The wildly popular Robert Lindsay has posted Dylann Roof’s manifesto. Roof does not appear to be a White nationalist because he considers East Asians to be a superior race and he considers Jews to be white. White nationalists have been breathing a sigh of relief that this evil terrorist is not one of them.
I’d hate to agree with such evil scum as Dylann Roof, but Jews are White, although they do have certain genetic diseases that distinguish them from other Whites, and the IQ gap between Whites (IQ 99) and Ashkenazi Jews (IQ 110) is larger than the IQ gap between Whites and Arabs (Arab IQ is probably 90 with First World nutrition), and IQ is arguably the most important genetic trait, so I’m not sure where you draw the line between White and non-White. Jews don’t just have much higher intelligence than other Whites, it’s a different kind of intelligence from any other humans on Earth; some combination of verbal IQ, social IQ, business IQ, and insightful creativity. They are absolutely brilliant at creating social movements on both the political left and right. In fact commenter Mugabe has argued that the very framing of left and right is Jewish.
In fact it’s almost impossible to have a social movement without a Jewish person brilliantly gravitating to the top of it and radically improving it in some way with some new abstract theory. I even see this in the HBD-o-sphere and the alt-right blogosphere (areas where you would not expect Jews to be). The latest example is Rachel Haywire who has been challenging alt-righters to radically change the way they think and gentiles have been following her ideas in droves, and not because they worship Jews (they don’t), but because Jews just come up with theories that change the way we think. They are almost like magical beings. While other races create concrete things, Jews create abstract theories, ideologies, ways of seeing the world differently. They invent the intellectual framework, the verbal categories.
It seems Jews endured an incredible amount of natural selection in the last 1000 years or so, enough to raise their IQs some 15 points above the white-middle eastern hybrids they’re descended from, and create this very unique kind of intelligence. That much evolution in such a short span of time is unimaginable.
In some ways Jews are so unique one could almost argue there are only two human races: Jews and non-Jews. And then the non-Jewish race could be divided into 3 subraces: Negroids, Caucasoids and Mongoloids.
There’s different kinds of White Nationalist. Dylann Roof may not have hated Jews but he didn’t agree with their ideology. The layman is still gonna group him in with White nationalists, whether he technically is or not.
Jews have had an intellectual dominance over the past 200 years that’s been unmistakeable and pervasive throughout all fields of human thought. While critics of Jews tend to focus on their predominance in fields of social thought (which has been very conspicuous), Jews also make up the highest ranks of the harder sciences too, making their intellectual dominance indisputable. And Jews have not only dominated intellectual fields, but also less intellectual ones like comedy, acting, and music (the Jewish predominance in comedy is well known, but it’s probably less obvious in the latter fields, but still pervasive).
Fortunately for anti-Semitic HBDers, some of the fields related to their school of thought, like evolutionary biology and behavioral genetics, have mostly been dominated by Anglos. Richard Dawkins, W.D. Hamilton, Robert Trivers, and E.O. Wilson have all been from Anglo backgrounds. There’s a few dominant Jews in evolutionary psychology like Steven Pinker, but Jews in biological sciences seem to go the route of Stephen Jay Gould: trickery, lying, and obfuscation. Unfortunate, really.
Speaking of Jews, what do you think of the future of high caste Indians? I know you’ve discussed this already on this blog, but I think this is a really important topic. I think they might be the next Jews!
It’s odd but Brahmins will inherit the future if the world goes to shit.
1. They have the “genes of thrift” that allow them to survive through famine (hence the high rates of diabetes).
2. They can settle anywhere in the world unlike whites due to their melanin content.
3. They have a strong sense of family that keeps them from assimilating, unlike the Jews.
4. They keep reproducing, unlike the Jews, Chinese and whites.
Looking at Bollywood, one can’t help but compare it to Broadway with the singing and dancing. Both are controlled entirely by high verbal IQ social groups.
There hasn’t been much research on high caste indians so we don’t know whether they’re just indians who happen to be smart & successful or whether they evolved into a new group genetically distinct from other Indians (analogous to Jewish evolution in Europe & the Middle East )
But regardless, i doubt they will achieve great wealth & power in the US, because they look too different from the white population so will inspire resentment. By contrast the Jewish phenotype blends in to the white phenotype, so most people can’t even tell who is Jewish . This is a huge advantage
Ashkenazi Jews have an unusual ability profile as well as higher than average IQ. They
have high verbal and mathematical scores, while their visuospatial abilities are typically
somewhat lower, by about one half a standard deviation, than the European average
(Levinson, 1977; Levinson and Block, 1977). Han Eysenck (Eysenck, 1995) noted “The
correlation between verbal and performance tests is about 0.77 in the general population,
but only 0.31 among Jewish children. Differences of 10-20 points have been found in
samples of Jewish children; there is no other group that shows anything like this size
difference.” The Ashkenazi pattern of success is what one would expect from this ability
distribution-great success in mathematics and literature, more typical results in
representational painting, sculpture, and architecture
http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/004083.html
“It seems Jews endured an incredible amount of natural selection”
“Jewish intelligence is also unique in its loading on verbal IQ versus performance IQ. Though Jews have an average intelligence of 115, they have verbal skills closer to an average 125.6, with a more normal performance IQ closer to 100. This is highly unusual as most races usually have about equal verbal and performance IQs. This fact seems to indicate that the “Jews are a self-selected minority group, and their high intelligence is the result of self selection, not natural selection,” according to Howard Metzenberg.”
“Jews are a self-selected minority group, and their high intelligence is the result of self selection, not natural selection.”
Perhaps more research?
Yes, they were self selected to become dependent of White civilization and to profit from it. As I said, Jews cannot build civilizations, similar to blacks, who also have a lower spatial IQs, and are also disliked by others, and are parasitical.
Panda hates to say I disagree with many of above statements. let’s see:
1. As I briefly commented here (http://www.unz.com/akarlin/national-wealth-and-iq/), unless one presents some decent proof that 1 verbal IQ = 1 spatial IQ, it would take a quantum leap of thoughts to claim that Ashkenazis have the highest IQ of all “races”. Logically it’s like to claim that since my orange is bigger than yours while my kiwi is smaller, therefore my orange+kiwi has more juices than yours. Ridiculous?
2. If Jews can be categorised as a race at levels of , or even beyond (such as Jew/ noo-Jew), Mongoloid, Negloid and Caucasoid, with barely 20 something million population ( in which again separate Ashkenazi Jews and else), on what evidences you forcefully assume that East Asians are just a single identical mono race and can not be futher divided 2 or multiple times whatsoever? Why 200 million Japanese, 70 million Koreans, and 1.3 billion Chinese , or 1 biliion strong Han Chinese, any of them are multiple times than Jews, are measured like the single same robot with average IQ of 105? So Jews can be divided, then sub-divided again to choose the “winner” to compare with the rest of humanity, while the big 3 major races can not? Are the hypocrisy and double-standard here just off the charts, or is it just Panda?
3. No one should underestimate the extraordinary intellectual contributions of Ashkenazis in the last 200 years , particularly the last 100 years, largely in social sciences and politics (pls don’t Panda the crap of counting # of some Nobel science prizes, what you’re from kindergarden? see Panda’s quick refutation here: http://www.unz.com/akarlin/national-wealth-and-iq/ ), but excuse me, where were Ashkenazis during the single biggest human technological advance in the last 500 years – the Industrial Revolution??? – the competition where the non-Jewish Europeans absolutely monopolised.
And where were Ashkenazi between 2,000 BC to 300 BC, and from 300BC to 1600AD when the Han Chinese were at very top of technological game??? This brings to another topic:
4. Yes, it seems that “That much evolution in such a short span of time is unimaginable”(PumpkinP), and “Jews are a self-selected minority group, and their high intelligence is the result of self selection, not natural selection.”. But why it is unimaginable?
Mother Nature plays with you, and you don’t play around with Mother Nature. Every each race, and sub-races, and sub-sub-races (e.g. the Ashkenazis) in human history, have all been faced with natural pressure for survival, from the Eskimos in Canada to the untouchables in India to the Ainus in Japan to the Sichuanese in Western China… many of sub-sub races suffered WAY MORE prosecutions than Jews did in the last 1000 years, WHY only the IQ of Jews has risen while others no? Every one has been facing both nature selection and self-selection too, all the time, why only Jews? Isn’t “only Jews can” merely a self-fulfilling explanation as it is? hmmmmmm…
Plus, if one agrees that the IQ has been made by mother nature (which is logical), then any “self-made”(i.e. personally I am intrigued: how?) IQ becomes unsustainable temporary in theory, whenever the very pressure that made them smarter in the very beginning disappears or partially relieved. Like Marathon, no one can keep running forever. Ashkenazi suffering some special brain diseases is exactly a proof of above: such a thing is like a warning by mother nature telling you “hey stop doing so playing round with your brain in unnatural way, else a disaster could happen to it”, isn’t it? if it is so, we’d expect the Ashkenazis’ verbal IQ would drop in time ( btw is it also called the law of “Mean Reversion” to their aboriginal sub-race mean? or any law disappears whenever dealing with the Askenazis? ) in order to cope with their brains’ normal physical survival – In order to gain some, one must loss some – no free lunch, or “smarty shortcut”, whatsoever, in Mother Nature at the end of the day, Panda included. ROFL
Well, the benefit was a higher verbal intelligence. The price seems to be mental stability, after all, the depressed Jewish male is not just a stereotype.
In the end, the harmful mutations are outweighed by all the beneficial mutations that made Jews smarter. At most, 16% of the population has those harmful mutations. Not only that, their high IQ allowed them to multiply from 800 in 1200AD to several million by 1900 despite living in a very hostile environment.
Very hostile environment create by them… Like today.
2. If Jews can be categorised as a race at levels of , or even beyond (such as Jew/ noo-Jew), Mongoloid, Negloid and Caucasoid, with barely 20 something million population ( in which again separate Ashkenazi Jews and else), on what evidences you forcefully assume that East Asians are just a single identical mono race and can not be futher divided 2 or multiple times whatsoever? Why 200 million Japanese, 70 million Koreans, and 1.3 billion Chinese , or 1 biliion strong Han Chinese, any of them are multiple times than Jews, are measured like the single same robot with average IQ of 105? So Jews can be divided, then sub-divided again to choose the “winner” to compare with the rest of humanity, while the big 3 major races can not? Are the hypocrisy and double-standard here just off the charts, or is it just Panda?
Not sure. Basically if a population is more phenotypically similar to another population than it is to a third population, then the first 2 populations are one race and the third population is a second race.
It has nothing to do with the size of the populations. It’s just basic sorting
Ashkenazi skin color is light so they’re probably white, but then their intelligence is so high & so unique that they might have evolved into a new race even though they were originally of white & middle eastern stock
Of course it’s not all about the sizes of population, but I still haven’t seen any solid evidences putting forward indicating that East Asians are phenotypically more similar to themselves than Ashekenazis to Euroepans, and arguments using such evidences to justify the Ashkenazi Jews ( a part of Jews) is a major race on the level of Caucaoid, Negloid and Mongoloid.
