As I’ve argued before, there are at least three major elites who control America: The popular (those who win hearts), the intelligentsia (those who win minds), and the rich (those who win wallets). These are three fairly orthogonal forms of power.
In this post, I will focus on the popular: the most worshiped people in America.
In 2005, millions of Americans voted for the greatest American of all time. Of the 100 Americans nominated by the public, only these had enough worshipers to make the top 25:
1. Ronald Reagan
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Martin Luther King, Jr.
4. George Washington
5. Benjamin Franklin
6. George W. Bush
7. Bill Clinton
8. Elvis Presley
9. Oprah Winfrey
10. Franklin D. Roosevelt
11. Billy Graham
12. Thomas Jefferson
13. Walt Disney
14. Albert Einstein
15. Thomas Edison
16. John F. Kennedy
17. Bob Hope
18. Bill Gates
19. Eleanor Roosevelt
20. Lance Armstrong
21. Muhammad Ali
22. Rosa Parks
23. Orville & Wilbur Wright
24. Henry Ford
25. Neil Armstrong
A few observations:
Oprah is the only woman to make the top 18 most worshiped Americans. Oprah’s super-human brain size arguably gave her the smarts to become not only the richest African American of all time, but the most worshiped woman in the history of the World’s sole superpower, and by extension, the most powerful woman on the planet.
The IQs of the most worshiped Americans seem to range from about 70 (Elvis) to perhaps 170 (Bill Gates), suggesting the average IQ is about 120.
While an IQ of 120 is quite impressive compared to the U.S. mean of 97, it’s not especially high for the most worshiped Americans of all time. If we assume these people are about 5.4 standard deviations above the mean in a normalized distribution of popularity, and yet they’re only about 1.5 SD above the mean in IQ, it suggests the correlation between IQ and popularity is only 1.5/5.4 = 0.28.
Bill Gates more or less had to buy his way on the list which is kind of sad. If he hadn’t given so much of his own money to charity, I doubt he would be among the most popular Americans. This demonstrates how one form of power (money) can be traded for another (popularity), and how Bill Gates is still the class nerd trying to extra hard to fit in with the cool kids.
Blacks are over-represented. Despite being 13% of America, they are 16% of the most worshiped 25. If we limited the analysis to only the most worshiped living Americans, their over-representation would be even greater, and this despite the fact that blacks average lower IQs than other Americans. I suspect this is related to scholar J.P. Rushton’s theory that blacks evolved to reproduce prolifically: The the same traits that make blacks good at attracting mates (charisma, athletic talent, musical talent, social IQ, etc) also makes them good at attracting fame. I even suggested this to the great Rushton himself and he thought it was quite clever. Blacks may also get an extra boost in popularity from the pro-diversity media.
Although blacks are over-represented among popular elites, they are dramatically underrepresented in the two other major elite groups: The Rich and the Intelligentsia. Despite being 13% of America, blacks are only 0.25% of the 400 richest Americans, and only 2% of the most influential media pundits. So despite having a lot of popular power (including president Obama), overall blacks are still quite powerless in America.
Jews show the opposite profile. Despite being 2% of America, they are 36% of the 400 richest Americans and an astonishing 50% of the most influential media pundits (the intelligentsia). Yet when it comes to popular elites, their over-representation is much less extreme. There are very few Jews among the 25 most worshiped Americans of all time. There are likely two reasons for this:
1) Becoming popular is less dependent on IQ than becoming rich or becoming part of the intelligentsia, so high IQ Jews have less of an advantage when competing for raw celebrity status.
2) Jews probably don’t want to be in positions of visible power because it creates resentment; they prefer to let gentiles be the public face of power, while they wield influence through money and intellectual ideas. This may help explain why despite their enormous cultural and economic capital, and despite all their talents and gifts, there has never been a Jewish president.
Jews don’t show exactly the opposite profile of Blacks. It would be the case if they were 50% of the 400 richest Americans and 36% of the most influential members of the intelligentsia.
May be the relatively high verbal IQ of Jews and Blacks explain partly why they are more numerous in the intelligentsia than in the rich ? Can you do the same thing for US East Asians to see if they are more representated in the richest than in the intelligentsia ? Making money seems to be less the result of verbal intelligence that manipulate minds, and even more nowedays.
Elvis Presley’s IQ is may be quite low but not as low as 70, it was tested in school, it doesn’t sounds really reliable.
