One of my most prolific commenters is a Brazilian hybridized white named Santoculto, who I imagine looks something like this:
When he first started posting on my blogs about a year ago, I couldn’t understand a word he said, but thanks to reading me on a daily basis, his English has improved enormously. Unfortunately not much else has. Although I don’t generally moderate comments, I have set up the blog to flag aggressively bizare behavior, and boy did his comment yesterday get flagged. He begins by trying to minimize my childhood precocity as a function of mere energy, not talent:
I understand very well what you said. You just have higher energy, for example, to importune Rushton.
Take it from your head my freund, iq doesn’t make anyone instantaneously a ”genius”. You are like most of ”modern expert” today, because you don’t know and seems no have capacity to develop the conceptual basis of ”iq-science”, firstly, the intelectual basis of iq (verbal-abstract), the subject who you are studying since 11,12 years.
He then compares IQ testing to beauty contests:
Iq is like ”measure” the beauty level in a miss universe contest. Miss Uass have 130 of BQ (beauty quotient), Miss Namibia ( Rhina Van der Tess =) have 150 of BQ. Why not a miss or mister universe IQ contest** No doubt that would so ridiculous than miss universe’s contest.
You are the worst Napoleon Soldier because you have higher energy and higher stupidity even if you clearly isn’t a classical average joey. My theory about hypothetical % of ”smartness” and ”stupidity” in a individual level is right.
He then throws his own parents under the bus:
My parents are very intelligent. My mother is a grammar portuguese specialist, my father is strenght in engineer and entrepeneur…. but, they AREN”T smart, they have higher TECHNICAL (and not INTELECTUAL) and QUANTITATIVE intelligence, what iq express…. father yuppie, son hippie. Real politics, they never touch… High culture** nope. Philosophy** No,no…
What is the advantage to have a tower that touch the sky and people yet live in extreme poverty or in very dumb discussions in ”mainstream debates”******
He then claims my expertise means nothing and I have no understanding
If you are a expert in iq (and not in intelligence, real things) then you are expert in nothing, but even to understand ”iq” you no have capacity, sorry because i’m saying this things for you but someone need to do the devil’s advocate here and most people in your blog are completely paired with your point of views.
He then talks about commenter Mugabe:
Mugabe say many interesting things, in my not humble opinion, specially about politics, REAL politics (and not ”what is the iq of senator Hernandez”), but he’s incapable to explain a clean way your theories. Theories seems that deny racial natural ”inequalities” or differences**
And then compares him to commenter Swank:
Swanky is a classical higher intelectualized but extremely abstratized (left wing) person with higher intelligence but without capacity to understand ”common core”, because he or she despise it as ”popular opinions” and because he or she have a personal political agenda, all this predispositions which are natural for him.
My father is one of the most conformist person that i know. He yet not accept my choice for vegetarian diet lifestyle but i no have doubt that if most people were vegetarian, he would be too.
He then continues to rant against me.
Your obsession with supposed ”fame” is soo strange, superfluous and unnecessary.
I’ve never seen hbd chick talking about his ”fame”. You are the only one who talks about it all the time as if it were real, important, or to prove something about yourself. Fame is a infamous word, period.
You seem so desperate to prove his genius, via IQ. Anyway, I just could you advise a good psychologist because I think you are in need of a wise person (a very good psychologist because most seem to be terrible) to give you good advices. And you need to be open to accept this advices.
Anyway, his obsession with his fame is so great that even speculated if you a troll. And I have not dismissed the possibility.
I know that smart and creative people or even when discussing about their ‘gifts”, also showed talent in other areas, obviously, show what they are smart and or creative.
I do not see where the theory of multiple intelligences is undoubtedly contrary to the g factor or iq.
Cognitive tests as I have spoken from the beginning here, does not measure real FULLY cognitive capacity, because it is based on a static intelligence and skewed in scholastic prospects.
The school is not a faithful representation of human intelligence, although measure many of its attributes and that there are several positive correlations between them. The intelligence does not begin and end at school.
And finalizing, you are not a genius as you think. A just average person with above intelligence, specially technic intelligence. I don’t see creativity, innovation capacity in your job here, just speculations about trivialities and regurgitate the ”hbd” knowledge that Steve Sailer already show us years before. You take the positive statistical correlations found among iq and other social things as absolute truth, sorry, because this confusion is typical between ”stupid” people.
