A question that has long puzzled thoughtful people is “why are Jews so liberal?” Entire scholarly books have attempted to answer the question. Since 1928, the average Jewish vote for the Democrat in American presidential elections has been an incredible 75%—much greater than that of any other ethno-religious group. So committed to liberal ideals are some American Jews that one even traveled all the way to Sweden and argues for multiculturalism in that country she’s not even from, even as she insists Jewish liberalism is creating more antisemitism in Europe:
So how do we explain such a passionate commitment to liberalism by people like Barbara Lerner Spectre? Like African Americans, Jews are a historically oppressed minority, and historically oppressed minorities vote liberal, however Jews are now an extremely wealthy demographic, and wealthy people tend to become more conservative, so that doesn’t quite explain it.
One possible explanation is IQ. According to research promoted by the prestigious New York Times, Ashkenazi Jews are genetically much smarter than other Americans. High IQ people tend to be more liberal, especially relative to their income levels; I’ve proposed four major reasons why this happens.
Could high IQ be somehow causing Jews to become more liberal? High IQ seems to make people more morally aware, open-minded, and abstract in their thinking; all traits that might increase the odds of embracing liberal ideals. The average Jewish IQ is genetically quite high, and some, like Barbara Lerner Spectre, would be even more intelligent still, and these would be especially liberal.
Of course I’m not suggesting high IQ is the only explanation for Jewish liberalism, or even the most important one, but it is a variable that is typically overlooked.
Persuing self interest in a more indirect and disguised way. No regard for people who can’t just move to Australia and get a highly paid job at a newspaper. There are many explanations that have nothing to do with morality and consideration for others. Some jews even say they want Israel to become multicultural, they say it, and when it happens I’ll believe that they meant it.
it only helps.
Jews are also liberal because they aren’t Europeans and therefore were themselves on the periphery of Western civilization for all but the last 100-200 years.
“ghetto” originally referred to a quarter of town where all the Jews were required to live.
so they are sympathetic to other “outgroups”. AND they see promotion or preferment of other outgroups as being a means of defeating the power of the ingroup and thus gaining power themselves. at elite American universities this is actually policy. white gentiles are discriminated against in favor of Jews and any non-white. at one time ALL THREE of HYP’s presidents were Jews.
and they know that white conservatives HATE them.
libertardians are not conservatives. they’re just naive, immature nerds or sociopaths. don’t let them confuse you.
you’re extremely naive pp. the world isn’t like chess. it doesn’t have rules that every one plays by, but some better than others. Jews CHEAT.
The Chinese cheat, too.
The Chinese cheat, too.
That’s true but not the way most people think. Jews have a higher average than white gentiles and chinese have higher average than most asians. Jews and chinese are both harmed by affirmative action. But a lot of the affirmative action burden is transferred to other whites and asians with lower averages. However, studies are also very clear that the affirmative action burden is predominantly born by poor whites. With poor Asians being 6 times more likely and poor blacks being 10 times more likely to be accepted as poor whites with equivalent grades, test scores, etc.
Source: No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal: Race and Class in Elite College Admission … By Thomas J. Espenshade, Alexandria Walton Radford
American whites must be the greatest suckers on the planet. They had it all, are now being chewed on from both ends of the societal spectrum, and most of them cheer it on. I wonder if such a thing has ever happened before in history, would be interesting to learn about.
No, I mean specifically, they cheat. And unlike Jews, they cheat gracelessly.
I know anecdotal evidence isn’t saying much, but from my personal experience on both liberal and conservative boards (huffgingtonpost, national review, etc) conservatives tend to be better read about history and policy and produce more scholarly posts, whereas liberals tend to invoke vacuous leftist platitudes and incantations. If low IQs are linked to poverty and, as shown below, poorer people vote liberal, one can surmise that liberalism is more highly represented among those with low IQs than conservatism. http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/business/Earn%20vs%20Vote.png Look at Communism (especially Maoism and ), a group far-left ideologies specifically designed to appeal to poor, uneducated people.
