In a previous post, I noted that genetically India is a mix of non-white caucasoids (genetic IQ 90?) and australoids (genetic IQ 73?). Based on this you would think India would have a genetic IQ of 82, however even with widespread malnutrition keeping folks below their genetic potential, India already averages 82, so India’s genetic potential must be much higher than 82.
But how can India be genetically smarter than 82, when 82 is the average of its parent races? Because the australoid aboriginals of India were probably much smarter than the autsraloids of Australia. I had wrongly assumed that since Australian aboriginals have a genetic IQ of 73, then India’s australoid aboriginals likely had a genetic IQ of 73 too, but there’s a huge difference between the two.
Sometime after agriculture was invented 10,000 years ago in the Middle East, there was a population explosion, that gave rise to all kinds of new mutations. This is discussed in the book The 10,000 year explosion. I’ve argued that these mutations seems to have raised the IQs of everyone in and around the Middle East by about 13 points. This explains why East Asians (genetic IQ 105?) are about 13 points smarter than Arctic people (genetic IQ 91?) despite both being cold adapted Mongoloids and why congoids (genetic IQ 80?) are 13 IQ points smarter than capoids (genetic IQ 67?) despite both being Negroids.
The East Asians border the Middle East so they had exposure to 13 point boost. The Arctic people (and Native Americans) were isolated so the new mutations never reached them.
Similarly, the congoids roughly bordered the Middle East so had access to the 13 point boost. The capoids were deep in Southern Africa and did not.
We can extend the same logic to the australoid aboriginals of India. The Indian subcontinent borders the Middle East thus had access to the 13 point IQ boost. The australoid aboriginals of Australia were isolated way over in Australia so they did not.
So if the australoids of Australia have a genetic IQ of 73, then the australoids of India probably had a genetic IQ of 73 + 13 = 86.
So when these australoids with a genetic IQ of 86 mixed with the non-white caucasoids (genetic IQ 90), they produced a population with a mean genetic IQ of 88. However malnutrition seems to have dragged India’s current IQ down to 82 (6 points (0.4 SD) below its genetic ability).
One might wonder why India’s IQ is not lower still given the severe malnutrition. One possibility is that the malnutrition (while terrible) is not nearly as bad as in sub-Saharan Africa. For example, The Daily Mail claims young men in India are 174 cm tall which is only about 0.54 SD shorter than American young men. Perhaps nutrition is stunting their height and IQ to similar degrees.
Aryan hordes who invaded India, create hindu philosophy and civilization seems very smart no?? If average iq of high castes today is ~ 105, then this higher intelligence can be directly inherited by this ‘aryans’ and maintained by caste system.
Dravidian culture before ”aryan” invasions seems smart too?? I remotely read about it then i can’t infer something more elaborate.
Seem too many assumptions…
1. Though I haven’t read “13-IQ-boost “in The 10,000 year explosion, intuitively it’s hard to imagine it’s simply due to closeness to the ME agriculture revolution (AR) unless it has concrete gene/DNA evidences for that. Is it a hypothesis anyway? It seems hard to believe in light of comparison with Industrial revolution (IR) which has much larger impact than agriculture one: If AR had raised 13 IQ pts, why IR didn’t ? – 200+ years now, did Europeans go further 13 pts higher than till-now-never-industralised Africans and/or MEers?
2. That Sinic civilisation is 13 IQ pts (now, not neccesarily then) higher than Arctic people may not entirely due to AR. I’d argue early stage complex city-life & nation-building activities such as inventions of bureacracy, meritocracy, high tech, high arts, etc also helped. Moreover, the fact the why Sinic Mongoloid quit ice-cold climate whereas the Artic people (stupidly!) stayed showed that the former had some IQ lead over the latter even back then before the AR, because smarter people always look for better /best survival and self-multiply environment one way or anotehr, kill if neccessary, whereas less smart people stick in an obvious dead-end environment waiting to be eliminated eventually by the Mother Nature.
3. If 1 and 2 are somwhat reasonable, then India Australoid IQ being 13 IQ pts higher than Australoid aboriginals of Australia will not be entirely true.
4. last not least, Indian young male avg hieght of 174cm is utter bullsh!t., 164cm is about more in the ballpark. Be aware of Indian sources. Numerous serious Indian sources show that in a conference of India Science Congress recently in Mumbai, an India aviation speaker argued seriously that India invented aircraft 7,000 years ago when they went intersteller travel with that.
The 10,000 year explosion never claims a 13 point IQ boost, that’s my own speculation
truth in vino veritas:
stat crux dum volvitur orbis.
Indians in the UK (mostly shudra/vaisya types i.e. middle of the range) perform similarly to Whites. I think that India’s average genotypic IQ is only modestly (like maybe 3-5 points) lower than Europeans’.
Also malnutrition in India is pretty severe and actually worse than in Sub-Saharan Africa by some measures. There’s a very heavy parasitic disease load due to the low hygienic standards. I can well imagine its average IQ being very greatly depressed like by 10-15 points (i.e. similar to SS.Africa).
The parasitic load is the important factor for poor Indians. Caste is also not important because Muslim Indians aren’t in caste system and may have even worse poverty than Hindu untouchables. In this case, people have plenty of adequate nutrition, but parasitic load renders that meaningless as the body doesn’t even take it.
Indians in UK massively out perform whites in the main GCSE educational attainments though. Other South Asians also out do whites in this measure even Bangladeshi peasants.
I read, because intense cultural marxism, swedish youth change their behaviour a lot and today they are very ”rebels” with minimal authority, even kids. Cultural environment can have a effect here because white british youth also are strongly influenced by intense permissive behaviour attitudes which are teach by new left (oligarchical collectivism) while cultural environment of ”asians” in UK are arquetypically conformist and family-oriented. Collectivism can have a role to made sons help their families by education enphasis, while white youngs are influenced by cultural environment, aka, mainstream media, to personal satisfaction than obey collective or familiar demands.
Other possibility is that white people on average, mature slowly than southern asians, even in same iq levels. Asia, sino or indo, seems to be the regions where subjacent spectrum of Adhd was strongly des-selected.
Indian generic IQ has little to do with malnutrition or parasitic diseases (in a sense that they depress it):
1, Modern Indians(any “caste”) must originally came from somewhere on this .planet, right? but where? The simplest answer would be: except they entirely came from China, Korea, Japan, or Germany or Spain or Portugal , it is impossible to have avg generic iQ > 95 (which is Spanish and Portugal IQ?)
2. the small waves of “Aryan” (white or non-white Caucasoid) from so many thousands of years ago have long been interbred out of existence by the aboriginals, or at best to be like one out of millions now like those half-a-handful of Bollywood stars.