If what you explained is true, can forensics scientists nowadays tell which blood, bone, tooth, hair, etc is of Jews or Ashkenazis Jew exclusively? as they can tell clearly which is which from Caucaoid, Negloid and Mongoloid. And why not?
The very concept of “Ashkenazi” is becoming sort of a joke nowadays , particualrly when asked about who are Ashkenazis, and who are not in Israel, many even don’t know what are the “criteria” other than “I think”, “I believe”, etc subjective recognition.
i give you a hair , can you tell me it is from Ashkenzai or Sephardic or other Jews?
“Basically if a population is more phenotypically similar to another population than it is to a third population, then the first 2 populations are one race and the third population is a second race.”
So you believe race is a social construct. You love grouping on phenotype, when genotype matters.
https://whyteablog.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/cladistics-of-human-peoples/
Are the ashkenazi jews really that inbred, isnt it more like cultural thing. Many Ashkenazi jews nowdays seems to have at least a bit non-jewish blood or are from mixed-marriage and jews are pretty diverse looking – so isnt it more like a culture than “race”
Jews is a combo of transcendental way of survive, by talmud + ”shemite” demographic nucleous. Their heterozigosis and autoimune diseases can be explained by combo inbred marriage patterns and anomalous lateralization wich explain quasi-all jewish behavioural predispositions like homossexuality rates, lefthandedness, psychopathy, giftedness, etc!! 😉 Less alcoholic. Alcohol-vulnerable jews was des-selected.
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“Speaking of Jews, what do you think of the future of high caste Indians?” (Lion of the Judah-sphere)
Who are “high caste Indians” indeed ethnically ?
A. they are “Indians”?
B. they are “Aryans”?
C. they are Pesians, Arabs, Turks, or the combi of any mix of them?
D. They are Marsians?
If A, “high caste Indians” will go back to Indian mena IQ of 82 in generations, for details referring to Steve Hsu
If B, “Aryans’ had avg IQ of 100 max at a time, most likely significantly below that, Panda assumes? So “high caste Indians” will go back to this level of IQ
If C. “high caste Indians” will go back to about middle Eastern average in time, that of today’s Iran or Turkey. – this is Panda’s pick btw.
If D. “high caste Indians” avg IQ will shoot up to 500+ extraterrestrial avg IQ very quickly.
If one assumes that
i) the “high caste” does exist, ( btw Panda & my fellows must be ultra high high cates if were in India, right? LoL), and
ii) that the “high caste Indians” will not race-mix with others for the forseeable future,
then since they’re mostly self-selected immigrants, their avg IQ will go back to their native ethnic mean, which is about 85 plus or menus, within generations.
No, the thing is that the Brahmins in India do have more control in government posts and industry than one expects. There are bright non-Brahmins out there but less than expected based on proportion.
It’s not a matter of just family connections–lack of family connections never stopped Jews from doing well. Relying on family connections alone is impossible.
For that reason, the Brahmins in America won’t regress to 85.
Not only that, the Parsis came as priests to India and absolutely dominated despite their small numbers. So it is possible that IQ for Indians in America will not regress to 85.
Juan-direction: Pls kindly answer my questions, instead of secretly changing the topic and subjects :
1. Are Indians in the US all, or majority of them, “Indian high castes” ? (No “low castes”?)
2. . Indian Americans avg IQ =110, or Indian “high caste” Americans avg IQ = 110? simples? or Brahmins Americans avg IQ = 110?
3. “Indian high caste” = , and only =, “Brahmins”? yes, or no? Simples?
4. IF yes, who are “Indian high caste” ETHNICALLY, you gotta choose from above A, B, C or D, right? which one?
5. Who are Brahmins ETHNICALLY? They originally gotta came from somwwhere on Earth right? assuming they are not extraterrestrials, but where? Sorry, but they were not from India originally. Could you do Panda a favour by telling me where?
See? 5 small questions to get it straight, simples!
What you don’t do, however, is to make both a circular and a logically meaningless statement that “A is B because B is A, therefore Parrsis avg IQ won’t go below than 85.” What are you talking about?
First, this event was a false flag event made by their BRILIANT psychopaths, the ashkeNAZIS. A false flag as well the marathon Boston and Sandy Hook school event to manipulate murricans, especially white murricans, to leave their pet guns with authorities AND to agigate blacks and whites to future racial war. Other interesting observation: J-E-W-I-SCHE yellow exhotic and exogen media dispise completely violence against whites but also against other people’s made by thug blacks but when event, SUPPOSED event, ”happen” ( white violence against blacks), chosen retards ones create a circus. By what??? To inculcate inside the average white murrican minds that they won’t never can react. No personal protection and ultimate psychological captulation.
Second, this post start talking about false flag event and finish talking about ”brilliant” intelligence of ashkeNAZIS. What’s your point PP??
Anyone think is little supiscious and interesting that ”they” just begin ‘give’ intelectual achievements since citizenship emancipation during Napoleon era???
I don’t deny different kind of intelligence of ashkeNAZIS but i think they aren’t super smart but the ”gentiles” who on average are very disappointed in intelectual terms. Is not, ”they are super smart”, humanity is overestimate, is right to say ”the gentiles who aren’t decently smart”.
Humanity is completely overestimated starting the fact that the most adaptative and naturalistic smart human variety, are a psychopathic population.
For us, gentiles are animals.
1 goyim life=1 dog life
we are the choosen people, #norage
Jews are parasites that need to be f##ked.
None of you guys have proven any worthiness or usefulness to this world. You are all dependent of gentiles!
Psychopaths are actually the furthest from God, it’s why they are psychopaths. Anyone who has had a transcendental experience knows this, when one is one with God one is empathy to all there exists.
Judaism isn’t a religion like that of Christianity or Islam. It’s a cultural entity, not a religious one. Christians often spoke about Jews not keeping their word of faith, and Muslims disliked Jews more than Christians. It’s no coincidence that Christians and Muslims have said more negative things about Jews than about each other.
Further, the “Judeo-Christian” alliance, is only a recent thing that happened after the Holocaust. Before that, Christians always disliked Jews.
JS
Almost ayone in what you call a self-actualizing career is a parasite
I think you’re jealous that Jews are smart enough to acquire great wealth & power. They have turned the situation around to their advantage- the ability to adapt as my chemistry teacher defined intelligence
Jews may not be known for many practical inventions,but working in self actualizing careers they have given us all the theoretical inventions: libertarianism, Marxism, left vs right, prole vs swpl…the list goes on & on
Lol Jews only invented the shits that you fucking ape are using everyday but we still are useless, what a joke.
Without us, you would be stuck in the early XXth century…
But I have to admit that we are treating you like slaves(what you are).
Now can you please go back work for your jewish boss ?
They acquire great power, because Whites allow them to acquire great power. Throw a bunch of Jews out into the open, and see how powerful they will become.
The whole idea of Israel was to demonstrate their worthiness in a desert frontier, so they can stop being parasites. Today, Israel still dependent of American aid. Also, it is not a very attractive country in terms of architecture, because Jews have lower visual IQs than other higher IQ groups.
Nevertheless, Israelis are a notch above your typical Ashkenazim living in Europe or America, who just live off the system.
JS, Jewish intelligence evolved in society while White & East Asian intelligence evolved in nature, so Jews are better at adapting society to their advantage while Whites & East Asians are better at adapting nature to their advantage (i.e. starting from scratch vs working within the system)
It’s hard to say which is superior but Jewish intelligence is highly rewarded by IQ tests, academia & society
Pumpkin person, the price of high verbal intelligence is mental stability. Mentally unstable Jews made Jews overall a target in Germany. Even today, Jews stick out as crackpot idealists more than practical business owners.
I would argue India is held back by high verbal IQ Brahmins, too crackpot to see the practical benefits of universal education and decent living standards for everyone.
On the other hand, a high nonverbal iq society seems to be the model Jewish communists would love–relatively little income inequality, lots of innovation, and strong working culture, like China, Korea and Japan.
Jews are the Nietzschean Master race. Gentiles are the Slave race.
One way one can tell that Gentiles are the Slave race is that they are utterly incapable of creating their own ideologies. All of their religions and philosophies of life–Christianity, Marxism, Objecivism, etc–were created by Jews.
Some here bristle that Jews don’t create practical value. Of course not! That’s the job of the slaves. The Masters must be free–as in all of history–from practical burdens to create intellectual accomplishments, which Jews have done greatly.
Here’s how society is structured.
Masters (Jews)
House Niggers (Whites, East Asians)
Field Niggers (Mexicans, Blacks, etc.)
Whites and East Asians offer a different kind of labor for their masters, but they are not the masters. They’re just a better kind of slave.
The Masters must be free–as in all of history–from practical burdens to create intellectual accomplishments, which Jews have done greatly.
Well, wait till the Gentiles turn on the Jew parasites again, like they did in Nazi Germany. Push comes to shove, it will not be a nice thing.
And if Jews pissed off the East Asians, they might find a common ground with European Gentiles, and that’s when the small Jew parasite minority will be doomed.
Pumpkin, you’re an idiot, you and your IQ fetish and the Ashkenazim worship.
These guys to date have not produced anything worthy on their own. They just live off the White society. Whites can go into many frontiers and build things and start from scratch. It’s not every easy for the Jews. Further, European Old World, today, do not have much Jewish influence. Some of the European elites are like you, they like Jews, but they have no power in Europe, never did, only maybe in pre-Nazi Germany. And Europe is a much better place than any superficial capitalism world with Jewish influence like America.
JS,
Now you’re merely engaging in puerile revenge fantasies.
Americans, for instance, are highly content in their slavery. Some feel bad about it, on occasion, but a knowledgeable Jewish psychiatrist can always give them some mood-enhancing drugs to deal with it.
I don’t wish to see you suffer. I promise that we’ve figured out how to make Gentiles “whistle while they work,” and we’re rolling it out as rapidly as possible.
Also, there will be no revolt. I’d sooner expect cattle to attack ranchers for being made into beefsteaks.
White nationalism has nothing to do with considering other races as superior or inferior; that’s white supremacy. Jared Taylor considers Jews to be “white,” and he’s probably the most prominent WN there is. Roof was a WN.
Nope, White nationalism have as most important goal, take from invasors, the power and restablish a ”old” order where globalism kaballah no have Place. Wn just want their nations again.
The supremacy ideology is a part, sometimes very important, to the movement. Just read WHITE NATIONALISM words.The new zionism but without blatant jewish hypocrisy and cruelty.
The problem is that wn is not very intelectual Bright.
The supremacy ideology is a part, sometimes very important, to the movement.
‘2. Q. Do White Nationalists feel they are superior to other races?