This may help explain why despite their enormous cultural and economic capital, and despite all their talents and gifts, there has never been a Jewish president.
Yes, and also because Americans need to identifie themselves to the president, and if he is Jew, only 2% of the US population would really do so.
East Asians are about 3.62% of America, but only 2% of the super rich (Forbes 400). They are too small a percentages of the super intelligentsia and of the super popular to even calculate.
Despite the popular image of East Asians as successful minorities, they are actually under-represented among all three major power groups in America. Indeed among the 100 Americans popular enough to be nominated for the Greatest American list, not a single East Asian appears:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_American
A more current measure of popularity is Gallup’s most admired list. The only East Asians who appear are foreigners. Not single Asian American is widely admired by his his or her fellow citizens in the U.S.:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1678/most-admired-man-woman.aspx
With respect to the Intelligentsia, the only Asian to rank among the 50 most influential pundits is a South Asian. Not a single East Asian:
http://isteve.blogspot.ca/2009/09/demographics-of-top-50-pundits.html
It seems racial discrimination, combined with a lack of verbal IQ, poor English skills, low testosterone and low psychopathy (ruthlessness) is preventing East Asian Americans from acquiring real power, especially in the form of popularity and intelligentsia influence.
Thanks for answering.
By the way, do you know any studies on jewish testosterone ? and also psychopathy (because the idea that Jews are more psychopathic than Whites gentiles seems largely accepted in HBD sphere, I also think it might be the case) ?
I know of no studies on Jewish psychopathy or testosterone. Do HBDers consider Jews more psychopathic? I know HBDers like LOTB have argued that Jews are both the least ethnocentric & the least sociopathic of any group, citing the fact that they suffer from guilt.
Famous HBDers Michael Hart & Stephen Pinker are also extremely critical of the idea that Jews exhibit bad behaviour
High IQ groups are probably less psychopathic on average. On the other hand, Jews like gypsies, had a nomadic life style which may have uniquely selected for parasitic behaviour because they’re dependent on other societies, but there’s just no strong evidence either way as far as i know, and prominent HBDers I cited reject such ideas as antisemetic
All the HBDers you have cited are jewish.
And celebrities, in general tend to be careful on what they say about Jews, I was especially talking about anonymous people who are commenting HBD blogs.
And when I mean psychopathic, I mean more psychopathic in average than high IQ races(non jewish Whites and East Asians).
@PP – You analysed this well (Sailer-esque!) – but these polls are garbage data – often they cue people with lists of suggestions, or else the media do (in Britain when they did one there were posters up in cities suggesting John Lennon, who would otherwise never have crossed anyone’s mind as being the ‘greatest’ Briton – it is just ridiculous!) – and the samples are grossly unrepresentative (what kind of person votes in these polls?!)
Non-scientific polls can always be criticized, but this particular poll seemed to correlate well with the most admired man & woman scientific poll conducted by prestigious Gallup, the same year, which is entirely open ended (no pre-selected list)
But even if i ignore this poll & focus on Gallup’s poll, the same pattern emerges: blacks are overrepresented among the most popular americans & Jews are not as overrepresented as they are among other elites (i.e. the rich & the intelligentsia)
every black on the list except one is there because of civil rights; even Ali was just another boxer until he took a stand on Vietnam. It’s not charisma (although watching this continual misapprehension of likely r-traits is amusing), it’s virtue. and then we notice a dearth of east asians and jews.
even Ali was just another boxer until he took a stand on Vietnam
Ali had made his name long before taking a stand on Vietnam.
David Suzuki, geneticist, pundit and environmental activist, actually finished fifth on a CBC poll for Greatest Canadian. He sparred with your hero Philip Rushton on live TV in 1989 so I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that you probably don’t care too much for him. My feeling is that you Canadians are more accepting of East Asians-don’t forget that Pearl Harbor, Vietnam War, and Japanese auto competition in the 80s and 90s have had a negative effect on the popularity of East Asians stateside. As far as wealth, there are plenty of Asians who are billionaires or close to it in America-they just haven’t been here long enough to grow their wealth to the same extent as other groups. Most Asians in the US came here after the 70s. Interestingly, the NY Times did a story a few years back on the growing phenomenon of Asian Americans in philanthropy-which says something about their budding wealth. Since you are Canadian, you might be surprised to know that one of the most generous donors to U. British Columbia was Chinese. He built the symphony hall there. And one of Canada’s richest, billionaire Michael Chin, is half Jamaican and half Chinese.