Liberals aren’t more moral than others. Well, as every populations , to liberals, there are their own diversity. The average liberal tend to have similar dogmatic moral codes, like conservatives. ( blasphemy) The problem is not morality, is ( Always) the incapability to be really good. To be good is not same to be a sucker. To be good is to be fair. It needs higher intelligence. Ashkenazim jews vote en masse to demo-cratic party in USA and in every ‘socialist’ party around the world, also because oligarchy collectivism is their collective cultural-evolutionary strategy to compete with others people. Different situation happen in Israel. But i like apolonian-mercurian peoples hypothesis. If neuropolitics are right, regions with higher demographic density like cities, prefer or select to cooperative people ( smart) to mitigate conflicts. Sometimes i see liberalism as aberrant taoism, beautiful in paper, disastrious and quasi-impossible in real life, only if human population was substituted by wise human sapient specie.
But i also already thinkig in this hypothesis, but always is little bit complex.
About “intelligence” “of” “jews”, “iq” doesn’t substitute and explain a more than 500 expulsions of jews. Commit a mistakes one time is completely normal because is part of learning, but commit the same mistakes many times is stupidity. I see jews as collective force that compete with european gentiles. This competition produce innovations. A tenuous balance. When jews or europeans win, the balance is broken, like schizophrenia is to John Nash. This co-evolutive competition emulate own life, the conflict of two opposite forces, that produce energy.
Jews are no where innovative when compared to Europeans.
Look at Steve Jobs, who’s half Arabic and half German, and he came up with Apple Computer. No Jew in America has come close to him in technological creativity.
I don’t know about it. I think ashkenazim jews tend to be very creative, compared with other groups, but european caucasoids overcome them.
Ashkenazim are not creative relatively comparing. But they are very good in dominating certain “parasitic” industries. Hollywood would be their best creative output, and it’s not very good to say the least.
I see jews as collective force that compete with european gentiles. This competition produce innovations. A tenuous balance.
Santo Occulto – I hope you don’t think is really true, because Jews cannot compete fairly and equally with Christian based Whites. Only in multicultural nations with a lot of resources (built up mostly by Christian based Whites), is where they can cheat and use their parasitic profile for personal gain. That’s why they love multicultural societies. Further, Jews lack the diversity in talent, when compared to Euros.
The average Jewish IQ is genetically quite high, and some, like Barbara Lerner Spectre, would be even more intelligent still, and these would be especially liberal.
Actually, what you find is that the smartest people tend to be libertarian. You’ll find the percentage of liberals increases with IQ. But at no point do liberals comprise a majority. And certainly not to the extent Jews are.
Jews tend to live in large cities on the east and west coast. People who live in large cities tend to be more liberal. As well as the east and west coast being more liberal as well. A better comparison would be to other white who live in those cities.
There are also polls showing Jews dislike Christians, in general, and evangelicals, in particular, who tend to be conservative. But that’s a “chicken or the egg” conundrum. Do they dislike Christians/Evangelicals because they’re conservative? Or are they less conservative because of the association with Christians/Evangelicals? Either way, you’ll notice it’s mostly less religious Jews who are liberal. Observant Jews are just as conservative as secular Jews are liberal. There’s something complicated and interesting going on there with ethnicity and religion. I’m not completely sure what.
Only a very multicultural and often lower IQ nation without a political unity, such as the United States is where Jews thrive. Continental Europe doesn’t miss the Jews at all. Just because a few German Jews were talented and influential, doesn’t make case for Jews to return to Germany. German gentiles were and are far more productive than Jews by a 1000 times.
I look at a city such as NYC, my hometown, and the most productive people in the cultural realm are NOT Jews, but White Europeans. Jews dominate the financial, legal and media services and become rich from them, where they use their money to consume all the good things made by White people, essentially Jews are parasitic. No Jew in NYC runs a top restaurant or produce great stuff. They just enter industries that sucks money from others and produce nothing in return.
but Israel in 70 years has gone from third world to 25th in per capita GDP PPP.