A. No. The desire of White Nationalists to form their own nation has nothing to do with superiority or inferiority.’
http://www.whitenationalism.com/wn/wn-06.htm
WN can also be WS, though.
Further, there are many different strains of WN. The most mainstream WN considers Jews to be white, so an individual believing jews are white in no way means he isn’t a WN.
Are you the village idiot? One man doesn’t speak for the entire WN movement?
You said he wasn’t a WN because he considered another race to be inferior and because he considered jews to be white. Neither of those forecloses his membership in the set WN. And because a mainstream WN holds the same opinion, it really doesn’t impact the likelihood either. So shh…
There’s nothing uniquely white national about him. LOTB said he agrees with 90% of the manifesto & LOTB doesn’t like white nationalists
All peoples feel superior one each other, the broken mirror genes, is the human norm. For wn, on average, today, feel superior is the last important thing to think.
White liberals feel they aren’t superior to anything. It explain the desolated passivity of this group.
The real ‘sacred’ book of ”jews”, called Talmud, was made by psychopaths. Christianism is a doctrine where people love and prey for the son of god, a jewish?? This god is jewish too???
I have the same doubt: Pump is just ignorant and stupid with real geopolitics or he is conivent??? Famous people tend to be like that, popularity is more important than truth and/or scientific rigor.
Yes, Pumpkin and many of his East Asian readers, do not want to hear the truths, only wanting to become popular and believe that high IQ is everything.
Time after time, we have demonstrated that high IQ doesn’t signify anything of worthiness, when one observes the behavior and achievements of Ashkenazim, and to a certain extent, the East Asians.
JS,
sometimes i think ”iq” is being used to ”prove” supposed superiority of both groups when the most realist scenario is a more equality or parity among them.
Yes, and actually East Asians have more usefulness to the world than Ashkenazim, who are mostly parasitic in nature. East Asians are not as intelligent as Ashkenazim.
It’s funny, I’ve come across a lot of Ashkenazim, and they cannot make a simple meal. They are dependent of restaurants and prepared food from the outside. What good is high IQ, if one cannot achieve this basic mode of survival. Of course, this is not really funny, given their parasitic nature which causes harm to others.
Lol goyim have a practical intelligence but when it come to understand concepts they are lost.
It’s like Jews are born to be in higher social classes.
Netanothing – You and some of the commentators here observe superficial things. Jews are parasites, and not producers of anything great.
Pumpkin talking about self actualization? Why doesn’t Lion talk about becoming a top restaurant owner, or a top computer maker, or a top craftsman, as self actualization? He doesn’t, because Jews don’t look for tangibles to become happy or great. This is not their forte or strength.
Well, generally ‘smart’ people avoid ”physical” jobs. Bibi is right about the fact that ashkenazis are modeled ON ape-ish human societies, the best liars assholes will be the ”winners”. But, if human sub-races want evolved without primitivism will need put ashkenazis idiotics primitive-atavics into the mental health quarentenne.
“East Asians are not as intelligent as Ashkenazim” ===>
this is so typical of Ashkenazi-controlled world media & “academic” propaganda would have successfully made you believe.
My question is simple: where is the evidence?
Don’t give Panda “evidences” that counting the # of Nobel Laureates, # of hollywooders or bankers, or political campaign financiers, or # of chess grand masters … alike. These very subjective “evidences” that have been often cited by guys like Murry or Harpending do not even pass a laugh test. No wonder the world by and large is being conned.
East Asians are not as intelligent as Ashkenazim
They control Hollywood that makes fun of Asians, they invented Communism for Russia & China, and they were part of the A-bomb project that killed Japanese. East Asians haven’t done anything to challenge their power in anyway.
His wanting to preserve white blood, protect the white race, and “take back the country” was “uniquely WN” about him.
You’ve just described half the Republican Party . That’s not unique to white nationalism
No, I didn’t describe “half” the GOP. Most whites in the GOP approve of mixed-race marriages, which alone takes them firmly out of the WN camp. And, I wouldn’t be surprised that a segment of the GOP would also be WN anyway.
Most whites in the GOP approve of mixed-race marriages,
No they don’t; people lie in opinion polls. And John McCain lost the republican nomination in 2000 because he adopted a non-white baby
which alone takes them firmly out of the WN camp
No it doesn’
Actually mainstream republicans are more racist than white nationalists. President Obama is far more popular among white nationalists than among republicans believe it or not
No they don’t; people lie in opinion polls.
You don’t have any better evidence.
John McCain lost the nomination because of several mean-spirited accusations against him.
No it doesn’t
Oh do WNs now approve of miscegenation?
And we aren’t wrong.
Lol, THEY aren’t wrong, i’m not even decanted white.
”white race” is like the most bullyned nerd boy in the school. Only the real friends continue with him.
WN are right in that a population must be organized as a nation. Liberals are right that the myths that give rise to nationhood are arbitrary and that self-actualization is an essential component of living in society.
WN are wrong because there’s nothing special about ‘race’ as an organizing principle (or at least race as defined now); liberals are wrong because that something is arbitrary does not mean it is useless.
I know what mixed race cause, decanted eurasian sub-races aren’t the best, but mixed race nations without any Strong selection for ”intelligence” and real empathy is really disastrious.
Can you give me an example of mixed race nation with selection for intelligence ?
No have, what i’m explaining. Mixed sub races are naturally unstable because their higher combination diversity.
Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore.
Correcting: primitive caucasian ( 😉 ) ashkenazis are modeled to be the rulers in primitive ”social” societies because they are atavic ones. In my blog, a commenter said ashkenazist cognitive profile is perfect to urban regions, higher verbal, lower spatial. Yep, civilizations are castle of lies, objectivity of natural world was substituted by subjectivity of artificial urban world and subjectivity correlates with manipulation, verbal capacity, those who dominate word meanings.
“Roof does not appear to be a White nationalist because he considers East Asians to be a superior race and he considers Jews to be white.”
He doesn’t consider E Asians to be superior to whites, and you can be a white nationalist and still consider Jews white. Also, his first name has two Ns.
I corrected the spelling error. There’s no evidence he’s a white nationalist and his views on Jewish whiteness is evidence to the contrary.
Why do you keep saying that Roof’s argument for Jews being white means he’s not a white nationalist? Jared Taylor is pro-Jew and is even married to a Jewish woman. And he regards them as white. So Jared Taylor isn’t a white nationalist?
Read the Wikipedia article on White Nationalist (not that that is the last word on the topic).
Judah-sphere, your own namesake LOTB is always saying that only white nationalists deny Jews are white, so it seems like a pretty defining characteristic of the movement
Not everything Mr. Blogosphere says is true, as brilliant as he is. As I already mentioned, Jared Taylor has fought to bring in Jews to the White Nationalist fold and a coterie of Jews attend the American Renaissance every year (which, as I am sure you know, is the biggest gathering of White Nationalists in the world).
He may have fought to bring in Jews but in 2006 their leading Jewish participant stormed out after the leader of the movement made an antisemetic speech
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RELmEPUy6lQ
Jews cannot become WNs. They have no country of their own, where they originated. It is simple as that. Most American Jews are not Israelis.
Jared Taylor, prominent mainstream WN, does not “speak for the entire WN movement” but LoTB, a relatively obscure HBD blogger, does.
I only mentioned LOTB because Judah-Sphere loves him so i assumed he might trust his analysis of how WN’s think
But both LOTB & Jared Taylor are relatively obscure compared to David Duke & i doubt Duke considers Jews white
“Jewish intelligence evolved in society while White & East Asian intelligence evolved in nature, so Jews are better at adapting society to their advantage while Whites & East Asians are better at adapting nature to their advantage (i.e. starting from scratch vs working within the system)
It’s hard to say which is superior but Jewish intelligence is highly rewarded by IQ tests, academia & society( PumpkinP)
Agreed that it’s hard to say which is superior.
Jewish intelligence, however, is highly valued by only half of the IQ test ( their spatial IQ is quite low actually), and PC-controlled academia & society.
More importantly, conceptually speaking, Panda thinks that ideas are simples and primitve. Anyone, from a mad guy to a dreaming sheep, all can have ideas, wild ideas, world-leading ideas… and they can make their idea popular around the world by whatever means.
(another imporant topic here: the most vocal, the most popular, are tend to be, contrary to the conventional belief, less intelligent indeed. The slient majority, the 1.5 bililon east Asians for example, are silient and much less vocal, yet that doesn’t neccesarily mean thay are stupider or having “less verbal IQ”.
Actually any organism has ideas, even potatos or trees have ideas, too – that is to grow towards the direction of the sun and where there’s more nutrition.
Without proper judgement, unfetted ideas can easily turn the humanity and the world into insane chaos.
Ideas worth nothing, when compared to the ability to analise facts, judge facts, and how to turn controlled ideas into realities – the making of technologies.
The universe is not about ideas, but about realities.
Lol but Jews are also better at solving problems and they are better at mathematics than Asians, that’s a fact. They are better at abstract reasoning, in other words they have higher g.
Spatial intelligence is only uselful to understand a system which is in the space but when it come to more abstracts systems, there is nobody. So the Jews>because they can adapt to more situations. For example spatial IQ is useless when we are at a very high level like theoric physics and mathematics because the systems studied in these fields are so complex that nobody can imagine the thing as she really is.
If you don’t understand this explaination your IQ<135 and it would be useless to argue more with you.
“Lol but Jews are also better at solving problems and they are better at mathematics than Asians, that’s a fact.”
Kindly indicate that are you retadred or a liar, or both?
Lol, no arguments as expected.
Can you give one important yellow mathematician ?
Of course no, so can you please go back to your subaltern job and stop talking about concepts you don’t even understand ?
Or better, ”jews” may be good to solve problems but they are masters to cause problems, 😉
Netanyahou & your shitty racist penpal Gentiles are Untermenchen ( or you are the same person):
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You don’t present arguments. You present so-called “evidences” marketed as snakeoil “facts”, swallowed by most euros without being allowed questioning or else.
Your arguments are so twisted that you somehow are totally consumed by your own wild dreams. With your minor IQ you think, or you racist scums claim to “think”, that you can somehow con the world at large as sheeple, while We Esat Asians take you as what you really are. We are the silent majority.
Go sell your scumbag-alike neolibertarianism, Marxism, and neocon evil bulllocks marketed as “ideas” that you are so proud of with your verbal manipulation somewhere else in another planet please, and let the real master race/s of the humans to build the decent and prosperious human civilisations we have been building for the entire recoded human history, while at the same time you useless lot were being reduced as a small group of homeless beggars throughout your part of world in a fair competitive fight for survival, no that different form the Gypsies for the most part of the history. What you created throughout centries? Next to ZERO!