Ciao
Because English is not his first language, he often uses the term “his” when he means “her” and “his” when he means “your”. I say this not to insult his English (which is good for a non-English speaker), but to help him & other non-English readers improve it even more. So “I’ve never seen hbd chick talking about his ‘fame” should be “I’ve never seen hb chick talking about her ‘fame'” since HBD chick is female.
Similarly, “You seem so desperate to prove his genius, via IQ” should say “You seem so desperate to prove your genius, via IQ” since he is talking to me, rather than about me.
I am sorry if my approach here is too simplistic to impress Santoculto, but I love simplicity. To me saying there’s more to intelligence than IQ is a bit like saying there’s more to a population than the sample of it you poll. Of course that’s true, but just as you can’t go out and poll every person in a country, only a representative sample, you can’t possibly measure every cognitive function of the mind, only a representative sample. I believe IQ tests, especially the more holistic ones like the WAIS do a reasonable job sampling the most important cognitive functions in most people, though I do think they could be greatly improved by adding more social cognition (Theory of Mind), Executive Function, and self-awareness (what Santoculto once very brilliantly described as the mother ship of intelligence).
Pumpkin Person 
In 2010 i was a proto-neonazi with degree in picaretagem.
When most people turn themselves to conservatism i mature enough to perceive that capitalism is completely-to-substantially wrong and White nationalism cause no have creative-empathetic-holistic people enough to make them less naive, lost, dualistic-generalist and more objective.
I know you love simplism, DIFFERENT than simplicity, but is not really the same than sinteticity. Search the meaning of this word to know what exactly what it mean.
Other word that you unknow using your loved simplism is SELF AWARENESS.
You don’t know the concept and meaning of it in real world.
Bizarre is called you as a wise person and continue give credit about nothing. I prefer read old texts in Steve Sailer. But you have little and important credit because some times you make important questions to hbd-knowledge as ”jewish brain size”. To be fair, you deserve congratulations for it.
But i’m very rigid with you by now. I’m using you as scapegoat about really stupid human problems around the world.
Many self centered people are not wise or self aware enough to understand themselves And the world. You are not the special person what you think you are because you are exactly like most self aware people, good enough to improve themselves, not enough to be a real wise, with many Real anti-social personality traits.
And i’m not look like a typical hybrid brazilian guy. Yes, i’m hybrid but i’m not a quadroon nor octoroon, i’m look almost european.
You don’t understand my idea about self awareness and intelligence and i’m not continue to comment here.
I’m against disharmony and anti-system, while you are specially PRO-system.
Society is divided based on system-demands. It do not mean ”all are the same” but system give priority for people who will sustain it and not by people or ideas to improve ( qualitatively), re-build or destroy it ( of course).
And you are not worry about this extremely relevant issues, even to serious investigation in cognitive theoretical psychology. Real philosophy is nothing for you.
I’m not officially studying english.
Conflict between us is just a time question.
Goodbye definitively!!!
What the…
Low IQ people make more “dramas” than high IQ people.
SHUT UP!!! Por que no te callas?!?
Other mentally retard iq-fetishist to participate this trash blog. ”Your” iq don’t mean nothing in real world, just correlate.
In a demo-cracy or evilcracy, stupid people think they can comment about anything AND no there a right or wrong opinion. Why expect a idiocracy in the dystopic future if it always was the rule??? We already live in a Idiocracy and narcisistic lunacy of iq-fetishism is a prove it.
Gifted people, i.e, real gifted people generally tend to be very emotional. Not because ”irrationality”, but exactly the otherwise.
Gifted people are treated as if they have a problem. ”why they can’t be normal???”… Or… Why they can’t be like us, conformist with injustices around the world??
Low IQ people make more “dramas” than high IQ people.
This is very true. IQ is negatively correlated with hysteria. High IQ people tend to be very calm, cool, collected and good at keeping their heads together under pressure. Low IQ people tend to fly off the handle and go absolutely ballistic.
This is illustrated beautifully at the 10 minute mark in this video:
“SHUT UP!!! Por que no te callas?!?”