3. Assume that if the entire populations of Iran or Turkey(IQ mid to high 80s), neither known for suffering from malnutrition or parasitic diseases, had been transplanted entirely into an “empty”India, then India’s IQ would have naturally been mid to high 80s, simples. And indeed these Iranians and Turks would be considered as some of the “highest castes” in India today.
4. We know that historically most of Indian “high castes” were actually Persians, Turks/ Mongolised Turks, and perhaps even some Arabs ( with avg IQ of high 80s) through many large waves of invasions and assimilations, being the both the conquerers and the overlords of “India” – some of the “highest castes” by definition.
5. Therefore, unless there is a proof that Indian aboriginals have avg IQ of way more than 90, it is impossible for today’s India to have avg genetic(non starved, non parasitic) IQ more than mid to high 80s – those of “high caste” Iranians and Turks.
Even assume that Indian IQ is 3-5 points lower than Europeans, where would you put IQ of Iranians, Turks, Thais(with a considerable Han Chinese doze), Indonesians, Stan-landers, or even the Arctics? Their IQ would be higher than Europeans (100) thus?
BTW, I would take most of the UK results with a pinch of salt, because drastically different from SAT in the US, UK exams have been largely dumbed down in the last decade, with many results showing that Indians, Bangladshis, even Somalies being the toppers by some UK mainstream sources. Yes, Somalies, google it.
Actually exam results from Indians form the US and the UK are 2 extreme outliers, which can not be quoted alone to prove anything.
it’s because the US (and Canadian/Australian) results would largely come from the top 1% or even top 0.1% of selective Indian immigrants – the IQ toppers from ALL “castes” in India; whereas the UK exams are largely watered down making it almost insignificant. Unfortunately these results are the most frequently quoted here and there to “prove” something. Very naïve indeed.
If one tries to prove something, try to get results from Indians from countries such as Germany, Holland, Swizterland, UAE, Fiji, Mauritius, or former apartheid SA, etc where the Indian immigrants are less self-selected (even though still are to a certain extend in case of Europe) or the exams are not watered down so much, hence could be compared more reasonablely.
is there any evidence to your assumption. why was there such large gap between Chinese and white British students.
I don’t think upper castes are Persian. they cluster more with east Europeans.
How can they be top 0.1 pc. Indian Americans are 3.2 million in size. Indian population is 1.2 billion. 3.2 million / 1.2 billion is 0.25 pc. Also, 60 pc of India’s population is less than 20 years or ore than 50.
Are smart 5 year old kids also migrating to USA on their own ?
0.1 pc or even 1 pc mathematics does not fit in.
Cochran would say disease in an ethnicity says something about its selective pressures. India has a huge incidence of diabetes despite barely increasing average food consumption while high iq is very rare.
Malnutrition in India had a huge idiocracy effect in India. Constant famine made high iq less useful. High iq deals with complexity and complexity only happens with agricultural surplus, which India rarely had. In a constant famine where brainpower isn’t rewarded, the first thing to be selected against is brain size.
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Lol. U mad bro?
GCSE scores are not watered down they show very large differences by SES and Indians in the UK are not anywhere near as selected as in the US, which has been pointed out long time ago. On top of that, Bangladeshis who came there AS PEASANTS do better than whites now. After closing the gap dramatically. Other South Asians also do better.
Wait you right, Indian space program is filled with blonde blue eyes and very light skinned Indians. Like so:
and so:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
”Actually exam results from Indians form the US and the UK are 2 extreme outliers, which can not be quoted alone to prove anything.”
Yes, i already ponctuate this possibility a long long time here in Hbdsphere. India have today 1,2 billion people, human pacific ocean. Less than 1 million indians live in UK and less than 5 million. C’mmon!!! Even their average iq was low if compared with western and eastern asian world, a lot of mutations should be happening (happened) there because greater populations have more mutations and system caste is prolific to produce new mutations by diferencial mate or caste mate. I think similar situation can be happening in Africa but without a super rigorous caste system. I think even endogamy can produce new mutations. Depend on mate patterns. If same marriages of same people happens, the variability will be less. Even with little genotypical diversity, i think, you can produce variability.
I think the relation of overpopulation and benefic mutations to intelligence is based on idea of genetic combinations during the conception. Like creativity, higher the number of ideas, higher the probability to have great (and bad) ideas. Same happen with this situation, higher the number of genetic combinations, even in not-so-smart families, higher the probability to have smart and dumb kids and specially in smart families.
The number of parsees in India is very little but they have a disproportional impact AND visualization of this impact in achievements as well as an particular elite of this country. Same analogy can be used to explain impact of aryan hordes.
India look like Brazil. Here, there are a greater variation of intelligence with greater geographical discrepancy (even very localized discrepancy).
Pumpkinperson’s number-crunching game on Indian IQ is more and more like the style of a poster called Recman01 or something (where is he?) with his identical famous post of Indian high caste IQ=112. LOL
The danger of number-crunching is that giving me enough assumptions, I can crunch ANY “right” number you’d like to see.
India generic IQ is quite easy actually (I like simple intuitive logic more than endless assumptions in which no one can prove anything):
1. On the 2 sides of Eurasia, cold weather in the ancient time has made Sinic and White Caucasoid generic IQ >=100 ==> widely recognised, no assumption necessary here.
2. anywhere bettwen China and Europe we have relatively mixed population 9due to one cause or another) largely Caucasoid with avg IQ 85 or so, the smartest of them is recognised as most likely Iran and Turkey, Stan-lands aside.
3. Aboriginals (from India to Indonesia to Australia) have to near/around the Pacific rim hvae avg IQ lower than 2.
1+2+3 + Africa Negloid are by and large the population around Eurasia on Earth.
Unless one can present concrete proofs that
A) Indian high castes are in fact Western or Eastern Europeans or NE Asians, AND
B) Indian high castes total populations are about half of India’s, OR
C) Indian high castes are not from this planet originally,
we are more or less safe to say that India’s genetic IQ fall anywhere between 2 and 3, without any unnecessary assumption on hunger index or parasitic deseases or whatsoever. And no any number-crunching more complicated than (1+2)/2 is involved.
Accord Darwin, improvement of enviroment increase number of new mutations or variability of course because severe climate or habitat conditions, indeed, select fundamentally the stronger.
“I read, because intense cultural marxism, swedish youth change their behaviour a lot and today they are very ”rebels” with minimal authority, even kids. Cultural environment can have a effect here because white british youth also are strongly influenced by intense permissive behaviour attitudes which are teach by new left (oligarchical collectivism) while cultural environment of ”asians” in UK are arquetypically conformist and family-oriented. Collectivism can have a role to made sons help their families by education enphasis, while white youngs are influenced by cultural environment, aka, mainstream media, to personal satisfaction than obey collective or familiar demands.
Other possibility is that white people on average, mature slowly than southern asians, even in same iq levels. Asia, sino or indo, seems to be the regions where subjacent spectrum of Adhd was strongly des-selected.”