Yet you’re thick enough to talk me about civilisation? rofl. … as if you lot had a faint clue of what human civilisasion and true intelligence are. You lot have shown world next to ZERO triait of knowing what technological civilisations with decent morality and spirit were, are and ought to be. Whatever you collectively have brought to the world by your snakeoil salesmanship were by and large lies, manipulations, wars, chaos, cheat, mad-dog fanatic ideas, cruel, and evil. The only and tiny state of Israel you lot has “created” in the entire history of mankind was even a recent feel-good gift creation by your British Master. How “proud” you feel about that achievement, huh? Talk me about IQ and how “master race” you are? You don’t know what is called irony, do you?
@Netanyahou
There’s plenty of evidence that East Asians are better in math than Jews
http://www.vdare.com/articles/derbyshire-on-race-and-the-international-math-olympiad
That’s the other big takeaway from the IMO results. Of the three participants who got the maximum 42-point score, two are Chinese. Of the 49 gold medal winners, 31 are East Asian and 18 are white European.
Down at the other end, of the 17 participants scoring no points at all, one is West Asian, two are Indios (that is, Latin American aboriginal), and the other 14 are black African.
White males 254
White females 34
East Asian males 114
East Asian females 6
West Asian males 37
West Asian females 6
Black males 34
Black females 7
South Asian males 28
South Asian females 1
Mestizo males 25
Mestizo females 2
Indio males 9
Austronesian males 3
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Now lets look at another high level math competition
A quick look shows that most of the winners are of East Asian descent particularly chinese descent keep in mind that chinese are only around 3% of the USA compared to 50%+ for whites
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Another high level competition
http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/applications/china-embarrasses-us-in-nsa-hacking-contest-15144/
But the winner of the algorithm competition was an 18-year-old student from China, Bin Jin, who went by the handle “crazyb0y”. Chinese programmers have a history of doing very well in this contest.
Of the participants in the contest, more than 57 percent had bachelor’s degrees, most in computer science, and of that 20 percent had earned a masters degree, and 6 percent a PhD.
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So what about top mathematicians?
The two closest modern day mathematicians that could be said to be on the levels of Gauss, Euler and Von Neumann are both east asian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao
http://www.smh.com.au/good-weekend/terence-tao-the-mozart-of-maths-20150306-13fwcv.html
Shinichi Mochizuki
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-500-page-proof-offers-a-new-univers-if-only-mathematicians-could-understand-i
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East Asians only started winning competitions like Putnam and IMO around 10 years ago so you would need to wait 20 more years before they start producing their best works.
If you look at Putnam + IMO you will see a history of poor performance by east asian countries when they were poor
Even countries like North Korea beat well developed white countries like Germany with massive populations and resources in the IMO
https://www.imo-official.org/country_team_r.aspx?code=PRK
And if you look at most “immigration countries” most of the team is east asian despite east asians being 1-3% of the population
https://www.imo-official.org/team_r.aspx?code=USA&year=2014
USA team 4/6 members are east asian
https://www.imo-official.org/team_r.aspx?code=CAN&year=2014
Canada team 4/6 members are east asian
https://www.imo-official.org/team_r.aspx?code=UNK&year=2014
UK team 3/6 members are east asian
https://www.imo-official.org/team_r.aspx?code=AUS&year=2014
Australia team 3/6 members are east asian
https://www.imo-official.org/team_r.aspx?code=NZL&year=2014
New Zealand 4/6 members are east asian
@Netanyahou
Lol…I have done with the stupid hysteric chinese kid, he is just an east asian version of JS who come up with the same stupid arguments of civilisation while Jews are 100 times less numerous than East Asians and are a largely newer human population.
Godslayer, for the mathematicians, Asians are largely more numerous than Jews and they are second race in the intelligence hierarchy so it’s not surprising that they at least have the greater mathematicians….wait, actually that’s not even true lol there is a gap between Michoziku and Von Neumann but the actual only “actual” great mathematician who can pretend to stand at the level of the names you have cited is Pereleman and…. he is Jew !
And the results you come up with aren’t worthy because Jews are 100 times less numerous than East Asians and they aren’t even represented as a group in your studies 😀 and btw,Jews are hardworker but less than Asians and they prefer studying things which brings money and power at an individual level while Asians do maths for maths without any other purpose. They like to train themselves at useless things like stupid super brain competition which doesn’t worth anything because they are trained as hell.
You have to stop denying the reality guys, even if she hurt 😉
Mochizuki* lol that’s not like make a mistake in Von Neumann’s name…
@Netanyahou
>wait, actually that’s not even true lol there is a gap between Michoziku and Von Neumann but the actual only “actual” great mathematician who can pretend to stand at the level of the names you have cited is Pereleman and…. he is Jew
Perelman is nowhere near Tao and Mochizuki
The reason why what he did was not impressive because he shared the fields with 2 other people who did the bulk of the proof.
The reason he turned down the Fields medal, this combined with the fact that he didn’t develop any mathematical tools, Richard Hamilton invented Ricci Flow and theorized that it could be used to finish Poincaré.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20561-500000-for-mathematician-who-laid-poincare-groundwork.html#.VYpYxPlVhBc
>”He developed this theory of Ricci flow pretty much from scratch,” says Jim Carlson, president of the Clay Mathematics Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts. “Very early on he had this beautiful idea of what kind of equation could govern the change of a shape. He proceeded to prove a whole series of fantastic results.”
He is a one hit wonder and a flash in the pan.
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Now lets compare Mochizuki to him, in comparison Mochizuki invented multiple new mathematical tools, solved multiple “unsolvable” problems using them and his work is so complicated that NO OTHER MATHEMATICIAN ON THE PLANET can understand it other than him
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26753-mathematicians-anger-over-his-unread-500page-proof.html#.VYpZ-vlVhBc
If nobody understands a mathematical proof, does it count? Shinichi Mochizuki of Kyoto University, Japan, has tried to prove the ABC conjecture, a long-standing pure maths problem, but now says fellow mathematicians are failing to get to grips with his work.
The nature of his problem is also much more difficult and revolutionary than Perelman.
I would say that even Yiting Zhang another East Asian mathematician is better than Perelman, having solved a more difficult problem and doing it all from scratch.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/02/pursuit-beauty
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As for you saying the IMO is useless
You clearly have no background in the IMO
Even your Jew Hero Perelman participated in it
https://www.imo-official.org/participant_r.aspx?id=10481
The key point is that the IMO has an age limit and performing well in it requires an individual to have mastered all the base mathematical tools that someone with a PHD in math would have while also having a much more widespread knowledge about different branches of mathematics.
All of these problems are trick questions rather than “knowledge questions”
It is said that in 1988 (Australia), during problem selection, one of the problems was so hard that several of the top number theorists in Australia failed to solve it. However, they put it on the exam anyway, and multiple IMO contestants received a perfect score on that problem.
This is explained in detail in the book “Art of Problem Solving” by Terence Tao
If you follow the mathematical careers of notable IMO contestants you will see that most of them tend to transition into top researchers
It is also extremely competitive, only a team of 6 is sent to the Olympiads with a very narrow age limit of 20!
The “recruiting” field for IMO math is even larger than professional sports such as Football and Basketball since almost everybody attends highschool and takes math classes.
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As for your claims of “Jew mathematical superiority” you have not a shred of evidence and have fallen back on “ITS NOT FAIR THEY WORK HARDER!!” and “THEY HAVE A LARGER POPULATION!!”
If Jew mathematical superiority is so superior then they should be dominating math at the highest levels despite numerical disadvantages. A good example are non east asians non white countries have yet to turn out topmen despite numerical advantages.
If Jews were good at math then they should be heading into STEM instead of doing Social Science/Law/Finance/Art/Media
Even IQ tests show that Jews were mostly average except they have extremely high verbal IQ’s which pulls them up to a 110 average
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence
“So, genes for cognitive traits such as verbal and mathematical talent, which make a person successful in the few fields where Jews could work, were favored; genes for irrelevant traits, such as spatio-visual abilities, were supported by less selective pressure than in the general population.”
“25% of Fields Medal winners,[4] 25% of ACM Turing Award winners”
Stop denying this is ridiculous.
“If Jew mathematical superiority is so superior then they should be dominating math at the highest levels despite numerical disadvantages. A good example are non east asians non white countries have yet to turn out topmen despite numerical advantages.”
LOL SERIOUSLY ?!
This one of the dumbest things you have ever wrote. China have the biggest population in the world and others East Asian countries also have huge population, idiot. Jews are 16 million all around the world.
What is your IQ ? 200?
“If Jews were good at math then they should be heading into STEM instead of doing Social Science/Law/Finance/Art/Media”
Already explained that and we can do the inverse reasonning by saying that East Asians study in these field because they sucks at verbal ability.
“Even IQ tests show that Jews were mostly average except they have extremely high verbal IQ’s which pulls them up to a 110 average”
Evidences ? lol and you are lying now, Jews do well on the arithmetic part of IQ tests, they only sucks at spatial(sucks mean 100 IQ) and the 110 average it’s not even confirmed, some other studies put jewish average higher.
“Perelman is nowhere near Tao and Mochizuki”
I don’t know what to answer to that, it’s even dumber that the population nonsense you have previously made.
Come up with real evidences or just shut the fuck up.
@Netanyahou
>“25% of Fields Medal winners,[4] 25% of ACM Turing Award winners”
Stormfront fallacy, I love how you left this part out
>winners have either full or partial Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry
So what is the Stormfront fallacy? It is using the one drop rule to determine Jewish ancestry.
In addition “awards” are not very indicative of anything since they are largely handed out based on OPINION and POLITICAL reasons. The Fields medal in particular is more likely to be given to mathematicians nearing the age limit and for political reasons. Overall most of these “Awards” are popularity contests. Jews are also known for Nepotism. And Jews control the media.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_controversies
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>This one of the dumbest things you have ever wrote. China have the biggest population in the world and others East Asian countries also have huge population, idiot. Jews are 16 million all around the world.
Most of China’s population is rural and/or too old to work/uneducated
46% of the population of Norway has a bachelors degree or better for china only 2%! have a bachelors degree or better.
A country like the USA has roughly 5 times more college grads than China.
Scale it up to the PHD level
China has very few PHD programs compared to other countries
Once again population means very little because a large population doesn’t translate into a high number of people that are doing research
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>Already explained that and we can do the inverse reasonning by saying that East Asians study in these field because they sucks at verbal ability.
If they could do it, they would instead they chase after fields that don’t require much intelligence and being successful in said fields are about Nepotism that don’t produce wealth, rather they siphon wealth from value creators by working as lawyers and bankers.
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>Evidences ? lol and you are lying now, Jews do well on the arithmetic part of IQ tests, they only sucks at spatial(sucks mean 100 IQ) and the 110 average it’s not even confirmed, some other studies put jewish average higher.