Buffett bought an Israeli cutting tools company. there’s little more productive/value creating/unglamorous than cutting tools. ISCAR.
so to be fair part of the explanation for Jewish dominance of finance and media/entertainment is that these are more fun and thus more competitive than real work. remember Brave New World’s Cyprus. sometimes being a crook takes more intelligence than being a refrigeration technician.
but as noted by Unz and Nisbett their higher mean IQ simply can’t explain the Jews level of over-representation in various fields.
of insider trading indictments in the 80s all were Jews.
Actually, what you find is that the smartest people tend to be libertarian. You’ll find the percentage of liberals increases with IQ. But at no point do liberals comprise a majority. And certainly not to the extent Jews are.
Clearly IQ alone can’t explain Jewish liberalism, but it likely plays an important role
Observant Jews are just as conservative as secular Jews are liberal.
Within all ethnic groups, high IQ likely causes both secularism and liberalism, and then secularism likely causes even more liberalism.
Jews tend to live in large cities on the east and west coast. People who live in large cities tend to be more liberal. As well as the east and west coast being more liberal as well. A better comparison would be to other white who live in those cities.
Even if such a comparison were done it would be hard to interpret. Does moving to the city make people liberal or does liberalism cause people to move to the city? Or does high IQ cause both? And of course people tend to acquire the politics of others they associate with, so smart/educated people will tend to be liberal simply because other smart/educated people are liberal. But that doesn’t explain how they became that way in the first place.
higher IQ does not mean secularism. it used to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence
Actually the higher the IQ, the more secular:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395972/Atheists-higher-IQs-Their-intelligence-makes-likely-dismiss-religion-irrational-unscientific.html
actually you didn’t read my link.
Handedness pattern can help to explain.
Libertarians only seem to be smarter because libertarianism is a specific philosophy as compared to ‘conservatism’ or ‘liberalism.’ If you broke down ‘liberalism’ to include such categories as ‘marxist,’ ‘communist,’ etc. you’d probably find they were much smarter than average too.
libertarianism is many things but a philosophy it isn’t.
all government expansions have been in response to crises. that is, they have been responses to large and long lasting problems which laissez-faire was NOT solving. one can argue too much was done and that regulations and taxes are onerous, but libertarian is just another word for nerd or douche bag.
further technical and medical progress is impossible without government funded research.
d’s claim that higher IQs are libertarians comes from some poll of a high IQ society. high IQ societies are composed exclusively of people with low IQs.
Well, they believe they are a political philosophy. The only point is that the ability to understand and follow certain types of dogma acts a barrier to entry. Anyone can understand enough to be a Democrat “liberal” or a GOP “conservative.” Less can understand — regardless of the merits — belief systems like objectivism or libertarianism or anarchism. Less still seem to understand Rawls, if HBDers are any indication.
you know Zizek had a great critique of Rawls. Rawls is nice in theory, but human nature makes a Rawlsian politics impossible. I can’t find the quote. this is a much weaker version.
Rawls himself, when he was confronted with his critics, admitted one thing: that his model of distributive justice, the difference principle etc, works on one fateful condition: that there is no resentment. That is to say, given the way we are libidinally structured in modern societies, envy and resentment are crucial. Rawls doesn’t take into account the irrationality of envy.
Jews tend to live in large cities on the east and west coast. People who live in large cities tend to be more liberal. As well as the east and west coast being more liberal as well. A better comparison would be to other white who live in those cities.
Italian and Irish American Catholics who live in those large cities tend to be conservative, and they vote more on the Right and not left. In fact, most White groups do not exhibit the liberalism in large numbers found among Jews. Also, Jews for the most part did not build the infrastructure in those cities, much of the hard work were done by Whites. Jews are just parasitic in nature. They are overrepresented as lawyers, financiers and media writers.
Rupert Murdoch is a gentile.
It is believed he has Jewish ancestry. His mother is an Anglicized Greene with roots from limey land.
“High IQ seems to make people more morally aware, open-minded, and abstract in their thinking; all traits that might increase the odds of embracing liberal ideals.”