LOL you are talking in your first language because you are very angry, that’s cute.
You are the caricature of the low IQ Latina bitch who get angry against the Gringo who nabbed her.
Santoculto is very irrationnal and his reactions are often deeply emotionnal.
But I have to admit that he is right on one point: you are always talking about your supposed celebrity and it is very weird, especially given the fact that you aren’t celebrity in the general meaning of the term (your only a celebrity in the hbdsphere). And even if you really were a celebrity, it would br weird. Don’t take it bad, but it’s like a child behaviour.
Pumpkin can you explain why are you always talking about your celebrity, even when it doesn’t serve any purpose ?
What the hell are you to judge me as irrational??? I know, just other mentally handicapped iq-fetishist.
This dement think like that
”gifted people are those who score higher in iq tests”
Iq is far to be the better predictor of giftedness. Just correlate. People can’t be summarise a digit numbers, specially those who are very complex and intense.
They already think is impossible score ”lower” in iq tests and be a ”genius”. Every piece of human intelligence need to fit with iq-fetishism dogmas.
They don’t know what genius and creativity mean, despise intelligence concept and don’t know that iq prove cognitive diversity or multiple intelligences and not the contrary.
This blog even is not ”debate” about iq but iq-fetichism like Christianism don’t talk about God but about christianism.
I’m now a persona non-grata here because i develop different opinion et premisses. When debate really happen, i.e, different and rational opinions, most people avoid it.
If i proved the point of e-views of iq fetichists no doubt they put me in the top as a new ”revelation”.
This blog also is completely political,
neoconservative,
sioniste (many hbd’ers love to talk about super-mega-higher jewish intelligence. Intelligence is good because is intelligence. They can to do many problems in western society, Soap America or Middle East ”but” they are smart. Empathy is a weakness, intelligence whatever how it manifest is always good, they think.
I say i go out here but i have to answer this stupid ones.
“I know, just other mentally handicapped iq-fetishist.”
IQ tests are actually the best way to mesure intelligence but they are not perfects.
“This blog also is completely political,
neoconservative,
sioniste (many hbd’ers love to talk about super-mega-higher jewish intelligence. ”
This remark totally prove your stupidity. Yes, a lot of hbd’ers are stupid Whites neocons sionists but I don’t think it is the case of Pumpkin Person and it’s totally not my case so I taking this as an insults coming from a stupid ape which overeacted emotionnally because he is hurt by a truth he doesn’t want to accept.
Cara, você é chato demais. Que chororô bizarro. Maldita inclusão digital.
To pumpkin: the average brazilian basically looks like the photo. We have darker skin ones in rio, northeast and north. But if you visit someday the south of Brasil (not recommended, what the hell someone would do in a third world shit country like this?), probably you would be surprised with so many blondies
Pumpkin when is your speech in NYC ?
You weren’t there?
No, was it filmed ?
I hope not. I banned all Iphones.
What is “executive fonction” ?
I ask this because it doesn’t make any sense in french.
It’s the part of intelligence that manages the other parts, and allows you to adapt to very dynamic situations by shifting your attention and focus in a very agile way. IQ tests do a poor job measuring it because on an IQ test, you just do one type of problem at a time. In real life you multi-task.
I’m talking about it many times, the static nature of intelligence which are measured by iq tests.
But without have in your little head that bio-diversity is a reality for most of traits, specially a complex phenotype like intelligence, you will use this information to fit with your premisses, personal premisses, because neutrality of analysis and judgment is very rare in self aware instinctive creatures… Specially for narcisistic ones. I talk by personal experience.
There is a theory that say that the bigger difference in testosterone between Whites and Asians than in IQ came from the symbolic writing of China.
In fact, the symbolics writing have allowed the “Chinese continent” to be unified because it was the same symbolic administrative language for everybody.
On the contrary, Europe wasn’t allowed to be unified, so nations results of that. And nations made war for calory, so people with more testosterone stay more selected than in China.
What do you think about that Pumpkin ?
It’s really simplified because I can’t speak very well english, especially with scientific vocabulary.
Rushton’s theory brilliantly explains the testosterone differences. No idea why HBDers feel the need to keep coming up with new theories.