Oh, that last comment was @PP per his response to Cale. PP, probably most on the lisy deserve to be there but any poll, as a popularity contest, has to be taken with a grain of salt. Many people who have a profound impact on history because they win hearts aren’t even known to most, because the national media doesn’t christen them. Like Philip Veracruz, a forceful advocate for the poor who started the farmworkers movement in California and whose work had a lasting impact on labor laws well beyond the agricultural sector.
No way Elvis just had an IQ of 70. Not that his music is particularly complex, but nothing about him indicates 70 IQ intelligence…maybe 90 at the lowest.
Jews may not do well among popular elites according to your tabulations, but many prominent Jews do well in a wide array of popular entertainment. From low-brow comedy (Adam Sandler) to R&B music (drug-addled Amy Winehouse) to middle-brow comedy (Jerry Seinfeld, Woody Allen) to ownership of major music and movie production studios (David Geffen, and Samuel Goldwyn and Louis B. Mayer) to acting (Scarlett Johansson (part-Jewish) Natalie Portman, Harrison Ford (part-Jewish) and Shia Lebouf) to cheesy 70s rock (Gene Simmons) to radio talk show hosts (Michael Savage, Mark Levin) to greatest film producer of the past half-century (Steven Spielberg). And I could go on.
It’s amazing none of them have made the lists of most loved elites.
I think jews on average have greater creativity but without character and or complete wisdom, is completely useless, period.
Actually lion of judistan most people find it harder to create good music, than to do calculus or write a compelling story in my experience.
That said, I don’t think Elvis wrote most of his music.
Nonetheless, he was musically gifted enough to interpret what was written for sure. The difference between 2 high level pianists playing the exact same formal piece of classical music can be amazing. He was also a very good singer and instrumentalist.
Also good musicians always benefit from being very good looking as opposed to other forms of intelligence in my opinion. I believe types of intelligence are related to looks, but that’s just my intuition. Musicians are better looking than many verbals, and far better looking than quants. So while they might not make money in this technological climate, they will still get laid a lot, which I presume is a worthy trade off.
I haven’t met enough visual artists or entrepreneurs to complete my intelligence type-looks hierarchy.
Marc Bolan was perhaps the only Jewish entertainer in the Anglo Prole World, with a flair for style.
Most Jews have an unattractive cornball image.
Also Bob Dylan, Lou Reed and the bassist from Kiss who is apparently up there with Mick Jagger in the amount of women he’s had. Some great producers too like Phil Spektor, who was a character. And of course, the great Rick Rubin who has an amazing oeuvre of musical work.
My take on jews in music is that they tend to immediately hone in on more technical but less emotional genres like jazz or orchestral classical music. Their musical achievements vs their proportion of the population is actually very strong when one takes into account their presence in these more esoteric genres.
Lou Reed and the Beastie Boys are also pretty foundational to rock and rap.
Jews are technical, when it comes to music, especially rock music?
I know of no Jews in the realm of Jimi Hendrix (who is black), or the legions of White gentiles, who are great guitarists. Jews make great promoters of music, because of their verbal IQ, but not so much great musicians with virtuosity.
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Regarding Oprah, some blacks would disagree strongly with Pumpkin’s assessment about her fame and wealth.
To them, Oprah is basically a stooge for the White power structure and oppression. She sets an example as being heavy set, single, wealthy with no heirs.
This is supposed to be the consummate success for black women everywhere?
It’s a suicidal image.
First of all there is no white power structure, there’s a Jewish power structure. Blacks who complain about the white power structure are just tools for the Jewish power structure, although blacks benefit from that structure.
If you want to set the tone that Jews control America, then yes, they are the tools or victims of the Jewish power structure. It depends on the black person being asked, if they benefit from it. I assume most do not, given black america’s overall grievance with the status quo.
In the U.S., yes.
But in Europe?
Are the Hungarians ordering the building a wall against refugees Jews concerned against antisemitism?
Is Merkel, in bringing them in, controlled by the Jews.
Are there even that many Jews in Canada?
I do have to say the Jews in Canada are lot nicer.
Money totally corrupts people, and so does American culture, which is Hollywood.
This being said, America is the only place to grow money on trees.