Scolar JP Rushton argued that Negroids/Blacks and Mongoloids/Orientals, were at opposite ends of an evolutionary spectrum involving IQ, behavior & sexuality, with Caucasoids/Whites falling in between. But Rushton never compared the races in sexual orientation.
In 2012, Gallup did a poll:
The poll of 121,290 individuals, the largest U.S. survey of its kind, found that 3.4 percent of all Americans identified themselves as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. The figures were higher for people of color, with 4.6 percent of blacks identifying themselves in that manner, followed by 4.3 percent of Asians, 4 percent of Hispanics and 2.2 percent of non-Hispanic whites.
One problem is the Asian is a meaningless term since it includes the largely Caucasoid Americans of Indian ancetry, however assuming the majority of Asians polled were Oriental (i.e. East Asians), it suggests that both Orientals and Blacks are more gay than Whites (and assuming Whites are less homophobic than Blacks and Orientals, and thus more likely to admit being gay, the difference is probably even larger than the poll suggests).
The fact that Blacks and Orientals are both more gay than Whites is difficult to explain with Rushton’s theory which predicts that Blacks and Orientals are at opposite extremes on evolutionary sexual traits, with Whites falling in between.
How do we explain this? One possibility is that gayness is largely not genetic.
Another possibility is that Blacks and Orientals are at opposite extremes afterall. Perhaps there are two types of gay men. Those who become gay because they’re too masculine for women, and those who become gay because they’re not masculine enough for women. That is, macho men (i.e. Blacks) want a partner who is more feminine than they are, but not too much more feminine. If a man is hyper-macho, then a woman will be too feminine for him, causing him to be gay.
At the opposite extreme, more feminine men (i.e. East Asians), might want a partner who is more masculine than them. Since women are not masculine enough, this may cause them to be gay.
By contrast, men who are not extremely masculine or extremely feminine (i.e. Whites) might find women the ideal partner and thus have the lowest rates of gayness.
This is admittedly incredibly speculative, but it would support Rushton’s pattern of Whites being in between Blacks and East Asians. Blacks can be too masculine to be straight, East Asians can be too feminine to be straight, and Whites are once again in the middle.
Yes, but a Black male is not too masculine for a Black female as an Asian is not too feminine for an Asian female.
Or may be you are suggesting this in a white society context and not in a wirld context ?
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Very good points as usual. I guess it would be limited to a mixed race society like the U.S.
Some gays are indeed very masculine and are drawn to rough masculinity. Military life is their ideal. For the theory to be valid those gays would have to be blacker than yellow. I actually don’t believe this theory, but .. it would work if the difference between the sexes were smaller for blacks and asians. More would accidentaly end up in the gay spectrum, and I think you are gay or not in relation to your own race, multicult society makes no difference.
Macho gays are repeatedly shown to be a minority in the gay population in part due to higher androgen levels decreasing the likelihood of becoming gay. Most gays are more effeminate on average than straight men. Also, it is not possible to be too mascline for women because it is the more masculine males that attract the most women since women are instinctively turned on by masculine traits. Also, men everywhere are instinctively more attracted to women with more feminine traits themselves, there is no group of men anywhere that prefer butch women. This explains interracial mating patterns, with Asian men (least masculine) and black women (least feminine) losing out. There are also studies which point to Jews (a Caucasian group) having the highest rates of male homosexuality of any race/ethnicity at 10% while hunter-gatherers have the least at about 1%
Do you really think East Asians are far away from the middle of Whites???? In what??? Of course, PP is talking about things like IQ, which is meaningless.
Sexual activity is more frequent in China than in the Anglo countries based on research.
What makes an asian man gay – attraction to asian men already at an early age. Interest in other races comes later, if ever. What is the normal orientation for an asian man – asian women. If asian men and women are very alike, gay-ity comes easily.
Lol no respect
They best hypothesis on the cause of obligate male homosexuality is the pathogen one, specifically viral.
http://www.steamthing.com/gaygerm
and
https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/greg-cochrans-gay-germ-hypothesis-an-exercise-in-the-power-of-germs/
Are great reading on this.
First, i really doubt that Just 3% of murricans are ”gay”, self-identified is not the same that ”to be”,
Second, the differences among the groups are little. This studies about self sexual identity are very heterogeneous in their results. Other study show 10% of chinese-americans are ”gay”,
Fourth, gay germ theory, again, again and again, was created starting by three wrong premisses: homossexuality is not heritable,
homossexuality is impossible to be selected because homossexual no have kids and no have advantages for fitness.
