Commenter JS wrote:
Liberals would never respect an East Indian guy, the same with the male members of the East Asian category or a White guy from the right, conservative camp, who are all seen as enemies to the liberal establishment and their legions of black minions. It all really boils down to competition of the higher IQ groups. A lot of these individuals of these groups also dislike blacks, because they are being “propped up” without innate substance.
Liberal whites probably dislike East Asians and also South Asians because their success seemingly confirms the conservative narrative that America is not a racist country and that minorities can succeed if they pull themselves up by their boot straps.
Also, Asians and South Asians are very hard working. Liberals hate hard workers.
Also as JS is perhaps implying, Asians and South Asians compete with white liberals for elite jobs. White liberals prefer their minorities poor and dependent so white liberals can get the ego boost of being their savior. Asians and South Asians don’t need white liberals to save them and white liberals resent it.
Also white liberals probably resent the fact that Asians and South Asians are not liberal enough. Their attitude is probably “us white liberals made it possible for non-whites to even have basic rights. How dare you not vote Democrat with virtual unanimity?”
Making matters worse, as JS implies, a sizable number of Asians and South Asians don’t like blacks. In the case of South Asians, this may be because of the caste system in India which values light skin. But while South Asian racism against blacks is largely cultural, I believe East Asian racism against blacks is genetic. I believe humans evolved to hate people who are genetically distant from themselves because these have fewest of their genes. North East Asians and sub-Saharan Africans are the two most biologically distant peoples on the planet so the two are genetically predisposed to not get along.
But when white liberals see South Asians and East Asians hating on blacks their attitude is “how dare you be racist against blacks! You’re not so white yourself!”
All of these factors create tension between white liberals and East/South Asians.
Here’s a clip of white liberal Michael Moore arguing with CNN’s Sanjay Gupta. You can feel the tension even in how Moore pronounces “Gupta”.
Another example of tension between white liberals and South Asians was when Roseanne Bar was talking to Deepak Choprah on an episode of one of Bill Maher’s talk shows. Roseanne wanted to talk about the economy and Choprah started lecturing about the importance of spirituality. Finally Roseanne barked “everything you just said plus $40 could be buy me a tank of gas!”
It was clear she had no respect for his ancient Indian spiritual wisdom, especially during tough economic times.
they hate strivers of all races. white strivers, aka, Republicans, they hate the most.
trying is bad taste. like caring.
I remember when I was a very little girl, our house caught on fire.
I’ll never forget the look on my father’s face as he gathered me up
In his arms and raced through the burning building out to the pavement.
I stood there shivering in my pajamas and watched the whole world go up in flames.
And when it was all over I said to myself,
“Is that all there is to a fire?”
Is that all there is?
Is that all there is?
If that’s all there is my friends
Then let’s keep dancing
Let’s break out the booze and have a ball
If that’s all there is
Liberals believe that wealth is natural, something that can’t be worked for but the result of high iq. They are Calvinists in that regard.
I guess that’s why the financial and software/start up industry is an ally of the democrats.
Welfare liberals, the type of liberal that posts on NYT and other leftist sites, actually tend to believe the opposite: that people get rich not through IQ or innate ability ,but though some unfair environmental advantage and that costly and useless social programs are necessary to bridge the achievement gap, which is really an IQ gap.
it’s not that liberals are against “hard work”. they’re against the interpretation of this phrase by obedient, pushy strivers.
everyone is capable of working long intense exhausting hours if they care, if they like what they’re doing.
the stereotype of the white Republican and the S and NE Asian is a grind/drone who works himself like a slave because he’s boring, stupid, and obedient not because he likes what he’s doing.
this stereotype, like ALL stereotypes, has a basis in reality.
losing to someone at a game you don’t like playing or have no talent for isn’t irritating.
losing to someone because he acts like a worker bee and not like a human being is irritating.
whoopie.
bgi just sent my genome!
took them long enough.