Studies show that liberals actually rate very, very low on 3 of 5 primary values ie. purity, loyalty and respect for authority. In fact, how one rates on those 3 largely determines whether one is a liberal or conservative. On the two values that conservatives and liberals both value (care and fairness) they do not define those terms the same way, although they both value them according to their different definitions. Even then, liberals aren’t true to their own definitions of fairess and caring.. And, in fact, donate much, much less money to charity than conservatives
On page 287 of The Righteous Mind Dr Haidt describes a study in which liberals, moderates and conservatives are all asked to answer a serious of questions on various issues as if they were both liberals and conservatives. Conservatives and moderates are both able to do this but liberals are not. Instead, liberals believe that conservative views are based solely on being “stupid” and/or “evil”. Those are in quotes because those were the words liberals used. The more liberal one was the more they thought this. Liberals think this because, as mentioned above, they lack the full range of values. If you’ve ever seen one of the picture tests used to test for color blindness, people who are colorblind can’t see the picture because they can’t see all the colors. This ties in with the earlier discussion about liberals rating very low on 3 of 5 primary values. Since they don’t have those values they’re unable to understand why others hold different views from them.
Never imagine this way. I think most liberals think for example, to do a bad thing to a good cause. Like here in Brazil, ”socialist” government corruption is less problematic for many them because this government take million people from extreme poverty (to create a ” permanent cattle of voters”-)
anyone who identifies as a liberal or as a conservative is a moron. the psychology of people with IQs < 50 is boring.
what the hell is “purity”?
loyalty and respect for authority aren’t values except for evil people.
it’s was this thing called The Great War don’t ya know.
over the top boys.
and conservatives can’t be Christians then ’cause it’s in the Bible.
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
one is an authority for me or for you because we’ve learned to trust it. authority which is imposed should be hated and ridiculed. those who obey are sheep. without such respect the Holocaust and the Purges and all wars would never have happened.
respect for authority = “Heil Hitler!”
Do you think the genocide in Rwanda, one million people in one week, happened because of authority forcing people to slaughter. If so, it would have taken a year at least. It’s very banal to claim that war would not take place were it not for evil leaders.
For Unger, the market, the state, and human social organization should not be set in predetermined institutional arrangements, but need to be left open to experimentation and revision according to what works for the project of the empowerment of humanity.
this is a description of Mangabeira Unger, but it is also a description of Popper and Soros.
the best government isn’t that which governs least or most. the best government is the one which works, and no one knows what works and what doesn’t until they try it. therefore,
the best government works for “gross national happiness”, longevity, etc., and can change in response to changing circumstances and failed policies.
the problem with all theories of social science is that human societies change especially as a result of technology, whereas the laws of nature are constant, they don’t vary from one time to another. and as Soros has remarked so many times, social science theories, unlike natural science theories, actually influence the very phenomena they are proposed to describe, that is human behavior. so they are always necessarily “incomplete”.
Europe won’t survive unless it commits suicide???
this is why people hate Jews.
this woman is pure evil.
Jews are basically Anglos. They’re just a continuation of the Anglo Colonialsphere and no more.
and Israel? mustn’t it too become multicultural or not survive?
how can the Jewish state survive unless it ceases to be Jewish?
and will Jews be at the center of that?
Jewess in vid—I must help to kill Sweden or Sweden won’t survive.
it’s got ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with liberalism pumpkin. this woman just wants Jewish world domination.
idk if this man is a hater, but everything he says here is true. there is an appreciable segment of Jews who hate Europeans and will never be satisfied until they rule the world. they’re nearly there.
of course this guy is an idiot.
he pronounces “et cetera” as “excedrin”.
but…
On the wechsler intelligence scale, subjects are NEVER penalized for poor grammar or pronounciation; only the substance of their answers are scored
This could be a very difficult item on the WAIS comprehension subtest: “Why do some Jews promote multiculturalism so passionately?”