It doesn’t dismiss Rushton’s theory but it add some precisions. For exemple Southeast Asians are less evolved than Whites but they still have less testosterone than them.
Culture can sometimes influence genetic.
I commit a mistake, nothing opinion is completely wrong or right. But to search the truth, is need develop a holistic facts system. So, cognitive diversity with many subgroups of ”smarts” ( and not just technical and intelectual intelligence… Empathy and sympathy for example, a cognitive domain which are indirectly correlated with ”intelligence”) and others quantitative cognitive subgroups.
Iq-fetichism prove old hierarchy y partial meritocracy.
Yet= ainda
already= já
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Observe that mentally retard iq-fetishist talk EVERY TIME about iq, nothing about intelligence or creativity or wisdom.
They are very disturbedly cold and stupid, like robot without feelings. Hb-d have a guilt about it.
The world is a shit and ”smart” ppl like pamp say are calm und collect facts while world is pain, unecessary suffering and ”avoidable” conflicts.
Put it in your little head Pamp, you are not gifted. Precocious is not the same than gifted. You are at the best, high achiever, low cognitive class of higher abilities ”pantheon”. Not a problem solver. Yes, you are better than many high achievers. But it doesn’t mean you are the best. Your perceptive capacity stop exactly when you find the answers who you are searching und nein when you find the objective, realistic and holistic answers. You avoid personal- inconvenient truth.
“Put it in your little head Pamp, you are not gifted. Precocious is not the same than gifted. You are at the best, high achiever, low cognitive class of higher abilities ”pantheon”. Not a problem solver. Yes, you are better than many high achievers. But it doesn’t mean you are the best. Your perceptive capacity stop exactly when you find the answers who you are searching und nein when you find the objective, realistic and holistic answers. You avoid personal- inconvenient truth.”
You would be right if he doesn’t answer to this comment:
It doesn’t dismiss Rushton’s theory but it add some precisions. For exemple Southeast Asians are less evolved than Whites but they still have less testosterone than them.
Culture can sometimes influence genetic.
Culture many times change pressure in selective processes. People who aren’t conformist with the rules will be ostracized.
Cal, Sourheast Asians are a mix of Mongoloids & australoids & thus have a mix of r and K traits.
Evolution necessarily don’t mean less testosterone.
Santoculto, it work only among agriculturists (there is the exception of the Europeans).
Pumpkin, it doesn’t work that way, when you have a Black-White hybrid he doesn’t have for exemple, a White skin and totally negroids features.
Hbd is more complex than natural environment influencing the genetic of a population. It work like that:
Natural environment->genetics->society->genetics.
And if you have noticed it the Europeans are just behind non-Europeans Caucasians, Australoids and Congoids when it come to testosterone. And they have more testosterone than all what we call “Mongoloids” who are all less evolved than Whites (at the exception of East Asians).
Look at it carefully and you will see that this theory is totally coherent.
And I repet it, it just add precisions to Rushton’s theory.
So I guess Santoculto looks more like the Puerto Rican Singer, Ricky Martin, who’s a Octoroon, but I don’t see any apparent black features in him. Anyone who is 1/8 black is negligible black. It would not surprise me if Gisele Bundchen has a black ancestor, although unlikely.
So many people in brazil think they’re white. There was a news story about a super dark black man who was asked what it was like to black in brazil. He turned around in shock and said “I’m not black.” They have kind of a reverse one drop rule there. A drop of white makes you white
Over simplification about something is not simple. Ignorant people use wrong parameters to deny reality. Period.
A drope of non-black, make you a non-black.
Soccer player Neymar said that
Ricki Martin is also gay. Being gay is extremely common in Brazilian men though they don’t realize they are
The reverse one drop rule also applies to their sexuality. They screw one woman & they think they’re straight no matter how many men they screw. Brazil should change its name to Denial.
Lol.
Not just ”gay” men. Fluid sexual humans are more common in all societies. The idea of ”heterossexual-homossexual” despise the middle of spectrum.
stupid people say ”if you have sex with other of same sex, you are gay”.
Stupid people beliefs are not rational parameters.
As well laterality spectrum, sexuality have same principles.
It’s normal that Brasilians have an identity problem given the fact that Brasil is actually the most multicultural country of the world.
