From an early age, I always knew I was head and shoulders above everyone else when it comes to math. I didn’t always get the best grades because I lacked the technical training, but I always had an intuitive understanding that can’t be taught. It was just something I was born with.
I remember in the tenth grade getting a very poor grade on a math test, and yet the teacher said “I was VERY impressed by some of your answers. VERY impressed.” There were people who got over 80% on the test, but partly because they memorized formulas and the proper format. By contrast my score of around 55% was entirely earned through innovative creative problem solving and inventing my own formulas, and this teacher could see it. All my life there have been these seers who recognized my potential.
But then there are the non-seers:
One of the worst parts about becoming the math star of the HBD blogosphere is you attract jealous haters, particularly a commentator named First Ypres/Mugabe who is bitter that he never accomplished anything in life despite being an aristocrat who allegedly scored perfect on all three sections of the old GRE, and he has decided to take out his anger on successful proles like me, all night, every night. Unfortunately for him, he fucked with the wrong prole.
In a recent tirade against me, he abusively argued that there are zero people who score both +2 Z scores on the SAT (IQ 130+) and less than 0 Z score on the Raven test (IQ below 100). He wrote:
you’re the one who’s obsessed with the model’s fitting extreme outliers.
i’m the one who’s saying it DOES NOT.
the model says NOTHING about people who don’t make any effort. NOTHING.
that was the point.
but you’re too autistic to grasp it.
THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 0 KIDS WHO SCORE +2 ON THE SAT AND < 0 ON THE RAVEN'S.
Actually he's 100% wrong. Such people DO exist as scatter plot C from an excellent study by professors Detterman and Frey of Case Western Reserve University shows:
On the post 1995 SAT, a combined score (reading + math) of 1350+ is roughly 2 standard deviations above the general U.S. population (IQ 130+) and the chart clearly shows people above that level scoring below a Z score of 0 (IQ 100) on the Raven.
So despite the fact that First Ypres/Mugabe allegedly scored perfect on all three sections of the old GRE and got an IQ equivalent of 160 on the older (pre-1995) harder version of the SAT, and despite having Harvard/Princeton ancestors and allegedly being a participant of Steve Hsu’s BGI genetic study of the super brilliant, he doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about.
The moral of the story is, no matter how smart or educated you think you are, don’t fuck with me when it comes to math.
My numbers will be better than yours.
sadistic bully is CORRECT.
stupid people don’t know they’re stupid.
is suppose you weren’t sitting the ole SoA exam 100 when I did.
got high score in US and Canada.
I always had an intuitive understanding that can’t be taught.
aka
stupid people don’t know they’re stupid.
peeepeee is big pimpin’.
It’s a pretty minor point and muggy wasn’t wrong on the model. He was saying the model just didn’t accurately capture reality.
and I from my end, I can’t even see the supposedly dispositive graph.
i’m not kidding.
it just says: “Remote Linking Forbidden.”
but as I’ve said if the supposed fit includes people like Cosby who apparently just gave up, then it’s a bad fit and the model says nothing about such people including the Cos.
You should be able to see it now
so I saw one point at SAT 1500 and Raven’s below 100.
gotta cry conspiracy here.
I DON’T BELIEVE IT.
stat crux dum volvitur orbis peeepeee.
drink a bottle of Chartreuse and you’ll understand.
so I saw one point at SAT 1500 and Raven’s below 100.
And don’t forget all the SAT scores above 1350 (+2 SD; IQ 130) and Raven below 100.
douchenozzle,
I also maxed the GMAT and the GRE subject test in chemistry and the ACS exams in p-chem, inorganic, and organic chem.
me smart.
you dumb.
IT’S SCIENCE!
You’re a very loyal friend Swanknasty. And God knows Mugabe could use one now.
Of course swanknasty and mugabe are friends. They wear the same socks and underwear and use the same toothbrush. gnomesain?
gnomesain…?
i’m too stupid to know what that means.
gnomesain
LOL! Good one! And totally above First Ypres head.
swank and Mugabe and revolver are all distinct people.
just like Denmark, Sweden, and Norway are RICH RICH RICH countries with
GINORMOUS governments.
when the facts don’t agree with libertardians/Aspies they just hide in their shells.
so totally above that it’s meaningless.
maybe it’s
gnome-sain?
or is it some riff on the “African-American”..
know what I’m saying?
whatever it is, it’s stupid and prole.
destructure at least gives us insight into how him and male friends in the nightlife operate, nahmean.