Among those who have discussed this question, there is a
general consensus on two points. First, that Jews have a higher average IQ
than gentile whites (this term is used for non-Jewish whites). Second, that Jews
are stronger on verbal ability than on visualization and visual-spatial
ability. Beyond this, there is a considerable range of conclusions. A review by
MacDonald (1994,p.190) concludes that “taken together, the data suggest a mean IQ
in the 117 range for Ashkenazi Jewish children, with a verbal IQ in the range
of 125 and a performance IQ in the average range”
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>I don’t know what to answer to that, it’s even dumber that the population nonsense you have previously made.
Lets compare Perelman to Michizuki
Perelman
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1. Shared fields medal with 2 other people! The other 2 did 95% of the work already in proving the conjecture!
2. DID NOT CREATE any new mathematical tools!
3. Richard Hamilton claimed that the poincare conjecture could be solved by the RICCI FLOW
4. Perelman uses RICCI FLOW to solve the poincare conjecture
5. A billion news articles show up about Perelman solving the poincare with no mention of the 2 people who did 95% of the work or Richard Hamilton!
6. Perelman refuses to accept the award saying that “He didn’t want to be treated like an animal in the zoo” and that “Richard Hamilton deserves it more than me i basically did nothing”, News papers articles pop up everywhere mentioning only the first part of animal in the zoo with no mention of hamilton
7. Retired from Math
Mochizuki
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1. Developed a new field of mathematics that essentially “broke” the fourth wall of mathematics
>Mathematicians speak of a “brick wall” in mathematical reasoning that has thwarted previous attempts to solve ABC. “Before Mochizuki came along, this problem was viewed as utterly, hopelessly intractable and out of reach, like an out-of-the-solar-system kind of situation,” says Lagarias. In that light, any supposed proof was bound to be greeted with some doubt.
>Another source of skepticism is the potential expansiveness of Mochizuki’s accomplishment. It has long been understood by mathematicians that any proof of ABC would have the effect of simultaneously proving four other theorems (the work of Roth, Baker, Faltings, and Wiles) that stand among the most celebrated achievements in math in the last half-century. If Mochizuki has found a way to subsume those monumental results into a single formula, his work would take its place alongside equations like Einstein’s E=mc2 and the inequality behind Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle
2. His groundbreaking discovery is 500 pages long compared to Wiles Fermats last theorem proof of 150 pages
3. His papers have been studied by the mathematics community and no math errors have been found, yet after 2 years NOT A SINGLE MATHEMATICIAN is capable of understanding it (In comparison it took mathematicians 2 years to confirm Wiles proof) as far as I know this has NEVER happened before in the mathematics community.
4. He used this new field of mathematics to solve 3 “unsolvable” problems and used it to confirm a large number of solved problems using a new method
This is typical of Jews being overrated, a Jew does something trivial and it blows up in the news papers while the truly groundbreaking stuff is ignored. A jew doesn’t play fair economicswise, they group up and use illegal methods to get rich
The only reason why Perelman got the fields nomination is because he is a jew, what a disgrace.
And you wonder why so many people have anti-semitic feelings about jews, while other countries are “competing fairly” you guys invade a stronger country and destroy it like a parasite.
tardivement
Pumpkin,
verbal iq measure math ability too?? No have a pure-verbal iq without math?
In IQ tests verbal subtests are the more g loaded ones.
Verbal without maths it’s verbal fluency, Blacks are relatively good at that because this a more specialized ability.
Yes but i ask about verbal iq, verbal analogies et tal without math…
Mugabe theory seems may could be ”different environments have different variety and quantity of ”pathogens” wich a long term could cause disease&adaptation ( heterozigosis). But of course, is needed have selection specific and slightly aware. Pathogens in hot areas may be more agressive than in cold areas.
Ideas isn’t same that thinking, ideas are improvement of thinking or just reflexion. Think about soluction probabilities= ideas.
”Dylann” is hbd-er because he believe in asiatic superiority, whiteness of ashkeNAZIS and reject white nationalism, hihihihihihi.
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Whoa this comment section is crazy. I didn’t realize that Jews were just good at producing pie-in-the-sky social theories and didn’t have any real accomplishments otherwise. Oh, wait:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_inventors
Admittedly, I’ve never heard of great Jewish explorers or astronauts or surveyors (those categories belong to the Scotch-Irish). All the great governments and institutions were originally set up by Anglos, even if they’re currently controlled by other people. And East Asians currently dominate science and math grad schools in the West. But Jews are best at everything that requires real originality. Sorry guys.
While other races create concrete things, Jews create abstract theories, ideologies, ways of seeing the world differently. They invent the intellectual framework, the verbal categories.
The last time I checked, it wasn’t any Jewish person who came up with the idea that Europeans should set sail west and discover the Americas. And if it was, it’s was not an Ashkenazi Jew.
JS sailing the ocean is a concrete physical idea.
Jews evolved to come up with abstract theoretical ideological ideas like Marxism, libertarianism, feminism, neoconservatism…Jews are brilliant at organizing the way we think & creating the narrative structure for how we understand the world ! They brilliantly divide our World into categories (i.e. liberalism vs conservatism, prole vs SWPL). They understand the power of words better than anyone. If you don’t have a word for something it almost doesn’t exist
Yea, just words, that’s how Einstein came up with the Theory of Relativity and Richard Feynman came up with this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feynman_diagram
Will Pumpkinism become a new term for IQ fetish and Ashkenazim worship?
Only in America where Jews dominate, is where these terms become relevant of any sort, and if the Jews didn’t come up with these terms for other countries, someone else would have invented it.
The last time I checked, Paul Fussell who laid the groundwork for Prole vs SWPL was not Jewish. And I have argued with Lion over many times, Americans are all proles relatively comparing to groups of other 1st world nations. Also, proles have the same interests/values with SWPLs, but they approach it differently like the Republicans with Democrats.
The last time I checked, Paul Fussell who laid the groundwork for Prole vs SWPL was not Jewish
Karl Marx laid the original foundation & he was Jewish
So? Proletariat was called Plebian in Latin from the Roman Empire, which means lower class or a crude person. And yes, in Lion’s world, a crude person is also a prole.
Yea, just words, that’s how Einstein came up with the Theory of Relativity and Richard Feynman came up with this:
Actually verbal IQ & conceptual IQ is extremely important to making breakthroughs in theoretical physics. So when you combine those natural Jewish gifts with spatial genius, amazing things happen.
Jews are not that impressive as a people in terms of civilization achievements. In fact, they have produced nothing of significance, and never dominated in anything. They were only middlemen and mediators for more powerful groups. Of course, it helps to have a strong verbal ability to mediate.
And while we are at the subject of Lion. Lion felt he was disadvantaged for being Jewish. It is of course better to be a White Gentile than to be Jewish, in the grander scheme of things.
Jews are not that impressive as a people in terms of civilization
They don’t need to be. They may have evolved to thrive in existing civilizations, not to create new ones.
The human brain is metabolically very expensive so abilities that don’t affect survival are not selected for. Ashkenazis may have been highly selected for business IQ & the ability to create social movements.
JS, when people claim they are disadvantaged they are using high social IQ because this generates compassion from others. Lion has a very high social IQ.
Pumpkin – A lot of Jewish men are similar to East Asian men. They are not very desirable among the White majority. Many Jewish men who intermarry, are marrying East Asians, not other Whites.
@swank
what is race? the geographic origin of ones ancient ancestors is the same concept in different words.
what was a nation? it was a group of people and a land.
but today “nation” is used as a synonym for state.
even in ethnically homogeneous states people separate into groups/classes/parties/etc.
but norwegians feel much more “but for the grace of god there go i”/sympathy for their fellow norwegians than american citizens feel such for fellow american citizens.
why?
because however irrational and stupid it may be, the most salient first impression is always appearance. “i know almost nothing about you, but you look like me so i know we are from the same ancient nation.” or “you’re thin and athletic, so i ‘know’ you’re my ‘kind’ of person unlike fat slobs in legible clothing.” or etc.
Humans are superficial, but humans are also trainable. History, ancestry, founding myths; these can all be changed to fit the population that will be made into a nation. And not all of them need to center around superficial traits that are more or less innate — skin color, facial structure, etc. Isn’t that America’s real unfulfilled promise? Anyone can become an American.
When the liberalism reached its height in the US, two things happened: 1) the violent crime rate among minorities steeply decreased (the trend reversal started in 1980, not 1990), and 2) the achievement gap between whites and blacks significantly narrowed.
Maybe liberals aren’t completely right, but in terms HBDers can understand: liberals already did what they say can’t be done. And it happened in the span of 30 years.
and conservative george will agrees with you. but george will also said he would prefer there had never been a germany…today germany really is the best large developed country in many ways, it lost BIG TIME twice, so it’s given up rhetoric and ideology for pragmatism.
but according to harvard professor borjas (himself an immigrant) american immigration policy is a symptom of its un-democratic/plutocratic government. namely, immigration has little effect on total economic output per person. but it DOES redistribute income and wealth from labor to capital. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k6oUOPmaaI
if the us could live up to the ideals of the few remaining left wing patriots (like obama) it really would be an exceptional country…but the same is true of the whole new world and with the exception of canada and the us the new world is a disaster…even for most of its unmixed europeans.
America is ungovernable; those who served the revolution have plowed the sea. —Bolivar
”Pumpkin – A lot of Jewish men are similar to East Asian men. They are not very desirable among the White majority. Many Jewish men who intermarry, are marrying East Asians, not other Whites.”
Yes, many jews who marry with whites are rich, famous or have the biological similarities.
Jews are like parasitic wasps while whites are like spider. Spider build their briliant web while parasitic wasps are master to brainwash spider. Cognitive diversity.
Santo – A famous saying that use to circulate widely: Whites Make and Jews Take!
And for 100th time, Parasitic Jews cannot build civilization on their own.
I don’t care if they can’t build a civilization, even a nation without resources of others, the problem is this primitive vampirism.
That’s the problem. Jews need Whites.
They cannot build a nation, for example like the Japanese, who don’t have resources. Jews are total parasites/vampires.
Godslayer
JUNE 24, 2015 AT 7:58 AM
Well said!
Talking about IMO, even I did twice trying to get into Team China when was young… unfortunately on both occasions I got eliminated at the 2nd round in China’s internal pre-selection competitions. God, that was difficult. I can recall like if there were 4 questions in total, I barely could answer one and a half, with zero clue on the rest. LoL Actually I even studied with a member of later Team China in warm-ups once. I then came to realise that they were some of the best prodigy kids around and I, even as one of the top maths guys of a famous school, stood no chance at all.
I didn’t study maths as a major at all, but when I later participated high level interview exams of maths of a big-arse European firm, I easily broke the firm’s exam record and left everyone at the site stunned .
Arguably the funniest comment on this article.
If you want to see funny you go to Israel-Gaza bombing camp ok?
8 years old talent for repartee ?
Another 2 things I think need further thoughts:
1. the definition of verbal IQ, alongwith its seperation with spatial IQ. I duuno specialists of which fields coined the defintions according to what, but the inclusion of maths most into verbal side may seem illogical. Those guys who study brains and measure neuron reactions might have overlooked some imporatn aspect.