Lol.
But whites have improved in GCSE scores too, by a fair amount. Also none of the groups revert AT ALL and the group that has made the most gains are Bangladeshis have the least possible selection. They have erased the gap and are opening one to whites. Pakistanis have gained too, very close to whites now, virtually Identical to other whites.
Biggest gain by least selected and poorest group of South Asians. They ERASED THE GAP!!!!. On top of that they are Muslim.
Choking on evidence are we? Hahahahahahahaha.
😐
You are indian??
Is important analyse all the variables, cultural includes.
Other factor.
If most of indian and south asian immigrants are very above cognitive capacity than their respective national averages, then these direct comparison between highly selected populations with average ones is unfair.
Pfft. Ok. Go ahead and fall over yourself for as long as you want.
Final nail in the coffin is coming sooner than you think.
Hitler,
….
Debate is not a battle.
I think white people on average are more affected by cultural marxist propaganda pollution than others because these propaganda was made exactly to influence white youth behaviour, of course starting by predispositions.
I’m not denying any possibility, Just thinking in other sides. What’s your point?? South asians are on average genotypically smarter than europeans before ”flynn effect”???
You seems agressive. You are indian or south asian is not?? You could answer directly and without histeria or excessive emotion in your words??
-I answered directly with evidence, you can simply google the GCSEs and ethnic IQ in UK. Everything I said is there.
-I am a very aggressive person. I enjoy that fact.
-Don’t care about what ethnicity I am supposed to be according race. Will never answer you.
You happy?
Pakistan is far more caucasoid than India and in Average rank for last 10 years in Math Olympiad –
India = 30 from top
Pakistan = 85 from top
The most caucasoid Indian caste is Jat, per DNA 75% caucasoid
Most Sikhs ( as in UK, USA ) are Jat
In many states in India, Jats are classified as Other Backward Caste ( Shudra ) and get affirmative action quota, bcos they cant compete mentally against high castes
rec1man,
We hear so much about India “high castes” all the time.
e.g. Brazilian “high castes”, if can be called in such a term, are ethnically un-mixed Europeans (Portugues, Spanards, perhaps also some Anglos-Germans) and NE Asians such as the ethnic Chinese and Japanese.
Assume that Indian high castes are not from outter space originally, who were/are they ethnically? They are Russians? Ukrainians? Slavs in general? Latins? Spanards or Italians? Germans? Pols? Greeks? Romanians? Dutch? Nordics in general?Finns? Norseman? Eskimos? or Persians? Turks? Arabs? or they are Francos? … They gotta from somewhere, right?
Don’t tell me that they are “Aryans”, since it seems that genetically one do not know yet for sure who were those mythtical “Aryans” and who were not. Hitler even thought that theTibetans were related to “Aryans”.
Massive meta-analysis of twin studies: The shared environment and non-additive genetic variation have little impact. This proves that the additive model pursued by Steve Hsu for IQ is correct.
You know that you are posting this on a blog where everybody know that ?
Ever seen the incessant bullshit posted around here by Mugabe (Mike) and swank? I’d love to see them try to argue against this…
Especially since they say that twin studies are useless. I don’t know seems more than useful to me from this paper! Not that you’d expect a drunkard to know about that.
“his proves that the additive model pursued by Steve Hsu for IQ is correct.”
Lol, show me where in the paper it actually says it has proven this genetic model.
Actually read the paper. It proves that non-additive genetic effect and shared environment are irrelevant and don’t factor in much at all in the heritability of basically all the traits in there.
Lol. Show me where IN THE PAPER it says that the additive genetic model is proven by the study.
Read it you moron. Twin resemblance for a majority (69%) of traits appears to be solely due to additive genetic variation.
Hahahahaha.
“For a majority (69%) of traits, the observed twin correlations are
consistent with a simple and parsimonious model where twin
resemblance is solely due to additive genetic variation”
Thats where you failed to quote from lol.
Show me where it says that it proves what you said it does? I’m waiting.
http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1000008
This paper proves it too. Perhaps read it in conjunction with the previous one. Unless you’re illiterate.
Lol, even that study, never, ever says it proves the additive model. The authors you cite from, or should I say the same dumbasses you cite from are not anywhere near as dumb as you.
There is a very good reason. The authors of these studies never actually says that the model is PROVEN, because it hasn’t.
Europeans are a mix of Western Hunter Gatherers, Ancestral North Eurasian and Neolithic farmers? Were all three “caucasoids”? IMO race theories don’t work anymore, especially if you try to relate it with IQ. Also, do you realize that the Japanese are shifted towards Papuan types? In low K ADMIXTURE runs, the Japanese tend to score some Papuan.
What makes WHG or ANE smarter than near eastern neolithic farmers, who overran the hunter gatherers of Europe?
This is an interesting blog. What I’d like to point out, however, is that there is quite a bit of misinformation regarding the genetic makeup/ancestry of races and ethnic groups/castes found in India on this blog. I noticed you implied in some of your posts here that Indians are hybrid population between two groups, one most similar to present-day non-White Caucasoids, and one most similar to Australian Aboriginals — this is pseudoscience and completely inaccurate. Let me explain what the genetic/latest research has actually shown, as far as India’s demographics, and the genetic composition of its castes is concerned. What follows is a detailed explanation of South Asian genetics and therefore, I must warn you, it is a long wall of text, but completely accurate and supported by the latest research, despite containing a lot of jargon that may give you a headache. Bear with me here.
Indians are composed of two composite groups: ANI or the Ancestral North Indians, a group which itself is a composite of two or more different Caucasoid populations, that are on average, closest to present-day Georgians in genetic makeup, and ASI, or the Ancestral South Indians, a group which is also a composite of two or more different populations, at least half of which is Caucasoid in nature, with the other half varying in composition from one ethnic group to another; in other words, while ANI is completely Caucasoid in nature, ASI is 50-60% Caucasoid in nature, depending on the caste in question, and the remainder of ASI ancestry is either composed of Mongoloid, proto-Mongoloid, proto-Caucasoid or in exceptionally rare, isolated cases like the Paniya tribe of South India, of proto-Australoid-like ancestry, which still isn’t the same as having Australoid ancestry. Keep in mind that Australoids themselves are at least 80% Mongoloid in genetic makeup and are considered to be archaic Whites themselves. They are also the furthest group genetically on Earth, from the Negroids/Congoids/Bantuids of Sub-Saharan Africa. So, apart from a minority of untouchables of South India and parts of East India, who are not even a part of the Caste system to begin with, NO other group in South Asia has any proto-Australoid-like admixture to speak of. And Indians are predominantly Caucasoid and group with other Caucasoids according to every genetic test/anthropometric study since the dawn of time. More information:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Neighbor-joining_Tree.svg
http://archive.org/stream/racesofeurope031695mbp#page/n529/mode/2up
https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/03/12/are-the-people-of-india-caucasians-yes/
It is crucial to remember that Indians have nothing to do with Australoids — those people are completely different apart from a very few isolated tribes in India that have real proto-Australoid-like admixture due to their status and extreme isolation, and this admixture has nothing to do with ASI admixture — ASI is just like the paleolithic ANE influence in Europeans, and half of it is Caucasian (at least half, if not more, it varies for different people in India) and it is a composite just like ANI is, with different components for different people/castes in India. The Reich et al paper even pointed out that the Onge were at BEST, a poor proxy to get something without ANI admixture, and little ASI admixture, and even then, it was a worse proxy than the Han Chinese. In other words, East Asians were a better proxy than the Onge themselves. The reason they picked the Onge as a (poor) proxy was because they were the only group they could find in that region without ANI admixture, and because they are such an old population that has been isolated and separated from mainland populations for a very long period of time; they also have very few individuals left, so owing to the problems of genetic drift, they assume ownership of a component and the admixture program tries to force the Onge component in an admixture model of South Asians. In more recent papers, this has been clarified further and it has been stated that they were simply making a poor guess when using the Onge as a proxy in the model.