Does it talk about any genetic variants related to IQ that you may or may not have?
no. the study isn’t even close to being finished. it’s years away accordinf to the e-mail. my password doesn’t even work yet and they say it will take them 21 days to upload my data to the “hive cloud” and that i was lucky as they still haven’t sequenced half the volunteers.
and will my data just be ACGCTA…? idk. i’ll have to figure out to analyze it myself.
i only volunteered to get my genome. maybe i’ll find out i’m part black or native american or jewish 😉
but shoe has already backed off any expectations of results. the sample size is too small. he says he’d need a million genotype/phenotype pairs from the regular population. i doubt the high testers will take that dwon to 2500 or however many are in the study.
and remember the BGI volunteers are from around the world not just from one country and one social stratum and one race.
The funniest moment on Steve Hsu’s blog occured when Steve wrote something like “parents of gifted kids tend to be pretty sharp themseleves. I wonder why? ;-)”
And then you replied something like “I wonder too. Seeing as IQ has a heritability of less than 0.2”
And then your comment got deleted. LOL!
Hilarious that you, who claims to have such high test scores, has devoted your life to attacking anyone who thinks IQ is highly genetic. You would think you’d be doing the opposite.
But human motives are complex.
lewontin, gould, steve jones, steve rose, lord winston, biologists all, that is actual sicentists and not psychologists all dismiss behavior genetics as ridiculous and malicious.
what’re their motives?
steve jones isn’t even a jew.
N N Taleb said:
[in 2036] what is now called academic economics will be treated with the same disrespect that rigorous (and practical) minds currently have for Derrida-style post-modernist verbiage.
the same will (i hope) be true of behavior genetics as well.
read Crazy Like Us.
Dude,
You’re too autistic to realize that those gentile scientists are too autistic to realize they’re being manipulated by the Jews.
Jews are smart. They plant the seed and they let useful idiot Gentiles like you take over.
dude,
you’re too autistic to realize i don’t realize that.
are you over twelve?
You’re lucky I don’t work at that particular lab otherwise I’d be all over your DNA looking not for IQ alleles but for gay ones. Contrary to Cochran, I suspect homosexuality has a certain genetic component.
I guarantee if I walked into a room you were in, yours would be the only male head not turning. 😉
But then you know all about male head.
if the young marlon brando were only 4 inches taller. that’s me.
but i’m thinking Kate, if she isn’t actually a dude, looks like this:
Chinese don’t like Blacks?
How about “Go East, Young African!”. http://www.unz.com/pfrost/go-east-young-african/
They don’t seem to hate them too much, although they don’t quite see them as equals either.
I suspect East Asians have an innate tendency to dislike blacks because I think humans evolved to dislike people who are different from them but this tendency can easily be overwhelmed by culture
Kudos to you, Pumpkin, if you’re a black person who quotes my observations and insights, because you seem to agree with me.
I try to speak the truth.
When groups of people are dedicated to par excellence and overachieving endeavors, their hatred of American Liberals and their black minions become very strong and apparent, and vice versa.
In regards to East Asians and their dislike of Africans, many of them seem to share similar facial phenotypes with each other, more so than those of Whites. Is there a connection? Chinese coolies intermarried with carribean blacks in Jamaica in significantly larger numbers than those of White settlers. It seems like every Jamaican black has a drop of Chinese. Just look no further to Jayman. It’s probably a combination of mainstream culture and the poking of certain hot points that blacks and East Asians are diametrically opposed to each other in a country such as America. If our nation was agricultural with a less dynamic and simplistic economy, I would say everyone would be on a similar note (which one finds in Jamaica).
I was reading up how some Chinese rural areas are beginning to see mixed mulattoes in their communities, due to African immigrants living in China. Perhaps in more simplistic worlds (East Asia has both very primitive rural areas and modern cities), blacks and East Asians would get a long better, where blacks has less potential to modernize themselves, and East Asians who have such potential, but are stuck with blacks in the same mode of existence.
Also, American blacks would be the lowest denominator among all black folks, given the legacy of slavery, America’s cultural inferiority, and its ironic, but extremely dynamic society, where groups with higher IQs and social networks can exploit fully with given success (just look at American Ashkenazi Jews). Such an environment are not afforded to blacks, especially to black americans.