2. Many world-class IQ -related “experts”, such as Murry and Harpending (and prehaps even Lynn) often claim “proofs”of Ashkenazi IQ by citing things like “they are only X% of the population compared to the Whites, but get huge Y% of prizes, rewards, or “famous” people, blah blah. Then these words go viral in controlled-MSM and people start to rub shouders and quote from each other to “prove” something, as if they just discovered a new continent. The twisted logic of Murry and Harpending’s claim is painfully ridiculous, can’t people see?
This could be the right logic though, if Murry and Harpending tried to prove that Ashkenazis have avg IQ of like 200+. Just look at the IQ bell curves and corresponding populations of each, one should immediately know that the very reason why Ashkenazis can get that huge Y% of many categories is because they somewhat started at very different starting line from the East Asians and the Whites – underlying the very nature of unfair on-going competitions (due to whatever reasons). The fact is that the ultra high IQers of both East Asians and Whites (who could score at the top of Nobel or chess or maths, or “famous”person) , by their IQ bell curves, are at orders of magnitude large than the entire Ashkenazis population outting together!
Why this fact couldn’t be reflected in the results of the competitions, being # of nobel, or chess masters, or so-called “famous” persons and so on, as it ought to be, if the competitions were fair and square at the same starting line for all? – this actually is the true question mark that Murry/Harpending just proved.
The fact that Ashkenazi Jews were always a dependent group of an independent group (Whites), it shows they are of not much use independently.
Ever notice why Jews don’t settle in non-White domains? It’s obvious.
Europeans are able to live in Africa, and even in China with their communities, without much dependency of the majority. The same cannot be said of Jews.
Visual Spatial IQ, Jews are much lower than East Asians and Europeans, also lower than Arabs, Iranians and Indians.
If you look at the Hebrew Alphabet, it seems very obvious, that the writing system was almost devised by someone with visual impairment. It’s not very tight or attractive.
Shut the fuck up monkey.
Jews have a visual IQ of approximatively 100, idiot.
Hebrew were different from Ashkenazi, but you don’t even understand that because your brain is too small and slow.
And for the civilisation thing, I could tell you 100times it would have no effect, it is like to teaching to a dog to read.
Why do you mean Ashkenazi were different from Hebrew? They have been writing their language Yiddish with Hebrew letters.
You are the idiot!
So because hebrew language was not beautiful enough they should totally removed it ?!
You don’t worth discussion, you are an animal, your stupidity disgust me.
Their written language is very unattractive. Even Arabs write prettier with Arabic.
Pumpkin – A lot of Jewish men are similar to East Asian men. They are not very desirable among the White majority. Many Jewish men who intermarry, are marrying East Asians, not other Whites. (JS)
There is no “not very desirable”comparison here btw Jewish men and East Asian men.
Jewish men belong to “White” , at least officially and general culture and language-wise, etc, who has population of 500mio+. I don’t know the reason why they are not desirable. But at least they have potentially 250mio white women to look at.
Whereas East Asian men “not desirable’ in America is much more due to the fact that they have much lower ratio of East Asian women to look at, since East Asian population in American is much smaller compared to the White. Moreover, most of them speak different Chinese dialects and even languages (Chinese, korean, Japanese), many with their native culture, habbits, and language very different from the mainstream there.
So, Apple/ orange.
Most Jewish Men tend not to be very attractive for most Aryan Women. You must be crazy to think Jews and Whites are interchangeable. They are not.
Wow, so much hatred (anti-Semitism) directed towards a group whose total population numbers less than 20 million. People claim that Jews are leeches or parasites; well, gee whiz, how are they gonna create their own civilization when all of the major races with civilizations have well over 1 billion people???
I’m a defender of the tribe of Judah, back off motherfuckers
and no, I’m not Zionist/neocon
I think some people have so much hate against us, and they can’t tell a single thing about us in real life because they have no balls, so that they flooding the internet with bullshit trying to make us appear inferior and more evil that we are.
No, commentators like you inflate your egos with Jewish supremacy. Again, I never said Jews were totally useless. They however, were always dependent of White domains for survival.
Bibi play the typical psychopath card that jews always use, eternal victim.
Sorry, i no have envy of abedecedarian autoimmune problems or ridiculous psychopathic imprudent behaviour, like a enfant terrible.
Why eliminate whites if you guys have total control about them????
Why invent lies to take western world????
You guys only win when you are lying.
Invent lies to take the power??? Very smart but not enough,
Eliminate their golden eggs chicken, whites??? ( to eliminate competition, supposedly), veri swart, but not enough champ!!
Same problems since Bibilonia…
Commit same mistakes one time is normal,
Commit same mistakes many times is stupidity.
😉
Of course, why i’m not hate people who are masters to create STUPID problems?????? Why???
Bitch ”elites” are aggressive to take the power, but they no have wisdom.
Psychopaths overestimate their real ”intelligence”.
Greece only has 11 million people and it doesn’t get foreign aid like Israelis. The Greeks can easily beat the Jews in sports. I’m sure they can do considerable damage towards Israel if there was ever a real war between the Greeks and Jews.
Haha you are a troll !
Again, guys like you overinflate Jewish supremacy. Even a loser European Nation like Greece can beat Israelis in many physical sports. And also, Greece is a much prettier country than Israel, not counting Ancient temples.
Your IQ ? 96 ?
Lol, so have a pretty country and be good at sport is a sign of superiority ?! The real superiority is when you control people(goy) who themselves control nature, so you control the real world by using a proxy.
You have to think about what superiority mean in an evolutionnary way not in some subjective dreams, I don’t if you are capable of…but this isn’t only stupidity but also extreme arrogance so that you would never recognized here that you are wrong even if you are aware of it.
I never said it was a sign of superiority. But Greece and Greeks are sufficient enough to cause envy among Israelis. Prettier country, better looking people, better players, better food, and better music. They can only try to imitate, which Jews always do, when it comes to White people.
And Pumpkin should know by now, that Jews and non-Whites generally dislike White people, because of an inferiority complex. Jews and especially East Asians are great imitators of White Civilization.
“I’m a defender of the tribe of Judah, back off motherfuckers”
You also write that on top of your term papers, I wonder?
” East Asians are great imitators of White Civilization.” (JS)
True and false.
East Asia, traditionally, was just 1 country, 1 civilisation, that is Chinese. ( Korea was a part of imperial China sometimes; Japan, civilisation-wise, does not exist, but a sort copy of imerial China as well).
East Asia (Chinese) Civilisation has nothing to do with White civilisation in basically all walks of life, except the current era where the West has the upperhand and much more influences in the globalised world after the end of 19 century till now – hence what you said has a ring of truth , but only confined in a very short historical time frame.We don’t know if it will hold true for the future, or even immediate future. In the same vein of your judgement, the West used to imitate China’s technologies (via the middleman- the Arab and persian traders) as well in many fields centried ago.
We have no solid concrete evidence that Chinese technologies were passed to the West by the Muslims.
On a similar note, we have no proof that Northern Italians have East Asian ancestry, hence their impressive visual spatial capabilities in comparison to other Southern Euros.
Read this for a starter:
http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/song/readings/inventions_gifts.htm
Not only technologies, for centries the West aslo chased imperial China after its lifestyle (luxary items such as silk clothing, chinaware, etc). The very chase of spices and tea led the early Western determination to find another route to China to rid off the Arab middlemen – they found “India” and “Indo-China” as a result.
Some of those items that were passed to the Europeans are pure speculation.
Gunpowder? Byzantines already had Greek Fire in the Medieval Times that produced explosions. And this was before the Islamic Empire that served as a “middleman” between East and West.
Gutenberg Printing was developed independently from Chinese printing blocks.
Overall, without China, the West would still reign supreme, because all the technologies developed by modern day Whites were not influenced by the Chinese directly.
LoL, just looked at a piece of news article and realised who is this Dylann Roof. I geenrally care little about the domestic news from the US and didn’t read papers much these days. I thought this Dylann Roof guy was some far-right US politician or an academic scholar or something when this entry was just out…lol
Having tht in mind, I think I need to make it clear that I wrote here under this Dylan Roof entry of Pumpkin Person, because I took it as some kind of HBD discussions instead of a murder case, hence have nothing to do with supporting in any way what this Dylann Roof guy just did or said – which was a just plain cold blooded murder case of the innocent people that needs to be condemned, whatever his motivations were.
Godslayer
JUNE 25, 2015 AT 3:10 AM
Another well-argued rebuttal !
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First time I heard of this “one-drop” rule of Ashkenazis. Interesting!
I think this “one-drop”rule of Ashkenazis, or rule of maternal line, could easily lead to an IQ hoax in many scenarios if packaged and marketed well by media:
e.g.
any already-confirmed high IQ individual can cite that “since my great grandma was said to be Jewish, so I count as Jewish”, despite the fact that pobably the rest of his bloodline are largely German or English or Italian.
or that ” since my grandpa was said to be Ashkenazis, so I count as Ashkenazis”, despite the fact most of his bloodline are of central European Whites
…
These lead to a case that a centain (religious or sub-culture) group largely within the Whites take their entire right side of the bell curve branding it as “Ashkenazis” (because of some strong religious or sub-culture affiliation), while artificially discarding most of the left side of bell curve of this group as Sephardic Jews or even White. Then of course this will make a “high” IQ “new race”. Since this group has been so tightly held together by their belief ( being religous or even being political such as neocon) , they largely inbreed withn it which lead to some genetic problems in ther brains – this actually can be served as yet just another piece of “evidences” in their marketing campaign to argue that they indeed ARE a “new race” since they have different brain disease patterns from the rest…. – the making of a hoax.
The question here is if given a hair or any other main drivers that define a physical race such as bone, blood, skin colour, facial recognition, etc., can forensics scientists tell it is from East Asians, or Blacks, or Whites, or even Ashkenazis or Sephardic? For the latter 2, I’d guess NO!
People get the impression that Jews are smarter because they are in the spotlight.
They own the publishing companies so works and opinions that get published tend to be overwhelmingly Jewish.
They own the newspapers and visual media outlets so all those works get publicity. Even the nobel prize has become an institution seeking out and acknowledging the Jewish accomplishment.
Just because a panel of Jewish experts (existing for any cause)says the Jewish work is the best does not make it so.
Here’s how it goes:
Create an “Institute for Such-and-Such”, appoint your friends as the board of directors, they vote you to be the CEO, your uncle publishes your book which is basically a rehash of your dissertation and suddenly your an “expert”. Your cousin calls oprah and fox news and you get street cred. Any dissention is anti-semitism or racism.
In other words, they are vigorous self promoters and own the means by which to do so.
They definitely have average Iqs 105-110 but this is all verbal iq mostly used for swindling rather than science!