More information here: http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/39141-ASI-%28ancestral-south-indian%29-is-not-related-to-Onge-negritos-australoids?p=1050864&viewfull=1#post1050864
and
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/39141-ASI-%28ancestral-south-indian%29-is-not-related-to-Onge-negritos-australoids?p=1061499&viewfull=1#post1061499
Furthermore, to illustrate just how poor of a guess it was, they pointed out that ASI is massively separated from the Onge; in fact, ASI is just as far from the Onge as the Utah Whites (a group of random Euro-descent samples from Utah in the States) are from the Onge, indicating that ASI is as related to Onge as Utah Whites are. More here: http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/39141-ASI-%28ancestral-south-indian%29-is-not-related-to-Onge-negritos-australoids?p=1054161&viewfull=1#post1054161
Papuans and Onge have no relation to India at all — the Onge are in SE Asia. Han are a much better proxy. In addition, Indians lack Denisovan admixture and other crucial haplogroups found commonly in the Onge as well. It must also be said that if Indians are erroneously assumed to have proto-Australoid-like ancestry, so are Europeans. You might be under the false assumption that Europeans are somehow a “pure” Caucasoid population, when in fact that couldn’t be further from the truth. Not only has the latest genetic research conclusively shown that Europeans are all admixed to different degrees between AT LEAST four main populations of people: West European Hunter-Gatherer (WHG), Early European Farmer (EEF), Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherer (SHG), and Ancient North Eurasian (ANE).
More at link: http://eurogenes.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/ancient-human-genomes-suggest-three.html
It has also conclusively shown that ALL populations of Europeans and other “White” Caucasoids have significant to HUGE amounts of non-Caucasoid ancestry due to the fact that the ANE/Ancient North Eurasian component is at least 45% East Asian/Mongoloid in ancestry. The ANE component is based on the genome of the infamous Mal’ta boy or MA-1 (see here). In Europe today it peaks among Estonians at just over 18%, and, intriguingly, reaches a similar level among Scots. Finns, Russians and Mordovians, also carry very high ANE, in addition to very high amounts of much more recent Siberian admixture. What’s even more interesting is that this ANE influence is the very influence found among South Asians, albeit in a slightly different variety known as ASI. Here is a graph explaining this in a simple manner: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b_OUyvAOJfo/UH6mOGV0OII/AAAAAAAAG9U/tP3lG_BxQ20/s640/tangledweb.gif
What the aforementioned information means is the following: Indians are NOT a hybrid population between Caucasoids and Australoids. In reality, the vast majority of Indians are an admixed population between Caucasoids and Mongoloids — except in this case, the Mongoloids are most similar in phenotype and genotype to SE Asians like the Thai. According to the latest research, the average Indian is at least 75% Caucasian and 25% Asian — these figures have been substantiated by multiple reports, including the National Geographic Project’s Geno 2.0 DNA ancestry test samples, the 23andme test samples, and even the Reich et. al paper published in the highly-cited/high impact factor scientific journal Nature. It has been conclusively proven that South Asians/Indians range from 5-10% Asian to 35% Asian, or in other words, from 65% Caucasian to 95% Caucasian. The most Caucasian people are from the northwest of the Indian subcontinent, and the least Caucasian people are from the east and south. Only one person broke the magic 35% barrier, and he was a Bangladeshi (38%). If you’d like a layman’s interpretation of the data in the aforementioned sources, check out this article by Razib Khan, one of the pioneers in the field of population genetics, particularly as it pertains to the archaeogenetics of South Asia as a whole — he writes articles for Discover Magazine, which is a well respected source. He is also a PhD student at UC Davis. Here is a post describing the general findings of genetic research into South Asian populations: http://genomesunzipped.org/2011/02/guest-post-by-razib-khan-my-personal-genome.php
In addition to the Reich et. al paper, and other landmark papers in this field, the Harappa Ancestry Project (link to the project: http://www.harappadna.org/2012/05/harappaworld-admixture/), which is helmed by a genetic expert, and is working in combination with Reich’s data, is also another landmark study into the archaeogenetics of South Asia. It has conclusively proven and further substantiated the results I aforementioned. According to the samples collected by the project, there is a sharp correlation between Caste/Location and Caucasian ancestry in India, with the upper castes in all parts of India being significantly more Caucasian in nature than the lower castes, and the North-West Indian/South Asian upper Castes being the most Caucasian of all — up to 95%. All of the North-West Indian/Pakistani/Nepali/Afghani upper castes are between 5-18% admixed with East Eurasians/Mongoloids; in other words all of them are between 82-95% Caucasian. These castes would include the Rajputs, Jatts, Khatris, Gujjars, Sindhis, Brahmins, Bhumihars, Balochis, Brahuis, and certain upper caste Punjabis, and Pathans. Note that this is only applicable to the upper castes aforementioned that are in the North and North-West of India, as well as Pakistan and Nepal. As for the rest of India (and Bangladesh/Sri Lanka), as I mentioned earlier, the average South Asian is 75% Caucasian and 25% Asian, so a good amount of South Asians are more Caucasian than 75%, and a good amount are less Caucasian.
For instance, the average Tamil (from South India, and well represented in the diaspora in the USA as the “typical Indian” stereotype) is 33-34% non-Caucasian, and the average Bengali/Bangaladeshi is closer to 55-60% Caucasian. The dalits of Tamil Nadu (also well represented in the States) or the lowest caste Tamils, are at least 40% non-Caucasian. The lowest castes of India, the Chamars, who are found all over India, (also in the States) are also in the 50-60% Caucasian range. Upper Caste Indians in the rest of India (apart from the North-West) tend to be 70-80% Caucasian. If you’d like to see the data for yourself, here is the link to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l87nGSIYTP-h7m-VKjB-BZcuEoWdz765nU4f_krOdd4/edit?pli=1#gid=0
For reference, the “South Indian” component is 50-60% Caucasian, and the ANE/NE Asian component is 45% non-Caucasian. The SE Asian, Siberian, Papuan, American and Beringian components are all Mongoloid in nature, and the E African, San, Pygmy and W African components are all Negroid in nature. Keep in mind that the data here is accurate only for South Asians, other regions are too under sampled in the project.