I doubt Pumpkin is black, but any thing’s possible. Jayman’s black. HBD Chick is female.
its true that tendency 😦 how come Korean or other Asian dramas are not usually broadcast in non-Asian countries, but I also believe there is hope, me and many other non-Asians enjoy that stuff in online streaming, plus some Korean shows were hits in Caucasians countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sri Lanka.
During the LA riots in the 1990s there was lots of inexplicable tension between blacks & Koreans. Pumpkin might be right; that it’s genetic.
There is a Korean deli here in NYC near where I’m at, where they hire racial minorities. They once had a black girl who work for them. It appears she only lasted for a week.
blacks are the for most part a liability, and a lost cause.
blacks are overrepresented as corporate retail outlet employees where they live, because these businesses pay extremely low wages, and the work they do is under less scrutiny, had they worked in a small business environment or corporate function that requires higher IQ.
I believe the chinese are the least discriminatory, least hateful, most sociopathic and most opportunistic race.
While the chinese do look down at blacks, they wouldn’t lynch them, like whites would.
The funny thing is indians are overwhelmingly democrat and yet the two indian governors are republicans and the biggest indian pundit is conservative dinesh d Souza.
I suspect liberals hate indian men as they represent the ultimate patriarchy.
I also suspect Indians are disliked by Jews because they mirror Jews in the exact same way except for being conservative.
The mannerisms between Indians and Jewish immigrants are the same. Nerdy, short, verbose, neurotic, bad with women, status whoring, assimilation seeking, motherland lacking, foreign feeling, tradition loving idealists.
The republicans are eager to accept Indians because they think indian talent will do for the republicans what Jews did for fdr. The republicans lack that high verbal niche that the democrats used to win elections.
de souza? is that a Portuguese name?
he’s a Catholic. not much of an Indian or Paki or whatever.
S Asians will have greater prominence poltically and commercially in the US than NE Asians because:
1. they look more European
2. from my experience, unlike NE Asians, they don’t have the “marbles in the mouth” problem. (at the highest level of verbal combat NE Asian Americans seem as if they must have weighed-in heavier than they actually were.)
3. they aren’t as pushy, shallow, and obedient. this because they have an anti-materialist religious tradition.
Heidegger said, “When the French think they think in German.” with less exaggeration it may be said, “when the NE Asians think, they think in Sanskrit.”
D Souza is a forcibly converted by Goa Portuguese Inquisition, former Goa brahmin
East Indians are pushy in their own unique ways, more of a polite pushiness, let’s talk and talk nicely, until we all agree. Ashkenazi Jews are forcibly aggressive and the most pushy of all the overachieving groups. Being pushy in America pays off, as if Jews already knew of their predicament, which translates into big success. East Asians seem to be the quite the contrary, they’re obliging!
Interesting comparison between Indian Americans and Jewish Americans. Also, they both have the highest IQs of any American ethnic group.
So you are not black!
I took SC’s word that you’re black, because he’s a smart commentator here.
Jayman’s blog is just random noise, and since he consider himself “black” (despite his White and Asian ancestry), he blog reflects what a schizophrenic black person would write in their blog, which is a lot incoherent non-sense. For example, he asserts black men and asian women are the most desired due to their high respective hormonal components, a study based on some internet online dating experiment. Do you believe this?
For example, he asserts black men and asian women are the most desired due to their high respective hormonal components, a study based on some internet online dating experiment. Do you believe this?
No, I don’t believe that. I think white men and white women are the most desired. But Jayman’s right if he’s implying that black men are the most masculine and East Asian women are the most feminine.
I believe the chinese are the least discriminatory, least hateful, most sociopathic and most opportunistic race.
I think you are referring to the wild form of the mongoloid race, who are the Mongols and their huge empire, where they unleashed unspeakable violence on their subjects.
I’m referring to today’s chinese. They aren’t led by ideologies unlike seemingly every other race. They don’t need a god to tell them not to steal or work hard.
You are right that the older chinese were probably as brutal as the Romans because they managed to Chinese ize huge groups of aboriginals (like in Taiwan). China is unified under one script just like Europe under the Romans and implies massacres.
“Chinese-ize”
maybe “Sinofy”.
The left resents the success of China’s strong post-Communist economy and the rise of its entrepreneurial upper class. The left is constantly predicting China’s doom, that their economy is a bubble and rife with corruption.