Lol objectively it’s minor. The only thing you’ve got the guy on is maybe maybe mild hyperbole.
Severe hyperbole
You wrote a blogpost crowing about how in fact x does exist against an opponent who is arguing outside the accepted paradigm to begin with and who understands the accepted paradigm.
I can’t see the plot but even if it shows what you say it does, this blogpost speaks more to your desire to beat him than anything else
I can’t see the plot
You need to click on it.
No wonder you two are friends 🙂
I have no idea who “Swanknasty” is.
except that his IQ is at least 30 points higher than peeepeee’s.
Wtf? This emotional outburst and three Cosby articles in a row make you look like a nut. This blog has outlived its usefulness in talking about iq and has turned into a circlejerk about bill cosby, mugabe, racism and republicans.
Getting emotional over high school statistics. Geniuses, all of you.
Lol be fair….they’re college statistics
One of my colleagues is on vacation so I’ve been too busy with work to post anything substantive, but the substance will return soon.
but there was never any substance to begin with.
but there was never any substance to begin with.
I was talking about my posts, not your comments.
so comedy does require a high IQ.
I haven’t learned an interesting thing on this blog since your first article in September.
pp is a black lesbian with a moustache.
what’ya expect?
Perfect comment, thanks!
Pumpkin seems very young, need mature (and i need learn english, mature my english #)
I’d be interested in pumpkin following up on IQ and risk taking.
I win!
peeepeee can own me all day long…
she still won’t have a penis.
I win!
of course pp’s just one example.
but she makes it clear that Canadians make the Redlegs look like royalty.
if anything peeepeee has just proved:
1. the Raven’s is a super shitty IQ test.
2. Jensen’s skull was mostly shit with only a little brain.
Jensen-tard claimed the Raven’s was the best measure of the mythical g AND culture fair.
that’s the same Raven’s which Bouchard found had an h^2 among his twins of only .56.
WUNDERBAR!
we’re all living Amerika, Amerika, it’s wonderbar…
as the Mystic of Messkirch said, philosophy is Greek and German.
the son of a professor…really!
gooooooal!
The post 1995 SAT doesn’t really test IQ though. Is the .72 correl between post 1995 SAT and raven’s?
oh I see, they used the 1995 SAT. might want to link to the abstract or something.
lol, is he wrong?
‘the “proof” is that there are in fact no such kids.
that is, provided they’ve had 11-12 years of education in an American school and that they actually made an effort on both tests.’
right.
if the Cos just said f— this then peeepeee claims his Raven’s would 95% of the time be between whatever and whatever.
’cause the bivariate normal distribution is the one thing the “hard core” atheist pp believes in
Which means the plots don’t show what pumpkin thinks they show.
I wonder how you quantify effort, though
Everyone in the study put in effort. They were college kids; thus academically ambitious, and they agreed to be in the study.
like I said…
I DON’T BELIEVE IT.
Pumpkin that’s an assumption and you know it. A simpler explanation for wildly divergent scores is unequal effort.
Pumpkin that’s an assumption and you know it. A simpler explanation for wildly divergent scores is unequal effort.
Effort is never equal. What’s your point?
What do you think the distribution of effort looks like ?
the point is…
as usual…
that effort is NOT continuous.
one makes an effort or he doesn’t.
if one makes NO effort then his score is MEANINGLESS.
but pp would like to say it IS meaningful nonetheless,
AND
that he has a 95% CI derived from his Platonic form the bivariate normal distribution.
peeepeee is QUITE religious for a hard core atheist.
Pumpkin,
Macaca is not a sadistic bully. He’s just a boozy troll. A sadistic bully you might have to punch in the face to put him in his place, but you can just tweak a boozy troll’s nose and get his eyes to water.
Don’t take him too seriously. Either have fun with him or ban him – as nearly everyone else in the HBD blogosphere has done. But don’t focus on him like he’s a person who matters. He doesn’t deserve that kind of attention.
I’m a Bajan Redleg
just gimme some rum.
and it’s all cool!
the HBD-sphere is…
without exception…
clueless racist morons.
so far Martini, Cockring, Shoe, etc. haven’t shown that they’re up to the level of revolver or swank, let alone moi ;).
You’re just a souse with a dead poodle who’s suffering from delusions of grandeur. Nothing more.
no delusions of grandeur.
that’s where the religion comes in.
the answer to Hegel’s desire for recognition isn’t Hegel’s.
it’s that such a desire is despicable and prole.