Now you might be wondering, if South Asians, particularly the upper castes in the North and North-West, are between 5-18% admixed, are they alone in this predicament? As I alluded to earlier, they are anything BUT alone. Lets start with Middle Easterners and Northern Africans. Egyptians, Moroccans, Libyans, and other North Africans are on AVERAGE, 15% Black/Negroid admixed. In fact, according to the latest research, the average North African is 15-16% black, and individual countries like Egypt and Tunisia are 18-21% Black on AVERAGE — so some would be MORE than 21% black, some less. The highest admixture is found among Moroccans and Berbers who can be up to 30% Black/Negroid admixed ON AVERAGE. As far as the Middle East goes, Yemeni people have been shown to be 18-19% black ON AVERAGE, and the Bedouin tribes have been shown to be 16-18% Black on average as well. Qataris are 12-16% Black, and Saudi Arabians range from 14-18% black as well, on average. Jews, particularly the Ashkenazim, have also been shown to be 16.5% admixed with Mongoloid and Black/Negroid on average. So on average, MENA people are 75-85% Caucasoid and 15-25% Black/Negroid admixed, therefore its safe to say that MENA people are Caucasoid-Negroid hybrids, with some groups being more Negroid than Caucasoid. All these figures have been collected by National Geographic and many other researchers, but I’ll give you a link to the Nat Geo data here: https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/category/raceethnicity/central-asians/
As far as West Asians/Central Asians are concerned, they show significant amounts of Mongoloid admixture on average.Tajiks have 15% Mongoloid admixture on average, while Turkmens have 16% Mongoloid admixture on average; However, some groups of Turkmen average 27% Mongoloid, and some are 35 – 56% Mongoloid. Southern Turkmens on average are only 1/8 to 1/3 Mongoloid or better said 13-31% Mongoloid. However in some parts of Turkmenenistan, like the Northern and Eastern parts, the Mongoloid DNA reaches 33-55% Other parts of Turkmenistan are 33-55% Mongoloid. Even Turkish many people are 10-20% Mongoloid, and 15% Mongoloid on average. Iranians are also Mongoloid admixed — up to 10% on average, with the Azeris of Iran being even more admixed. Tatars are 16% Mongoloid admixed on average. So, its safe to say that most West Asian groups are a hybrid of Mongoloids and Caucasoids, with some leaning more towards Mongoloid, and being on average, 80-85% Caucasian, and 15-20% Mongoloid, with some groups being much less Caucasian and much more Mongoloid.
Now, lets look at the European data. All non-Sardinian Europeans have been shown to have significant amounts of ANE ancestry due to the Malt’a boy mentioned earlier, and this ANE ancestry is related to/is the same as ASI ancestry in South Asians, relating Europeans to Amerindians and East Asians. The ANE component is composed of 45% Mongoloid and Australoid-like ancestry (similar to the distant relation that some South Asians have to proto-Australoids), and the Malt’a boy also has a proto-Australoid ASE component on the order of 10%.
This ANE component peaks in the Karitiana Indians of South America: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EiT2DbpCI90/VA5ZPZgLHmI/AAAAAAAABVI/iSDLST-Boic/w1001-h199-no/Table_S14.12.png
More info about ANE’s relationship to ASI is available at this link: http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-tangled-web-of-humanity.html
Which itself references this landmark paper: http://www.genetics.org/content/early/2012/09/06/genetics.112.145037
It is also pertinent to point out the fact that ANE ancestry in all Europeans with the exception of Sardinians (who have very minor ANE ancestry) is mostly (45-55%) non-Caucasoid in nature, and DOES NOT include SEPARATE, ADDITIONAL East Asian ancestry that is due to much more recent admixture with Mongoloids due to the Golden Horde and other admixture events. ANE or NE Asian is best thought of as very ancient Asian admixture, while the recent admixture is added separately. A recent landmark paper definitively showed a clear signal of admixture in Northern Europe, represented by the ANE/NE Asian component. Here is the link to the paper: http://www.genetics.org/content/early/2012/09/06/genetics.112.145037.abstract and here is a link to the layman’s explanation of it: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/across-the-sea-of-grass-how-northern-europeans-got-to-be-10-northeast-asian/#.Ve77Xs44JNY
What this paper definitively shows (as do successive papers recently released after it) is that Europeans, especially Northern Europeans, have huge amounts of NE Asian, also known as ANE, admixture. This is because they are descended in part from an Amerindian population. What is the actual amount? Well, remember that ANE or NE Asian is made up of two components — one is Caucasian in nature and related to Levantine ancestry, and the other is related to NE Asia/Siberians and the American Indians, peaking in the Karitiana Indians of South America. Therefore,
according to the research data in the latest papers, Northern Europeans are 5-18% admixed with Mongoloids, or in other words, Northern Europeans are 5-18% Non-Caucasoid, and the authors pointed out that this is actually a conservative estimate, one that is lower than what the actual value is likely to be — which is purported to be even higher than the 5-18% range, easily crossing over into the 10-20%+ non-Caucasoid range.
Keeping in mind that in Europe, among Lezgins and Chechens and Ossetians. ANE is in the 23-27%+ range, this means that other Eastern Europeans, not residing in Northern Europe, are also heavily admixed with non-Caucasian ANE ancestry as well. The ANE ancestry is 45% East Asian/Amerindian in composition, and 10% SE Asian in ancestry, so 55% non-Caucasian and ANE ancestry ranges from 8-21%+ in almost all Europeans except Sardinians. A table with ANE scores from a recent paper: http://i.imgur.com/R70lWOG.png Remember how I mentioned earlier that this ANE non-Caucasoid ancestry did NOT include additional, more recent, non-Caucasoid East Asian ancestry? Well lets take a look at that data as well. Russians and Finns, are 80-88% Caucasian depending on the person (NOT including non-Caucasoid ANE admixture, which would make them even less Caucasoid) because of much more recent East Asian admixture and the areas with the higher non-Caucasian mixture in the 12-20% range is around Leningrad and other areas around Russia. Finnish people, according to the latest genetic study, are AT LEAST 13 to 17% East Asian, and Russians, according to the latest genetic study, are 12 to 18% East Asian. More info here: https://genetiker.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/mongoloid-admixture-in-russians/
Lithuanians and Swedes are at least 10%-20% admixed with recent East/Mongoloid mixture. If we add this recent Mongoloid admixture to the more ancient ANE ancestry in Europeans, we get the following numbers: Russians and Finns and Swedes are 17-30% Mongoloid/Non-Caucasoid and 70-83% Caucasoid. Because of this, Finns have been found to be distinct from other Europeans and don’t cluster as close to them. Russians in the North are much the same way. Therefore we can sum up the above with the following three sentences:
Proto West Eurasians + ANE/ASI-like = Europeans and Latin Americans
Proto West Eurasians + ASI /ANE-like= South Asians and Central and West Asians
Proto West Eurasians + African = Middle Easterners and Northern Africans
And since everyone in these regions can be as much as 30% non-Caucasoid due to either Mongoloid or Negroid ancestry, (but closer to 20-25% non-Caucasoid) Indians are definitely not alone in being admixed Caucasoids on this planet. They are actually part of the norm, being on average, 75% Caucasian and 25% Asian, So the next time you present Indians as being unique in being admixed, or Europeans as being unique in being pure, think again — for that has no basis in reality. The data clearly shows that Indians are as admixed as other Caucasian groups throughout the world, and in some causes, purer, particularly in the case of the upper Caste North and North-West Indians, who are at most, 18% admixed or less, and thus 82-95% Caucasian.