Nope, i’m look like a iberian or italian. Completely or almost a gracilized mediterranean with alpine influences.
You are finally staying at home sweety.
What*
One of the (few) good things in Brazil is that we do not have this hysteria about having a black ancestor. From an outside perspective, it sounds just ridiculous
Probably Gisele has some black genes. I (blond/green eyes) have 1/64
One of the racial dynamics in Latin America was to white washed the non-Whites, and anyone who has an ounce of White, was considered “White”. Unlike the Anglosphere, where nothing makes any sense. The Anglos are always talking about racial harmony and multi-racial utopia, yet the English speaking nations are the most against race mixing and racial integration.
And yes, race mixing is beginning to become a common thing in the USA. But they are late in the game, and much of it has met with criticism and is going nowhere. Latin America has dealt with the problem early on, since colonial times.
Cale,
i read there are two types of testosterone measurement and manifestations, testosterone levels and CIRCULANT testosterone. Seems, a man can have higher testosterone levels but lower circulant testosterone.
What it work only for europeans**
I don’t know much about it but I think that when we are about differences in testosterone between races, we are talking about the testosterone which is actually active.
The fact of having higher testosterone despite being more evolved, and this for the cultural reasons I have exposed.
I also read that this studies about testosterone and race despise the fact that testosterone level is not homogeneous during long term and what is the testosterone ”type” the researchers is measuring, active or total**
If testosterone is fundamentally connected with ”typical” male behaviour, then subsaharians will have higher testosterone and east asians will have the lowest. Seeeeems height and weight may have a impact in total testosterone, specially if tallesness is a typical (or demographically common) male phenotype.
Other possibility, speculation, is that, some or many man may have greater acumulation of testosterone during adolescence and early chronological adult life, like i think happens with blacks.
Brain maturation in most of alpha males is earlier and ”brain maturation” implies in natural world, ”the apex of competitive (reproductive) life”.
”It’s normal that Brasilians have an identity problem given the fact that Brasil is actually the most multicultural country of the world.”
Nope, based on your parameters… Homossexuality is not a identity problem. Stupid fetichist-iq ones are those who have identity problems, megalomaniacs without wisdom and astuteness to manipulate the perception in a smart way.
When a brazilian pardo identify as pardo or as non-black, he’s not wrong.
The murrican one drope rule is likely to be arbitrary than ”brazeelian reverse supposed one drope rule”. If i’m a mixed guy, a mulato for example, so i’m not a black but just a mulatto.
Brazil is one of the most multi-mixing race people AND NOT multiCULTURAL. Uass have more cultural diversity than Brazil in quality and in quantity.
Not homosexuality but the fact to not assume it.
About, the race it’s more about the fact that, for exemple, between two mulattos, the one with more white admixture see him as more White and the contrary happend for the other.
For the “multicultural” term I have employed, I admit it lack exactitud and I have thought about it when I was writing the comment, but I didn’t find another word, and I didn’t thought that someone will noticed it. So, you have right on this but it doesn’t dismiss what I have said if you are not playing on the words.
Not assume is not the necessarily the sign of identity confusion. Binary mind. Or black or white, or homo or hetero. Nope, world is much more fluid than you are thinking.
What ”you are not playing on the words” mean**
This kind of analysis start of judaico-christian point of views and not natural objective point of views.
I was reacting to Pumpkin’s comment where he says that “Brasil should change it name to Denial” by saying that it was normal given the reason I previously exposed.
So, I used the same kind of exemple he used, that seem obvious.
Playing on the words mean that you are making a big part of your argumentation on the fact that I have used an inexact word.
The word who you use is not exactly inexact, is just usual.
Even Murrica isn’t a complete multicultural country because modern murrican mainstream culture is not based on a combination of cultural elements around the world, just superficially by now. Mainstream murrican culture continue to be murrican and not multicultural.
In terms of demographics, yes, Murrica is a multicultural and multirracial country, but not a multi-mixing race country because despise latin americans immigrants, less than 10% of murricans are mixed race or explicit mixed race.
Brazil is a multi-mixing race country with a homogeneous prole-macho culture.
He was inexact given the context of the sentence in which I said that Brasil is the most multicultural country of the world.
Yes i already understand. No problemy.