Don’t take him too seriously. Either have fun with him or ban him – as nearly everyone else in the HBD blogosphere has done. But don’t focus on him like he’s a person who matters. He doesn’t deserve that kind of attention.
I’m not going to ban him, but if he’s going to post here all the time, he needs to be educated & others can get educated in the process. It’s a win-win!
He is educable. He’s not as confused as he was when he first came.
peeepeee suffers from
paranoid delusional disorder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder
in addition to profound mental retardation of course.
He’s not going to be educated, Pumpkin. By you or anyone else.
By all means, have fun with him. I certainly do. But drop the pedagogical aims. You’ll have more success teaching his dead poodle how to roll over.
my dead poodle would hump your leg…
AND YOU’D LIKE IT!
How would anyone be able to tell it was your dead poodle humping their leg and not you?
“Either have fun with him or ban him – as nearly everyone else in the HBD blogosphere has done.”
Everyone else was right. I clipped his wings after about 2 days. It would be one thing if he were arguing in good faith. But he’s just being silly and throwing slop. His goal is to suck the oxygen out of the room. I warned pumpkinhead a long time ago to get rid of him. Now he’s turned his blog into a joke with petty bickering. Which was exactly what he wanted. Like the old saying goes — argue with a fool long enough and you can’t tell the difference.
PS: He’ll keep coming back using proxy / sock puppets. Pumpkinhead needs to adjust his comment settings so that the first comment has to be approved. Ross might sneak one past him every now and then but it will put an end to his crap.
crap to a coprophrage is…
sweet sweet juicy figs, olives, meat, whatever.
Destructure,
I generally agree. But some bridges need a troll to provide a little sport for the locals. If Pumpkin wants to keep his site a ban-free zone, I can understand and appreciate that. There are plenty of other sites in the HBD world where you can go for polite and intelligent conversation.
I just think Pumpkin shouldn’t focus so much on Macaca. He’s fun to tease, but he’s also a repetitive idiot.
i’m the one man who’s ever made peeepeee wet, and she hates for it.
but to me peeepeee is just a…
CHIMP.
Pinky and d haven’t taken a math or biology course since middle school.
the only teasing they do is of themselves.
but they’re too retarded to know it.
besides…
Pinky’s just lookin’ to hook up with any dick he can.
Macaca,
I had more pussy than you’ve had in your life by the time I was sixteen – at least if you’re not allowed to count your family members.
It’s true, pinky’s house is full of cats
Try your luck with physical comedy, Swank. Verbal humor clearly ain’t your forte.
Your cat palace is tragedy, spunky, not comedy.
What’s tragic is your low-grade verbal humor, Swanky. Pussy for cats? Good God, why not just steal a few good jokes?
Have none of my lessons today taken hold?
Spunky that you keep your faith despite the hairball festooned lair you call a home is inspiring. Good god indeed.
Then again who else is going to bring a cat lady like you the dick you so clearly crave
but “sadistic bully”?
what a compliment.
and it’s clear from that graph that there’s some ceiling to the Raven’s.
a long long time ago…in a galaxy far far away…I bought an supposed IQ test at a software store…so I was pretty young…there aren’t any software stores anymore are there?
anyway. it was the Raven’s. a timed Raven’s. the claim was I scored 130 something. but the ceiling was 140, and the one I missed was bullshit.
whatevs
And the test probably had outdated norms so the actual ceiling was probably 130 which means your actual IQ is 120 something.
Your SAT/GRE score is probably a huge overestimate of your ability since you come from an extremely high social class; the opposite of Bill Cosby who was underestimated by the SAT because of his low social class.
And deep down you probably realize this, which is why you’ve devoted your life to arguing IQ tests are culturally biased.
With 160 on the SAT, your expected Raven would be 0.72(160 – 100) + 100 = 143
95% confidence 122 – 164
Lol so being wrong consigns one to lower IQ status? I’m not saying that he’s wrong either, I’m just saying that this whole infallible IQ cult thing is funny
MUCH MUCH more likely was that the whole test was bullshit and made up such that everyone would score near the ceiling.
but it takes a non-autistic person to see this.
anyway…
1. Bouchard found a super-pathetic heritability for the Raven’s.
2. Jensen claimed the Raven’s was the best measure of the mythical g and culture-fair.
hey when I was a 9 year old atheist I thought Jensen was the cat’s meow too.
then…
let’s see…
hmm…
I developed!
but it takes a non-autistic person to see this.