They invented the Jewish myth of intelligence by claiming quarter and 1/8th Jews as full Jews for their science awards statistics, as well as there are numerous science and math awards yet the two most publicized by the Jew media are the fields/wolf/Nobel who’s awards committees are full of Jews or people under the influence of Jews.
The deception is easily apparent by looking at the physical characteristics of so called Jews.
Scarlet johanson is a good example of someone who looks 100% European yet the Jews claim her as one of them since she has a Jewish grandmother but since part Jews are counted as full Jews her grandmother could been something like a quarter Jew or a half Jew!
Also see the myth of meritocracy by ron unz Jew sat scores and Richard Lynn gives a estimate of Jew iq of only 107.
Jews don’t dominate on sat’s, IMO, any objective competition such as programming, engineering, hacking etc
They only dominate in popularity awards and media exposure
Sounds logical.
I once questioned Ashkenazis avergae IQ at here:
http://drjamesthompson.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/warning-on-pisa-intelligence-may-be.html
I commented as Anonymous ~SP~. I couldn’t believe my ears when James Thompson, a respectable rigorous researcher, gave me the same BS answer as to count Nobel prizes and USSR Chess Masters as the proof, citing La Griffe’s complicated-sounding yet actually full-of-loophole maths formula for estimation.
What’s going on in the academic world these days? I couldn’t believe that a man with statue like James Thompson didn’t spot the smoking screen.
Detractors on this blog do not think the Ashkenazim are much smarter than the average White gentile.
Of course, Jewish fetishers like Pumpkin would say otherwise. Jews are more successful because of self promotion and in-kind social networking.
Their verbal ability is no doubt better than that of East Asians, but it’s questionable to say that Jews are more eloquent than Whites. Jews dominate academia because of self-promotion and high verbal ability. If Whites did the same, they could have surpassed them.
On the other hand, the results indicated that in Israel the proportion of top performers, those receiving a score of above 618 points standing at Level 5 or 6 is relatively large (8.8%) compared with countries of a similar average, though still lower than the OECD average of 11.4%.
The chapter released, titled “Creative Problem Solving: Students’ skills in tackling real-life problems,” revealed that the average Israeli score stood at 454 points, falling 46 points below the OECD average of 500.
ttp://www.jpost.com/National-News/2012-PISA-test-Israeli-students-receive-low-scores-in-problem-solving-skills-347195
The PISA exam is anti Semitic oy vey!
Yes, from the 2012 list, Israel is slightly better than the lowest order Euro Zone, Greece. Lol….
Greece is a pretty shitty country in the South Euro Zone, and it’s prettier than Israel. The people are better looking, better culture, better food and better topography.
Other Southern Euros do better than the Israelis, despite billions of dollars pouring into Israel from America.
2012 list, which shouldn’t be different for the subsequent years.
http://www.oecd.org/pisa/keyfindings/pisa-2012-results-overview.pdf
Godslayer,
Show me evidences that Jews score lower than Asians on an IQ test and I will recognized it and apologize.
And of course, saying that Jews score poorer in performance doesn’t mean anything because there is a lot of subtest linked with spatial abilities into it.
So show me the proof that Jews score poorer on arithmetic problem and others maths things with no link with spatial.
Where did I say that Jews had lower Iqs?
I have admitted in my posts that the research shows that Jews have Iqs from 107-115
My argument has always been that verbal iq is mostly used for swindling and not that useful for math and science.
The science kind of backs this up most bankers and lawyers aka swindlers have high verbal and low performance while most scientists and engineers have the opposite.
The top mathematician Terence tao has a performance iq of 230, even though his verbal iq is probably only 120-130. This values come from the study of mathematically precocious youth by john Hopkins where each participant in the study was extensively tested.
The not so impressive verbal score does not seem to have effected his career at all.
“Where did I say that Jews had lower Iqs?”
Are you retarded ? I never said you said that idiot.
What I say is you have no evidence to confirm that Asian scores better on the MATHEMATICAL part of IQ test than Jews, when this mathematical part is not link with spatial abilities. For exemple, arithmetic problem subtest on IQ test which obviously need logical mathematical reasoning but don’t need spatial abilities.
You have to read the entire comment before writing silliness.
Well, you don’t write anything because you have no evidences, fine.
Netanyahou is welcome in the VIP of hell.
average Israeli score…
Average’s, remember.
Netanyahou,
how you can explain the disappearing of jewish winners in Math national competitions in US*
>On the other hand, the results indicated that in Israel the proportion of top performers, those receiving a score of above 618 points standing at Level 5 or 6 is relatively large (8.8%) compared with countries of a similar average, though still lower than the OECD average of 11.4%.
Reread this part. OECD average of high performing students is still higher.
I would say the Jew dropoff is from low hanging fruit.
For example if you took Newton and transported him to modern day he would have to learn all the shit that happened after him before he can push the boundarys of mathematics.
This means that as science marches on scientists have more and more stuff to learn before they can make a breakthrough. Since everything in science builds of previous knowledge. If you don’t learn Newtonian mechanics, then you won’t get dynamics, you won’t understand thermodynamics, you won’t understand tensors if you don’t know linear algebra. You won’t be able to do tensor calculus without knowing multivariate calculus and tensors
So maybe a couple of decades ago Jews with 120-130 Iqs normed against modern day Americans were able to pick the low hanging fruit.
Achievement in the IMO is both a function of wealth and genetics if you don’t have good teachers for your child prodigy you won’t do well in the IMO. So the Jews with lots of wealth were able to beat genetically smarter but poorer opponents in the imo
Most of israelis are not ashkenazis, one of the obvious explanation to lower results of israeli students. I’m not against what you, JS and Panda are saying, but is necessary explain this part.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
According to this ashkenazis make up 47.5% of the Jews in Israel. Non Jews in Israel go to separate schools as well as ultra orthodox Jews.
Non Jews + ultra orthodox Jews did not participate in Pisa so the population that DID take PISA is greater than 47.5% ashkenazi.
In comparison Shanghai China had around 60% of it’s test takers as high scorers. If askenazi Jew intelligence were real you should be seeing numbers like 30%-50% as high scorers
Even among Ashkenazi Jews, the ones in America have IQs of 110 while the ones in Israel are 103, on a scale where U.S. whites average 100. The brightest ashkenazi migrated to America or the U.S. environment is better
santo – Israel is a country controlled by Ashkenazi Jews, and about 1/2 of population is also Ashkenazim.
Israel is similar to Southern Euro Greece. A shitty modern country and not very good in anything that is important. They also have other Jews, who are not that smart, and less intelligent than Southern Euros.
-santo – Israel is a country controlled by Ashkenazi Jews, and about 1/2 of population is also Ashkenazim.-
This is totally wrong, you sir must be an imbecile.
You are partially correct but generally, in my opinion, creativity is not made by CONVERGENT step by step, but exactly by insights, completely different way to think. Creative people tend to see, understand and interact with ”world” in a very different way. Newton also had to learn many things in maths. Sometimes, when there are a knowledge accumulation, the touch of genius will be see know knowledge in a different perspective because gifted people (and not just or exactly the higher achievers) tend to understand, analyse world in a multiple perspectives, visualize a problem or a theory.
You still need a IQ threshold to accomplish certain things
MOST people are capable of taking and passing physics 1 in college. AKA they areal capable of mastering Newton’s life work and if Newton’s work was the most advanced at the time then potentially a lot of people could make a breakthrough.
You could then say that the IQ threshold for Newton’s work is 100 iq.
Now what percent of the population can go even higher to do relativity?
Now how about the next level quantum physics?
Then you have individuals that can meet the own threshold but lack the opportunity.
If Jews were privileged while gentiles were impoverished you would see a lot of Jews making breakthroughs but if gentiles start getting privilege while the iq threshold increased You would see a sudden dropoff in Jew accomplishment.
MOST people are capable of taking and passing physics 1 in college
You’re talking about a restricted group (college students) and saying that most people, generally, could do what you say college students do. I disagree that “most people” have these skills after HS.
The lower division STEM classes weed out large portions of college students. Instead of memorizing several different formulae for d, v, and a, you can just recognize them as y, y’, and y”. Instead of memorizing several differential equations for LC, RC, RLC, etc. circuits, you can just realize they all follow from the closed line integral of E around a circuit loop equaling 0. Instead of holding correlations in your head as a clunky sum formula, you can just realize it’s the same as the scalar projection of an n-dimensional vector onto another –> a*b/(a)(b) –> (X – ux)(Y – uy)/sqrt((X)^2(Y)^2).
Realizations like that probably save a lot of time. You can get a STEM degree from a good school no sweat with a decent GPA without studying particularly hard. College is about concepts; graduate school is for technical mastery.
Whereas you may say “it’s all in the genes, here,” I would say “there are just gaps in knowledge.” STEM is unlike liberal arts in that it is simply more cumulative and requires a certain amount of knowledge in other areas before one can progress in any given area.
So what is this privilege I am talking about?
In the past a scientist would read papers in the library, if he wanted to shoot ideas off he would have to meet people in real life. If he wanted to look up a theorem or conjecture he would need to go to the library.
If a certain group had disproportionate access to university libraries and top minds it wouldn’t be surprising if they had a disproportionate amount of breakthroughs.
But in the modern day most knowledge of theorems and conjectures are on the internet, along with latest papers and important conversations can be had by posting on blogs or in communities like math overflow
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As for your statement on creativity,
To my knowledge there has been no legitimate study testing creativity. Amongst the races
There has been no legitimate way to measure creativity
And if you use historical inventions to justify creativity if you cannot the confounding factor of economics then it is useless.
To create inventions or new knowledge institutions of education are required as well as money and manpower to create prototypes and set up experiments.
What has been observed is that the creation of new inventions and ideas have typically followed wealth and the center of innovation has moved to many different places and races of people throughout history, and things such as religiosity, caste systems, government, culture all are capable of having an effect on the creation of inventions and scientific knowledge.
Therefore to say things like white people are more creative because we went to the moon or Jews are more creative because we have Nobel prizes, art and film making is highly unscientific.
Discussions of which race is more creative is ultimately just pointless speculation completely unbacked by science.
In a free environment with no restrictions (i.e. political, legal etc), creativity is largely a function of:
IQ thredhold +
resources: likely both human and financial resources at disposal, at least sufficient enough to sustain a normal daily life +
need : can be caused by either internal (e.g. desire, ego satisfaction, etc) or external (e.g. wars, orders, accidents, etc) forces, or both.
Panda had a “formula” on creativity in one of those old blogs of the Telegragh about 10 years ago. Lol
Creativity does have an effect though.
In the study of mathematically precocious youth two individuals scored a perfect score on the math portion of the SAT. Terence Tao and Leonard ng as well as scoring similar to each other on iq tests.
Both of them set off on similar lifestyles of being nurtured by world famous mathematicians, attending prestigious top universities as mathematical prodigies.
One of these men went on to become the world’s greatest contemporary mathematician.