Pumpkin,
that’s the difference!!
what do you mean by “abstratized?” Abstracted?
Yep.
…and then, are you saying I’m a conformist, like your father, or not a conformist, unlike your father.
I don’t mind talking with you, even though you seem to think I do it from a place of bad faith.
Swanky,
your narrative is completely liberal. You can think about yourself as anti-system unconformist, but you accept completely the liberal point of views. Then, you are not unconformist anti-system enough to be a real unconformist.
Deny racial natural differences in intelligence is exactly accept the system narrative. Miscigenation is using to create a enourmous worldwide Brazil. The owners of the world want destroy all human cultures because humanity is obsolete entity, for him. For me, humanity is ”just” stupid.
This is untrue. I don’t accept “completely” that all cultures are equally good or bad for civilization and society.
Deny racial natural differences in intelligence
That’s even the narrative. The narrative is that those differences do not exist at all — whether biological or environmental.
And Santo, the evidence doesn’t bear out the differences that do exist being innate.
Adoption studies, when all are considered are consistent with environmental and genetic explanations. HBDers point to a preserved hierachy (which is not present in all the studies), while detractors of HBD point to the fact that adoption into higher class homes does raise IQ (however, because all of the children are adopted, you’d expect a hierarchy to be preserved).
You seem to believe that it’s all just a foregone conclusion. If you objectively evaluated the evidence, you’d see the dust hasn’t settled at all.
Is completely impossible debate with dogmatic people expecting some improvement.
Culture is not a thing, period.
You even talk about ”people” because you prefer talk about ”culture”.
To be wrong is a human Standard.
Culture doesn’t exist?
You may as well say there’s no software, only hardware.
Swanky,
i already said here i’m fuck for iq and i’m fuck specifically for psychometric studies that no make ”standardization” of their variables.
Your dogmalogy say ”every physical human trait is heritable… Less -psychological-cognitive- traits”
????????
c’mmon my friend!!!
Psychological and cognitive traits ARE physical traits too.
The act to see we give the name ”vision”, the act to do well math we give the name ”math skills”. Some people have very good vision, others not. Same happen with cognitive faculties. Some people need use glasses, other not. Some people have dyscalculia, other not.
You know people who are good at math tend to have anatomical differences in their brains???
Is not the rule, but is far to be uncommon that creative parents have creative kids and to all the rest.
You may accept it??
I’m not surprised that their brains are different: but this is consistent with both genetic and environmental effects.
Understand that if ”epigenetics” were sooo randomized what you think, we have much more phenotypical diversity… But we no have enormous human genetic diversity or at least in our time.
Your Faith called HOPE. The new liberal belief in science. Supposedly epigenetics is more Powerfull than genetics, but not.
Subsaharian peoples evolved in natural world like almost human beings in early ”human history”. I HOPE primates species to be retired from natural world to have Flynn Effect too, 😉
30 points to Bonobo’s…
”children who drink mother milk during 3 years are smarter”.
Same thing happen with gamers and intelligence. They are ”smarter”’ ( the huge problem in interpretation) not because they like to play games but just because they are smarter and smart people need or like to be cognitively stimuled. See a Bergman movie, play a video games ( strategic, fun, challenge)…
Swanky,
myopia is heritable?? ( and ”utopia”?? :-P)
Please, i expect your answer.
Socialism, i.e, no oligarquic collectivism, is possible only if ”socialists” accept what conservatives are very predisposed to accept, natural differences.
Huh? All traits are heritable to one degree or another. But heritability and inherited aren’t necessarily the same thing. And the extent to which genetic variation accounts for total variation is very context dependent.
Intelligence varies within families, but average intelligence in a bio-archetypal Family modulates this variation. Then, in a bio-archetypical subsaharian Family, the probability to one of the children born TECHNICAL-QUANTITATIVE ( IQ) OR INTELECTUAL ( ABSTRACT THINKING ABILITY) will be lower if compared with a european or euro-american bio-archetypal families.
Why intelligence heritability can’t varies among human races??????
I repeat again, dogmatic people is worst than rocks. At least rocks go always agree with you.
I ”think” you no have real ( and not mistical and sterile) wisdom to infer any substantial and objective thing to improve this debate.