You’re too autistic to know what takes a non-autistic
she said whilst finger banging to a horror movie.
horror movies = prole.
pumpkinhead — Don’t believe his claims regarding his social class or IQ just because he says it. The only evidence he’s produced is of his mental illness. Do yourself a favor and get rid of him. You’ll lose 95% of your comments… and it will be worth it.
The smarter & higher class he claims to be, the smarter i look when I correct his math 🙂
Stop to use ”autistic” adjective as offense. You should visit wrong planet, politics, philosophy session, to see and read some about ”autistic intelligence”. But i have agree with most about ”dogmatic liberal autistic” ones, the most desilusional and pedantic ever.
there is such a thing as autism,
but one of the,
among the innumerable,
problems occasioned by, one of the most evil men who ever lived, Abraham Lincoln,
is this:
as Uncle Joe might’ve said…
NO SOUTH. NO PROBLEM.
the LEAST covered story in all of HBD is the…
PRODIGIOUS birth rate of southerners…
AND
their moving out of the South…
AND
colonizing the rest of the US.
SOUTHERNERS = COCKROACHES.
AND IT’S SO FUNNY BECAUSE HBDERS ARE ALMOST ALL SOUTHERN HICKS.
RETARDED SOUTHERNERS HAVE MADE AMERICA A SHITHOLE.
Word autism is not exist, but the biological meaning of word autism there.
In true, autistic people seems only ones who really like to learn. Intrinsically.
Cachaça’s the only liquor which disagreed with me…
were there more regulation…
it wouldn’t be so.
libertardians:
Say it ain’t so, Joe.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoQRnMBelzGsNCAY5_e5-5gqo9bANN1eZwYK6phzgEAJUJhean
I have stopped reading other blogs, just can’t stay awake reading them. This is fun tho. 🙂
All this proves is that ravens is a very shitty intelligence test compared to the asvab and the sat.
There is no evidence that bill Cosby is a super genius.
There Is also the confounding factor of motivation.
For example students perform worse on pass/fail tests than on tests that give a score.
People are more likely to try harder on tests like the asvab and sat than a random own test.
Since the sat and asvab doing well on these tests can lead to employment and getting better credentials.
While doing well on a ravens given by some psychologist might net you like 50 bucks.
In addition ravens is voluntary while and are taken by a tiny self selected population. While the sat and asvab are taken by large swathes of the population because of the opportunities given to high scorers.
Sure the scores are scaled against one another but it probably doesn’t remove the bias.
Based on this bill Cosby more likely has a own representing his 500 sat score and is not a super genius.
Which is also why u get a lot of dumbasses like Lagan and rosner doing well on own tests but utterly failing to do anything intelligent.
If you look up sample questions for the so called Mega and giga iq tests the questions mostly rely on kknowing obscure knowledge and what a surprise the guy who made the Mega test tested himself and got a 194!
While you do have the correlations supporting the validity of these retarded ravens and wais tests. I would imagine you would get similar correlation with sudoku or crossword puzzles. A smart person might have an advantage over a Dumb one but a dumb linguist will beat a imminent physicist. The imminent physicist. Would probably beat the janitor.
This doesn’t mean that you should assumme linear functions and estimate people’s own score depending on percentage of crossword puzzle completed.
How does it prove the raven is a shitty IQ test? Maybe the SAT is the shitty one.
And no one claimed Cosby is a super genius; only that he’s likely above IQ 125
the Cos has made his fortune with his verbal IQ.
the best Iq tests are collegen entrance exams for all the reasons “godlsyer” gives.
the high IQ societies are EXCLUSIVELY for people with LOW IQs, who are OBSESSED with IQ, yet understand NOTHING about it.
the Cos has made his fortune with his verbal IQ.
False.
the best Iq tests are collegen entrance exams for all the reasons “godlsyer” gives.
They’re nowhere near the best.
the high IQ societies are EXCLUSIVELY for people with LOW IQs, who are OBSESSED with IQ, yet understand NOTHING about it.
In other words you couldn’t get in.
i and godslayer and Lion say the truth and pp’s response is just to day NO.
what a dyke.
i must admit i’m completely ignorant of Cosby’s career as a structural engineer.
the raven’s the WAIS etc are standardized on a couple thousand.
the sat, act, lsat, gmat, gre etc. are standardized on millions.
And more people take many online polls than take scientific Gallup polls, but sample quantity is not sample quality
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