19.35
129 – 113 = 16
16 / 19.35 = 0.826 SD bellow the mean 129
0.826 * 15 SD = 12.403
100 – 12.403 = 87.596
Animekitty is 87 or the 19th percentile of commenters.
PP
129 / 100 = 1.29
1.29 * 15 SD = 19.35
136 – 129 = 7
7 / 19.35 = 0.361 SD above the mean 129
0.361 * 15 SD = 5.426
100 + 5.426 = 105.426
Pumpkin Person is 105 or the 63rd percentile of commenters.
The difference between AK and PP is 1.2 SD apart on his blog.
105 – 87 = 18
12.12 = 2^(18 / 5)
PP solves problems 12 times faster than AK on this blog.
Using real IQ tests PP solves problems 24 times faster than AK. (1.6 SD apart)
136 – 113 = 23
24.25 = 2^(23 / 5)