His answer “because they want revenge” would be scored zero on substance because nobody can afford revenge . Motives tend to be about the future, not avenging the past
it’s pretty common but is a red flag you’re an idiot.
et cetera is pronounced /et seteruh/
espresso /espresO/
but the above is the “ecclesiastical” pronunciation. the “Roman” (wAnee, weenee, weekee) pronunciation is /et keteruh/.
so in neither is it /ekseteruh/.
both the stupid pronuciations interpose a /k/ between the /e/ and the /s/.
yet another reason why tests like the SAT, ACT, LSAT, GMAT, GRE are better than some self-described IQ tests.
there’s no subjective element. the tests are scored by machine.
an example:
it may happen from time to time that in answering one of the verbal question the examinee gives an answer which is superior to the one suggested by the test maker, but the examiner is too stupid to see this.
whereas on the SAT type of test one is given only so many choices and even though he may recognize that the “correct” answer is incorrect, he can still recognize it as better than any of the alternatives and thus he answers “correctly”.
Pp, having higher verbal than spatial iq makes one more stereotypically feminine, ie more compassionate, empathetic , impractical, and idealistic.
While Jews are predisposed to liberalism because of their high iq, they use idealistic reasons to justify it. On the other hand, wasp liberals are more pragmatically liberal or libertarian.
A Jewish liberal talking about gay marriage will use emotional ideals about fairness and equality. Non Jewish liberals, like Michael Moore use facts and figures.
This is why we see few Jewish leaders while Jewish intelligentsia are a dime a dozen. The crafty/businessman Jew is just as much of an oddity among Jews as Jews are among the general population.
Not necessarily liberal economically though pumpkin. Liberalism is basically neitzshes dictim of the weak using “morality” to seize power from the blond beast.
I would speculate nietzsche may even have meant the jewish gentile scenario in his mind but he names the samurai and romans as blond beasts too.
The principle still holds however.
Personally liberalism is not a bad ideology as ideologies go. Its populist economic strain is good but the social engineering component will discredit it.
Wealthy Jews are actually very liberal. And liberal, because their gains are from liberal oriented industries and liberal cities. Jews are successful, not because they think conservatively. Quite the contrary. Very ambitious people think big, and that’s the opposite of being conservative.
And speaking of cities again:
In NYC, what separates Jews and let’s say Italians in success, is that Jews at least put on facade of doing business with everyone, where as Italians stick with a particular group or racial group. And I spoke about Jewish immigrants living among Italian immigrants, similarly, they also live near Asians, specifically the Chinese, and look what Jews have done in America, and look what the Chinese have done, or you could also make a comparison of what blacks and Hispanics have done, because they also live near the Jews, but that’s a no brainer.
If you ever get a chance, downtown NYC has a neighborhood, where Jews, Chinese, blacks, Hispanics and Italians call home. The Jews were once lower class, now upper middle class or wealthier, surrounded by lower class Chinese, Hispanics, and an entire welfare dependent class of blacks. Most of the Italians have left their area for the other areas like the suburbs, where wealthy non-ethnic based Whites have moved in.
And this relates to HBD, tribalism and testosterone and IQ. Despite the Chinese being a high IQ group, they fail miserable if you compare them to their Jewish neighbors, who are more tribal, self serving and most important, prone to act and get what they want.
Wealthy Jews are actually very liberal. And liberal, because their gains are from liberal oriented industries and liberal cities. Jews are successful, not because they think conservatively. Quite the contrary. Very ambitious people think big, and that’s the opposite of being conservative.
Jews are liberal partly because they are trying to undermine whites. Most tax payers are white, and many tax recipients are non-white. Further, liberals support open borders, multiculturalism and gays, which also undermines traditional white society.
Notice how Jews are only liberal in Western countries. In Israel, they’re right-wing fanatics.
Very ambitious people tend to be liberal. Jews are known for their megalomania, in essence, megalomaniacs need to be liberal. Democrats are more afflicted with megalomania than PubicCunts.
israelis operate on mostly on self preservation, while Western Jews are megalomaniacs.
Actually Western Jewish liberalism started out as a form of self-preservation, and still is for a lot of them. Jews thrive in multi-racial societies.