I remember when you say ”racial differences in intelligence stuff is MORALLY wrong”. Period. You already forget it??? 0:)
Please, don’t use this terms about morality. Dishonest people are not morally right. And your good will is based on idealization of peoples, specially black people. ALL born good, is the WHITE society that peverts BLACK people. 😉
Of course not, heritability is a potential and inherited is a result.
One the problems in this debate is the emotional charge.
Yes, because ”we are talking about human beings”, is disguting talking about it, but not.
I don’t believe in superiority, is just a word.
Objectivity and real world ( neutrality), please!!!
Heritability is variable, remember the basics in darwinism… Blacks on average, are not forever less complex-specialized smarter than whites or east asian. Most part of time, the fundamental differences in intelect was produced by natural events.
Yes, average whites are smarter than blacks, the differences aren’t so enormous like many people think but is enough to cause great differences in functionality and harmony in society.
But, bad elites make bad countries. African elites are undoubtely inferior than swedish elites, BUT elites on general are very very inferior. I’m not a elite-fan like Pampkin.
First, the higher probability that an SSA will have lower IQ than a white is consistent with both an environmental and genetic explanation.
Second I believe you mean to say that genetic differences in intelligence can exist between races. HBDers don’t argue that the heritabilities are different.
Anything is possible but intelligence is not nose length or eye color or even height. The same goes for psychological traits generally. Genes that code for intelligence are likely pleiotropic and touch on several aspects of cognition, which is partially why the supposition of a huge shift in the phenotype over such a short period of evolutionary time is unlikely. Height is controlled by many genes but they all are involved with tallness. And what Jensen boiled it down to essentially was just that: it’s like nose length and height so why not? There are many reasons why not.
And if you can find where I said exactly that this was all morally wrong, I’ll be here waiting.
When you say heritability is variable it seems like you refer to the fact that the trait varies. I’m actually talking about the extent to which genetic variation accounts for differences in a trait: this is a very local measurement.
Instead of wasting your posts insulting me, why not just address the arguments put forward? Like I said, it is you who seems convinced that all of this is a foregone conclusion.
Socialism doesn’t require genetic determinism but genetic determinism leads to socialism.
Socialism require reality, then biological ”determinism” is required, because supposed utopic socialism is extremely difficult to work in a natural world. Well, one of the ways to help socialism would be sterilization and extinction of ”alpha” males and females or reducing their numbers and Power a lot.
People have personal prides. The muscular man ( or woman), the beautiful person and his 😉 beauty… Etc… Why smart can’t have pride about yourself?? And it implies intelligence.
How so? The original human society was egalitarian, so what “natural world” are you referring to?
There are other reasons to prefer socialism besides genetic determinism. Environmental determinism leads there too. And even with a capitalism as human nature mindset one can still arrive at socialism. Only libertarianism requires free will and a just world to function.
indeed…iiuc…
if “the left” were publicly and unapologetically in favor of eugenics, “the right” would be like an infant who couldn’t swim wading into the deep end.
eugenics would disappoint the hereditists, but it would also force social domocracy.
Pampkin is a high achiever,
he like the school,
he’s concerned to take higher scores,
he’s conformist ( capitalism is superior, ”losers” are totally responsible for their own situation, fame is very important, more than achievement).
High achievers, on average, are those gifted who are very conformist with ”systemy”, because system select them, system need non-wise smart people to work well for it and not to fight against.
High achievers, who generally aren’t wise people, are the end of human normalcy. They are technically gifted, on average, without overexcitabilities.
Swanky,
Utopic socialism is not like hunter gatherer societies. Both are egalitarian but human societies evolved by competition, what things happen in a ‘natural’ world. Why amazonian amerindian tribes don’t build a more complex societies?? ( even it were ecologically sustentable). I hate capitalism but it is reality. Civilization was the antithesis of ”primitive” societies. I think.
A way to have both two, competition and equality. But even in hunter gatherer societies there hierarchy.
The competition humans evolved in was evolutionary. All that matters is number of surviving offspring. The hard fact is that the most intelligent within civilization are evolutionary losers. Socialism doesn’t do away with sexual competition. It also doesn’t do away with merit based job performance.
And the societies you mention didn’t build more complex societies because they didn’t need to.