Starting by this three premisses,
giftedness ( specially super higher iq), creativity and genius are too, pathogenic in their respective natures because have little heritability, no confer any real individual advantage to reproductive fitness, men and women of genius tend to no have children, same thing happen to gifted and creatives, probably because there are a mutual co-occurence among homossexuality and other natural deviant’ behaviour.
Homossexuality are heritable and there are within families. Same happen with giftedness and creativity, but in a non-linear way.
No there the imperative to gay people have kids to maintain this predispositions in the human gene pool because homossexuality is part of natural sexual diversity, in other words, it continue to exist even without direct selection because every human couple can have a gay son or daughter. Sexuality is a combination between mother and father and some son will be similar with the mother or daughter look like the father.
Hb-d’ers, many them, tend to be directioned by convenience and by political or neoconservative predispositions, where creativity seems to be a good eugenic trait ( dispising their ”pathogenic” nature, degrees of mental illness) while homossexuality is bad dysgenic trait.
Self identified gay people tend to be the most impulsive them.
Homossexuality is part of sexuality and in my opinion, have MORE mutant charge than heterossexuality, sexuality itself have a ”pathogenic” nature. Have little direct heritability because impulsive or self identified gays tend to have 0 kids.
Homossexuality is not a permanent influenza.
Correcting, giftedness, creativity and genius are epigenetically inherited because traits which aren’t being selected are epigenetics, depend some particular and common combination of events. Human brain no have infinite ways to be altered by mutations or testosterone.
As well we have natural spectrum or diversity of almost human traits, color eyes, skin color, nose types, etc etc etc… Include behavioural variation. Why not sexuality???? A bug, every human trait are variable, less sexuality.
Traits ”or” phenotypes are not the same. Some phenotype are recessive, others are dominant, others are complex like ”intelligence” or ”personality”.
Hbd want go back again with this normative amish perspective, sex is just to procreate.
Schizophrenia is other complex panacea of phenotypes which confer in unlinear way many advantages, those seems obvious, ”creativity”.
I also thing ”evolution” and ”adaptability” happen when some ”pathogenic interactions” happen, causing a lot of mutations or phenotypical diversification. ”genes” would as older pathogens which are decanted and harmonized with organism, like good immigrants or eugenic ib gypsy Roma’ss. 😉
Are you gay ?
LOL! I commented on how so many Brazillian men are gay & suddenly the one Brazillian here is coming out of the closet.
😀
Yes, i’m.
Pamp,
you are expert in nothing.
I really doubt about your intelligence. You could go out of racial closet and tell us what is
-your ‘iq’ ( lol, iqtards are anti-intelectual),
– your racial background
And you are soooo famous… Who are you??? 😉
Look at Jayman blog to see mein theory about homossexuality. 😉
Yes my friend,
i do something productive with my intelligence.
You seems sooo surreal that i already think you are troll.
Condolences to W. Busch, 😐
Cale,
i already tell you to shut up?!?
Pamp,
Supposed genius here Mugab, think you are stupid. Probably, half of smart conmenters here think the same about you. JS? Swanky?
You take a certain information as absolute true. Simple too much.
”yeaaaahhh, 3% of amurricans are based on this study”. Finish! The end!!!
3% is not super lower than 4%. Is not statistically significative Pamp!!!
What is the conditions these interviews?? People lies in this kind of research.
Mathematicians who study human behaviour, maybe, behaviour itself, seems don’t understand it. Behaviour cannot be chaotic, but still complex because the unique environmental factors or personal circunstances make all differences.
Humanities meritocratic system are completely subjective. People who are against system are ostracized, des-selected. The deficit of healthy minds in the humanities can be explained by this terrible situation because the otherwise that many stem people believe, humanities is super important to the well being of a nation.
I say i go out this shitblog but unfortunately you continue over using Occan method. It can or not work.
Hb-d ( bio- DIVERRRSITY)
Intelligence??? = iq. Cognitive diversity?? Nope, because factor g.
:-S.
Sexual human bio-diversity?? Nope, because gay pathogen.
Height?? Gigantism ( neflinism) and ”nanismo” are disease. Diversity??? Huuum… Nope.