You know what. All this overall IQ thing is absolute non-sense. Serbia scores around 89 overall IQ as per this (https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country)
What would you call Serbians ? Mixture of Caucasoid and some Australoid to explain their low IQs.
Second worse thing about IQ testing is that results are heavily biased on brain speed. If you solve in 10 minutes v/s 20 minutes, you will get 30 points higher. But does that make you intelligent ?
I will give an example. In Singapore and Malaysia, Indians were brought in randomly and they did not migrate as top 0.01 pc of Indian Americans (I will come to this later).
At both these places, Indians outperform Malays. And the difference is not just 1 or 2 pc.
Rather, in Singaporean schools.
Singapore school results: http://www.amp.org.sg/edisi/data/Publications/3rd%20Convention%20Journal/Section%205%20-%20Education.pdf
Graph 5: Percentage of students with at least 5 O-level passes.
1985: India: 52 pc, Malays: 38 pc, Chinese: 68 pc. (no smart migration).
No smart migration occurred before 1985. Those Indians were brought in as workers by Britishers. Rather, most of them belong to lower caste diaspora.
On language exams, lowest caste Indian diaspora outperform both Malays and Chinese.
The question arises, why do Malays score 92 overall IQs.
Well, Malays have a brain speed of 355 ms vs 380 ms.
Rather brain speeds of East Asians is about 348 ms and South East Asia suffers from slight Negrito admixture.
So, all these East Asian and South East nations will score higher on timed contests.
PISA 2009 results:-
East Asian nations:-
Japan: 529, Korea: 546, Chinese-Taipei: 543, Shanghai: 600, Hong Kong: 555, Singapore: 562, Macau-China: 525.
Major European nations:-
Russia: 468, USA: 487, Canada: 527, UK: 492, Germany: 513, France: 497, Finland: 541, New Zealand: 519, Australia: 514, Netherlands: 526, Belgium: 515, Switzerland: 534, Spain: 483.
These scores reflect nothing and only reflect that East Asians can think faster. On relaxing the timings:-
Russians who score 468 on some non-sense exam requiring faster brain outperform all/entire world on programming contests.
PISA scores, India: 350, Thailand: 419. On relaxing the timings, you can see the performance of Indian pupils in Singaporean schools vs Malays which is far superior.
Verbal SAT scores by race (page 4, table 1, males) :-
Indians: 539, Whites: 519, Koreans: 432, Other Asian Americans (South East Asians): 373, Chinese: 477, Japanese: 516.
Whites as per US government includes mid-East and North Africa.
Brain speeds:- Indians: 380 ms, Whites: 368 ms, East Asians : 348 ms, South East Asians: 355 ms.
Despite having much faster brains, East Asians and South East Asians rank nowhere on critical thinking. Rather the data is taken on people living in USA and English proficiency is same for most people. Even second generation East and South East Asians who grow up in 100 pc English environments rank very low on Verbal SATs or critical thinking.
South East Asians are supposed to score at least 60 points above whites as they have (355 ms brain speed vs 368 ms for whites). Yet they score 146 points below.
East Asians are supposed to score at least 100 points above white norm due to faster brains, yet they score below. Only Japanese come close despite having much much faster brains (348 ms vs 368 ms).
And rather Japanese are mixed race with equal Mongoloid-Australoid DNA and are not classified as East Asians by genetic researchers.
Even US university applicants from East Asia (who prepare 4-5 months for verbal SATs) score below average white American living on the streets.
The difference is so big that in Singaporean schools, Indians and even people who are considered “untouchables in India” or “mentally retarded” outperform East/South East Asians on language exams (English and Mandarin) showing that they can think better. East Asians do not outperform Indians, Europeans and mid-East on language skills at all.
They can score higher if the exam is a timed exam where the scores for Indians, mid-East and Europeans will be heavily suppressed due to slower brain speed. Like how they score higher in some places in UK, where exams are timed exams.
On relaxing the timings as in verbal SATs, East Asians will score much below. If you relax the timings even further, East Asians will figure nowhere in the graph.
Why is verbal SAT required ?
80 verbal SAT IQ points is required to invent a religion. Indians invented a religion 4000 years back (Hinduism), Jews invented a religion 3500 years back (Judaism), whites invented 2000 years back (Christianity), Arabs invented a religion 1000 years back (Islam). East Asians never invented a religion.
Hence, India crossed over 80 IQ mark on quality of thinking 4000 years back, Jews crossed it 3500 years back, whites crossed it 2000 years back, Arabs crossed it 1000 years back. Humans have been growing on intelligence or verbal thinking linearly since then.
As per data in graph above (readjusting for speed of thinking), Verbal SAT IQ:- India: 125, Jews: 122, Whites: 100, Muslims: 90, East Asia: NA.
Further proof that India is most verbally evolved race on this planet.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/6/why-indian-americans-dominate-spelling-bees.html
Indians are winning all spelling bees in USA. Ashkenazi Jews are supposed to win all spelling bees as they are or were perceived to have the highest verbal thinking. Why are Indians winning spelling bees and earning at par with Ashkenazi Jews in USA.
2. European success over India and mid-East:-
PISA 2009 maths results:-
UK: 492, India: 350.
Indians are supposed to score 80 points below UK, readjusting for brain speed difference. In real terms, India is 60 points below UK on maths (10 IQ). If they can cover up on maths, they can overtake them. East Asians do not have much chance.
UK is ahead of India and mid-East on mathematical thinking. Hence, European line of thought was more mathematical and scientifically concrete v/s only philosophical and religious thought for India v/s no thought for East Asia.