Indians dislike blacks because
1) Indians own 7-11 stores and many drive taxis and get robbed by blacks
2) darker skin is a strong marker of lower caste
Sandeepa Dhar, Aryan high caste brahmin
untouchable dravidian
3) Indians have a stratified view of society and view people by the average behavior of their ethnicity – the low education, high crime rate of blacks puts them at the bottom
Indians vote democratic because
1) conversion to islam or christianity is grounds for being outcasted
Apostates like Nikki Haley or Bobby Jindal are viewed as disgraceful Uncle Tom, would rather vote for a white christian than an apostate Hindu or Sikh
2) The republican party is anti-Hindu – neither Nikki Haley or Bobby Jindal would be elected if they had not apostated
3) The republican party is heavily involved in sending christian missionaries to India to convert Hindus and is deeply disliked for that
4) lots of Republican party leaders openly make nasty remarks on Hindu religion
3 weeks ago in Idaho
Three Republican lawmakers in Idaho refused to attend the state Senate’s daily invocation because it was being given by a Hindu guest chaplain
Idaho state senator Nuxall ( Republican ) also called Hinduism a false religion – I doubt that any Republican would be so openly diss any other religion
5) the most popular US politician among US Indians is Tulsi Gabbard, a non-Indian Hindu, half-white, half Samoan. democrat Hawaii.
If your genetic distance theory is correct, you’d see tons of Australoids hating Blacks and also Pacific Islanders hating Blacks. I’m not sure if these things are common occurences.
none of pumpkin’s theories are correct.
Genetic distance is deliberately measured using selectively neutral DNA in order to measures chronological distance (splitting dates) not functional distance.
So even though australoids are chronologically very distant from sub-Saharans, they are arguably racially black in the sense that they’ve genetically preserved the sub-Saharan phenotype.
Scientists used to understand this in the 19th century. In some ways we’re going backwards. Dysgenics?
Agree with everything here but crucially, and this is the most important reason why whites discriminate agaibst asians but worship blacks….
Black people are socially a lot more intelligent. They are far more charismatic. They are atheltically fit. They have good humour. They dress well. And white liberal women, gays and feminist find many sexually attractive.
That ,I think, is the unvarnished truth you should write if your blog is really about hbd and not rationalising why liberals dislike them politically.
Its social value. And sexual market value.
The biggest public investments by colleges in the last 20 years have been in locker rooms and stadiums. Not laboratories and libraries.
Think about what that says about human nature.
Blacks have the most distant features and hair. They look too distant. Blacks are definately not the most attractive either. Dont fool yourselves. No race in history mentioned sub saharans as being physically attractive or admired them in any way imaginable. Egyptians were caucasoid. South asians are very fast too , especially south indians. And the chinese and japanese have always been very athletic. The reason the left prefer blacks is because of the earlier mentioned reasons. The left and jews can make anyone or break anyone. Nothing special about blacks in that sense. Blacks are not more socially intelligent , lefts like them more , because they are beneath the left and never a threath to the power of the left. Most blacks dont even understand that they are just used as a tool to the left. Black priviledge serves a pupose. The left like people who they can control and who are dependant. Blacks were slaves so they receive priviledges and the left can hold up the illusion of a society based on equallity. And hold up the illusion of a non racist society while the left hate and dislike south and east asians. Because those are strivers and achievers and this hurts their ego. Racism against asians is legal , the left actually encourage it. Harold and Kumar etc etc. The left created a pro black society and anti asian society. People are brainwashed from their childhood.People are conditioned into mainstream thinking , this is a very subtle strategy very well thought out by the left and the jews. South asians dont dislike blacks because of the cast system , because blacks dont look like dark skinned indians. They dont resemble indians in any way , not even dark south indians , who look the same as high casts but with a darker complexion.Actually all indians have the same genes. Ghandi refered to the black man as the ‘raw kafir’ and gave his opinion about the black race in several quotes. The dislike for blacks is also genetic in indians , not cultural. Australian aboriginals and papoua do not like sub saharans either , and these somewhat resemble them in a way.
I am a white liberal and I like East Asian and South Asian people.
PP is talking on average.