The other man while being a first class mathematician is nowhere close to being as accomplished as the other and most people wouldn’t even be able to recognize his name.
What could explain this divergence if iq was the end all be all?
There is clearly a third factor at work call it creativity, call it personality call it chutzpah, but it is clearly there and there is not yet known if there is a way to define it, measure it or to know which race has more of it.
It could be speculated that if a race had lower average Iq but more of that unknown factor they could out produce a race with higher average Iqs.
“There is clearly a third factor at work call it creativity, call it personality call it chutzpah”
I would put it under my “need” element.
Godslayer,
less than a half is not super higher porcentage. It partially, may can explain lower israeli scores.
I saw an article in this blog saying you were gay, is that true ?
I have nothing againsr gay, I am even fighting for their rights.
A last question my friend, why did you chosen “Santoculto” ?
Please don’t answer to this by other questions, I could be really….
oops sorry , a bit addition to above, should be :
In a free environment with no restrictions (i.e. political, legal etc) with no shortcuts* could be taken advantage of or are allowed, creativity is largely a function of ….
* because human minds are always automatically seeking “shortcuts” whenever possible – that is, for instance, if one can copy someone else’s ideas with no extra efforts wasted and/or no prices paid, one will usually and lazily do so to avoid the painful experiences of reinventing the wheel.
There are different types of creativity, savant-like style, conceptually pure creativity and objectively useful creativity.
Painting and any other function where you ”just” use their natural talent to replicate something by self expression i give the adjective ”savant”. Painting perfectly a landscape is not like ”invent, propose or discover new -things-”. Replicate a beautiful classical music, reinterpret a dramatic piece… You are not being conceptually creative.
Creativity also can be used in evolutionary perspective, like survivability, capacity to survive and or improve your fitness in a qualitatively complex way, not just action and reaction.
Starting by this perspective, ashkenazis look very creative, but his imprudence and megalomania is slightly change the wind directions.
In evolutionary terms, creativity can be connected with criminality, specially those criminals who use greater strategy to cheat people.
Strategy, specially brilliant and unusual ones are great manifestation of objectively useful creativity.
Northern whites in these perspective, look autistic-like because their technical talent savant-like-ish and naivety.
I think threshold Andreasen theory make sense because highly creative people, specially the artistic and literary geniuses tend to be very different than scientist genius but specially than convergent high iq geniuses. Creativity is a degree of same biological foundation that produce mental illness, that generally depress iq scores. Higher convergent intelligence, what iq seems measure well, is the opposite, instead this kind of giftedness also be caused by the same panacea that produce mental illness and creativity.
Creativity express anomalous, unusual lateralization while higher convergent intelligence express very good lateralization. Ideas flow in convergent gifted brains like a waltz, constant, perfectly organized, little emotional, while in creative gifted brains flow like a tango, emotional, melancholic, unstable.
The Andreasen theory don’t say ”people who score higher than 120 are not creative”. Say ”is likely that highly creative ones will score above average ( on average, 😉 ) but not so much”.
To connect a bunch of different subjects and produce a unusual observations, ”creatives” just need the basics of knowledges or at least not super specialization to do unthinkable associations. My opinion.
”I saw an article in this blog saying you were gay, is that true ?
I have nothing againsr gay, I am even fighting for their rights.
A last question my friend, why did you chosen “Santoculto” ?
Please don’t answer to this by other questions, I could be really….”
Devil,
I don’t know what the rights of homossexuals mean in a ”modern” context… I think rights need of responsibility to be effective and today homossexuals, many them, are not truly responsible, even me because i have a savage soul.
I choose this surname because i like this sonority, because have a ambiguous semantic meaning santo-culto or santo- oculto** You know* But without other really important imperative. I’m very narcisistic and mundane-proud about what i build in terms of real, objective morality, the santo. But i’m not stupid nice guy…
Yes, ”i’m” mixed-fluid homossexual, i.e, but i think in my mind, love and sex are very different things, i can fall in love very easily with any people, woman or man, but i have a sexual attraction for men, because men is like a peacock, women tend to be very fake with his artificial ways to appear most beautiful. If all women were put with zero maquillage, zero ink or flatting hair and naked, they would be as a ”incomplete” men. Some women are truly beautiful but in the reality, i see men more demographically homogeneous beautiful and i’m a real beauty seeker.
What this questions**
I was thinking about what Darwin wrote about selection. The greater the selection, more fixed, the ‘trait’ becomes.
A possible contribution and rudimentary theory Hbd Chick. A population very select inbreeding traits, then these traits ‘or’ phenotypes may become fixed. The Jews could have selected this way and that would explain the completely irrational and disproportionate behavior of the group and their mentality ” us against all ”.
Only in America, Jews are important and worthy. In Europe, no one cares about them, except in anti-semitic discussions. Also, American Jews are very low class, like most Americans.
”’A possible contribution and rudimentary theory Hbd Chick”’
Sorry, correcting
”A possible and rudimentary contribution to the Hbd Chick theory”.
Also, intelligent Whites are a lot more eloquent than Ashkenazi, so the measure of their verbal ability is also inflated. Jews are underrepresented in the most prestigious areas of the American Legal industry.
*Also, intelligent Whites are a lot more eloquent than Ashkenazi,*
Wow, your stupidity as no limits.
”santo – Israel is a country controlled by Ashkenazi Jews, and about 1/2 of population is also Ashkenazim.
Israel is similar to Southern Euro Greece. A shitty modern country and not very good in anything that is important. They also have other Jews, who are not that smart, and less intelligent than Southern Euros.”
JS,
yes, i know. What i read in text of Counter Currents, ”jews” ”sometimes” use their achievements to blackmail ”whites”, like ”our inventions, our legacy, are not enough to let you be biologically destroyed by our collective actions ** ”.
”Also, intelligent Whites are a lot more eloquent than Ashkenazi”
Sometimes i thought the same. To be good to manipulate people necessarily doesn’t implies to be eloquent, a didatic one. Didatic people generally, have a very good verbal eloquence, good to build a fluidity in their discuss.
Well, stuttering seems common among ashkenazis. But, i think you can’t prove now that ”whites” are better in verbal oral fluidity than ashkenazis (maybe, than east asians, both jews and whites seems on average, better). At least to capture the big picture, ashkenazis seems above than whites. The problem about it is that collectivities on average will be less smart than the smartest individuals of any race or group. Collectivities attitudes reflects the average guy, the majority (or not) of a certain population.
Swanky said ”Whereas you may say “it’s all in the genes, here,” I would say “there are just gaps in knowledge.” STEM is unlike liberal arts in that it is simply more cumulative and requires a certain amount of knowledge in other areas before one can progress in any given area.”
Liberal arts may could be very hard but in materialistic nations, culture, real philosophy and arts are treated as secondary at the best, because generally, materialistic nations are capitalist and give little value to the individual, who are treated as slaves.
Quasi 100% of people who choice STEMS to graduate in high education, are genetically-cognitive prone to be good at ”hard” or constructive sciences.
Similar situation can be found on humanities.
Arts, generally, do not require a bunch of rigid knowledge, just a concepts of it to invent new ways to understand the world, by painting, body expression, philosophy and or politics, literature…
My math elastic (knowledge personal development) have lower elasticity.
Liberal arts may could be very hard
Anything done right is “hard.” Excellence is “hard.” That is why it is universally respected, almost regardless of where it’s found.
generally, materialistic nations are capitalist and give little value to the individual, who are treated as slaves.
To the capitalist, a feudal lord disrespects the individual, and the same relation holds between the marxist and capitalist.
genetically-cognitive prone to be good at ”hard” or constructive sciences. Similar situation can be found on humanities.
The process is the same. You are just manipulating symbols, which means you must learn what the different symbols mean. A cognitive profile centered more on “humanities” has more experience with those symbols.
Arts, generally, do not require a bunch of rigid knowledge
I’m not sure if artists need to acquire rigid knowledge: artists can always get lucky. But art depends crucially on its time period. It’s not an accident that artists discuss virtuosity versus expression and “normal” individuals discuss IQ versus genius. It’s the same discussion. They’re all the same discussion.
”Anything done right is “hard.” Excellence is “hard.” That is why it is universally respected, almost regardless of where it’s found.”
I agree but arts as well humanities were completely taken by judaico-liberal mafia. In my opinion, something without empathy or positive holistic utilitarism is far to be excellent.
”To the capitalist, a feudal lord disrespects the individual, and the same relation holds between the marxist and capitalist.”
Yes, when i criticize capitalism i’m not want to say ”because -socialism- is better”. REAL socialism is utopic… because leftists and rightists prefer compete one each other than cooperate.
”The process is the same. You are just manipulating symbols, which means you must learn what the different symbols mean. A cognitive profile centered more on “humanities” has more experience with those symbols.”
I don’t know what you are talking about. I’m not manipulating ”symbols”. First, you must need define this ”symbols”, who you are talking.
I just see that you are using terms like ”accumulation of knowledge” as way to avoid ”genetic determinism”.
”I’m not sure if artists need to acquire rigid knowledge: artists can always get lucky. But art depends crucially on its time period. It’s not an accident that artists discuss virtuosity versus expression and “normal” individuals discuss IQ versus genius. It’s the same discussion. They’re all the same discussion.”
Huum, yes but i don’t understand why you are saying it here. Seems out of context of this nano-debate.
Not all artists who are lucky.
REAL socialism is utopic
It’s utopic, given current societal values and norms, sure.
I’m not manipulating ”symbols”
No, I’m saying the different skills are the same at their core: manipulating symbols. That’s what language itself is, and that’s essentially what makes humans human. Verbal/math split may as well be fluency in different languages. For example, “and” is also represented by &. If I type & % $ #, you know it’s “and percent dollar number.” But if you only knew what & mean, you’d miss most of the comprehension and you’d be forced to memorize and guess what everything else meant.
Seems out of context of this nano-debate.
Making consistently good art does require knowledge. To anticipate the tastes of your audience, you have to know what they know and how they view the world.
Summarizing, as well happen with humanities, ”liberal” ARTS also was taken by judaico-maoist mafia. Some ugly, joke-ish and nonsense abstract ”art” are being used as genius-parameter. RELATIVISM is a fundamental parameter which define ”humanities&arts” today, different than ”excellence” of stem.
I even see this in the HBD-o-sphere and the alt-right blogosphere (areas where you would not expect Jews to be). The latest example is Rachel Haywire who has been challenging alt-righters to radically change the way they think and gentiles have been following her ideas in droves, and not because they worship Jews (they don’t), but because Jews just come up with theories that change the way we think. They are almost like magical beings. While other races create concrete things, Jews create abstract theories, ideologies, ways of seeing the world differently. They invent the intellectual framework, the verbal categories.
Chateau Heartiste/Roissy, aka James C. Weidmann, is a good example of this. Jew running a blog dominated by alt-right antisemitic types. Pretty funny, actually.
Quite a clever strategy if you think about it.