How powerful is high verbal SAT:-
Indians finding it too easy in Europe, USA. Most of Indians migrated as taxi drivers or low paying jobs to UK and USA and have taken over large parts of UK and USA.
1. UK:-
Indians have taken over large parts of Britain, financially and politically; commanding Whites in Europe. Read this report below:-
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/2066401/Lord-Archer-Indians-are-the-new-Jews-and-are-taking-over-Britain.html
2. USA:-
Indians are about to cross-over Ashkenazi Jewish salaries in USA. And they will also increase in number in USA.
“Jews are the highest earning religious group in the United States, with 46 percent of the working population earning a six-digit figure every year, according to a study released this week. In terms of annual earnings, the only other group to even come close to the average Jewish income was the Hindus, with 43 percent earning over $100,000. ”
Source: http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Poll-Jews-highest-earning-religious-group-in-US
3. University GPA in USA:-
(https://research.collegeboard.org/sites/default/files/publications/2012/7/researchreport-1988-11-predictors-achievement-asian-american-white-students.pdf)
Table 2, males:-
Japanese: 2.68, Chinese: 2.86, Indian: 2.92, White: 2.72, Korean: 2.72.
Indian/Pakistani men scoring much higher GPA in US university system than Koreans, Chinese and Japanese. Smartest immigrants from Korea, China, India and Japan study in US university.
Immigrants from Korea and Japan performing below average white american (random white man living on the streets) on GPA. All this is due to poor Verbal SAT score of Koreans and Japanese. Rather exams in US university systems are very strict on timings. On relaxing the timings, all East Asian nations will get even lower GPA in US university systems.
And even higher GPA is because they are good at maths and can excel in exams.
On advanced courses requiring high verbal SATs, East Asians immigrants to USA are scoring below average white man living on the streets on GPA. Same with salaries in USA where Indians are earning at par with Ashkenazi Jews. East Asians are earning at par with average white man living on the streets.
Now, coming back to 0.01 pc argument of Indian Americans. Firstly, they do not measure 110 IQ. It is just an estimate based on their performance which is far better than Ashkenazi Jews. Indian Americans have never participated in any such IQ testing.
Population of Indian American is 3.1 million. Population of India: 1.2 billion.
3.1 million/1.2 billion = 0.25 pc.
So, even if the smartest Indians have migrated. It cannot be 0.01 pc as maths does not fit in.
Then, 65 pc of India’s population is between 0-25 years and above 50 years of age and cannot migrate. Imagine a 5 year old kid scoring high on IQ testing and USA poaching it to USA. Is USA taking 5 year old Indian kids as well.
Wait, even in UK Indians have taken over most top positions, financially and politically.
So, people who are available to migrate are 420 million in number. 3.1 million have migrated. So, lets assume they are absolutely the best that is 0.75 pc of India has migrated to USA. Then top 0.75 pc of India is earning at par with Ashkenazi Jews. Or top 1 pc of India.
As per the link above, only 18 pc of white families in USA are earning above 100,000 USD v/s 43 pc of Indian families.
Most of the Americans are earning high money via property or other assets that they have. Indians come as poorest ethnic group in USA and are settling as richest ethnic group.
Rather, only one third of 18 pc US families earning above 100,000 USD are earning via technical fields.
Hence, top 6 pc of Americans are earning at par with Indian immigrants to USA.
Average Indian American salary:- 127,000 USD. Average American salary: 57,000 USD.
So, top 1 pc of India is at par with top 6 pc of America on intelligence as per the salary reported.
Secondly, how are “Indian taxi drivers in New York” selected for intelligence. Is there any IQ tests for taxi drivers ?
Then, many times people who do not get jobs in India go to US for masters to have a career. How would you explain those people (supposed to be medium intellect migration) outperforming Ashkenazi Jews ?
On edulix, most users who search for education programs in USA are from low ranked colleges. even university applications in USA are mostly from medium ranked colleges. If they are outperforming Ashkenazi Jews, then it is over.
”Second worse thing about IQ testing is that results are heavily biased on brain speed. If you solve in 10 minutes v/s 20 minutes, you will get 30 points higher. But does that make you intelligent ?”
Very very very very good point.
You know what. All this overall IQ thing is absolute non-sense. Serbia scores around 89 overall IQ as per this (https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country)
What would you call Serbians ? Mixture of Caucasoid and some Australoid to explain their low IQs.
Second worse thing about IQ testing is that results are heavily biased on brain speed. If you solve in 10 minutes v/s 20 minutes, you will get 30 points higher. But does that make you intelligent ?
I will give an example. In Singapore and Malaysia, Indians were brought in randomly and they did not migrate as top 0.01 pc of Indian Americans (I will come to this later).
At both these places, Indians outperform Malays. And the difference is not just 1 or 2 pc.
Rather, in Singaporean schools.
Singapore school results: http://www.amp.org.sg/edisi/data/Publications/3rd%20Convention%20Journal/Section%205%20-%20Education.pdf
Graph 5: Percentage of students with at least 5 O-level passes.
1985: India: 52 pc, Malays: 38 pc, Chinese: 68 pc. (no smart migration).
No smart migration occurred before 1985. Those Indians were brought in as workers by Britishers. Rather, most of them belong to lower caste diaspora.
On language exams, lowest caste Indian diaspora outperform both Malays and Chinese.
The question arises, why do Malays score 92 overall IQs.
Well, Malays have a brain speed of 355 ms vs 380 ms.
Rather brain speeds of East Asians is about 348 ms and South East Asia suffers from slight Negrito admixture.
So, all these East Asian and South East nations will score higher on timed contests.
PISA 2009 results:-
East Asian nations:-
Japan: 529, Korea: 546, Chinese-Taipei: 543, Shanghai: 600, Hong Kong: 555, Singapore: 562, Macau-China: 525.
Major European nations:-
Russia: 468, USA: 487, Canada: 527, UK: 492, Germany: 513, France: 497, Finland: 541, New Zealand: 519, Australia: 514, Netherlands: 526, Belgium: 515, Switzerland: 534, Spain: 483.
These scores reflect nothing and only reflect that East Asians can think faster. On relaxing the timings:-
Russians who score 468 on some non-sense exam requiring faster brain outperform all/entire world on programming contests.
PISA scores, India: 350, Thailand: 419. On relaxing the timings, you can see the performance of Indian pupils in Singaporean schools vs Malays which is far superior.
Verbal SAT scores by race (page 4, table 1, males) :-
Indians: 539, Whites: 519, Koreans: 432, Other Asian Americans (South East Asians): 373, Chinese: 477, Japanese: 516.
Whites as per US government includes mid-East and North Africa.
Brain speeds:- Indians: 380 ms, Whites: 368 ms, East Asians : 348 ms, South East Asians: 355 ms.