Weight. Renaissance muses look slight overweight. Beauty Standard change enormously. Diversity?? No. Overweight people are sick. Of course morbid overweight is clearly a ”disease”.
Etc etc etc
Go out of you closet Pamp. You are completely favorable to brave new world dystopia!!!
Pamp,
hbd tell us who she’s. White, irish, married, iq ‘around’ 120.. She’s soo famous. Now, you need to do the same. Your fans want know the king of iq-research!!!
JS is retard.
Nope, JS is not a retard. Iqtard fetichist are the real retard here.
Humanities meritocratic system are completely subjective. People who are against system are ostracized, des-selected.
The main problem is the focus on the general at the expense of the specific.
Two individuals may have the same IQ and be suited for completely different tasks based on their cognitive profiles.
Tests in specific subject matter, involving problems unique to a field are best for finding who can do what.
Pamp,
your blog is for fun. What is the last time that Hbd Chick link some of your posts in linkfest’s???
Again, i’m using you unintentionally as scapegoat. This torture will have a end.
I’m surprising. I put most of my thoughts about homossexuality in my debates with Jayman and you only put this comment??? I’m expecting your refutations. You are a ”expert” in iq and sexuality too, now.
Why are you still commenting ?
You seem fascinated by this blog
Huahuahuahuhua, i’m just like to debate. what is the Blog i’m debating no matter. I’m anxious to stop visiting this cheat. Time question. This blog is fascinanting because psychological nuances of human stupidity. I’m a problem solver and Pamp and others just create problems. Is a common pattern in hbd sphere TOO.
Recently, i read a text write by Steve Hsu. He was talking about supposed generallized incapacity of verbally oriented smart to understand the world. Of course, just mathematics and mathematicians can understand it.
”soft” science ( dragged by cultural jewish marxism) versus ”hard” science.
He use the example of Steven Jay Gould to ”prove” their point. Charlatan verbally smart like Gould manipulate people BECAUSE their cognitive profile.
What a fuck!?! Jewish elite falsified anthropological science narrative and we, verbally oriented, are the guilty? ??
I no have more stomach or patience to this kind of mistakes.
I read hbd blogs since 2008. What Pamp post here is not surprising for me. He is just replicating what Sailer and co. post years before.
I don’t see why my comment can’t be posted
There is no such thing as being “too masculine to be straight”. That has to be the stupidest idea to ever come out to this blog (then again, you also think Australoids are black, that any species is “more evolved” and other nonsense). It is consistently the most hyper-masculine men by biological standards that sleep with the most women on average and have lower rates of lgbt men. Gay men in every society are consistently less masculine & more effeminate on average than straights and have much lower fertility rates. Macho gays are a minority and they tend to grow out of the gay lifestyle faster than the feminine ones. Also, all populations/cultures of men prefer women with more femininity, not less. That was you see many White man/ Asian girl & Black man/ White girl couples.
Besides, most empirical evidence (self-report studies don’t count due to inconsistent results and cognitive biases effecting data) points to Jews and people of NW European descent (including White America) having the most gays, with Asians having the least and Blacks in the middle. That explains the practices of Greece and Rome, why White men are more likely to fail to reproduce than blacks despite better living conditions as well as why only in the west those a gay rights movement exist.
(REFS: Remafedi, Resnic Blum and Harris (1992) Demography of sexual orientation in adolescents. Pediatrics. 1992 Apr;89(4 Pt 2):714-21; Remafedi, Resnic Blum and Harris (1992) Demography of sexual orientation in adolescents. Pediatrics. 1992 Apr;89(4 Pt 2):714-21; Krieger and Sidney (1997) Prevalence and health implications of anti-gay discrimination. Int J Health Serv. 1997;27(1):157-76; Rust 2000, Bisexuality in the United States; Krieger and Sidney (1997) Prevalence and health implications of anti-gay discrimination. Int J Health Serv. 1997;27(1):157y -76. Belkin and Bateman 2003. Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell: Debating the Gay Ban in the Military)
The only thing the gallop study reveals for sure is that Blacks are merely more likely to come out (which makes sense considering their more extroverted and shameless profile). Also, East Asians are actually the least homophobic race by all standards. Both historically and currently, there is much less violence, discrimination and general mistreatment of gays in that part of the world than most of western history.