Despite having much faster brains, East Asians and South East Asians rank nowhere on critical thinking. Rather the data is taken on people living in USA and English proficiency is same for most people. Even second generation East and South East Asians who grow up in 100 pc English environments rank very low on Verbal SATs or critical thinking.
South East Asians are supposed to score at least 60 points above whites as they have (355 ms brain speed vs 368 ms for whites). Yet they score 146 points below.
East Asians are supposed to score at least 100 points above white norm due to faster brains, yet they score below. Only Japanese come close despite having much much faster brains (348 ms vs 368 ms).
And rather Japanese are mixed race with equal Mongoloid-Australoid DNA and are not classified as East Asians by genetic researchers.
Even US university applicants from East Asia (who prepare 4-5 months for verbal SATs) score below average white American living on the streets.
The difference is so big that in Singaporean schools, Indians and even people who are considered “untouchables in India” or “mentally retarded” outperform East/South East Asians on language exams (English and Mandarin) showing that they can think better. East Asians do not outperform Indians, Europeans and mid-East on language skills at all.
They can score higher if the exam is a timed exam where the scores for Indians, mid-East and Europeans will be heavily suppressed due to slower brain speed. Like how they score higher in some places in UK, where exams are timed exams.
On relaxing the timings as in verbal SATs, East Asians will score much below. If you relax the timings even further, East Asians will figure nowhere in the graph.
Why is verbal SAT required ?
80 verbal SAT IQ points is required to invent a religion. Indians invented a religion 4000 years back (Hinduism), Jews invented a religion 3500 years back (Judaism), whites invented 2000 years back (Christianity), Arabs invented a religion 1000 years back (Islam). East Asians never invented a religion.
Hence, India crossed over 80 IQ mark on quality of thinking 4000 years back, Jews crossed it 3500 years back, whites crossed it 2000 years back, Arabs crossed it 1000 years back. Humans have been growing on intelligence or verbal thinking linearly since then.
As per data in graph above (readjusting for speed of thinking), Verbal SAT IQ:- India: 125, Jews: 122, Whites: 100, Muslims: 90, East Asia: NA.
Further proof that India is most verbally evolved race on this planet.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/6/why-indian-americans-dominate-spelling-bees.html
Indians are winning all spelling bees in USA. Ashkenazi Jews are supposed to win all spelling bees as they are or were perceived to have the highest verbal thinking. Why are Indians winning spelling bees and earning at par with Ashkenazi Jews in USA.
2. European success over India and mid-East:-
PISA 2009 maths results:-
UK: 492, India: 350.
Indians are supposed to score 80 points below UK, readjusting for brain speed difference. In real terms, India is 60 points below UK on maths (10 IQ). If they can cover up on maths, they can overtake them. East Asians do not have much chance.
UK is ahead of India and mid-East on mathematical thinking. Hence, European line of thought was more mathematical and scientifically concrete v/s only philosophical and religious thought for India v/s no thought for East Asia.
How powerful is high verbal SAT:-
Indians finding it too easy in Europe, USA. Most of Indians migrated as taxi drivers or low paying jobs to UK and USA and have taken over large parts of UK and USA.
1. UK:-
Indians have taken over large parts of Britain, financially and politically; commanding Whites in Europe. Read this report below:-
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/2066401/Lord-Archer-Indians-are-the-new-Jews-and-are-taking-over-Britain.html
2. USA:-
Indians are about to cross-over Ashkenazi Jewish salaries in USA. And they will also increase in number in USA.
“Jews are the highest earning religious group in the United States, with 46 percent of the working population earning a six-digit figure every year, according to a study released this week. In terms of annual earnings, the only other group to even come close to the average Jewish income was the Hindus, with 43 percent earning over $100,000. ”
Source: http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Poll-Jews-highest-earning-religious-group-in-US
3. University GPA in USA:-
(https://research.collegeboard.org/sites/default/files/publications/2012/7/researchreport-1988-11-predictors-achievement-asian-american-white-students.pdf)
Table 2, males:-
Japanese: 2.68, Chinese: 2.86, Indian: 2.92, White: 2.72, Korean: 2.72.
Indian/Pakistani men scoring much higher GPA in US university system than Koreans, Chinese and Japanese. Smartest immigrants from Korea, China, India and Japan study in US university.
Immigrants from Korea and Japan performing below average white american (random white man living on the streets) on GPA. All this is due to poor Verbal SAT score of Koreans and Japanese. Rather exams in US university systems are very strict on timings. On relaxing the timings, all East Asian nations will get even lower GPA in US university systems.
And even higher GPA is because they are good at maths and can excel in exams.
On advanced courses requiring high verbal SATs, East Asians immigrants to USA are scoring below average white man living on the streets on GPA. Same with salaries in USA where Indians are earning at par with Ashkenazi Jews. East Asians are earning at par with average white man living on the streets.
Now, coming back to 0.01 pc argument of Indian Americans. Firstly, they do not measure 110 IQ. It is just an estimate based on their performance which is far better than Ashkenazi Jews. Indian Americans have never participated in any such IQ testing.
Population of Indian American is 3.1 million. Population of India: 1.2 billion.
3.1 million/1.2 billion = 0.25 pc.
So, even if the smartest Indians have migrated. It cannot be 0.01 pc as maths does not fit in.
Then, 65 pc of India’s population is between 0-25 years and above 50 years of age and cannot migrate. Imagine a 5 year old kid scoring high on IQ testing and USA poaching it to USA. Is USA taking 5 year old Indian kids as well.
Wait, even in UK Indians have taken over most top positions, financially and politically.
So, people who are available to migrate are 420 million in number. 3.1 million have migrated. So, lets assume they are absolutely the best that is 0.75 pc of India has migrated to USA. Then top 0.75 pc of India is earning at par with Ashkenazi Jews. Or top 1 pc of India.
As per the link above, only 18 pc of white families in USA are earning above 100,000 USD v/s 43 pc of Indian families.
Most of the Americans are earning high money via property or other assets that they have. Indians come as poorest ethnic group in USA and are settling as richest ethnic group.
Rather, only one third of 18 pc US families earning above 100,000 USD are earning via technical fields.
Hence, top 6 pc of Americans are earning at par with Indian immigrants to USA.
Average Indian American salary:- 127,000 USD. Average American salary: 57,000 USD.
So, top 1 pc of India is at par with top 6 pc of America on intelligence as per the salary reported.
Secondly, how are “Indian taxi drivers in New York” selected for intelligence. Is there any IQ tests for taxi drivers ?
Then, many times people who do not get jobs in India go to US for masters to have a career. How would you explain those people (supposed to be medium intellect migration) outperforming Ashkenazi Jews ?
On edulix, most users who search for education programs in USA are from low ranked colleges. even university applications in USA are mostly from medium ranked colleges. If they are outperforming Ashkenazi Jews, then it is over.